10 years and still cant be topped

>>30348421
He's a bro

>>30348421
Literally gets owned by Alolan Ninetails. Outsped and outclassed

>>30348421
Yea, considering using him in my playthrough just cause he's so reliable.

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>>30348421
Garwho?

>>30348421
>>30348470
>seel used powder snow

>>30348421

Pretty much perfection in his debut generation, still good even after fairies.

>>30348441
>earthquake owns alolan ninetales
>ninetales lacks sneaky pebbles
>can't run a defensive set to bug physically offensive mons
>doesn't have very good coverage (any steel walls it)
Yeah no

>>30348491
>But it missed
>Seel took damage from the sandstorm
>Seel fainted

>>30348491
>Zygarde lost 2% of its health!

>>30348491
complete doesn't die to shit my dude

>>30348491
>can't be one-shortted by ice beam Genesect
>A seel will
KEK

>>30348569
>implying it starts the battle like that

>>30348491
>Zygarde held on with its Focus Sash!

>>30348592
Seel doesn't even learn Powder Snow.

>>30348441
>Stone Edge
>Earthquake
>Fucking Flamethrower, even
Garchomp is the most overpowered nonlegendary pokemon

>>30348641
>Mega Salamence
>Mega Gengar

>>30348641
>who is cancersword

>>30348441
Wait, so you're telling me some Pokemon have weaknesses?

>>30348641
But that's Blaziken.
Banned 3 generations in a row with no end in sight.

>>30348714
Smogon is run by hoenn baby torchic dickriders who tug themselves off to it though. It's perfectly balanced in SM

>literally any pokemon used ice shard

>>30348755
Doesn't eating a yach berry negate that

>>30348744
>best check nerfed to the point of uselessness
>still no true counters, especially to the BP set
>i-it's fine in SM guys!

Nerf his speed by 2 points and he turns into shit

>>30348798
Isn't Toxapex everywhere now?

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>20 years from now the meta will still revolve around Garchomp and Tyranitar

>>30348782
>yache berry
>in 2016
offensive sets are useless nowadays, the only set anyone bothers with is tankchomp

>>30348569
>dies to CB outrage
t. Mega Fug

>>30348838
>20 years from now on Gengar will still be OU
oh wait...

>>30348617
Anon is a hacker

>>30348790
>gets rekt by any priority move
RIP in Pieces disgusting cockroach

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>>30348421
You were saying?

>>30348421
don't worry, they'll gengar him soon enough.

>>30348912
>>30349533
Why is he bad now? Because he lost levitate? Wouldn't this be a bonus since he can benefit from terrain?

>>30349766
It's weak to dirt, it needed the immunity to that to live.

>>30349766
EQ now assfucks him. And EQ is rather common.

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>>30348421
Kommo-O is pretty darn close to dethrone Chomp. Confirmed from the Battle Tree, Gamefreak previously planned for this guy to learn Shell Smash, but scrapped it from it's movepool for some reason. If they do reconsider in the future, it will be the best non-mega pseudo.

It is truly iconic

>>30348819
>blaziken used baton pass!
>Go, something that easily OHKO's Toxapex and has literally nothing to fear from it due to its low offensive pressure!

>>30349870
Except no

>>30349870
Or maybe because Shell Smash makes no fucking sense on him whatsoever

>>30349927
Explain.

>>30348441
>Garchomp used metal claw
Fucking rekt, take a hike furfag

>>30349870
Sylveon used moonblast!

>>30349766
Can't switch in one of the most common move ever, that's a hard nerf.

>>30350009
You mean
>spritzee used cute charm

>>30350128
Which reminds me, what do vgc use instead of earthquake to not beat themselves up

>>30350264
Protect.

Mega Mence

>>30350009
Whats the fucking difference?
>0 SpA Pixilate Sylveon Hyper Voice vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Garchomp: 312-368 (87.3 - 103%) -- 18.8% chance to OHKO
For Kommo-o's favor, Sylveon will be set up bait if it's Hyper Voice was encored or it's Moonblast was disabled. It abilities grant it immunities to various attacks. It can potentially make Sylveon a liability.

>>30348790
>Pokemon has a weakness
More at 10.

>>30350264
they use earthquake
>>30349991
slower, not as tuned stats (75 hp), no stab eq, worse movepool BUT thats admittedly silly to argue because we don't have tutors yet but for example no fire blast and no sneaky stones.
it'll have a niche, for sure, and its useful pivoting into soundproof/bulletproof stuff depending, but i can't see it being a top dragon, even with fighting stab.

STILL THE BEST 1973

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>>30350440
>0 HP / 4 SpD Garchomp

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>Garchompfag
>People told me he would be shit on VGC16 because Tapus - The Meta
>He just runs Poison Jab now and keeps being a 10/10 mon like he's always been
>Keeps EQ'ing and Dragon Clawing niggas all over despite Grassy Terrain and Misty Terrain making them weaker
>My face when

CAN'T STOP THE KING

DRAGON DANCE NEXT GENERATION

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>>30350530
1 9 7 3
9
7
3

>>30349870
it'll never get shell smash. if anything, shelgon gets it before it

>>30348421
and still the absolute worst design in the franchise

>>30350566
>Implying a Tankchomp is ever going to stay in on a Sylveon

>>30350609
That's not how you spell Crabominable.

>>30348421
this fucker is why gen 4 was a mistake

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>>30350591
>Stars
>He gets an Exclusive Z Move that is basically a stronger Thousand Arrows.
>Gen 8
>He gets Dragon Dance.
>Gen 9
>Mega keeps 102 Speed and gets Sand Rush.
>Gen 10
>He replaces Charizard in Smash.
CAN'T STOP WON'T STOP.

>>30350705
Don't forget Lucario. Shilled deviantart-tier furbait for all eternity.

>>30348441
>It's yet another episode of "this Pokemon has a counter and therefore it's garbage"

>Thinking that the boosts on Blaziken were the actual problem, not passing like a Venipede on crack.

>>30350440
>0HP CHOMP
Go back to VGC

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>>30348421
Oh yes it definitely can

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>garchomp nerf never
>EQ nerf never

>>30348491
>no STAB

>>30348470
bootleg gundam

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>>30348912
So Starmie wins the contest after all
didn't expect that

>>30351668
It dropped down during gen 6 when narotu-frog was legal.

Gengar already won.

>>30351727
if gengar drops out for an entire gen, team starmie can still claim a technical victory

the best kind of victory

>>30351775
It's also possible for for starmie to drop since it got nothing new this gen and the frog might remain legal.

>>30351801
unless power creep gets completely insane I can't see something with that stat spread, movepool and fucking protean remaining ou

then again, strange things are happening, for the first time in 7 god damn gens, porygon is actually using conversion

>>30351380
No. im trying to stop being aroused by things like this

>>30351925
Why contain it?

>>30352089
I dont want to be addicted anymore

>>30350001
>Unironically using Metal Claw
Garchompfags on suicide watch.

>>30352148
Poison jab has been a real option for a while, tho

>>30351840
Splash Gyarados is the one I'm freaking out about.

Fuck, /pol/ really did drag us into the best timeline, didn't it?

>>30352300
dunno
splash gyarados doesn't have the speed necessary to abuse its boost and still sports that crippling electric weakness
I'm personally more interested in splash kingdra

but yeh I get the irony of fucking splash gyarados actually being a thing

>>30352394
Splash Gyara is meant to rip up defensive cores like AmooTran rather than sweep. Haven't used Splash Kingdra at all, but I have used Solgaleo.