Why couldn't we have had a quadreped litten evolution?

>>30354327
because you touch yourself in public

>>30354327
I hate Litten's artwork, but the OP is actually uglier. Thank god they didn't go for a similar design, whew!

>>30354338
Seriously a quadreped incineroar wouldve been cool.
>>30354365
Whats so bad about it besides the mouth?

>>30354327
Because petting Incineroar on the belly is way too much fun to pass up.

Because luxray, pyroar and liepard already exist for you to have in your party?

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Because the pro wrestling villain tiger pokemon oozing with personality is far superior to a generic regular tiger only it's on fire pokemon.

>>30354463
>on the belly
"sure".

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>>30354554
Rawr, I wonder who's behind this post.

>>30354554
What is i wanted an entei level evolution for litten instead of a bipedal wrestler?
Im juat saying it wouldv'e been like the old days.

>>30354554
We literally had a pro wrestling Fire-starter 2 gens ago, as well as two other "fighter" fire starters. We need to cleanse the pallet and a "literally my mom's tiger" would have been a nice change. They could have even kept the mask bit if they wanted, make the face a different color or something. It's just boring and frustrating now.

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>>30354606
Is it hazeldex?

>>30354672

Nigga they made him fire/dark AND they made him the heel wrestler and if you don't know how important that is you don't care about the wrestling theme in the first place.

>>30354664
>Im juat saying it wouldv'e been like the old days
>old days
What like almost every fire starter being bipedal like Incineroar?

>>30354327
Because you're a flying fucking faggot

>>30354672
How the fuck is Emboar a pro-wrestler?

>>30355201
Of course not. No. No, I don't care about the wrestling theme, and it looks like a cop-out to make another mon a fighter without being Fighting-type to me. The only people that care about the "wrestling theme" are the ones that don't mind the other fire fighters.

>>30354327
Because quadrupeds have nomoves.

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>>30355272

I still never understood the direction Incineroar took. Other fire starters that become fighting (pseudo-fighting in Incineroar's case: the wrestling motif) start to develop such traits in the second stage. Torracat does not present a single wrestling motif -- it's a formidable cat with a flame sac collar.

Makes me think they either slapped Incineroar onto the line or vice versa; the three of them together still don't seem cohesive unlike the other two starter lines.

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>>30355208
So a cat houndoom is just too much to ask?

>>30354327
>people in this thread shitting on this design unironically

I love Incineroar, but I also love this coeurl design as well

>>30354327

You have Sogaleo for that purpose already.

>>30354672

>Emboar
>ProWres

People, we've been over this. He's a reference to Journey to the West like Infernape.

>>30355366
Houndoom is SHIT

>>30354606
talk about watermark, jesus

>>30355476
Sogaleo isnt a fire type though. Nor has any fire moves despite being a sun emissary.
Its like ho-oh is the actual sun god. It has fire typing.
>>30355541
Fuck you unless you can even explain why.

>>30354327
Why would you even want that over based Incineroar?

>>30355572
>Its like ho-oh is the actual sun god.
Ho-oh is a sky rep actually. Not sun.

>>30354554
>muh personality

What a meme argument, especially when you are defending the 4th iteration of Blaziken. A fire tiger without any secondary theme would actually be more original at this point than Incineroar.

>>30354465
none of those are tigers and following that retarded train of thought, you have Blaziken, Infernape and Emboar to have in your party. Of if you just want the wrestlers, you have Hawlucha, Machamp and Emboar in your party, so why was Incineroar even necessary?

>>30355572

Ho-Oh is actually the Vermillion Bird

>>30354327
Because bipeds sell more copies to kids. Always remember /vp/, you are not gamefreak's target audience.

>>30354327
This is pokemon not some fucking digimon or yokai shit

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>>30355633
Cause i wanted be a cat houndoom. I like incineroars typing but not the design. The motif is dumb. It went from cool and collected litten to over the top heel fighter. If it had kept calm it wouldve resonated with me more. But i guess the starters this gen in particualr are just trying so hard to appeal to everybody. My contrarian nature doesnt want me to accept it as good. Like one of my favroites houndoom. Which isnt even available in this game.

>>30355366
You didnt answer his question, faggot
Also
>I want yet another quadruple cat but this one MUST be a starter!
I want an elephant in a gold cage and so fucking what. What a boring whine thread

>>30354397
It just gets bigger

>>30355633
It's more original at least.

>>30355744
Not even normies like Incineroar. Think about it, you have a fire tiger, kids should be all over this shit, and yet in all the twittr polls Pokémon does Litten always loses to Rowlet. You have to fuck up real bad for that to happen

>>30355800
As opossed to Incineroar's "it just gets bipedal"?

>>30355740

>Machamp
>Wrestler

That is a championship belt for bodybuilding.

>>30355771

So you weren't aware of the Japanese zeitgeist surrounding Tiger Mask and ProWres. Contextualize yourself and the shift makes prefect sense.

>>30355804
I mean it's competing against 2 other bipeds/anthro It would do even worse as a full on tiger.

>>30355800
Torracat is a bigger version of Litten and everybody likes Torracat.

>>30355804
How is a generic monster cat more original? It looks like he-mans pet. Im genuinely curious what made you think that is a good argument.

>>30355781
Well it doesn't matter now. Incineroar is real and i just think a bipedial fire type starter is tired.

>>30355804
Rowlet only won by 3% or so in the largest poll from Nintendo America

I'd hardly say 3% difference warrants jizzing your pants because the starter you like happens to be slightly more popular

Besides, at least we can all agree popplio was a flop, it got something like 21%. Not even a fourth.

>>30355170
Nope.

>>30355904
Because what Incineroar does was already done 3 times before by fire starters. Yes, Gamefreak we get, you think the "humanoid body + random martial art + animal head" is a winning combination but that stopped being original on Emboar.

Litten evolving into a normal-looking tiger (I'm talking Persian-tier of simplicity) would actually be more original at this point because at least it was not done to death already. To add insult, Incineroar has some terrible proportions. What the hell

>>30355569
talk about 3000 bucks, jesus.

>>30355924
>Well it doesn't matter now
You cant just tell nonsense and say it doesnt matter when someone points it out

>This is still going on

The damage is done, we'll never get a quad tiger starter. Get fucking used to it.

You'll either have to settle with Torracat or entirely trash it, whichever fits your mood best and depending on how much you hate Incineroar.

Me? I bloody hate it and I'm one mean ass Fire starter fag. But getting another Fire starter specifically designed as standing just because Game Freak somehow can't handle making anything revolving a quad starter ever since Typhlosion is also getting really fucking tiring.

Now I know how people felt like when they complained about Emboar, even though I fucking love Emboar to bits. They just ran out of patience more quickly than I did.

And actually, now that Incineroar exists, Emboar doesn't even look like it stands out any longer, I'm beginning to see some of the starters as "more of the same" rather than "they all stand out in their own way".

>>30356010
What the fuck about incinerors personality makes people even want to like it? Isnt it supposed to be a big tough guy thats soft on the inside? Basically zangief i get it. But it just isnt as appealing as zangief. Because for one it has no neck. The teeth jut or of its mouth awkwardly. And the tail just seems like an after thought it forgot to get rid of when it evolved.

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>>30354327
We're not allowed nice things anymore after all the leaks

>>30355953
Since you bought the target audience argument it's important to see things like kids do.

Kids love fire-types. Kids also love badass animals like dinossaurs, dragons, tigers, etc. Kids don't really care for grass-types and I doubt most of them really care much about owls when eagles and falcons are way cooler.

By base design alone "fire tiger" should triumph over "grass owl" any day of the week and by a large fucking margin. If Incineroar was well designed in the least, or at least wasn't another lame fighter it would have completely smashed the popularity polls

>>30355982
>But muh another fighter
If you want to stick to that point so badly then you would still need something more interesting than a personality lacking cat to call it more original. There are problems with incineroar indeed, but in this case a black tiger wrestler pokemon made sense. It is annoying how the best thing people will think of as a good design is just another boring quadruple cat. In this case you could say primarina is an original design.

>>30356124
Personally I'm more offended by the arms and legs

>tiny ass legs
>arms are just weird cones with no definition, they are just rubber tubes that bend awkwardly in the middle
>pathetic forearms
>those wrists
>those sausage hands

At least they could have given it decent proportions

>>30356124
Wrong person?

>>30356158
That's where you're wrong. Since they made the Owl Bipedal Western Ninja Archer, it would've automatically beaten out a quadruped fire starter.

>>30356199
>muh personality

What a stupid meme argument. Yes, we get it, Incineroar makes some wacky randumb XD faces on Pokémon Refresh. Doesn't mean it's a good design in the least. In fact, I'm sure GF could also code some wacky expressions for a quadrupedal fire cat if you care about that so badly

>made sense
Not it did not. Litten is not a wrestler. Torracat is not a wrestler. The whole wrestler thing came out of nowhere. At least when Emboar happened, Pignite managed to make a smooth transition to the final stage

>>30355953

You wanna know how popular Popplio actually is? Because I'll tell you how popular Popplio actually is.

People love Popplio.

All 12.5% of it.

Yeah that's right, no one gives a shit about male Popplios because to many, they go against what the rest of the line looks like.

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>>30356202
I can't wait to see someone try to make a realistic depiction incineroar just to see if itd even be possible.

>>30356202
I'm starting to think that many of the new pokemon designs take into account how arduous it would be to create their models. Rubber tubes are easier that realistic muscle and bone structure. I don't want Pokemon to be literally animals but I think Incineroar would have looked much better with some muscle definition and sharper paws/claws.

>>30356269
Go see college wrestling and then look at Torracat.

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>>30356147

>Those designs
>Nice

They're forgettable as hell. They went for something cartoonish yet striking this Gen and by god, it worked.

>>30356308

Weretigers, anon. It's pretty easy.

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>>30356124
>>30356158
>>30356269
>I wonder why GF went with a design like this to sell to the kiddies....

>>30356318
That is not an excuse though, because plenty of pokémon in Gen 7 have decent anatomy and don't look like rubber toys, like Golisopod, Solgaleo, WishiWashi, Silvally etc

>>30356344
>it worked

>implying

>>30356357
Because kids everywhere will get the refrence to this anime?
Not that ive seen any of it but is it good enough to warrent making litten into a human wrestler out of nowhere?

>enjoy with our ghostly nerd, furbarabait pandering and the tranny seal.

>>30356269
>stupid meme argument
Addig meme before a noun even if it doesnt make sense is a stupid meme.
>Not it did not
Yes it did for the reason i wrote. It represents a specific theme, and whether you like it or not doesnt matter.
>Litten isnt a wrestler
Durr charmander isnt a dregn and Fenneki isnt a furry wizard. Instead of making up nonsense arguments and call them facts just write you wanted a fedora sexy edgy cat and call it a day.

>>30355953
I picked Popplio...

>>30355804
>big bipeadle cat
>more origional than a heel wrestling tiger

>>30356444
Yes the first proper fire tiger pokémon would be more original that Blaziken 4.0

>>30356357

Thank you, someone brought this up.

And Incineroar definitely didn't also have a n y t h i n g to do with the fact that this year just so happened to also be Tiger Mask's big fat anniversary nor does he have anything to do with the fact that a certain someone from the same company is in fact, a big ass wrestling fan.

>>30356433
>picking the trannyseal
Disgusting.

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>>30356394
The concept transcends the anime in Japan

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>>30356364

Have you actually looked at Golisopod's soft bits? It's literally armor strapped to a stress doll.

>>30356389

>Three of the most, if not the most, distinctive starters in the franchise with personality in spades
>Implying that didn't work

>>30356470

Tiger Mask has been a thing since the 70's.

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>>30356318
They have said in interviews that gens I&II were first done on sprite art, then got concept art.
Gen III, IV, V & VI first concept art, then sprites and models.
Gen VII got models done and the concept art came after the model.

You can see it clearly looking at Delphox's art and model and comparing it to any Gen VI pokémon, whose art usually sucks and have great models and animations.

>>30356394
It's not only an anime, its just the lastest anime of a series of real life wrestlers, mangas animes and tv shows.

If Pokémon was brittish, it Incineroar would be Doctor Who, the Pokémon.
On it's aniversary.

>>30356470
Does this mean we'll get a cena pokemon?

>>30356444
No reason to say it might have been less original if it were on four legs. Motifs aren't given to bipedal lines only.

>>30355804
>It's more original at least.
Yeah because an unoriginal big cat in an RPG is totally more original than a bipedal tiger wrestler.

Next you'll say that generic cat animations are more unique than what we currently have.

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>>30354327
I actually like luchalitten, I just don't want it.
I don't care if the evo is quad ped or standing up, either. I just don't want it to be so "fighting" like, for the millionth time.
Litten is like a housecat. Thats what appealed to me, and i wish it kept that motif somehow with its evolutions instead of a vicious tiger or something.

The decision to not evolve my litten is probably the best thing I did in my run.

>>30356421
Nope it doesn't. It would make sense if Torracat had something wrestling going on but as it stands now, Incineroar is just bigger shift than Dewott to Samurott

The difference is that when Charmander evolves into Charmeleon, it gets dragon-esque features setting it up for the final evolution, and when Fennekin evolves, it reveal an obvious magic theme that smooths out the transition to Delphox. Incineroar does nothing of it, the wrestler just comes outta nowhere

>>30355804
You realise that incineroar is currently the hot shit right now right?
Most normies DID like Rowlet but dropped him upon seeing its animations.

>>30356549

>I don't what a wrestling singlet is: the post

>>30356509
>pre-evo is pure dark type because John Cena was a Heel at first
>fully evo is dark/fighting because it became a face, but it's still not entirely a true fighter

>>30355982
>Because what Incineroar does was already done 3 times before by fire starters.
Uh no it hasn't. Show me the Pokémon that have the exact same theme and personality as Incineroar.

>>30356567
Anon, just because Torracat has a black dorso doesn't mean it's a singlet. And Torracat does not looks like a wrestler at all. It still attacks and moves very much like a cat, while things like Pignite and Braixen actively developed the secondary themes that would show up in the final evolution

>>30356509
Nah
Bob Sapp

>>30356158
I actually didn't like any of the designs for the starters this gen.

Popplio is obviously a trap
Litten is fur/bara-bait
Decuideye is one of the edgiest pokemon ever created

>>30356601
>it's a wrestler
Hawlucha, Machamp, Emboar, maybe Hariyama

>it's a humanoid fire starter
Blaziken, Infernape, Emboar, Braixen

>it's a humanoid fire starer based on a martial art
Blaziken, Infernape, Emboar

>it's a humanoid fire starter based on a wrestling theme
Emboar

>its has a hot-blooded, cocky personality
Half of the fire starters, a shitload of fully evolved pokémon in general

>Incineroar
>Original

>>30356549
>it gets dragon-esque features
You mean a horn on its head and angry eyes? Anyway all you write is some autistic nitpickery about what you dont like and i dont see how that argues the case that a quadruple cat is not original and a bipedal tiger that is also a heel is a concept that has more thought put in and has at least some basic personality connected to the black tiger character it represents.

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>>30356509
We need a kane

>>30356745
>he thinks Emboar is a wrestler
>he thinks Hariyama is MAYBE a wrestler, when it's called sumo WRESTLING
I don't even like Incineroar, but you're pretty much THE stupidest poster in this thread right now.

>>30356745
If you haven't read posts other than your (You)s, it was made to celebrate the anniversary of Tiger Mask because, as you noted on your list, one of the creators has a hard-on for wrestling.

For those who want a comparison let's say toucanon was fire/flying and then the next regional bird was fire/flying. Then we got back to normal/flying or something. Then the gen after was a flaming Phoenix but since it used the fire as a guiding light so fairy/flying or something. Not that the idea is unoriginal but it wasted on something we say previously. I was sort of hoping a pure fire chimera with protean but at least I sort of had what I wanted with type:null

>>30356745
That way every single personality in pokemon has been used, how is the thing op defends supposed to be better?

>>30356757
There are tons of mythologicals tigers out there. I don't know why you Incineroar fags think that if Litten evolved into a proper quadrupedal tiger that looks like a tiger it couldn't also integrate some neat supernatural tiger god theme on it. What a shitty copout

>>30356796
And how is that an excuse? Today is the anniversary of George Harrison's death, should they also make a Beatles-based pokémon because of some random pop culture reference?

>>30356745
>emboar
>wrestler
It's based off of Zhu Baije you idiot.

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>>30356561
Rowlet is the most popular. Not Decidueye.
Not that he is bad or unpopular, but it lacks the popularity the "borb" caught.

>>30356851
>random pop culture reference
Pic confirmed.
Read the damn thread.

>>30355800
meme

>>30356865
And I suppose that very obvious wrestling singlet on Pignite is not related to wrestler at all, no sir

I know you're trying really hard to pretend that Incineroar is original in any way, but let's be objective

>>30356851
>random
Tiger Mask is japan's blue demon. It's been their pop culture for 40 years. They literally just made an anime about him and there's Tiger Masks in their wrestling systems today.

>>30356745
>Hawlucha, Machamp, Emboar, maybe Hariyama
Lucha
Amateur
Not wrestling
Sumo

Which of these are heel wrestlers?

>Blaziken, Infernape, Emboar, Braixen
May as well rule out every humanoid pokemon in that case if its the only rule for being unoriginal.

>Blaziken, Infernape, Emboar
If you hadn't noticed pro wrestling isn't a martial art. If anything it's more of a stage play where they do their own stunts also the last two aren't even based on martial arts but journey to the west but you aren't too bothered when GF really does reuse themes because of your irrational hatred of Incineroar.

>Emboar
For the last time, journey to the west is not a wrestling theme.

>Half of the fire starters, a shitload of fully evolved pokémon in general
You do realise head canon isn't a valid arguement right?
Up until now the starters haven't had any personality on this scale. They've all been the generic shit you seem to prefer.

>>30356981
That guy has a problem mixing Bipedal, Anthropomorphic and Humanoid.

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>>30354327
Because then we wouldn't have Meowchoman Randy Savage.

>>30356509
Electric/Fighting or Electric/Dark Atom
IonCena

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>>30356962
>Incineroar and pic related are literally based off the same thing.
Neat. I just named mine King because I just thought they looked the same

>>30357017
That's why we're here to educate.

>>30355201
nigga fuck wrestling in general

>>30356981
Machamp is basd on a wrestler. It has an wrestling belt. And if you're going to split hair on wrestling sub genres, we might as well have an entire gens of fire wrestlers, except with different animal heads, and one being a grappler, another being a face, etc.

I purposely only listed fire starters, because that's what we mostly compare Incineroar too. We can break down 4 fire starters to "human body + martial art + animal head" and Incineroar is one of them.

Wrestling is considered a sport, and its principle extend beyond WWE drama, so you're wrong here, and you're an idiot so bltantely ignoring the wrestling singlet on Pignite

And for the last time, just because Incineroar makes wacky faces on Refresh doesn't mean it's a good design. In fact, Incineroar is supposed to be a pokémon species. Am I supposed to believe every single Incineroar ever has the same hardwired personality? And personality has no bearing on the design anyway, pretty sure almost everyone would still dislike Incineroar if he was still a aloof type of pokémon

>>30356147
As someone who cut himself off from all Sun/Moon news since the announcements I am so happy it didn't turn out like your pic.

Edgy owl Archer, WRASSLAN Heel El Tigre, and Fabulous Sea lion thing are SO much better.

I was completely blown away when my Toracat evolved. And then it got a fucking Lariat as a move. PPP all day baby.

So if the next fire starter evolves into a bipedial marshal artist or wrestler whatever. People would still like it regardless of what it looks like dispite the last five fire starters doing the exact same thing but different.

>>30357135
>but different.
Pretty much.

>>30357164
Then i guess charizard will continue to be the most popular fire type starter and in general for the rest of time.

>>30356851
I have problems with incineroar but i overall think it is ok. However i have more problems with autismos that cant even think of a better design and only thing they will do is ram the whole 'muh edgy quadruple' like it was some weird new religion. And i do think the concept could have been more interesting, because it always can, but i have yet to see one presented in threads similar to this one. Because all i see is faggots that would just whine about wanting a 'serious cool cat' but wont add anything actually new and cool to it, which makes them on par with incineroar, if not slightly worse. At least incineroar has a backstory and is meant to be funloving and childfriendly, you know, like a character in a game directed at kids.

>>30357135
Well yeah.
If its different what's the problem.

>>30357130
Machamp's based on a body builder, senpai.
And if you want to REALLY split hairs, you could say he's based on a Pancration/Greek Wrestler. Not a professional one.

>>30357198
>At least incineroar has a backstory and is meant to be funloving and childfriendly, you know, like a character in a game directed at kids.

When I was a kid I liked Charizard because it was ferocious, and so did everyone else. Ferocious pokemon are cooler than dad-pokemon.

>>30357212
Its boring and repeitive. The only thing making incineroar stand out from all the other fire types is that its by far the ugliest.

>>30354327
More fake art of the evolutions please. I need my seel clown crusher

>>30357191
>implying the fire version of Samurott/Torterra would do anything to current popularity.
Because 7se those two were so popular.

>>30357135
> Kickboxing Chicken
> Son Goku: The Pokemon
> Fat Ganon fire thing
> WRASSLAN MEOWCHOMAN RANDY SAVAGE

They're different enough for me.
Fire/Fighting is a little old, yeah. But I like their themes.

>>30357198
A regular fire cat can also have some flavor text on the official site for "backstory" and have a funloving personality, once again, Incineroarfags understand once and for all that that you can also do the wacky faces XD on a quadrupedal pokémon and you can also have secondary theme on a quadrupedal pokémon. Jesus Christ

Even though I like HeelTiger the direction they took still feels weird. Litten looks so bored in its art and model that kinda gives off a passive sassy feel. Everything about litten's "personality" felt like it was dropped soon as it evolved, but none of the other starters this gen do that

>>30357130
>Wrestling is considered a sport, and its principle extend beyond WWE dram
Not heels, nor jobbers.
Go to the olympics to lose at some sport.
I'll wait.

>>30357287
If you fail to get your non argument into account several times, why bother reposting it?

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>>30357284
The only real time people complained was because they did back to back Journey to the west in gen 4-5

>>30357130
Not him but let me get this right.

You dislike Incineroar because it shares a loose connection with Machamp.
Is bipedal.
You THINK wrestling is real and that Emboar is based on a type of wrestling.
And that it has personality.

Have you always been this retarded?

>>30357296
Personalitywise, the line gets "hotter" each stage.
Litten doesn't care, Torracat is passionate and Incineroar goes to the other extreme of being brutal.

>>30357322
Because it wasn't debunked and judging from the responses, it doesn't seem like it will be anytime soon.

As a solid argument, it's worth reposting. Stay upset

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>>30357296
>but none of the other starters this gen do that

What? Rowlett starts off cute as hell and becomes an edgy archer in his final Evo(Not that this is a bad thing.)


Am I seriously the only one who likes all the starters? Primarina just needs to be female. But other than that they're fine.


Better than Gen 5's forgettable shit. With Serperior being the only decent one. Gen 6 at least gave us Greninja.

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>>30357336

>>30357336
>I'm going to do an epic comeback where I oversimplyify points and word them differentely to favour myself

I'm not even going to bother replying to you seriously. Have a (You)

>>30357397
>I'm not even going to bother replying to you seriously.
And no difference was found.

>>30357269
>Its boring and repeitive
You just said that its not. Make up your mind.

Also just because one thing has a similar trait to another doesn't make it boring or repetitive.
For example think colors for something more fitting your "smarts".
A crimson red isn't the same thing as a bright red even though they fall into the same area.

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>>30357360
That looks boring as fuck.

>>30357375
I also like all the starters this gen.

People are just complaining because they didn't get what they want, but I think this is far superior than "it just gets bigger."

Primarina is my favorite.

>>30354327
Why can't we have any fully evolved normal looking housecat pokemon?

>>30357258
Lol so what? Thanks for still contributing nothing but personal sentiments. I think everything was explained about incineroar so far regardibg his origin but you keep adding how you want something edgy and it still wont make your dream cat interesting. Also to add to it there is nothing more ferocious to charizard than is to other pokemon in gen i, it is just the anime made him popular. Which is what im sure is going to happen with incineroar and this generation of kids.

>>30357449

Delcatty, Purugly, Alolan Persian.

>>30357449
Delcatty?
Purugly looks like one of my cats.

>>30357449
There's at least 2

>>30357444
Ah yes the good old "it just gets bipedal". Truly the pinnacle of original pokémon dsign

>>30357470
Unless they hate it also.
https://youtu.be/wSOZnZ32sDQ

>>30357375
Rowlett gave off a quiet neutral feel though, and so does the rest of the line
I don't know what him being cute has to do with it

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This is what I wanted, a nice sleek panther. Owltair is a bit much, and Ballio is a nightmare, but I'd happily deal with it for a panther pokemon. I also wanted a dolphin pokemon.

>>30355572
>Nor has any fire moves despite being a sun emissary.

It gets fucking Flare Blitz by level up you moron

>>30357449
>Persian
>Purugly
>Delcatty
>Liepard

A lot of these are reserved for the big boss of each generation of evil teams, but most of them are still normal looking

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>>30357509

>>30357357
Not that there's anything to debunk. Needless to say being bipedal allows for more interesting expression and diverse animations than a quadruped.

After all you can't have a quadruped do a spinning lariat.

>>30354327

Would have been better if it was a tiger. Pokemon still doesn't have a fucking tiger!

>>30354327
yeah i´m also still upset about the fucking wrestler

>>30357544
Purugly is hideous, Delcatty looks like an alien, Liepard is not a housecat, Persian is just sort of eh

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>>30354327
Incineroar just needs better proportions, forearms and wrists just shouldn't be that thin when you've got that amount of bulk.

Does anybody have that gif of Litten sneeze evolving into Torracat and then into Incineroar? The Incineroar in that thing has some good muscular tone and I think I forgot to save it.

>>30357360
I like it as a design, but its not really a Pokemon design.

>>30355800

it just gets bigger >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it turns humanoid

>>30357494
You replied hastily, posting a vid of some angry brat i shouldnt be caring about. This is a great discussion, kek.

>>30357568
Where did it's neck go?
Also, stapling Incineroar's head on a tiger looks mighty weird.

>>30357587
That's untrue by default because we're talking about a fantasy world here. You could have a quadrupedal fire tiger doing backflips everytime it attacks. Animations and expressions are only limited by the skill of the animator. In particular, I'm pretty sure the face of a quad can be as expressive as the face of a bipedal

>>30357606
I don't know about that. His proportions remind me of old Kinnikuman stuff with a little bit of western inspiration.

>>30355201
>you don't care about the wrestling theme in the first place.

yeah, so what? There's already like 5 wrestling Pokemon, suck a dick

>>30357637
Incineroar doesn't have a neck wither, but you're not complaining

>>30357623
An angry brat who politely starts with "This is just my opinion".

>>30357651
You would loose out on practically all common body language.

>>30357687
>neck wither
What?
Also, I meant that there is no visible connection to the body + an interruption.
You can just not have a visible neck, but the fire makes it look like a floating head.

>>30357651
>That's untrue by default because we're talking about a fantasy world
Sorry but a fantasy world doesn't mean you can go Willy nilly with things. There still needs to be some degree of consistency.

Oh and your backflip suggestion is about the best you can do with a full biped.

>>30357287
Then have a quadruple cat with fun personality with wacky faces i dont care. Just dont post a generic fire cat and say to everyone, yes, it is a good design because it is QUADRUPLE and SERIOUS like it was a argument to anything. Also if you are so obsessed about seriousness then maybe you shouldnt be playing pokemon in the first place.

>>30357783
Apparentely you can though, since Machamp and Incineroar both live in the same world, but while one has decent proportions and anatomy, the other had exaggerated oversized rubber limbs. Given that, a tiger doing backflips is not a stretch, especially if you go with a circus theme or something

>>30357771
>You would loose out on practically all common body language.

Friendly reminder that quadrupedal animals also have expressions, body language and all that other personality shit.

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>>30357323
Gee, i wonder again.

>>30357861
Why are you assuming I'm the one who posted the fake evolutions in this thread?
Why do you assume a serious personality is not as valid as an over-the-top meathead personality?
Why do you assume that not putting the emphasis on "muh personality" like you fags do means I want everything edgy and gritty like my R rated RPGs?

Damn son, you must be a kangaroo, because you sure like jumping into conclusions

>>30357865
Keyword: Common.
Humanoids act humanlike by default, this gives them an easy way for animators to make them understandable.
Even if you have a great design and research, outside of the face you will know jackshit about tiger-body-language.

>>30354327
Thanx god that u didn't work for GF.

>>30357771
>An angry brat who politely starts with "This is just my opinion".
That wasnt my point, stop being silly. I didnt even bother to watch the video, it is just some kid.
>On the sidenote, Incineroar might become popular thanks to anime similarly to how charizard did
>But look this kid doesnt like him!
Do you really not find that funny?

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>>30357509
FUCK OFF AND TRY LESS OBVIOUS.

>>30357940

Why is this a problem for Inceneroar but not for the other hundreds of animal Pokemon?

>>30357963
Starter.

>>30357519
Well i didnt know that. Wouldve been nice of it had stab on it. Because its basically useless for it.
>>30357945
Because if I work for gave me for you I would have kept all of the features and every game. Instead of systematically removing most of them.

>>30357651
>You could have a quadrupedal fire tiger doing backflips everytime it attacks.
Because that totally hasn't been done before and even if it hadn't it'd get old quick.

>Animations and expressions are only limited by the skill of the animator. In particular, I'm pretty sure the face of a quad can be as expressive as the face of a bipedal
Wrong. Expressions and animation is always down to the initial design. You couldn't give shit like Persian the facial expression Incineroar shows in refresh, darkest lariat or malicious moonsault because Persian doesn't have the correct proportions or face for it.
You could slap a humanoid face on to persian to allow for at least the facials but it would create a dissonance from the rest of the design.

>>30357940
Tiger body language is not rocket sciene. I'm pretty sure even a kid can understand that a lowered head and angry face, means he wants to attack, moving his body around means he's happy and being on the ground lounging around means he feels all chill and relaxed

>>30357980

Why is it a problem for Incineroar, but not for Venusar, Meganium, Torterra, Samurott, Serperior, or Primarina?

>>30354327
That's really fucking ugly. Why do all quadrapedfags have such shit taste?

>>30357865
>Apparentely you can though, since Machamp and Incineroar both live in the same world, but while one has decent proportions and anatomy, the other had exaggerated oversized rubber limbs.
You realise this has nothing to so with the conversation right?
We're talking about consistency in a single design not the entire world.

Also no one said that it would be a stretch to make a biped backflip but that it's been done with every quadruped creature fictional or otherwise and its the most you can do with it.

>>30358091
*incineroarfag

>>30358079
Because those Pokemon are based off things that actually stand on most of those legs

>>30358091
Because they think that boring and predictable is the way to go.

>>30355541
Here's your (you) now go back fap to primatranny.

>>30358177
and how is inceneroar not boring and predictable in every way?

>>30358170
And?
They've done the quadruped thing way too much with very little variation.
Hell Torterra could have been an alolan venusaur.

>>30358177
>Incineroar is a unpredictable and risque decisions
>kek

Pretty sure a fair number of people predicted Incineroar. Of course most were just goofing about GF's tendency to make fire starters as humanoids fighters, but still

>>30358193
4u

>>30358214
Because it combines themes in a way we haven't had yet?

Unlike a generic big cat that we have several of and is also one of the generation mascots.

Checking in with a level 70 Torracat.
Not that I don't like Inceneroar, but I like the other so much more.

Get over it. Wth. Whining about it like underage kids won't magically turn Incineroar into a quadrupedal Pokémon.

>>30358259

it's a humanoid furbait Pokemon that looks nothing like the animal it started as,and has a fighting theme. Yeah, never seen one of those before.

>>30358222
>Hell Torterra could have been an alolan venusaur.

If you're going to stretch it that hard, Incineroar can be the alolan forme of any fire starter from gen 3-6

>>30358259
Ah yes, the good old "if Incineroar was quad it would totally just be a generic fire cat without any secondary inspiration whatsoever" strawman. A favorite among Incineroarfags

>>30358233

To be fair, most were trying to guess more about the typing, but that ironically backfired.

>>30358233
>Pretty sure a fair number of people predicted Incineroar.
You'd be wrong then. No one expected a bipedal, wrestling based tiger until after the leaks happened.

Mainly because they didn't see how they would make it bipedal and expected a volcano theme in a similar vein to Venusaur but fire.

>>30357930
>Why are you assuming I'm the one who posted the fake evolutions in this thread?
That is such a stupid thing to write.
>Why do you assume a serious personality is not as valid as an over-the-top meathead personality?
I do not think that, but you clearly think the opposite, and that is my problem with threads like these. Literally all arguments i see is muh quadruples and muh edge and having a cartoonish tough guy with soft heart cat with two legs (!!!!) is a no-no, because they say so. Which i suppose refers to your first question, because you seem to defend those that post those kind of images by disregarding incineroar for such childish reasons. As i said you can have a cat with three legs and make it interesting, but if you want to criticise incineroars concept you should come with something interesting yourself and not think edgy/serious=interesting. Because that way your idea of originality is on par with the official design but for some reason you think it is more than that.

>>30358315
>Incineroar can be the alolan forme of any fire starter from gen 3-6

looks more like Alolan Machoke to me.

>>30358222
Checked and what i mean is even though youre right about the quadreped thing but that only applies to anything not fire type starter to date.
>>30358259
It combines a cat and a wrestler true ww havnt had that yet. But did im preett sure you could do the same theme and not make it atrocious. Look at the extreme buzzswole. Its a huge muscular mosquito similar to the thing its based on in every way. Yet dispite not being a normal pokemon actually fits in with other pokemon. Inceneroar is just a cosplaying human wearing the skin of a litten. Who happened to hit the gym just enough to put on some gains then quit.

>>30358333
>Mainly because they didn't see how they would make it bipedal

You gotta be shitting me, after Emboar anything is possible

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>Most fan four legged forms for FinalLitten are either over designed or too simple, but both miss a lot of ques from the past forms.
Hmm.

>>30358315
>Incineroar can be the alolan forme of any fire starter from gen 3-6
Sorry but none of those have a remotely similar body type nor arew they based on animals that are closely related.

And its not my argument but there's fucking nothing you can do with a quadrupedal cat that won't be either extremely generic or generally unappealing design wise. There's a reason all of the ones we have act and feel the same.

>>30358333
Nope, lots of people predicted Incineroar. The thing is that those predictions were mostly just joking, because people had faith Gamefreak wouldn't be so devoid of originality to the point of making another fighter humanoid fire starter.

It's a bunch of ironic predictions that no one expected to actually become true, so In a way I guess you're right, but then again, if I go to a steakhouse and get served a pile os shit, it's unexpected, doesn't mean it's good

>>30358311
>furbait
So any other pokemon with fur? Or are you calling emboar furbait

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>>30356394
>Because kids everywhere will get the refrence to this anime?

>Why didn't they think of the poor westerners who won't get the reference!

>>30358474
>Or are you calling emboar furbait

how isn't it furbait?

>>30356507
>If Pokémon was brittish, it Incineroar would be Doctor Who

thanks for making me hate Incineroar even more.

>>30358424
>Nope, lots of people predicted Incineroar
Lots doesn't mean what you think it does.
Hell even you said that no one took it seriously and it was a joke.

Most predictions and hopes prior to the leaks were the generic big cats that have been posted thought these threads and that was what prevailed because a biped was totally out of the question in their eyes.

Try as you might but attempting to change history won't make a biped tiger the prevailing prediction. Why do you think there are so many fake quadrupeds and no bipeds?

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OP wants this but bigger

>>30355700
>I disagree with it so it's a meme
Go back to fucking your edgy characterless owl

>>30358505
I still knew who king from tekken was as a kid. You could compare the two and king looks much better

>>30358509
Well it doesnt have fur for one. Also u havent heard of sexualised emboar yet but i dont think i care to investigate.

>>30354327
>a quadreped litten evolution
Do you really think they start with the base form and then design the evolutions? Because, if they started at Incineroar, your question is nonsensical.

>>30354327
Because the japanese are obsessed with wrestling. Notice how Incineroar seems to be the most popular there.

>>30358591
I havent*

>>30358424
Just so you know this is what everyone predicted. >>30357509

No one thought it would become a biped.

>>30358600
Japan's notoriously shit taste strikes again

>>30358571
Don't forget he wants it on fire. Most of the quadruped litten ideas are just fucking Liepard on fire or Arcanine but more catlike.

Because Decidueye is this gens edgy starter without personality

>>30358641
Actually the shit taste is in wanting my mom's cat with some sparklers glued to its back.

>>30358679
>mom's cat
>not being part of the cat-owner master race

>>30358624
>this is what everyone predicted.

No, that is what you hoped. Everyone was expecting another biped, it's Gamefreak.

>>30358594
We have a winner.
In an inteview about samurott thay said they had envisioned a samurai otter and that the part they struggled with was making the transition from Oshawott to Samurott.

>>30358679

mom's _______ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> humanoid _______

>>30358711
>How do i meme posted?

>>30358751
Moms keyring, icecream cone, gearbox and dog didn't have a warm reception.

>>30358749
>they had envisioned a samurai otter

That's even worse because Samurott doesn't look like a Samurai or an Otter.

>>30358571
Man that would be uniroginal as fuck, thank got we got Blaziken with a tiger head

>>30358678
Being aloof and collected is also personality. Something is not devoid of it just because it's not a edgy meathead

>>30358771
posting more dutygenerates.

>>30358812

keyring is great and all those other ones are still better than Incineroar

>>30358644
>Arcanine but more catlike

That would be perfect. Arcanine is a top 10 Pokemon design.Why the fuck wouldn't you want more Arcanines?

>>30358724
I can tell you never paid attention to pre release starter threads.

That was literally the only thing people had on their minds every prediction and hope was for a quadruped based on artwork, trailers an whatever else was out at the time. A biped was always a passing joke at the most that was never considered.

That's why there's no biped prediction art no one thought it would ever be an option. Unless you want to say everyone suddenly threw away their way of doing things just for you.

>>30358821
>N-no u
Blaziken is a fighting cock and incineroar is a heel with a completely different build and role, so your comparison is very lazy.

>>30358819
The interview was about that, the problems making samurott.
In the end, they pretty much said fuck it.

>>30358821
>Incineroar
>Edgy
Do you just repeat words that you see in replies?

>>30358678
>Decidueye
>Edgy

He's just fucking collected, but loses his shit and gets ruffled as fuck when caught by surprise, I'd hardly call that edgy. He's the kind of mon that constantly cleans and grooms itself, I guess sort of like Minccino/Cinccino. You guys are really fucking projecting.

>>30358821
>thank got we got Blaziken with a tiger head
We got a serious kickboxing karate tiger/chicken?
I thought we got a show offy heel tiger.

>>30357035
Signature move is one where they turn invisible then strike

>>30358997
I don't see how Decidueye is edgy either, but since "edgy" is such a watered down meaningless word in modern 4chan, might as well throw it out there for some extra (you)s

>>30354327
I don't know

>>30358909
>That was literally the only thing people had on their minds every prediction and hope was for a quadruped based on artwork

So baseless speculation and HOPE. Uh huh.

And are you forgetting how goddamn early Incineroar was leaked? Jesus, are you the last of the GENERIC HAWAIIAN GIRLS! Because your capacity for denial, hair splitting and straw-grasping is incredible.

>>30359025
>quad
>biped
>quad
I don't think this guy understands evolution.

>>30358869
I dont know, why wouldnt you want more combat sport themed fire starters? ;^)))

>>30358948
>Blaziken is a fighting cock

No, Cumbusken is a fighting cock. Blaziken is a human with a hawk mask. Not even a fucking chicken mask either. And Incineroar is a human with a tiger mask.

>>30358821
>Blaziken with a tiger head
Man, that doesn't even make a ton of sense on a superficial level.

>>30358869
>Why the fuck wouldn't you want more Arcanines?
>why the fuck wouldn't you want the same shit over and over and over and over just so they can pander to my fantastically spastic need for unchanging routine.

>>30354327
If Infernape and Emboar didn't exist I would have been completely fine with Incineroar.

>>30358571
>implying that exists
clearly it does, im making a joke

>>30359130
>the same shit over and over and over and over just so they can pander to my fantastically spastic need for unchanging routine.

That's what we got with Incineroar though. We already had 3 humanoid brawler fire starters. And we only have one Arcanine.

>>30359048
Fair enough, but edgy means apparently a silent, mysterious and uncanny personality on this board so i suppose decidu fits a little being a ghost type assassin

>>30359130
oh yes, Incineroar is such a shake-up, yeah

>>30359072
And yet there are no predictions for a bipedal cat wrestler and yet there are thousands of quadrupedal dark or poison cats.
I don't think you understand what a prediction is and the fact that Incineroar was deemed fake by just about everyone when it cropped up just shows that it wasn't in the realms of their possibility.
Unless you want to deny this too.

>>30359198
According to what people thought we would get it is.

Litten threads were filled with nothing but generic volcano tigers.

>>30359216
fan predicitions are more in the line of "I hope this pokémon evolves into something like this"

What I get from this is that people were hopeful Gamefreak would not prepetuate the bipedal brawler fire starter meme. No one made a serious prediction for a bipedal cat, because in the fanbase that's the worst possible outcome

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>>30354327
The real reason Incineroar is shit is because he has lanky goofy ass arms and legs.
At least give him some fucking muscles.

>>30357684
Name THREE PRO WRESTLING INSPIRED POKÉMON. Body builder/sumo don't fucking count.

>>30359260
lots of people considered the possibility of a generic fighter bipedal litten evolution. Most of those were, however said in a jokey fashion because people were optimistic Gamefreak wouldn't be so lazy to take the most boring, stupid, safe route for the 4th time.

How naive we were

>>30359216
>And yet there are no predictions for a bipedal cat wrestler and yet there are thousands of quadrupedal dark or poison cats.

I don't think you understand the difference between an educated prediction and people's HOPE. People drew what they WANTED. What they HOPED they would get.

That is not a goddamn prediction you fucking inbred. There was no educated guessing that went into the creation of all the damn quadrupeds. The only thing that went in was a whole lot of "Boy I hope this fire starter will finally be quadruped"

Or did your forget all the four legged fennekin evolution "predictions"?

>>30359267
To shorten your post: no one predicted anything near Incineroar and it was mainly quadrupeds.

Good to know you understand.

>>30359290
Machoke

>>30359290

Machoke, Machamp, Hawlucha, Heracross, Hariyama

NAME TWO ARCANINES FAGGOT

>>30359338
>no one predicted anything near Incineroar and it was mainly quadrupeds.

You'll never understand what prediction means, will you?

I hope you die in a fire today. Better watch out friendo, I just predicted your death. Stay away from open flames.

>>30359339
Inb4
>le he's a body builder meme

>>30359084
That is not how hawks look like. It is a shamo chicken with elements of other birds.

>>30359260

volcano tiger would be considerably less generic. We definitely have less volcano Pokemon than humanoid fighters.

>>30359339
>>30359375
I always thought they were. Or are you suggesting Machoke and Machamp wouldn't look good oiled up and competing for the title of Mr Universe?

>>30359374
Wishful thinking does not equal predicting, silly poopyhead.

>>30359409
Well it's Japan, they enjoy martial arts.

Maybe one day they'll pander to the west and draw a goddamn cuckhold pokemon for all the westerners to go YES, FINALLY A POKEMON THAT REPRESENTS ME! but for now, you're at the whims of a culture that has its own cultural tastes that don't mesh with yours.

>>30359409
Torkoal
Entei
Camerupt
You can throw in typhlosion just like the way you add incineroar to fighting types

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I actually like Incineroar's official design a lot more compared to most fan-evolutions. I'm also cool with him being bulky and a wrestler, tigers and saber-tooth cats were bulky and certainly cats wrestle hard in fighting each other IRL.

I said it in another thread, I'll say it here: I'm also cool with him being bipedal, his hands and hind legs just need to be more pawlike/digitigrade respectively to imply he's just rearing up on hind legs to fight like Blastoise, Nidoking, Feraligatr, whatever.

Pic is related to what I'm speaking of when it comes to hands/front paws. Having the hands become paws makes him feel both able to be a heel wrassler and a big cat all at once.

I feel like once the bara-furfags have their time with him we'll see a lot more art like this and people's image of him shifts. Hell, maybe Game Freak will subtly alter his model as such the way Pikachu and Charizard slimmed down in future games from Gen I.

>>30359433
I want to choke on machokes cock.

>>30359328
>still not understanding the difference between a prediction and a hope

Please show me those Biped predictions.

Oh wait, you can't because it literally wasn't a thing gone considered until the leaks came about. What you needmto understand is that a prediction isn't simply
>it's going to be a biped again

But an analysis of what we've been given and what we know is being done.
And you know what was the biggest piece people had on their mind? GF are making change all over.

And that's one of the main reasons why no one ever considered a biped as they expected it to change.
Hell no one even made mock ups for the idea when the leaks presented the possibility.

>>30359287
I came to the realization that GF tries to avoid the bipedal=human in a mask by using wonky anatomy, like Blaziken's proportions and the lack of muscle definition on Incineroar.
Of course, not looking human just causes a second group calling for a fully humanoid design.

>>30359504
>torkoal
a furnace

>entei
not a volcano

>camerupt
right

>>30359369
Bodybuilder, Bodybuilder and posting the same evo twice is cheating, Yes, no since japs fight beetles for some reason, Sumo wrestler

>>30359522
I feel that.
I just think they should go all the way with it if they're gonna do it.

>>30359505
I wish GF would give certain Pokemon new higher quality models, but the models they've made are future proofed for a reason. It's likely that GF intend to stick with the models they have even if they could do better, at least until they're outdated and they're left with no choice.

>>30359369
By your own logic:
Growlite, Arcanine.

>>30359539
cucked you
>>30359375

>>30359581
it's 800 models
EIGHT HUNDRED.
Not including megas, gender variants, alolan forms, and all the other models they have to make in a game

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>>30359378

Combusken is a shamo chicken. Blaziken is not.

>>30359374
Not him but you do realise a prediction isn't hoping we don't get something right?
A prediction is literally taking the information we have and essentially making educated guesses like how everyone thought it would be poison or dark because the markings on its face looked like the alchemical symbol for brimstone. Which led them to a designs that ultimately tried to incorporate that.
Tiger wrestlers were never a part of this process.

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>>30359511
>Hell no one even made mock ups for the idea when the leaks presented the possibility.

Nobody made a mock up of it because NOBODY FUCKING WANTED IT YOU DICKHEAD

Nobody draws fakemon they don't want.

>Please show me those Biped predictions.
>Oh wait, you can't

Pic related fuccboi

>>30359538
Entei has volcano-themed characteristics m8

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>>30359654
And that image supports your case, how? It looks more like that chicken than a fucking hawk

>>30357684
tbrh there is way more quadrupedal cat Pokemon:
Luxray, Raikou, Epseon, Purugly, Persian, Pyroar, Solgaleo, Decaltty.
And i'm not even counting pre-evo.

>>30359661
>A prediction is literally taking the information we have and essentially making educated guesses like how everyone thought it would be poison or dark because the markings on its face looked like the alchemical symbol for brimstone. Which led them to a designs that ultimately tried to incorporate that.
>Tiger wrestlers were never a part of this process.

Ok, so where does the prediction that it would be poison or dark, or that its face was the alchemical symbol for brimstone suddenly mean that it was an educated prediction that it would be quadrupedal?

>>30359664
>Nobody made a mock up of it because NOBODY FUCKING WANTED IT YOU DICKHEAD
Which means it was never a prediction at any point in time.
A prediction isn't what you want or don't want anon its an educated guess that you think may be reasonable. For the last time, no one thought a biped was a reasonable design until Incineroar was leaked.

Also your image was made around September long after the leaks put the idea in people's heads.
Thanks for proving my point.

>>30359369
>NAME TWO ARCANINES FAGGOT
Growlithe, Suicune, Entei, Raikou, Ninetales, Houndoom...

>>30357958
>That wasnt my point, stop being silly. I didnt even bother to watch the video, it is just some kid.
Just pointing it out.
>>30359803
Huh. Never connected the "crest" before.

>>30359830
Dude.
Most people thought quadruped volcano because of the way litten's back flared up while attacking.
On all fours.

I mean, the guy you're talkingnto is obviously stubborn as shit but that was the trait people saw as important and they went with it.

>>30359504

That's 4

compare to:
Machoke Line
Sawk/Throh
Emboar
Blaziken
Incineroar
Pangoro
Electivire

That's only including the bulky brawler ones too. The list of humanoid fighters gets a lot bigger when I include the likes of Lucario, Hitmons, pretty much any fighting type really

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>>30359956
>Houndoom and Ninetales
>Pre-evolution
You sure showed him, anon

>>30356745
Literally retarded. Machamp is a bodybuilder. Emboar is a warlord.

>>30360095
Read the chain.

>>30359504
Don't forget Groudon.

>>30359849
>its an educated guess that you think may be reasonable. For the last time, no one thought a biped was a reasonable design

There was nothing, NOTHING, to suggest that Litten would or would not remain bipedal.

>Also your image was made around September long after the leaks put the idea in people's heads.

http://pcstorm33.deviantart.com/art/Alola-starter-evolutions-fake-611666425

Submitted in May.

http://moofinseeker.deviantart.com/art/SunMoon-Starters-608664470

Submitted in may.

http://dapuffster.deviantart.com/art/Litten-s-final-evolution-idea-608258856

Submitted in may.

http://code-umb87.deviantart.com/art/LITTEN-EVOLUTION-609859493

Submitted in may.

http://scottahemi.deviantart.com/art/Litten-Evolution-Firoothless-613205529

Submitted on June 4, which if I remember correctly was before the Incineroar leak.

http://chespingoddess.deviantart.com/art/Litten-FAKE-Evolutions-611013540

Submitted in may.

All I needed to do was type Litten Evolution into DeviantArt. Did you forget that the internet can be used to look for things?

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>>30359803

Blaziken's beak and eye placement look more like a bird of prey than any kind of chicken I've ever seen. The rest of his body doesn't look like a bird at all; it's a human body.

Nothing on Blaziken looks like a chicken at all. Especially not the fact that he has fucking hands.

>>30360069
Well talk to gamefreak to ban fighting types since i guess this the only way this discussion can end

>>30358591
>never heard of the faithful tepig

anon you dont understand what being a furry exactly entails. Its an umbrella term for all people with animal fetishes. your innocence astounds me

>>30360234
>The Saitama Popplio one
No way that was a serious one.

>>30360247

I don't have a problem with fire types,I have a problem with EVERY SINGLE FIRE STARTER being a humanoid brawler

Like imagine if all the water starters were fish, that's the world fire starters are living in

>>30360314
The Saitama Popplio is a joke, but their Fire Dancer Litten and Cuban Giant Owl Rowlet were serious.

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>>30360321
>EVERY SINGLE FIRE STARTER being a humanoid brawler
wew

>>30357375
Favourite gen of starters for me.

>>30360399

anon

Right now it's more than half

>>30360321
You heard it here first folks.

Charizard, Typhlosion and Delphox are brawlers.

>>30360238
The chicken had an identically shaped head and it's beak wasn't hooked like the hawk's one, also its posture makes the inspiration pretty obvious. As for the hands part - it is a fucking pokemon, in that rate feraligator must be a humanoid too, because alligators are quadrupled and dont have hands. And feraligatrs hands are more humanlike than blazikens.

>>30354327
kys furfag

>>30360429
typing says otherwise.

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>>30360429
>EVERY SINGLE FIRE STARTER
>Acktshually it's more than half

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>>30360490
Right... this is the furfag option

The only reason anyone likes Incineroar on this board is because they are a massive furry or a contrarian.
Its design is the worst a starter has ever had, just look at how disproportionate it is. Tony the Tiger is actually a better designed upright tiger.

>>30360234
Not him but just so you knowmthe starter evolutions were leaked like late may early june. Earliest one I can find was Pokejungle on the 4th of June but I distinctly remember it floating around before they picked it up and Joe calling it fake because it originated here.

Also the whole back arching and flaring up wouldn't make sense on a biped which is why most people were set for quads. A simple search gives you a hell of a lot more quads than bipeds with that volcano theme.

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>>30360446
MUSCLE
WIZARD

>>30360604
We buff starters now?

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>>30359664

There's a decent idea in here. Pre-leaks, I was betting on something Bishamonten based.

>>30360266
My lose then. All it says is any animal-based pokemon can be a furbait.

>>30360630
It's what anon said, every fire starter is a brawler.

>>30360583
Epic bait have a (you) etc

>>30360566
First of all I never said all of them are right now; I said I don't want them to be. And right now it's more than half but increasing every gen

>Megazard X makes Charizard more humanoid and more of a Brawler
>Typhlosion already borderline; who knows what may happen if he gets a mega
>Delphox humanoid but not a brawler

>>30360524
What does typing have to do with whether a Pokemon is humanoid or fights with it's hands?

This thread didn't deserve so many replies

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>>30360695
YELLOW
HUMAN

>>30360781
You must hate like 1/3 of the dex
>Ban all the brawlers

>>30360847

I don't hate brawlers, I hate all the fire starters falling into the same predictable patter

>>30360567
Not everyone is disgusting enough to sexualise a cat just because it can stand on two legs.

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>>30360802
Ill never get the typhlosion is a yellow human argument.
Incineroar looks like the most human fire type. Dispite the disproportionate limbs however.

>>30360881
But the arguments you gave made it look like you have issues with anything resembling a fighting type or a human (?) It can be confusing.

>>30360943
Incineroar fans are though

>>30360701
not everything that goes against your opinion is bait anon

>>30360999
I compared it to all water starters being fish. You think I hate fish too?

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>>30360972
Never been an argument tho.
Just Meems.

Char X

>>30360234
june 6, the day when the fakemons died.

too bad >>26606747 drew that