>worse than a rusty anchor it's not fucking fair bros

>anchor has 3 STABs
>owl says "fuck you" to contact
I dunno man, I think they do different things.

But Decidueye is better than the anchor? It has better bulk and Roost. Please don't try and tell me you were trying to use them offensively..?

>>30397246
Owl is better off using Overgrow. Always the sign of a trash starter.

>>30397221
Lies. Owlbro is the new king of OU.

>>30397221

Worked great for me in-game. Is it really bad competitively?

>>30397267
>Owl is better off using Overgrow
The literal fuck are you talking about? Why would you give up avoiding damage from Ferro or Garchomp when U-Turning to potentially get a stronger leaf blade when you're about to die?

>>30397362
Far from it.

It has multiple things over the anchor, some of which is reliable recovery, utility, etc.

you guys realize how many weaknesses grass has and he has no offensive presence whatsoever he's literally going to be RU at best but if I had to put money on it I'd say NU screencap this

>>30397473
You're retarded, because Decidueye is one of the competitively strongest starters ever.

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>>30397221
>Owl gets a signiture move that traps enemies
>So does anchor

>>30397510
This. Only greninja is slightly better.

>>30397552
And Blaziken. And the mega kanto starters. And vanilla Venasaur. And Swampert.

>>30397588
Nope

>>30397588
And meganium. And Typhlosion. And fucking piplup.

>>30397588
And contrary serperior, and probably chesnaught and empoleon.

>>30397726
You skipped over Infernape

>>30397640
Gonna explain or just hope we trust you, owlfag?

>>30397820
It's going to be something like a 3-turn setup he treats as happening at no cost, don't bother.

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>>30397656
And Serperior, and Primarina...and probably Incineroar when it will get its HA.

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>>30397221
Can we just take a moment to appreciate how incredibly stupid his bow is?

The arrow would clearly flop to the ground. There is no tension in the string or limb, and his wing would have to detach from his body anyway to mimic the mechanics of a bow.
>B-BUT MUH FICTION
This is only valid to a point. You wouldn't design a square wheel just because it's fiction. It's also not purely fiction, it's based on a real thing: a bow and arrow. And when it's so far removed from the thing it's based on, why bother forcing said thing in the first place? It just ends up tacked on and unnatural. The fact that it shoots "ghost arrows" just adds another forced element to this clusterfuck of a design.

Decidueye is a fucking mess.

>>30397510
It's a good pivot, but it's far from being the strongest starter.

>>30397221
What are the chances of getting the anchor on Seafolk Village?
Been going at it for 2 hours and the fucker just won't appear.

>>30397552
>>30397588
>>30397656
Prinplup, yes. But not Piplup, Meganium, or Typhlosion.
>>30397726
>>30397818

So just to be clear. Venasaur, Blaziken, Swampert, Prinplup, Empoleon, Infernape, Greninja, and Chestnaught are all better Pokemon than Decidueye, not counting Megas. Did we miss anyone?

>>30397362
As an attacker? It's not the best
It can do pretty damn good Utility/Support Wise though, which is nice

>>30397945
Contrary Serperior.

>>30397945
Serperior

>>30397510
Gen III had all its starters at OU most of its time. Blaziken went from most used to less used of the trio, Swampert never dropped of OU and Sceptile got stronger and stronger as Gen III developed.

It'll be hard to defeat that record, especially since there's double the pokemon now.

>>30397874
not to mention the idea that its FEATHERS would have any kind of prehensile grip. It's a retarded design and I think Noctowl is a better owlmon, but its ridiculousness is appealing in its own way. You have to at least admit that the spirit shackle animation looks neat.

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>>30397874
>This video game for children about fire-breathing lizards and smiling meteors and magical stones and alternate-dimension monsters isn't realistic!

>>30397945
Meganium is FOR something. Decidueye is a slow, frail mixed attacker and cannot do the dubiously-useful job it intends to at ALL.

>>30397874
Dude calm your autism down it's a fucking arrow. See how the string got shorter? Tension.

Suspend your disbelief for five fucking seconds and enjoy life

>>30397874
>>30398057

Neat design, though. I care more about than realism.

>>30398100
Well... I think Meganium is faster than Robinhoot, which is hilarious.

>>30397400
Why would you be using it in OU where those are? Are you trying to tank your rank?

>>30398064
>you're not allowed to criticize this thing because it's for children

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>>30397874
Most games and media couldnt give a fuck about archery realism.

Hell your lucky if the game even has the arrow have an arc. Usually they just fire in a straight line till they hit something or leave this plane of existence.

>>30397874
If I had the anti-greninja autist screencap I'd post it.

>>30397869
>Primarina and Decidueye get special snowflake abilities
>Inceneroar gets basic Intimidate
>Inceneroar has the best HA by far

>>30398147
You missed the other point he made

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At least it has good pre evos

>>30398236
The irony about that point is that meteors spawning from hammerspace makes more sense, in context and out, than this owl's fucking bow.

As always Deciduautists can't actually defend their design, they just deflect to "it doesn't matter that it's shit!"

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>>30397874
who cares? he's freaking cool!

>>30398064
Those things are actually more believable because they're far more uncommon in our lives, so we conclude they must work due to complicated mechanisms and leave it like that without giving it much thought, even better when an internal explanation is given

Things like that bow are much more close to our reality, so it's expected that they follow the basic rules, especially if they're presented as an ordinary bow, so it's weird when they don't, even more than smiling meteors and lusty bipedal lizards

>>30397362
RU support mon

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>>30398915
>Fires an Arrow that stitches its opponents soul to the floor
>Close to reality

>>30397510
>better than:
Swampert
Venusaur
Blaziken
Infernape
Greninja
>Primarina

I guess you'd be right by sheer numbers, though. It outclasses Gen 2 and Gen 5 entirely. It's about on par with Incineroar, with Owl being better in Singles and Cat better in VGC.

>>30397221
>Owl is meant for support
>Rusty Anchor is meant for bulky sweeping

GEE BOSS I THINK IT HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH THEM BEING DIFFERENT

>>30397400
What contact move would Decidueye be using against those? Sucker Punch would fail against a switch-in.

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>>30399641
No yon dumb fuccboy, what matters is explaining how the base bow works and how its mechanisms are possible, especially when it's presented as an ordinary bow. What it shoots is basically muh magic stuff so it's left open to imagination, but the bow isn't

>>30397221
Actually, so far for me Decidueye has been doing alot better due to its speed
But that's just me and it might be over 20 flukes
>>30397510
That is so fucking wrong beyond belief
Literally the following are stronger
>Venusaur
>Megazards
>Swampert
>Sceptile
>Blaziken
>Infernape
>Greninja
>Contrary Serperior
Now that's not to say Decidueye isn't stronger when compared to its other fellow starters as it can not only outspeed, but cripple them and even one shot primarina, but it's most certainly not one of the strongest starters at all

>>30399880
No, Rusty Anchor is a Spinblocking anti-Spinblocking Spinner.

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>>30400070
>Rusty Anchor is a Spinblocking anti-Spinblocking Spinner.

>>30399920
He literally said UTurn.

>>30397874
Most people think that bows work due to the elasticity of the bowstring. They never even notice that the bow bends.

>>30399842
> It outclasses Gen 2 and Gen 5 entirely
But that's wrong, Gatr and Snek are both better with Typhlosion and Emboar being around as useless as it.

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>>30400029
>Implying Magic Arrows need physics

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>>30400070
I can tell you we play the two differently in the sub 1800 category.

Dhelmise is built like a bruiser while Decidueye is a support. If you tell me one is better than the other, then you better follow up with the role their in. Decidueye is outclassed offensively but is much better at trapping/forcing switches/pivoting.

>Decidueye will never get Thousand Arrows by move tutor

>>30400110
It makes perfect sense.
Rapid Spin is a normal move, so it does nothing when the opponent is a ghost type.
Dhelmise is a ghost type that can rapid spin.

>>30400045
>Now that's not to say Decidueye isn't stronger when compared to its other fellow starters

Except that he is, Primarina is better in Singles and Incineroar is better in Doubles, nu-male cuckeye is the worst starter of this generation.

>>30397945
Feraligatr

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>>30400230
You don't understand. Let me try this again.

>Spinblocking anti-Spinblocking Spinner.

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>>30397510
>Decidueye is one of the competitively strongest starters ever
this fucking delusion

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>>30400184
If they didn't, they wouldn't need to be fired from a bow

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>>30400389
There's no reason not to, either

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>>30400320
You got a source on that? Incineroar is dog-shit in both areas. We've tried.

He is LITERALLY Emboar 2.0. Intimidate barely helps him out.

Primarina and Decidueye are better, they have warranted more discussion on the forums and have seen more results than Incineroar. Stop with the denial.

>>30397510
And this is fucking false.

>>30400184
>they needed to make the arrows "magic" for them to work
>making them magic means they don't need the bow anyway

Deciducucks lose again

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>>30400433
>Implying I'm a Deciducuck

>>30397221
What's with people saying Decideuye is bad? It's the best grass starter I've ever trained.

>>30400385
What's gengar laughing at? He just got cucked.

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>>30400496
t. Decidueye

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>>30400496
Starter wars.

Honestly if all of the starters were good this generation this wouldn't be happening. Instead we have Primarina which (most) people agree is just "meh" but not bad. Decidueye gets the most abuse for whatever reason despite him being decent in a different niche than anticipated. Incineroar is said to be top-tier but he's been dog-shit since release.

I miss Gen 1, 3, and 4 when everyone respected each other's starter choices.

>>30400496
Venusaur, Serperior, and Mega Sceptile are all much better than it. Possibly Chesnaught as well.
The only worse grass starters competitively are Meganium and Torterra.

I'm a huge ghost fan, but the achor being Ghost makes even less sense than decidueye. The Pokede entries literally say the actual organism is the seaweed, clung on to a bunch of seabed debri. It's not even possession. There's nothing spirit related about it. Should be grass/steel.

>>30400496
>not contrary serperior
>not venusaur under sun
>not mega venu
>not christmass tree
>but fucking owl
is this your first gen?

>>30397510
You are seriously fucking delusional. It doesn't have the healing capabilities of Venusaur, the speed of Sceptile, the strength of Torterra, the niche use of contrastorm of Serperior or even the bulk of Chesnaught. The only grass starter Decidueye outclasses is Meganium and that's just sad.

Literally everything Decidueye does the anchor does better. Decidueye will never be OU material and if I'm being quite frank here it'll be lucky to hit UU status even with its hidden ability available considering how niche it is.

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>>30400564
>I miss Gen 1, 3, and 4 when everyone respected each other's starter choices.

I was about to call you out on this but then I realized I never called someone else's taste shit from those generations and each of the starters (barring Torterra) was "good"

>>30397221
They both have two totally different niches. That being said, I don't see either of them going higher than UU. Decidueye may initially be OU by useage, but in reality it's just going to be UU in viability with an OU niche. Kinda like Hydreigon, Porygon2, or Galvantula. I don't see it falling to RU though, at least not during this gen.

>>30400618
Serperior is garbage, and literally all the things that you've mentioned except for mega Sceptile are worse.

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>>30400564
>I miss Gen 1 [...] everyone respected each other's starter choices.
Wanna know how I know you weren't born in time for Gen 1?

>>30400496
It must be the only grass starter you've ever trained then.

>>30400748
I was born in 1990 fuckboi.

>>30400737
Epic

>>30400772
You were not. No fucking way. Stop lying on the internet faggot.

>>30400768
I don't know what you guys are talking about. Whenever I would train a grass starter it would do nothing but faint half the time, Rowlet's evolutionary line is actually useful.

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>>30400737
>Serperior is garbage

Nice job buddy.

You're making every Decidueye player fucking look awful. Just stop posting before you ruin us more.

reminder the one of the top 10 ou player uses a decidueye
ou decidueye naysayers will ignore this fact

>>30400853
And one guy won VGC with pachirisu. It doesn't mean it's good.

>>30400429
Not trying to start anything, but Incineroar does have the unique advantage (or disadvantage depending on how you look at it) of being part dark rather than fighting, giving him complete immunity to any psychic type moves the opponent might try as well as the newfound immunity to prankster. Is it perfect? Hell no. But I think Incineroar deserves at least a little credit.

>>30400883
I was going to bring up Se Jun Park too.

>>30400894
This is why I said he's Emboar 2.0.

He's better than Emboar but it's not hard to be better than Emboar.

>>30400883
Decidueye OP was the top of the ladder for a week.

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>>30400853
>>30400932

Decidueye starter here

>>30400883 is right, if you're going to be fucking stupid and have cognitive dissonance of this then you're not saying anything, just making yourself look even worse on an anonymous imageboard.

Stop posting. Seriously just stop, you're making people like me look bad. Decidueye isn't bad but he isn't great. If you really like this pokemon, find and utilize his niche to its fullest extent and climb and then "prove' something. Or come here and spout shit like "Serperior is bad" and be the biggest retard.

I don't know why I'm giving you a (You). You probably don't even play competitive, just want to make yourself feel superior to people that chose other starters by referencing someone at the top of the ladder using this Pokemon. Suck my owl dick I'm done with you.

>>30400429
>Intimidate barely helps him out

Confirmed for not knowing what you're talking about. Intimidate isn't out yet, which means you can't use it even on Showdown, but nice try, Reddit shill.

>>30401013
This.

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>>30401013
You are the hero this board needs but does not deserve.

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>>30401013
THIS LEVEL OF BASED

Now I know for sure not all Decidueyes are bad.

>>30400853
And? He does have niche in OU, as do most other mons in UU/RU. Fucking EMBOAR has niche in OU.

>>30400853
you know you can use non OU mons in OU right? You just cant use Ubers and shit.

>started game with Rowlett
>got bored of my team and restarted with Litten
>want to use Rowlett again
>afraid I'll get bored of my team again and restart once more

what do I do owlbros?

>>30401013
One of the few intelligent owlbros on this board tbqh

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>>30401013
>This level of BTFOing another owlbro

You restored my faith in your kind.

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>>30401013
Fucking this; all these dick measuring contests about which starter is gonna be OU are the worst.

>>30401150
Drop your starter

Wait, the owl is shit? That's a shame. I hate the look of water otter and cat's pretty slow from what I'm told.

>>30401315
They're all slow. They're all shit honestly. Just box your starter.

>>30401315
read

>>30401013


then read:

http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/decidueye.3587254/

He's okay. He has a unique niche but he isn't shattering the meta. If thats good enough for you he's fine.

It really is a shame how awful Decidueye is. It's one of my top 5 Pokemon designs but I'll never use it.

>>30401357
Just play whatever tier he ends up being good in.

>>30401332
I may at some point, though I never have before. I know you can get through the main game with damn near anything, but grass/flying seems like a good way to get schlonged by everything under the sun early on.

>>30400320
No primarina is actually fucking fragile as all hell, i actually tried it out, it fucking sucks
Incineroar is bulky, but not by much
Decidueye isn't much to look at defensive wise either, but when you can take a fucking boosted thunderbolt from a xurkitree without any defense investments, you know it's nowhere near NU bad

>>30401304
I may just do this actually, thinking of replacing Litten with Marowak or something and as much as I like Decidueye's design it's movepool isn't my favorite

>>30401013

Holy shit. I was getting tired of seeing Decidueye fans get pissy over its dick not being sucked 24/7 but you just redeemed his fans in one fell swoop.

>>30401013
Yeah this pretty much right here

Oh shit, I didn't realize it becomes ghost type with its third evolution. Wew. So does if I evolve it twice, would it die?

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>>30401013
Sheer proof that not all Decidueye pickers are egotistical retards

>>30401545
Yeah. The second stage is emo and kills itself.

>>30397931
I've been breeding them like hell. I'll trade you one.

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>>30397221

>>30401013
This is the difference between an owlfag and an Owlbro.
Based owlbro.
>>30401403
Good luck with that.
It's moveset requires the help of the move reminder.
>>30401397
Primarina can take a special hits and has a great typing for that. Crumples at the first punch though.
The bests sets I've seen usually use the movepool and orb/specs to 1HKO 1-3 mons before dying from lack of recovery if the user doesn't fuck the prediction.
Its very much a glass cannon.

>>30401617
i tried that exact set it hit hard as shit, don't get me wrong, but it never knocked anything out what the fuck did i do wrong?

>>30401662
Match-ups maybe?
Lack of HP Fire?
There are a huge amount of variables.

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I'm glad I don't give a fuck about competitive

>>30401708
I honestly don't even know what the fuck i'm doing anymore, the fact that more than 90% of people i play against have nothing but tapus and ubs fucking everywhere just ruins my day
am i just out of the meta now?

>>30401397
too bad av dhelmise does that job better because it can spin, trap, and do massive damage

>>30400723
Even Torterra was pretty damn good ingame even if it was trash competitively

>learns Earthquake immediately upon involving
>bulk for days
>really good against most of the Gyms barring Best Girl Candice's

>>30401819
In the "simulated UU" all three do well but as you said, tha actual meta has only now banned Aegislash and is not stabilizing any time soon.

>>30398157
>tf2 arrows
>incredibly slow projectiles (compared to real arrows)
Why do people hate the Cuntsman?

>>30401397
Primarina is actually pretty tanky. It's entirely your fault if you try to force it to tank physical attacks. Its typing is also pretty good for a Sp. Def wall. Obviously it's nothing stellar but it's not as bad as you make it out to be.

Decidueye is able to tank Xurkitree because it also has some special bulk and because it resists the attack. Just like Primarina it crumbles under physical attacks, by the way.

>>30400853
And someone used an Arbok and got to the top 10 of Ubers before.

>>30400853
Post replays, then we'll talk fuccboi.

>>30397552
Blaziken steps on every single starter including Greninja after two turns of speed boost.

>>30403981
And most non starters.

>>30400564
Making fun of people who picked the ugly girly started started with Venusaur.

>>30399842
*Cough* Feraligatr *Cough*

>>30403997
If one of those turns is a swords dance you'd be lucky if you don't lose your whole team in one or two hits.

>>30404141
(R)uber chicken.

>>30403981
Sash Greninja with Water Shuriken would beat that

>>30404196
Sash Greninja is insanely rare though, and unless you use Ash-Jobber-Meme-Frog, Water Shuriken is unreliable.

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>>30404107
>feraligatr
Overrated piece of shit

>>30404285
It's still extremely useful with Sheer Force as it's ability and access to dragon dance and waterfall.
Just because you dislike based gatr doesn't change it being pretty fucking powerful.

>>30400853
>first month of competitive
>relevant
wait for the tiers to stabilise and all the cancer shit like genesect and pheromosa to leave and see where your reddit owl ends up owlcuck

>>30404360
And Reddit Owl goes down to RU.

>>30404405
Oh simmer down you too, it will do fairly well in UU.

>>30404405
Fucking 1800 here

He'll be UU at worst.

>>30404196
Your meme Sash-Shuriken sets make my meme double kick sets have reason to exist.

>>30404483
>>30404495
It was a joke.

>>30404526
I literally didn't get it.

>>30404544
It's a jab at all the people who said that Decidueye is completely terrible just because of it's stats.

>>30404496
Protean with Shuriken makes Greninja pure Water before the hit.
Survives Adamant LO Double Kick without any defensive investment.

>>30404566
Oh, I didn't get it either, but I've grown weary of the owlwars.

>>30404405
Decuideye and Primarina are going to be UU at the very worst. The former might not be anything special offensively, but it has a unique defensive niche and has access to Roost for recovery. The latter has an excellent defensive typing and enough SpA to crumble things, even if its bulk could be better.

If anything, Incineroar is the RU shitter right now, because without access to Intimidate, it's basically Pre-Gen VI Charizard. No priority worth mentioning, shit speed, and no Knock Off means you have far better choices for an offensive Fire or Dark type.

>>30404897
When Intimidate is released, it will rise to mid to high UU too.
but by that point I guess we'll already have tutors and they would have shifted.

>>30404953
I don't really see Incineroar being decent in UU even with Intimidate. That thing needs move tutors.

>>30404897
>>30404953

I bet they left tutors and the HAs out for Pokemon Stars or whatever too so people would be more inclined to buy it

Classic GF

>>30404999
1) Checked
2) The type combination+bulk(pseudo boosted by intimidate)+usable offencive stats have been discussed as being more than good enough for UU, but yeah.
It really needs tutors now, specially if GF is gonna pull another Unova starters on us.

>>30404999
6 resistances, 1 immunity with 95/90/90 defenses and Intimidate will do fine

>>30405087
>>30405108
It just seems generally inferior to Arcanine. It has a bit more bulk and U-turn, but no recovery and does worse against water types.

>>30404566
Most of that is just assmad Incineroarfags talking shit.

>>30405148
It is, generally. Especially in Smogon.

>>30401013
Incineroarfag here, I absolutely agree. I'm kinda sad Incineroar isn't the best starter but I know for a fact that I'll be abusing the shit out of it in the lower tiers. I'm not even mad Decidueye and Primarina are better, I'm just happy all of them are pretty ok. And I like the two other starters a lot too. It's just some Decidueyefags with superiority complex to trigger me

honestly all the starters in this gen are pretty meh overall. i picked rowlet because he was a cutie and not because i liked decidueye

wish lurantis was any good because if it were i probably would have boxed my starter around then

>>30404897
>Primarina being UU at worst when it's outclassed by every water pokemon in RU
Sure.

>>30398915
Why would they spend time making the bow shot more realistic? 99 percent of the people playing would give zero shits.

>>30408029
>Fairy

Post decidueye sets

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yes he might succ now but just wait till he gets his own Ash forme from the anime.

IKKOU ZE DECIDUDU

>>30398157
Stab stab stab

>>30404360
They could decide to use the current broken shit, but still pick Decidueye.

Really makes you think.

>>30404196
Sup verlis

>>30401013
This place is filled with autism

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>>30397251
Well this is how you know a mon is shit. When you're forced to run a defensive set despite mediocre defensive stats cause its offense is also mediocre.

Worst starter since Meganium confirmed

>>30397362
Spirit Shackle+Baton Pass is a godly combo.

>>30397552
This is nonsense.

Gatr, Infernape, Venusaur, all the Kanto megas, Swampert, Blaziken, Chesnaught, Empoleon and Serperior?

Sceptile has a good chance to be better in UU than this because of it's mega.

Shit Primarina is seeing more usage from good players trying out UU beta on Showdown, wouldn't be surprised if that ranks higher than it too.

>>30397874
Ironically, I could see a square wheeled Pokemon in a future gen.

>>30400853
People have gotten to the top of the ladder with Slaking and Shedinja, two PU mons.

>People who think these starters will be UU
As a person who has ranked in the top 20 of the ladder I genuinely doubt it, they get outclassed by other pokemon in the tier in every way.
Primarina might see more usage than the other two as Hydreigon's first counter but its cons outweight the pros.

>>30412567
Its bulk is good, though. 78/75/100 with that typing is nothing to scoff at.

>>30407194
Hello fellow Incineroarfag. Trust me, more people will be liking Incineroar once his HA gets released. Everybody likes intimidate.

>>30400748
If you picked anything but charizard you were a faggot

>>30412696
Why?
Because if you think you can pass the trapping, you can't.

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>Its speed is astonishing

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>>30397221
>Dartrix & Decidueye have the same HP & Defense

...But why though

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>>30413952
>Pass the trapping

>>30414569
>Decidueye is actually just Dartix with a fake head and a hoody

>>30413975
Compared to most things in Alola, it IS astonishing.

>>30413295
>Primarina getting the most assfucked of being outclassed by UU Pokémon by having about 12 Pokemon that can do the same shit as it
>Highest chance of being UU
>Incineroar and Decidueye having about 2-3 Pokémon in UU+RU while still having large niches that give you reason to use them instead
>On top of this, Decidueye is pretty much a check to all the Water types besides Crawduant and Sharpedo+Has a trapping move
>Less likely to be UU
Yeah you're not in the top 20 in ladder. Not even 1100+ on the Random Battles ladder.

>>30400737
> there's no niche for Nasty Plot + 130 BP STAB
Okay I'll take your word for it.

>>30400894
Darkest Lariat also ignores stat changes so there's that. It can take a decent hit too.
In all honesty ranking the starters it would probably go
Primarina > Incineroar > Decidueye

>>30415117
>I was just pretending

>>30397221
>tfw hyped for Deck
>turns out to be utter shit with a typing that leaves it more frail than a tumblrite's state of mind

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>>30415574
Hi here's a screencap of the ladder a few months ago back when I played UU a few months ago, I decayed since then but it should still count.
>Oh it's photoshopped or you lucked your way into it
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/uu-405629588
Here's a replay of me beating the current 1# rank who has held that spot in the ladder for who knows how long.
Here's a replay of me 6-0ing him using my Halloween name and a slightly different team.
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/uu-452259308

There's literally 0 reason to use Incineroar when Arcanine exists and 0 reason to use Redditowl when every single grass type in the tier is better than it. Primarina has the advantage of being the only counter to this S-Tier ex-suspected Pokemon, don't get me wrong it will not get much use either but it has that one niche that will screw most people relying on Hydreigon to punch holes into teams.

>muh owl trapping
Unbelievably shitty gimmick that at most will force people to run different leads will likely only affect the low ladder.

Kill yourself and never post again.

>>30415736
>>30415117
>>30413952
>>30412696

Can you pass the trapping or not?

>>30417062
no

>>30416817
>This level of BTFO

>>30398157
Does that mean overwatch is good

>>30416817
>0 reason to use Redditowl when every single grass type in the tier is better than it
Are you retarded? Decidueye is a powerful grass/ghost with amazing bulk, great utility, easy recovery and a great trapping move in the form of Spirit Shackle. It's easily one of the strongest grass type pokemon yet. If it somehow ended up as UU, Decidueye would dominate the tier with Swords Dance and Nasty Plot plus Baton Pass because Spirit Shackle can easily trap something that cannot harm Decidueye at all.

I am pretty sure you're just someone who spammed OP mons to get to the top of the ladder, and that's that. Oh well, you're about to get BTFO soon enough anyway once it's made clear that Primarina is NU at best and Decidueye is upper UU at worst.

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>>30417095
Thanks

>>30417230
I want you to read

>>30401013


And seriously just shut the fuck up. Just shut the fuck up you sub 1100 idiot. You didnt pick Decidueye, you meme'd on him. You have officially been disowned by the Decidueye users, suck my owl dick.

>Redditowl
>Tumblrseal
Is Incineroar the only right choice?

>>30400385
>>30400507
THE LEAKS ARE FAKE

immunity cat plz.

>>30417359
No, Catastrophe.

>>30417359
No

>>30401013
Yeah I mean I've been a fucking ledianfag since I was 8 years old and I still know his place.

What's so hard about accepting the fact that your bros will never be competitively viable unless game freak decides to do some massive overhaul which they will never do. You just gotta do what you can

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>>30417230

Wanna know who is also in UU and can do all that shit except for trapping? Celebi.
Celebi can NP/SD and BP, has amazing utility, recovery and is infinitely better than Redditowl. Better bulk than it, better utility with Thunder Wave and Stealth Rock and similar weaknesses.
> Spirit Shackle can easily trap something that cannot harm Decidueye at all.
It can, but it won't, nobody is gonna fall for that shit past 1300 elo.

>I am pretty sure you're just someone who spammed OP mons to get to the top of the ladder, and that's that.
I am using two RU mons in those replays (Diancie and Rotom Mow) and Vaporeon, the only D-ranked Pokemon in viability rankings, a Pokemon considered to be so shitty by the UU community that I actually got warned by a mod for defending it in the UU room.

All three starters will likely be RU. Prim and Owl have a shot at appearing in some UU teams but I doubt they will be UU by usage.

>>30402220
I love the huntsman in tf2. Its my go to "for fun/dickin around" sniper weapon.

And I can be Decidueye with the owl head.

>>30397221
its a starter
they are supposed to be worse than end-game mons

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>>30417442
This stigma that UU = Unviable needs to end.

I've been using Empoleon in my OU games for 9 years. Back when he was meta and even out of meta. I capped at 1806 and then the ranks got reset.

I haven't gone and tried this season yet (Haven't had the time) but the fact that I still stuck with my favorite Pokemon regardless of viability and climbed the ladder says more to me than most People who play competitive. I can assure anyone who likes Decidueye, fucking use it if you want to climb, however you better be damn sure you know how to push his niche to it's maximum and have it support all holes in the team.

>>30417556
>Blastoise
>Charizard
>Blazeikin
>Sceptile
>Infernape
>Empoleon
>Greninja

All of these have been top tier at on point or another. Shit argument

>>30417636
Oh I wasn't really referring to Smogon or custom rule sets in general. Those are easier to control since there are bans and regulations. I'm referring to the game and franchise as a whole.

Yeah I understand about capitalizing on niches but there's a point where realism sets in and you've pushed the hardest you can push. Some mons are just worse than others, and until Game Freak decides to take balance into its own hands they likely won't ever see the light of day.

>>30417359
Tumblr loves the Tumblrtiger too though

>>30417230
>I am pretty sure you're just someone who spammed OP mons to get to the top of the ladder, and that's that.
Does that mean anything when everyone else is likely to be spamming the same mons?

>>30397362
The meta is still too unstable to know. Will probably be UU, but may have a support niche on OU

>>30400367
Yep, it spins, it block spins, and it threatens spinblockers. Say what you want, but this gen has a lot of pokemon with weird new niches

>>30417442
This is actually whi I like Smogon.
People shit on them too much here. You can use your favourites, but just in their own tier.

I just see shit like PU and such as Boxing weight classes. Some of my best matches were NU matches. Manectric was always a bro there. I lucked out with the mega it got.

>>30422013
Some bans and decisions are questionable and are often times knee-jerk but they do a better job a maintaining a meta than GameFreak ever will.

considering the anchor is pretty damn good that's not a bad thing

what perplexes me is 100 sp. attack on decidueye

should have moved 30 of that to HP

>>30401038
You know he could've used the Pokemon Showdown calculator.

>>30399842
Serperior is OU.

>>30417230
Ok, can you stop saying it has massive bulk? 78/75/100 isn't massive by any stretch. Combine this with the fact its slow, has 5 weaknesses to extremely common types and lacks any form of recovery outside of synthesis as well as not having access to moves or abilities that help its defenses Decidueye is worthless.

At least Incineroar has access to will-o-wisp, bulk up and eventually intimidate to help its fragility and Primarina has scald and the screens to help with its crap physical defense. Decidueye literally has NOTHING.

owlfags cant be fixed

>>30397362
>in-game
I don't know how the other starters perform in the main game, but Decidueye suffers from the same problem Torterra did, there's and entire segment where it's basically useless. For Toterra it's
>2 snow routes, Ice gym, Final trek through Mt Coronet
For Decidueye it's
>Acrrola's trial, Po Town, Nanu, Aether Paradise

>>30423182
That's completely wrong. Decidueye OHKOs Totem Mimikyu with its Z move.

>>30424940
Not that guy, but I've heard Dartrix has a damnable period of being fucking useless.

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Does Long Reach give a boost or something to contact moves?

If not, what's the point of using it?

>>30425273
Its temathically appropiate and it can help you hit all the pokémon that will anihilate you next turn with no drawbacks.
And ferrothorn and togedemaru and Rocky Helmet too.
But seriously, if your opponent has poison touch, flame body or the like you are better Batton Passing/switching out and praying they don't kill you with pursuit.

>>30414569
It died.

>>30424940
Poor phrasing, my bad. You're more likely to have Dartrix at the point.

>>30404897
Just because Decidueye has a nice it does not mean it will be UU. Fucking Emboar has a niche in OU but it doesn't make it good.

>>30397221
anon you are a trainer, make Decidueye worthy in your team, not be a weannie faggot