Starter thread

Primarina is genuinely the only starter I've ever been disappointed in.

It's not even just because it's girly because I like other "girly" pokemon like Aromatisse I just don't think Primarina is a good design. I even like Brionne.

>>30378905
>First post
>Already hating
Wew

>>30378853
I don't remember there being a huge popularity gap. I remember people at this time in XY's life pretty evenly choose Froakie, Chespin, and Fennekin.

I like Decidueye way more than the other two, and I have a bit of a hate bias towards Incineroar because I was going to pick Litten at first and I never expected it to evolve into that. But looking at them all from a neutral perspective they're all pretty good.

>>30378983
You didn't expect a fire starter to become bipedal?

>>30378853
>there's no huge popularity gap like with Greninja
But Decidueye is the single most popular starter ever, while Primarina is widely controversial and Incineroar is the most hated starter ever.

>>30379009
Stop being a faggot god fucking damn it

>>30379009
>Source: my ass

Aside from that, I refuse to believe anyone genuinely likes Emboar without being a contrarian or a new player.

>>30378905
I'm only really disappointed in Primarina because they dropped the clown theme Popplio had. The design itself is solid.

>>30378930
At least he is not screaming "muh tranny seal" like every other retard. People can have different opinions withouth being unreasonable.


But yes, i do love all starters this gen. They all bring something different to the table. Hopefully none of them is shilled to infinity like Greninja.

>>30379009
Rowlett is the most popular starter, not Decidueye.
What's more, Japan even likes more Incineroar than Decidueye,even if they like Rowlett more than Litten

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>>30379041
Booooooooooo

>>30379054
this. I was already set on Litten but I was excited to see where they would take the circus theme of Popplio

>>30379108
Remember when people stretched to say the starters had a circus theme literally only because of Popplio being a clown?

>>30379009
Japan does not care about Decidueye at all.

>>30379127
Until the evos were revealed, I don't think circus tiger was a stretch for litten. The only stretch was making rowlet's bowtie into a whole ringmaster theme.

>>30379161
Rowlet was a stretch but I definitely thought they were going for a shared circus theme when Dartrix turned out to be a knifethrower.

>>30378905
I geniuinely don't know what's wrong with its design. Then again I'm an Incineroarfag so I didn't have any expectations for Popplio. Maybe people really wanted a performer or something

>>30378930
It's okay to have a discussion as long as it doesn't come down to shitposting like "furbait" or "redditowl"

>>30379009
Fuck off with your falseflagging

>>30379041
I kinda like Emboar. I feel like people give it so much shit just because it evolves from Tepig. Yeah it ruined it a bit, but looking at a design alone I think it's okay

>>30379299
My main problem with Primarina is probably the eyes. They just look weird and whoever thought white eyelashes on a white body wouldn't clash... Just why. Animals with hair because girl is one of my biggest pet peeves in character design and the pink spikes on its torso I just find unnecessary.

Also I actually like Pignite and Emboar more than Tepig, something about Tepig's ears and tail bug me.

all staters suck this gen i ditched them for sandshrew

>>30379041
Actually, Emboar is my favorite starter. I don't know, I just find him both cool and adorable.

Then again, I'm an Incineroar fan.

Water one is one of the worst ever.

Based Decidueye is the only choice. It's also the best starter made yet in terms of design and competitive viability. This is objective.
If you picked Tony the shitty barafag lucha garbage Fire/Fighting ripoff cheeselord shit design trash piece of ass emboar clone or Tumblrina you should kill yourself right fucking now. Only owlbros are welcome here, get off my board shitty barafags and waifufags.

>>30379672
Kill yourself Litten is the best it's way better than that shitty trannyseal and FUCKING ROWLET IS THE WORST STARTER EVER IT LOOKS LIKE A GEEK AND IT HAS A SHITTY "EDGY" TYPING FOR FUCKING WHINY MANCHILDREN WHO WANT TO LOOK COOL. DARK IS THE ACTUAL COOL TYPE BUT THEY HATE THE ONLY GOOD STARTER BECAUSE "MUH BIPEDAL FIRE TYPE" FUCK YOU GO DIE. ROWLET IS SUCH A SHIT DESIGN, DARTRIX IS LITERALLY A FUCKING EMO TEEN AND DECIDUEYE IS LITERALLY JUST A FURRY IN A FUCKING HOODIE BUT THEY ACT LIKE INCINEROAR IS THE ONLY FURBAIT, EVEN THOUGH SHITMARINA HAS ALL THE PORN ANYWAYS. I HATE FUCKING OWLFAGS SO FUCKING MUCH THEY'RE ALL RETARDED PIECES OF SHIT BIRDS AREN'T EVEN COOL, FLYING IS ONE OF THE WORST TYPES BECAUSE BIRDS FUCKING SUCK. OWLFAGS DON'T EVEN DESERVE TO HAVE A GHOST TYPE STARTER WHICH BARELY EVEN COUNTS AS A GHOST.

FUCK. OWLFAGS.

I got my friends to breed me copies of their starters. Running all three is so comfy

>>30379672
>>30379696
Nice pastas. Knock it off faggots

>>30379089
Source or ass

>>30379696
original pasta?

>>30379054

Fod God's sake, Popplio was never a clown.

>>30379752
I don't know how you can genuinely believe this.

It has a clown nose and a neck frill, Clowns are performers, Popplio keeps the performer theme as it evolves, going from a clown to a pop star, the neck frill becoming a dress.

I know it can be annoying when people complain that it didn't stay a clown but denying that it was ever a clown in the first place is not an argument.

>>30379719
I'm on the second island and I just got the other two by GTS. I'm debating if I should use them or not

Is this thread a joke or what?

Incineroar looks so god damn awful. There was no need for Litten to turn into something gay and bipedal like that.

Rowlett's line from the start was great (maybe minus Dartrix looking like a shitty anime butler) and Popplio's line redeemed itself fast with it's 2nd and 3rd evolution.

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>>30379819
heck you

>>30379835
No seriously, besides bara fetish, how can you like it?

It looks like something straight out of a shitty furry anime.

>>30379819
Incineroar is pretty aesthetically appealing desu

game freak doesn't always make sense but they do know how to crank out good looking, popular designs

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>>30379857
I love me some good ol' wrasslin'

>>30378936
lol you lived in a bubble

>>30379863
How is it aesthetically appealing?

It's overly humanoid to the point in which it literally did a 180 from the starter's design. Neither of the other starters did that. In fact, this is the first time I recall a starter having such a radical design change upon evolution.

The color scheme is god awful. It was redeemable in its first two evolutions but out of nowhere it changes eye color? What was the point of that?

It's literally the first starter that I didn't even consider.

>>30379865
So it is indeed a gay/bara fetish thing then, right?

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Probably the three worst pokemon designs in history. They look like humans with clothes. Nothing animalistic or savege left. Also way too much detail. They make my eyes hurt. And the stage one versions looked so good too.

I boxed mine asap and used an alolan Raticate as my early partner. Shit was cash.

>>30379966
at first I wasn't too keen on the alolan form but then I saw the normal one again in game and realized the cheeks improved the designing

>>30380000

Totally. Great fucking design. Usable too.

>>30379958
> This is the first time I recall a starter having such a radical design change upon evolution.
What is Samurott
What is Blaziken
>inb4 Blaziken still looks like a Chicken
No

>>30379089
>Japan loves walking Fire-type Tiger Mask tribute

Gee, I wonder why.

>>30379958
>literally did a 180 from the starter's design. Neither of the other starters did that. In fact, this is the first time I recall a starter having such a radical design change upon evolution.
Litten pretty much just stands up and gets a belt.
Popplio turns white, grows hair, gets super creepy eyes and has pink spikes grow out of its body
Rowlet grows a hoodie, changes eyes, gets goggles, and grows super long legs and wings with spots.

Litten pretty much changes the least of the 3. He gets grey in his color scheme but he's pretty much just a bigger striped cat.

>>30379857
I never got the whole furry argument. Do you guys really think of furries when you see a humanoid design? If so, why does it matter to you. Furfags are fapping to Glaceon and Charizard too. It doesn't make them bad in any way.
As for why I like it, it's just fucking cool. The theme of going from emotionless cat in an 'emo' stage to an energetic, outgoing adult gives it an unique chatacter and really makes you bonded to it. Its personality is also really fun. From cat like behaviors to cliche wrestling tropes and cute moments it's brimming with personality. Also it just sits right with me aesthetically
Honestly when you get over the whole 'muh quadruped' thing it just keeps getting better and better. I don't see a reason why you wouldn't like it except if you have unreasonable some bias like 'muh furry' and 'muh another brawler'

>>30379672
If you're going to falseflag at least make it slightly credible

>>30379041
Well i am, not my favorite starter of all time, but vastly better than the other 2 gen V starters

>>30379735
He gets more attention than the other two on Pixiv and Twitter.
Granted, it's not a huge gap like with Greninja, but they still like him a little bit more than Decidueye and Primarina. But they're pretty much equal this gen.

And actually, I like the 3 of them, so, great for me.

>>30378853
They are all cool.
Not a fan of elegant/really feminine Pokemon, but Primarina is still a solid design.

My only complain is the stats distribution for Decidueye and Incineroar is missing its HA.

>>30380033
Torchic -> Combusken -> Blaziken was a smooth transition
Same thing with the Samurott line
Litten -> Terrawhatever was just two cats and then suddenly it started standing and wrestling

>>30380041
Popplio/Rowlet, similar to the ones I explained above, transition slowly. Popplio does it better than Rowlet, but they both have a sane transition.

>>30380070
>energetic, outgoing adult
It looks like a fucking autistic wrestler from high school.

The point is the design took a 180 instead of maybe showing the transition in the 2nd stage which is the POINT of a 2nd stage evolution.

I might've at least slightly accepted it if Terrawhatever started doing something vaguely wrestling like.

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>here's no huge popularity gap like with Greninja.
almost half of the US players picked the owl
JP account didn't have a poll like this from what I'm seeing but Nips absolutely loved that episode of anime where Ash gets Rowlet so I wouldn't be surprised if the result was about the same there. Even if you compare the stupid animations they made for each starter, Rowlet crushes the other two despte the fact that it got the most boring one while Popplio's was actually fun

>>30380240
If you actually paid attention to the details you would notice how smooth the transition of the litten line is.

Most people don't notice how smooth the transition of the Oshawott line is and if you can do that I don't see why you can't see it with Litten.

>>30378853
Honestly I like both Incineroar and Primarina. Yes, I know, an artificial ratio that has an 87.5% chance of not being canon makes you uncomfortable but suck it up. Decidueye is ok but it just doesn't do it for me as much. Also the Rowlet love has crossed over into becoming obnoxious.

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>>30379009
THIS

AND F*CK THAT DAMN ANCHOR TOO EVERYONE HATES IT!!!

>>30380325
...you do realize that it's the catfags and sealfags who're being retardedly obnoxious and not the owlfags, right?

>>30380282
I mean I haven't used the fucker so I don't know what the animations look like. But to me it looks like it was supposed to get more feral and catlike and then DIDN'T.

>>30380325
Well at least Game Freak isn't going to be shoving it down your throat like they did with Greninja. It'll be Incineroar getting that treatment.

>>30380340
People love Dhelmise what are you smoking.

>>30380252
Rowlett is not Decidueye.
Japan loves Piplup, but I think they like more Infernape of the three final stages.

I've not been keeping up with the anime but, has the Litten episode aired yet? Maybe that would change their opinion about the first stages (not likely, but still possible)

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>>30380345
Stop shitposting mon frere

Most of the talk about Primarina and Incineroar is hating on them and All the talk about Decidueye is just shitposters trying to get people to hate Decidueye by acting like dickheads about it. Like you.

>>30380240
But Torracat is a great transition. The only thing they didn't do is to make it bipedal. Also stop spewing random buzzwords
>fucking autistic wrestler from high school
What does that even mean

>>30380384
To be fair, Greninja didn't really start being pushed until it became apparent how popular it was. It wouldn't be surprising if they did the same with Rowlet once they take note of how popular it is. In fact that may be a good argument for why Ash's may not evolve. They can push both Incineroar via evolving, Rowlet via not evolving and pretend Popplio never existed by giving it to someone who doesn't show up much.

>>30380252
There had to have been some Harry Potter overlay for the Rowlet choices given the recent repopularity. Not that I'm complaining since owls are cool.

>>30380456
It looks like a man who killed Torracat and jumped inside of its skin.

Again, I haven't seen the animations, but the fact that I don't see it often TRYING to stand on its back two legs means it was a SHIT design choice. It doesn't look like it WANTS to stand or is GOING to stand. It looks like it's a feral cat ready to pounce in almost every official artwork I see. It would've made MORE sense for it to stay low to the ground like the artwork suggests.

You haven't even given ANY good arguments as to why it's a good transition. The only thing that's consistent is the color scheme.

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>>30380510
>The only thing that's consistent is the color scheme

>>30380458
I don't think any starter's gonna get a big push.
They get to keep their exclusive useless z-moves while tpci continues to play up charizard and greninja. I wouldn't be surprised if either of the two got even more new forms in the near future

>>30378853
Yeah.. no. Decidueye is a decent design, but it's concept is much better than it's actual delivery. The other two are horrendous and make up the worst or at best second worst set of starters we've ever had. It's laughable to even try and put them above gens 1, 2, 3, or 4. Nice try, though.

I love all starters this gen, I just wish Decidueye wasn't such a jack of all trades.

>>30379041
I've grown to like Emboar just based on him being so much better than Serperior and Samurott as far as design.

>>30378930
>different opinions is just hate
Why is /vp/ so bad

>>30378853
They aren't bad, but they are probably the second worst set above Gen 5. With 4 on top.

>>30380576
Yeah and you don't seem biased at all.

>>30380568
>Ash-Charizard
>Mega Greninja X
>Mega Greninja Y

>>30380510
Torracat's physical attack animation has it stand up a bit on its back legs to get some height before slashing

>>30380553
>non-canon image
??????

Since this thread is talking about the starters, which starter do you guys think has the best Z-Move? Both in practicality and in style/looks.

>>30380630
I didn't think I put in any bias, what do I seem biased toward or against? Please enlighten me because I do not see it.

>>30380648
just checked the pokedex and even the special animation has it stand up for a bit

>>30380510
What the hell are you talking about? you comparisons are way to confusing to make any sense out of. Even the pose suggests that its legs are really strong and pokedex even confirms it. One of its animations is standing up for a short while. And I still can't see why it looks like a man to you. It's a fucking pokemon and unless you have some mental illness where everything is furry to you it's just a pokemon

>>30380655
Dude Torracat is orange there's no denying it

>>30380666
Incineroar has the coolest to me at least. Decidueye's is pretty cool but I feel like Primarina's drags on for too long.

>>30380674
>poor Rowlet has people who only hate it for being popular because it has the best first form!
>but Popplio gets loved because they think they are special even though it has huge issues!
>and Incineroar gets the bara furfag audience!

>>30379129
Japan has good tastes.

>>30380750
I see. It was not meant to be bias, Rowlet's was to denote that most people only flocked to it due to the first form and no one cared about the others. Popplio is simply the reason I see given on many sites outside of /vp/, especially during the reveal. Incineroar, well there's no denying it, it does. Such a thing is not necessarily bad, as I chose incineroar.

>>30379966
>They look like humans with clothes

Stopped reading there. So tired of this meme. And this really only applies to Incineroar.

I'd have to say it's too early to tell the real consensus on them. Marketing has barely started, people have just gotten their games, and it's still settling down. In about 3-6 months a more stable consensus on them will emerge. Right now, there is still heavy lingering bias for and against each, a part of the cycle.
>Grass
has the benefit of a cute first form, but still has anti-popularity bias against it and it suffered immensely from being the first to have stats revealed. In addition, the first and second forms are not enough to carry the line for the initial fans of Rowlet itself.
>Water
has the bonus of people who chose it due to it's initial snubbing because they think it's unique to do so, but still suffers from the issues commonly brought up for it
>Fire
has the immense benefit of being a fire starter (which people often choose regardless of the design) and a bara furbait for furfags, but it still has the bipedal memes and people who were desperately hoping for it to follow in the Torracat line of design.

Changed it to be clearer just for (You)>>30380750

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>>30380801
>most people only flocked to it due to the first form and no one cared about the others.
I've never heard someone who backed Rowlet say they dislike Decidueye. Can't really say the same for the other two.

Also as an aside I can't wait to see what people come up with for Gen 7 megas, especially of the starters. This is the only one I found so far and it's exactly what I had in mind.

>>30378853
>All of the starters are great and there's no huge popularity gap like with Greninja.
This is true...for now. The anime is going to fuck that up with all the Decidueye pandering that's going to eventually happen.

>>30378853

>Competitively they are all pretty good without any overpowering ability.
Umm...no not really. They're all pretty much UU-NU. The only reason they seem decent is because we're playing pre-bank. Once January rolls around, it'll be a different story.

>Alola has the best starters
That's really personal opinion, but I don't think they have the best. Best starters to me are the Gen 6 starters, followed by the Gen 3 starters. Gen 7's starters are a close 3rd though.

>>30380860
From browsing several Pokemon fansites and forums for samples, I have seen a great deal of people giving their Rowlets Everstones/the b-button treatment. Even moreso than the Gen 5 Dewott fans. There are a few doing so for Torracat but almost none compared to Rowlet.

Also nice vestcape

>>30380801
>>30380838
Still some pretty big bias. As far as I've seen, Primarina is much better received outside of /vp/, even though it still gets hate for being too feminine for it's gender ratio. As for Incineroar, it really hasn't been true about being chosen just for being fire since gen 5.

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>>30380918
What mirror dimension is this

>>30380878
>Actually, it is heavily implied Ashe will have Incineroar and Rowlet won't evolve...or at least it won't pass the Dartrix form

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>>30379966
>thinks these Pokemon are bad just because they're more than literally just an animal and takes inspiration from other things as well

You sound like a genwunner.

>>30378853
>no huge popularity gap like with Greninja
>What is Decidueye

>>30380920
I didn't want to elaborate on Primarina in the post, but the issues I see are a great deal of falseflagging about the ratio issue you mentioned, a terrible signature move, and the standard aslowla memes that a lot of this gen's pokemon get. And this may surprise you, but there are a shitload of people who choose fire every time, much, much more than those who choose the others. This is probably due to either liking fire as a personal type and sticking with it, or simply because they chose Charizard in gen 1. It sounds silly, but it has happened, especially during gen 6 with Delphox.
>>30380973
Check a few fan forums.

>>30380980
Every fucking Pokemon takes inspiration from multiple things. Slapping more shit on a design doesn't make it good.

>>30380973
Probably reddit. I've seen some pretty nasty screencaps of them whining about how they want to not evolve Rowlet and Torracat.

>>30380973
Gamefaqs maybe.

>>30381039
>Implying Bland design like the Gen 2 starters are actually better

>>30380920
Also, I do acknowledge that Primarina does get a lot of fans, especially with fanart on tumblr and twitter.

>>30381122
It is fucking better. Sure they're plain, but at least they're clean and aesthetic, which is better than these garish clusterfucks.

>>30380920
As for Incineroar, it really hasn't been true about being chosen just for being fire since gen 4.
FTFY

There are so many people on deviantart butthurt about Incineroar and redesigning it to be a quadruped it's kinda sad. I'm compiling them for your amusement /vp/, stay tuned.

>>30381184
>imblyin

>>30378853
>All of the starters are great
>incineroar
>great

>there's no huge popularity gap like with Greninja
Popplio scores a lot lower in every single relevant popularity poll

>Competitively they are all pretty good without any overpowering ability.
they're all garbage, especially emboar

>Alola has the best starters so far
they are terrible what is wrong with you, fuck outta here with your shit taste

>>30381180
>It is fucking better. Sure they're plain, but at least they're clean and aesthetic
Stopped there.
I can see the appeal with Feraligatr
Saying Typhlosion and Meganium are "aesthetic" is just a bad case of nostalgiautism.

Thank god you are not in charge of Pokemons designs.

>>30381122
I'd sure take a Litten evo that was bland and aestheticallly pleasing over the "epic" references that made Incineroar

>>30381194
Getting ready boy, you better deliver.

>>30381194
I remember people used to do this for Sceptile too. Funny how we've gone from bitching about MUH PATTERNS being broken to MUH PATTERNS not being broken enough.

Im playing sun and moon simultaneously and I picked riwlet and litten. I just can do popplio....and this is coming from someone that has always picked the water starter. All of the starters up to this point were a bit ambiguous with regards to their gender but derpy mermaid is distinctively female. Hell even with delphox you can use your imagination a bit.

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I've recently realized that all of the starters so far have been closely based on animals. But what if there was an objectmon starter, or just something that didn't heavily resemble an animal?

>>30381197
Found the Infernape fan

>>30381326
>imblyin twize in a row
Infernape was pretty popular but fuck I hate monkeys.

>>30381263
They are aesthetic you tasteless faggot. I'm sorry you can't appreciate something if it's not covered in garbage.

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>>30381297
9 deviations out of 1,232 that come up when searching incineroar (minus the amount that come up despite being unrelated) may not seem like much but all of these have comment sections filled with people agreeing so...

Also there is a lot of bara furry stuff on DA of incineroar but surprisingly I saw way more female furry art than male. Huh.

>>30381367

Did i hurt your feeling by insulting your favorite mon ?
Stop being a pussy and grow a dick

>>30381399
Oh god the memories
the horrible DA memories are all coming back
thank you anon

>>30381280
I won't, i think Litten is the worst form of the line.
Torracat is cool tho.

>>30381399
Top left is what I was really hoping for with Litten's evolution. I guess the image in my head was so different from what happened it threw me off.

Incineroar isn't a bad design, but it's not what I hoped for. Really, I just disappointed myself.

>>30381423
All you're insulting is good taste by praising these abysmal new starters.

>>30381399
>Only shinx and Raikou color swap
>No cheetah
This community is worse than Gamefreak

>>30381399
They are right though. Litten evolving into fighter-like humanoid was a mistake. Double mistake because holy fuck those proportions

>>30381522
The best part is they all act like they know better than Gamefreak

>>30381506
>Implying
You have good taste if you think Gen 4 and Gen 1 starters are the best.
Gen 2 starters aren't even close.

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>>30381523
I never understood this complaint. Tigers have big hands.

I'm more insulted by the fuckugly stripes. They should have looked more like Electabuzz.

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>>30378853
>Alola has the best starters so far so let's celebrate them by posting them all together.
No it hasn't. It's the same damn pattern that they use since gen5.

>The buff I beat your shit up one
Emboar, Chesnaught, Incineroar
>The feminine looking one
Serperior, gayfox, Primarina
>The "cool" one with a wicked concept
Samurott (a fucking samurai but absolutely failed in being cool due to horrible design), Greninja the fucking ninja, Decidueye the sniper robin hood owl

The cool ones are/were clearly meant to be the most popular starters those gens, that's why Ash ended up with all of them too, to make the pandering complete. So yes all in all don't get me wrong, gen7 is great and its starters are too but its not like its a damn fact that they are the best. In my opinion they still ain't got shit on gen1 and especially gen3.

>>30381561
Where the fuck did I say they were the best? I said they're better than gen 7.

Apologists can't even argue without strawmen.

>>30381506
>Good Taste
>Opinion
You're irritating, and I'm not even a part of this thread.

>>30381563
This. Everyone complains about the hands but I don't see an issue.

But the fucking traffic-cone stripes on it look off-putting

>>30381561
>Gen 1 starters
>Good
It's Gen 4 and Gen 6 man

>>30381563
Tiger have big paws, that looks like hands and are proportional. Incineroar has 5 german sausages taped to the wrist of a 6-year boy

Thanks for reminind me about the stripes. I hate Incineroar even more now

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>>30381624
>Gen 6

>>30381592
I know and that's why i said that.

Your opinion "Gen 2 > Gen 7 is only a matter of taste.
The only way you can objectively have good taste is by stating the fact Gen 1 and Gen IV starters are the most well designed lines becaude that's true.

>>30381701
>The only way you can objectively have good taste is by stating the fact Gen 1 and Gen IV starters are the most well designed lines becaude that's true.
I just got here and I already see that this thread is getting worse by every passing minute

I don't think any gens had a set of BAD starters. Usually there's only one I'm not particularly fond of, or one I prefer over the other two.
There hasn't been a gen where I've actually disliked all of them.

>>30381624
Nah Greninja is cool but they suffer from the same Gen 7 humanoid problem but with way worse 3D models.

Can we just post the pics of the starters? Does anyone have a comic of Incineroar hitting on Primarina with a chair?

>>30381399
Some of those aren't bad designs at all, but they lack character. Game Freak is now at a point where they design most Pokémon with a theme and add some character traits to it as opposed to just designing a monster and calling it a day. This goes especially for starters. Incineroar has something distinct about it, but these are just flaming tigers.

Fucking gen war threads man.
If you truely want to make out the best gen considering starters you only need to take a look at the general opinion of the fanbase and draw a conclusion. Which gen has the least hated/ most loved starters? There are gens that are pretty much out of the race already for having at least one major fuck up in their lineup.
>Gen1
all good here except the "Charizard is popular so we have to hate it" special snowflakes
>Gen2
pretty much only Feraligatr doesn't get colossal amounts of hate
>Gen3
Again all good here except the "Blaziken is popular so we have to hate it" special snowflakes
>Gen4
Infernape and Torterra are pretty damn popular. Most people are pretty damn indifferent about Empoleon
>Gen5
Probably the most hated gen considering starters, only gen2 may come close I still love you Emboar
>Gen6
Greninja. The others aren't well received
>Gen7
So far the Owl is the most popular. We'll have to see how things unfold but it seems like water is getting some hate here and there it does look like crap so I can understand it

So yes if we take all that to accont Gen1 and Gen3 seem to be the most popular generations considering starters.

>>30381868
>muh personality

Oh yes, my favorite meme argument Incineroar come up with. Because apparentely you can have a really shitty design, but as long as it does some wacky faces sometimes it's okay

>>30380510
>I haven't seen the animations
>Thinks his opinion is worth anything

Fuck outta here.

>>30382300
A good pokémon design should be appealing to the eye without extra flair or fluff around it. If you need to see Incineroar animated, or in fanart on in a upside-down poorly lit room to like it, then it's a shit design.

>>30380510
You are so fucking autistic, hahaha Fuck

>>30382261
Juxtaposition, anon. If the other two starters were just animals it'd be fine, but standing next to Decidueye and Primarina, Incineroar would be boring if it was just a flaming tiger.

>>30380666
>Practicality
Decidueye's is simple and effective

>Style/looks
Incineroar for sure. What an awesome Z Move. Shame about the localized name.

>>30381399
The one on the right most actually looks good

I wouldn't mind if Incineroar had glove-paws too

>>30381971
I have not seen nearly as much popularity for Torterra as Empoleon, and Serperior was very popular among the gen 5 starters, receiving a fair bit of art and it's own meme for snivy.
Other than those, pretty accurate.

>>30382341
This is true for things like logos and the like for recognizeability. This on the other hand, is design for creatures in a video game. All of the extra details like how the creature you're training acts before it evolves makes you appreciate the transition into what it becomes and adds more to the experience.

So yeah, fuck outta here dumb retard.

>>30382341
GF specifically said they want animations to be extension of the design

yiffbait the 3 of em

>>30381015
A pokemon mostly ignored by artists.
Incineroar falls short of Primarina, and Primarina art doubles Decidueye's.

Rowlett is cute borb with months of markting, Decidueye is still new, and until the anime does something with it, the one with least traction.

>>30378853
No matter how much people try to hype them up I can't get myself to like Primarina and Incineroar. I do like Incineroar's basis and personality but it's design is just not good.

>>30383964
Decidueye has plenty of art. I'm fairly certain it and Primarina are around equal in terms of art. Though Rowlet it still the most popular starter, which would make Decidueye the most popular too, no matter how much art people produce of the waifu seal.

>>30383964
So it's not as popular with artists. Doesn't mean much in terms of overall popularity.