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Is this the most forgettable pseudo-legendary they've made yet?

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Is this the most forgettable pseudo-legendary they've made yet?
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>>30326800
No.
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>>30326814
/thread
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>>30326800
That would be Dragonite,
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is it a jojo reference?
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>>30326800
That would be Goodra.
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>>30326857

Dragonite gets bonus points in memorability for being a gen 1 mon.
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>>30326814
Name a more forgettable one

Protip - you can't
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>>30326814
enjoy with your non-fighting stupid axew.
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Haxorus
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>>30326876

Gotta go with this. Completely forgot it existed when internally thinking about the popularity of each.
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>>30326800
>jangly ringed scales
>overlapped scale plate like a fucking warrior
>Clanging Scales 100% accurate 110 BP Dragon STAB
>amazing mixed attacking stats
>forced to run off inferior attacking stat but with godlike special moves, a la Kyurem-B
>dragon fighting typing, one of the best typings in the game if it weren't for fairies

Hell no.
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>>30326876
but primarina is the best pokemon.
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No, this is the most forgettable pseudo-legendary.
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There's a whole trial focused on it and it was in the demo trial, and with such a unique design and typing, I don't think it's remotely forgettable.
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>>30326884
Goodra
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>>30326876
>evolution of the highly popular Goomy
>Ash's first fully evolved pseudo
>slugfucker's waifu
>forgettable
try again
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honestly there are more forgettable pseudos than memorable ones
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>>30326914
>dragon fighting typing, one of the best typings in the game
except jangmo-o
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>>30326914
Can it learn Aura Sphere?
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>>30326800
If it is, it's because it's the newest one.
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>>30326918

>BST isn't 600
>Implying peusdo legendary.
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>>30326879
And minus for being the worst one. Dragon flying is awful.
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>>30326944
>>30326946
*primarina
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>>30326954
Nope.
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>>30326946
Literally on too fetishers remember goodra. It's an awful pokemon
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>>30326946
Basically

>>30326964
I think that's the joke compadre
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>>30326876
Not forgettable. Was a meme on this board and has lots of fetish porn.
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I think it's pretty solid. Turned out better than I thought it would.
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>>30326918
Aggron might be a 3 stage Hoenn Poke that has a Mega, but that doesn't make is a pseudo legendary.
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>>30326918

That's not a pseudo-legendary. Salamence is the pseudo from that game.
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>>30326864
I know this is just a shit meme but I can't look at this thing without thinking of Wamuu.
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>>30327042

Also Metagross.
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>>30326918
It has the same BST as most starters.
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>>30326919
>3'11" tall
>towers over the player
???
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TOP TIER
Garchomp
Metagross

GOOD TIER
Salamence
Kommo-o

OKAY TIER
Goodra
Hydreigon

BARNEY TIER
Dragonite
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Tyranitar > hydreigon > Metagross > salamence > dragonite > kommo-o >>>>> goodra
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>>30327089
Totems are larger than normal Pokemon, dude.
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>>30326978
Multiscale and E-Speed fixed its issues.
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>>30326800
it certainly wins the "worst shiny" award
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>>30326914
Meanwhile in real life:
>shit speed
>underwhelming offensive stats (110/100 is barely amazing these days)
>signature move is special when it vastly prefers being physical
>shitty Fighting STABs (no HJK/CC)
>dead on arrival in the competitive scene
>deviant art tier uninspired design
>dumb English name
No one will even remember this thing exists Coke gen 8
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>>30327106
>BARNEY TIER
6/10 made me kek
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Top Tier
- Dragonite
- Salamence
- Garchomp
- Metagross

Mid Tier
- Kommo-o
- Hydreigon

Low Tier
- Goodra

Edgelord Tier
- Salamence
- Garchomp
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>>30327108
I see what you did there
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>>30327140
>thinking he can get 120-140+ attacking stats on anything that's not frail as shit or a legendary

Kommo-o's attacking stats are good for its bulk. It's why pseudos have so much BST.
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>>30327140
>vastly prefers being physical
>next line whines about no good physical moves

It's a 10 stat difference, just go special. You get Focus Blast. Look at Kyurem-B. THAT prefers being physical. But even Kyu-B and Tyranniboah from Gen 3 made special work.
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>>30326978
>dragonite
>bad

Good joke, nigga.
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he is epic jojomon x))
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>>30327260
>focus miss
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Yes. It's shit in battles, ugly, and doesn't even have an autistic shitposter to remind us about it multiple times a day.
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>>30327108
Hydreigon > Salamence > Metagross > [power gap] > Tyranitar > Goodra > Dragonite > Kommo-O > Garchomp
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>>30327140
You know this thing gets Autotomize and D-Dance for a reason, right ? But what should I expect from someone that barely even plays competitive.
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It would be Goodra if it weren't for the memes. Kommo-o was at least fortunate enough not to be overshadowed by a random 3-stage in its own gen, since the only one is Tsareena.
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>>30326800

Until it gets something to give it a niche....yes.

Shell smash on the battle tree one gives me hope but god knows how long that'll take to get
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>>30327331
you know there's a ton of better dragon dancers, right?

retard
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>>30327187
How is Salamence in the Edgelord Tier, but Hydreigon isn't?
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>>30327134
I actually like it in a it's so bad that it's good kind of way. Really exotic compared to usual shiny colors.
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>>30327106
>>30327187
>Tyranitar forgotten twice

I think we have our answer boys.
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>>30327377
Ouch going all out anon, I see
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>>30327406

Sand is pretty popular though.
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>>30327378
Hydreigon looks as goofy and soft as Dragonite.
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>>30327106
>>30327187
>TOP TIER
Garchomp
Metagross
Salamence

>GOOD TIER
Hydreigon
Kommo-o
Tyranitar

>BARNEY TIER
Dragonite

>WHY DO SO MANY FUCKING PEOPLE WANT TO FUCK IT TIER
Goodra
Fix it for ya champs, and for free too
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>>30327377
Calling other retards doesn't make you a better player.
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>>30327109
if it where to evolve thing would be danm near 18 feet tall
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Kommo-o>Goodra>Dragonite>Salamence>Garchomp>Hydreigon>Tyranitar
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>>30327495
battle me on showdown then you low elo shitter. scared?
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>>30326914
the above-middling speed and a bad movepool hinders him
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>>30327377
Yeah because all other dragon dancing dragons have such a unique type matching, the same level of bulk and the potential to kill steel types as quickly as this one does right?
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>>30327548
My bad, I forgot Metagross.

Between Dragonite and Salamence
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>>30327597
uuuuuhhhhhh..... yes?!
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>>30326978
>>30326857
okay bud.

o
k
a
y
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>>30327495
>>Great
Dragonite
Salamence
Tyranitar
Metagross

>>Okay
Garchomp
Hydreigon
Dragon Fighting Guy

>>Bad
Goodra
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>>30327680
>implying megas will ever return to online meta
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this is my opinion, but:

Garchomp > Tyranitar > Metagross > Salamence > Hydreigon = Kommo-o > Dragonite > Goodra
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>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgIdV09E75o
>Kommo-o used Clanging Scales!
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>>30327680
Charizard is no dragon.

that is merely an alternate form that is TEMPORARY. Charizard will never be a dragon.
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>>30326900
It doesn't have the BST to be a pseudo.
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>>30327717
Superior opinion
kommo-o > Dragonite > the rest all tied
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this is the correct order.

1. Dragonite
2. Tyranitar
3. Garchomp
4. Metagross
5. Salamence
6. Goodra
7. Hydreigon
8. Komomomoomo
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>>30327134
no arguments there
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Tyranitar >>> Metagross > Dragonite >>> Salamence > Garchomp > Goodra > Kommo-o > Hydreigon
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>>30327555
You're just strengthening my point, anon. The fact that you got triggered so easily shows it. C'mon you know better.
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It's my favorite

Good design, good enough to be viable but not too good as to be overused
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Probably yeah. Nothing about it stands out really. I wish he had different stats. I really hate those "balanced" pokemon they just feel really boring to me. Even Goodra had an audacious base 150 in sdef which immediately stands out
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>>30327716
Pokebank.
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>>30327777
Holy quads confirm kommo-o best pseudo
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>>30327777
Nice digits

1. Dragonite
2. Tyranitar
3. Metagross
4. Garchomp
5. Salamence
6. Kommo-o
7. Hydreigon
8. Goodra
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>>30327847
>claims others don't know shit about comp
>scared of a little battle
bwahahahahaha
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>>30327134
>pink nail varnish
It's gold and pink, it'll be joining shiny Weavile on the "so bad it's good" shiny team.

Also Salamence is the worst pseudo. Smogon the Dragon.
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>>30327948
I know right, I'm so scared am I :^)
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Seeing how the question is "Forgetable" and not "Most Disappointing" (which, as much as I've grown to love it,is Goodra) my answer would Salamence, it's the only one I actually forget is a pseudo legendary.
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>>30327965
classic keyboard warrior, backing down with shitposts as soon as it gets serious
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Only newfags rank dragonite last. Anyone who started in gens 1-2 will have it be MOST memorable due to it being the only dragon
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>>30327884
>implying Pokebank will change VGC 2017 rules

this guy.
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>>30326800
>God Tier
Tyranitar
Salamence

>Great Tier
Metagross
Garchomp

>Average Tier
Dragonite
Goodra
Kommo-o

>Bad Tier
Hydreigon
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>>30328010
This was a lovely conversation, anon. But I got to leave for now. Se ya around.
Real talk, I actually can't battle now since my computer is down and Showdown runs really bad on my phone for some reason, I'm not bullshiting this time.
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>>30327911
I mean, Goodra yeah, but why Hydregion all the way down there? If it's the L82 evolution requirement, I understand.
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>>30326876
Well it would be if it weren't for slugfucker, anyway.
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>>30328209
>If it's the L82 evolution requirement, I understand.
82 is easy to get in Gen V though
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>>30328124

VGC did something like this last time too. I forgot what but they banned the popular thing from the last generation to ensure the newest generation's gimmick was well represented by forcing the players to use them due to bans.
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>>30327548
Swap Salamence and Tyranitar, and I agree.
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>>30326800
>give it higher attack than special attack
>make clanging scales, which is supposed to be its signature move, special
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>>30327134
ZA
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>>30328196
I feel like a cancerous faggot for laughing at this but it makes me gag every time from laughter
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>>30327680
>unique type matching
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>>30328196
no it's a MLP reference
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>>30328467
At least it still has 100 SpA
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>>30328894
yeah but then what about STAB fighting type moves?
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>>30328937

Focus Blast.
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>>30328960
>70%
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>>30327283
>defenses drop combat
>high miss kick
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>>30329027
Are you fucking kidding? Close Combat at least hits 100% of the time and HJK is like 90% but hits harder than CC OR Focus Miss. Especially when Focus hits off of a worse stat, how the fuck can you even try and compare any of that to each other?

I'd fucking rather stick with Sky Uppercut
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>Everybody just remembered hydreigon on the last posts.

So, hydreigon its the mots forgettable pseu-legendary of all.
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>>30329432
>100% of the time
he said defenses drop combat
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>>30326800
Incomplete fighting line
Yes
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>>30329432

Special attack has less walls
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>>30329458
Retard, he's making a comparison between Close Combat/HJK to Focus Blast and trying to insinuate that they're just as bad as Focus Blast which is retardedly ignorant to imply
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>>30326800

It's underwhelming for a Pseudo, but at least it's not Goodra.
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>>30329497
>Chansey
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>>30329432

Sky upper does less damage than focus blast. Stop whining about 10 points lower special attack. His physical attack isn't that high either. He's not kyurem-b
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>>30326978
This isn't about being good, it's about being memorable.
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>>30329515
Some people think lower defense is a disadvantage. I don't agree with it myself, and you're the one who thought that he was implying that close combat doesn't hit all the time.
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>>30328577
STAR PURATINOM
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>>30329529

Less doesn't mean zero, so what does naming ONE wall even prove? Not to mention Focus Blast can break Chansey with the right mon.

Want me to start naming physical walls, moron?
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>>30329559
>at least hits 100% of the time

That's me comparing it to Focus Blast. I'm not kidding when I say this, but you do realize that it's a sign of autism when you can't pick up on basic social cues right?
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>>30327518
It did evolve, the one in the main game is fully evolved.
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>>30326800
That thing saved my ass in the elite 4 as a last minute addition. I've liked his design since the start and though the stat allolaction isn't what I hoped, it's relatively well balanced to handle a few roles. I'm thinking of making mine into a hazer.
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>>30329515

HJK is garbage and medilop only use it because they don't get CC. HJK is unusable if the opponent has a ghost or protect
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>>30329593
alright I didn't see the "at least" calm the hell down
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>>30329651
>HJK is garbage
9/10 made me reply
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>>30327763
>will never be a dragon
>becomes a dragon
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most forgettable pseudo here
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>>30327227
>Tyranitar
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>>30327555
>fight me irl!!!!!

lmao SuMo really did bring the kiddies out. this isn't school shitter.
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>>30329715

I had some guys m lop 2HKO itself as I just stayed in. It was pretty cool. The reason people meme it as Focus Miss is the same reason HJK is dangerous. Even in cartridge I've had bonemarang miss 3 times in a row and it's 90% accurate. People miss every other hydro all the time
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>>30326800
No one would remember Goodra if that dumb slugfucker didn't exist.
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>>30329940
It's all a numbers game. The high bp moves are worth using to KO things that normally would survive weaker moves. Fighting moves are the most penalized though.
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>>30330018
but we have primarinafucker
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>>30329848
Wompwomp
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>>30327134
Hakmo-o and jangmo-o look good in there shiny
But kommo-o looks so wash out
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>>30327123
That doesn't fix the fact Salamance is better than it wit no defensive ability
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>>30330189
Intimidate is a defensive ability
Its what makes bulky krookodile and arcanine good
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>>30326918
Not a pseduo, but god I LOVE this fucker's design.
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>>30327123
You just made me realize. Why the fuck doesn't Kommo-O, a Pokemon where its scales are such an important aspect of its design, get access to Multiscale?

Shit is retarded
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>>30326800
x2 Fairy weakness and being Goodra 2.0 (slow bulky mixed attacker) made it a bad combination, but is very far from being bad. It's abilities are very situational.

>>30326857
>>30326879
>forgetting about the best setup sweeper
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>>30326800
I think kommo-o is great
It's a good change from normal fighting is types or dragons

typing is not bad
>le floette used fairy wind xD
Less weaknesses then tyranitar
It can fit on any weather team
Has alot of meme set opportunity
Reversal sash set
Automise weakness policy


Just a shame it doesn't have fire blast and drain punch
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No. One of my favorite designs right next to golisopod and pooplio.
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>>30328718
unique =/= good
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>>30330312
Fuck! He'd be so much better.
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>>30330488
>tfw
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>>30326978
>Salamence
>bad
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>>30327227
It's not that much bulkier than garchomp because of its shit hp. And garchomps speed and attacking stars are good enough that it's doesn't need to boost them unlike kommo-o
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>>30327134
Thanks doc
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>>30331601
wrong color, would be fine green purple.
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>>30326918
Oh, you don't get to diss Aggron. Don't even TRY and pull that shit, brah.
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>>30331677
Aggron fucks fairy types with an iron dildo
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>>30327884
And just how do you plan on getting those Megastones over, huh?
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>>30326800
The 3D model for it is shit
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>>30330437
But is it as good as Guzzlord?
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>>30331471
>It's not that much bulkier than garchomp
>tankchomp is literally format defining

>And garchomps speed and attacking stars are good enough that it's doesn't need to boost them unlike kommo-o
>the only fast chomp sets were scarf
>the only powerful chomp sets were mega or SD
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Kommo-o is super forgettable, which is odd considering it has a unique typing.

Part of the issue is that it's not super good at anything due to that stat layout. High defenses, but low HP so it's only kinda bulky instead of super bulky. Good but not amazing Attack and Special Attack. 85 Speed, not low enough to be a dump stat, not high enough to be useful. Bulletproof and Soundproof are neat abilities but are basically worthless in the the current metagames for both singles and doubles. Meh STAB options. And that unique type combo doesn't really do anything in a meta with Fairies everywhere and everything resisting Fighting.

Then there's the ridiculous Totem Kommo-o. After all the previous Totems, especially Lurantis and Mimikyu, I was expecting an intimidating fight. I burst out laughing when I saw it was level 45, and I laughed even harder when it summoned a level 32 Hakamo-o. Like really, Gamefreak?

And then there's the design. It's a neat design, but it just doesn't have much personality.

Kommo-o is the first pseudo-legendary where I just go "Eh, is that it?"
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Goodra is the only shitty one, everything else is respectable. I even tried to like it due to its pre-evos, but Goodra is really bland, stupid and useless.
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>Tyranitar line is the only Pseudo you can't get in Sun/Moon
Why
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>>30332517
I feel this. It doesn't look particularly impressive, it's move set is weird, and its stats are strange. It's typing is okay, especially since the bravest bird went down in flames, but not great, especially in a fairy-dominated meta.
It might have a niche if everyone and their mother didn't have a 'Mence, Garchomp, or Dragonite already, but they do. It has potential as a mixed sweeper, but given how aggressive the meta looks like it will be, there isn't much room for that. It's abilities are cool, but not great. Soundproof is great for stopping Pixilated Hyper Voice, and that's about it, while Bullet Proof is actually pretty useful at catching coverage moves, as rare as shit like Shadow Ball or Energy Ball are.

The fact that there was doubt when we first saw it on whether it or Drampa was the pseudo should speak for itself.
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>>30332156
Chomp is used because URFQUAKE

Fighting feels shit right now. Like really, really, really shit. Aegislash, Tapu Lele, Tapu Koko, Tapu Bulu, Toxapex, Alolan Marowak, Mimikyu, it's like everything in this format shits all over Fighting types and Fighting type STAB. Only great Fighting types are Pheromosa (Which has ridiculous stats) and Buzzwole (Which is severely hindered by all the Pokemon that shit all over Fighting types).
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>>30327134
meh, it's better than mons like Garchomp where you almost can't tell the difference

Pic related. It's a shiny Garchomp
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>>30332819
RIGHT?
FUCK ME.
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>>30326857
>>30326876

Do you know what forgettable means?

How are either of those unconventional goofballs less memorable than generic-serious-dragon-number-who-cares
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>>30327717
my opinion
salamence>kommo-o=hydreigon>tyranitar>garchomp>goodra>dragonite>metagross

I don't dislike metagross though
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>>30333104
dragonite > tyranitar > metagross > salamence > garchomp
all >
goodra, hydregion and kommo-o tied at the bottom
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>>30332959
that's regular garchomp
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>>30330669
is shine? no tell pixel haha
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So what is it actually good for? Being a mixed bulky attacker?
>Haxorus/Dragonite/Salamence are beter Dragon dancers
>Hydreigon/Salamence are better mixed or special attackers
>pretty meh movepool and its signature move is pretty shitty compared to D meteor
It's not even great defensively.
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>>30333207
>missedthejoke.gif
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>>30332517
>And then there's the design. It's a neat design, but it just doesn't have much personality.

too bad you're literally wrong
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>>30332870
Basically, you've got better options for Dragon STAB and the Fighting type is completely useless right now.
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>>30333207
>>30333323
No, it actually is a shiny garchomp
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>>30333200
don't be a meanie, you jerk!

>>30333296
meteor was nerfed to 130 in 6th gen so it's not much less power, more accuracy, won't lower special attack. I guess you can try to make use of belly drum or autotomize if you want it to be unique
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I fucking love this guy. He might get shit fighting STAB, but what the hell, he's still a ton of fun to use.
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>>30333725
just wait for the superpower tutors
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>>30333447
I think the special drop is better than the defense drop for a slow bulky attacker.
I'm just saying that is has at least 2 dragons better at it, at any given role unless there's something I'm missing.
I'm guessing it's just shit though.
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Metagross>Salamence>Garchomp>Hydreigon>Tyranitar>Kommo-o=Dragonite>Goodra
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>>30326918
Nah, this nigga is legit. Straight wrecks people who aren't prepared for it. Plus, bossgodora is arguably the best Japanese name ever
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>>30326918
That is literally /vp/'s Husbando
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I'm pretty sure after Garchomp everything is forgettable.
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I actually almost forgot the thing was a totem pokemon.
This little monster is to blame. Poor dragon didn't last a single turn.
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>>30333783
Honestly, I think that matters less than the meta changing so that the Fighting STAB actually becomes useful.

Tyranitar and Bisharp aren't in the Alolan Pokedex for who the fuck knows what reason, so two of the most powerful Fighting-weak Pokemon aren't even legal in VGC2017. Bisharp's absence is especially awful.
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physical or special kommoo?
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>>30334231
>tfw all my unova bros aren't in the game
Can you get any Unovamons with the island Qr shit?
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>>30327363
I'm toying around with Bulk Up sets and I don't hate it.
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>>30332819

Because Gigalith has earned his fucking due.
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>>30334307
Unova starters
Rufflet/Vullaby
Axew
They are there, son.
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>>30327134
>>>/mlp/
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>>30334197
Nah, Totem Kommo-o being at level 45 is to blame.

Immediately after beating it, you have to fight a trainer with five level 50 Pokemon with stat boosts.

And then the partners Kommo-o summons are level 32 and have no support moves or status inflicting moves beyond Leer. Seriously, what the fuck?
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>>30334307

Eelektross, Conk, Duosion, and the starters. A few come with Egg Moves.
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>>30327089

Monlets: When will they learn?
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>>30334248
Mixed Autotomize.
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>>30334443
Yeah, after my personal hell of getting slapped silly by Mimikyu, Kommo-o is just sort of a joke.
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>>30327106

>God Tier

Gen V Hydreigon
Gen V Metagross
Garchomp

>Great Tier

Tyranitar
Salamence
Dragonite
Post ORAS Metagross

>Okay Tier
Kommo-o
Current Hydreigon
Goodra
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>>30334307
No Ferrothorn is another bad one. Ferrothorn would wreck the Tapu's shit if it were legal.
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>>30334307
I found a gothita with an egg move and hidden ability from qr scans
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>>30330822
Defensively It is shit
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>>30328209
Hydreigon blows now. Fairies killed it along with everything knowing a fighting coverage move now.

It literally can't hurt a Clefairy.
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>>30335166
Hydreigon makes me sad because it shows how cancerous the Fairy type has become.
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>Want a Deino in party
>It starts evolving at Lv50
>It's one of those "Shifts stats completely upon final evolution" three stagers
WHY DIDN'T THEY ADJUSTED THE EVOLUTION LEVELS??? WHY THE FUCK DO I GET RUFFLET SO EARLY WHEN IT EVOLVES SO LATE?
>>
>>30335166
>Flash Cannon
or
>U-turn the fuck out
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>>30335166
Well, you can always teach it Flash Cannon.
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>>30326884

I forgot them all.
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>>30327043
Exactly what I named it.
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>>30335232
>Get rufflet early.
>Stoked as fuck
>Fucking dominates up to the end of the second island.
>Everything else is fully evolved by the middle of the third island. Stops being able to win fights.
>Is an absolute jobber in aether paradice. I tried to use it against Guzma, and it lost to Ariados, giving it a Fell Stinger boost, and risking the rest of my team
>Get to fourth island, STILL not evolved
Just shoot me now.
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>>30335166
Hydreigon was the king of Gen 6 UU, and it looks like it'll stay that way what with the speed creep nonexistent in Gen 7.

Of all pseudos, it's typing is actually probably the least shit thanks to a bunch of nice resistances like electric or dark and isn't super weak to SR, it's decently fast and hits like a truck. of course it's not shining in OU but neither are many other pseudos, regular metagross for instance has almost zero viability in OU
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>>30328196
it looks like Kakyoin and Dio have a baby.
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>>30327377
Wait, there is better Fighting/Dragon dancer?
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>>30328467
I don't see problem with that. It's still a good move and it has usable attack stat.
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>>30341138
I'm sure Dragonite gets Superpower.
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>>30326800
>the PSEUDO of the game is one of the weakest totems
how did they manage it?
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>>30332517
Personaly I think its a great mon to pair with fairy type.
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>>30326800
that would be me
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>>30341310
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>>30334197
Lol I thing I will have problem with this totem but my Fire Oricorio swept it
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>>30326800
>Top-Tier
Tyranitar
Metagross

>Mid-Tier
Salamence
Draogonite

>Low-Tier
Kommo-o
Garchomp
Hydreigon

>Shit-Tier
Goodra
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>>30341259

Leveling curve fucked right up due to bonus exp from happiness and early exp share.

Only really difficult fight in SM is the Mimikyu Totem, because it keeps calling in Haunter/Gengar that outspeed most things and have 90% success rate Hypnosis. Also the cancerous Battle Royale (de facto 3v1 with enemies tailored to sweeping your team)
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>>30341929
>Garchomp
>Low-Tier

BAHAHAHAHAAAa
>>
What constitutes a pseudo-legendary? I thought it was 600 stat total but a bunch of other pokemon like Genesect has that.
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>>30341244
>no STAB
>>
This is an objective list of the psuedos from best to worst:
Tyranitar
Garchomp
Metagoss
Hydreigon
Salamence
Dragonite
Kommo-o
Goodra
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>>30341973
Pokémon that has a three-stage evolution line, 1,250,000 experience at level 100, and a base stat total of exactly 600.
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>>30341961
Please tell me why Garchomp is worth remembering or is a better pseudo then the rest.
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>>30327134
holy shit that's bad
>>
Wait, Haxorus isn't a Pseudo? I am not trying to say it is the most forgettable, I love it, but it isn't on anyone's list.
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>>30342075
It is not. Gen 5's psuedo was Hydreigon.
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>>30342086
Gen 3 had two.
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>>30342108
Yes, but it's the exception.
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>>30326946
I dunno what the fuck happened in the Ashnime outside greninjas spectacular loss cause I havent watched that since the beginning of Hoenn but I remember goodra more for the furfaggot community surrounding it.
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>>30342075

Haxorus has 540 BST and is nowhere near the bottom of the Pokedex next to the legendaries, come the fuck on, scrub.
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>>30326857
S H I T T A S T E
H
I
T

T
A
S
T
E
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>>30329596
Im not sure if its supposed to be the demo Hakamo-o evolved but god damn that will be my headcanon.
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>>30326964
He didn't imply shit, he just straight up said it.
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>>30327027
Does anyone think the Mega part is part of the definition? No? Okay.
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>>30326800
>ctrl+f "dragonite" -- 27 matches
>crtl+f "tyranitar" -- 22 matches
>crtl+f "salamence" -- 29 matches
>crtl+f "metagross" -- 22 matches
>crtl+f "garchomp" -- 31 matches
>crtl+f "hydreigon" -- 28 matches
>crtl+f "goodra" -- 31 matches
>ctrl+f "kommo-o" -- 33 matches

Well OP, you're dead wrong it looks like. Kommo-o is the least forgettable at the moment, because he's the newest.

Metagross and Tyranitar are tied for the most forgettable, but I'm going to give it to Tyranitar because it took longer for him to be mentioned by anyone in the thread.
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>>30327106
>TOP TIER
>Garchomp

>GOOD TIER
>Salamence

Whatever you reckon mate.
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these are just my prefered Psuedos
top
Garchomp
kommo-o
Tyranitar
Salamence

mid
Metagross
hydreigon
Dragonite

low
Goodra
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>>30326800
Tyranitar still holds that candle because literally no trainer used it in the game it debuted
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>>30342246

Most of the people in this thread don't even know what a pseudo legendary is. Saying people don't know about Tyranitar is stupid as fuck.
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>>30326800
hydreigon is the ugliest and most forgettable pseudo

only thing going for it is the stupid high level it evolves to last stage, cool typing though
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>>30326876
Thats the most hated pokemon of all time

to answer OP's question the most forgettable pseudo would probably be salamence, or maybe garchomp if you're not a millenial
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>>30342246
No, no. The literally who is Goodra or Hydreigon. The others are classics.
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>>30342356
>tyranitar literally never appears in the game
>is a classic
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>>30326876

Goodra is memorable for all the wrong reasons.

Kommo-o is sort of there, which is even worse.

>Doesn't look as good as its prevos, but it's not terrible
>Doesn't have the type combo most people wanted, but it's still unique and was anticipated by tourneyfags.
>Keyword: "was". Strength-wise it's not terrible, but it's nothing special either.
>Behold the mighty end-game dragon appearance and its trial, complete without an actual character to go with.
>You wanted another dragon pseudo, right?

It's just so fucking mediocre.
>>
>>30342393
i wanted dragon fighting
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>>30327089
If you haven't noticed already those are averages.
>>
I honestly don't think I've ever seen a single person born before 1999 say a single positive thing about garchomp.

In fact I distinctly remember before BW came out and introduced the ice cream and trash heap pokemon it was widely considered among the older generation of fans as the poster boy for bad new designs alongside stuff like rhyperior or palkia. Nothing else i've seen gets as much vitriol aside from maybe goodra
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>>30328124
Just like how half of the dex is banned in VGC right?

Next gen Z moves will be banned and you'll be saying that they've been removed too won't you.
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>>30342471
>born 95
>2nd favorite Pokemon
>>
I'm almost certain whoever designed this line designed Druddigon. They're the two ugliest Pokemon in the series.
>>
>>30342471
>Born 1991.
>It's my most favourite pokemon.
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>>30342512
>hating on Druddigon

Fucking kill yourself right now you stupid shit.
>>
>>30342270
Not to mention its only found during the post game
>>
The zero mentions just prove the most forgettable pseudo is Heatran. If he wasn't good competitively he would be Lumineon tier.
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>>30342611
Heatran is just legendary, you retard.
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>>30342471
>>30342498
>>30342541
Born in 1989, also my favorite pokemon. Got this sweater from teemmeme.com , love it
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>>30342634
Case in point: people even forget his true status
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>>30327134
Jojo reference?
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>>30342693
What point? You're trying to say that a legendary is a pseudo.
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>>30330488
>brown platinum blonde chicken with tsareena and Lycanroc
Lot of good taste in that image.
>>
>>30342393
>doesn't have the type combo most people wanted
You mean the retards here that were saying Jangmo-o will be Dragon/Steel ?
>>
>>30342471
>born in 91
I like it solely because it's one of the staples of my favorite champion. Personally prefer Tyranitar
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>>30327043
Does it learn Sandstorm tho?
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Is this the most forgettable gen they've made yet?
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Looking at what made each pseudo memorable and judging which is the least:
>Dragonite-The original and Lance's ace. Notable for having 3 of them and below the evolution level, the original hax.
>Tyranitar-Generally remembered as the Pokemon version of Godzilla. Had a memorable appearance in the Celebi movie
>Metagross-Another non-dragon pseudolegend. Unique design and notable as Steven's ace.
>Salamence-Another Dragon/Flying type, which puts it at odds with Dragonite. Might be remembered for the Jirachi movie
>Garchomp-Cynthia's ace, who's also memorable as being the first female champion. A very tough Pokemon to face in battle. Is widely regarded as the most favored modern day non-legend Dragon type.
>Hydreigon-Ghetsis's ace, who was the final boss and thus made it one of the final Pokemon you fought in the original BW story. Caught many blind players off guard with its power and coverage, leading to many a tale of this thing wiping out whole teams. Was also notable for being below the level it usually evolves, which seemed like a fond call back to Lance.
>Goodra-Kinda notable for evolving from the very popular Goomy at the time. It can also be counted as Ash's first fully evolved Dragon type. Some like the design due to the similarities to Dragonite.
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>>30342859
Pokemon-wise? Yes. Literally nothing stands out.
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>>30342859
You're trying to hard, anon.
Unless you're sarcastic
>>
>>30342859
Give it a few months and it'll drop off the radar soon.
People are saying its even worse than 6.
>>
>>30342923
Who ? This board ? You know this place doesn't make even a quarter of the fanbase.
>>
>>30342739
It's a pseudo. 600 bst
>>
>>30342984
That being only one qualifier for it.
It doesn't tick any of the others.
>>
>>30342965
This board
YouTube
Facebook
Reddit
More and more people are cropping up. Once the hype dies down there's not going to be many people who care for it.

Its basically going to be gen 4 redux.
>>
>>30343025
I've seen a lot of people on siliconera bitching about SM but they're even more insignificant than /vp/
>>
>>30343025
sure thing bud
>>
Goodra is the most infuriating, that's for sure.
Gen one gave us a dragon psuedo, which made sense because there had to be some extremely powerful monster for you to fight in the end that barely had any weaknesses and resisted your strongest mon (your starter)

gen 2 and 3 seemed to indicate that psuedos didn't have to be dragons. After three gens we had 2 psuedo dragons and 2 psuedo non-dragons

So gen 4 giving us another psuedo dragon wasn't really a big deal. But when gen 5 did it felt like it was really becoming the norm. They didn't even bother making Volcarona, the final pokemon of the champion, a psuedo.
Then gen 6 comes, and the psuedo is just a dragon. nothing more than that, it's a pure dragon with high sp.def, and now we have kommo-o
we went from 2-2 to 2-7. And with fairies being introduced they're just not as intimidating anymore.
>>
>>30343025
>thid board
Like I said, you might just consider this place irrelevant
>YT
You classic comment wars, nothing special
>Facebook
Really ? You're consisering Genwunner hive a reliable source ?
>Reddit
You have to understand what a minority is. And the sane argument can be aaid everywhere else

I'm still waiting a reliable source.
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>>30342678
definitely on getting that
probably just the shirt though
>>
>>30343144
*same
*said
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>>30342865

>Kommo-o- Walled by a bee
>>
>>30342471
I served in nam and I say it's one of the greatest.
>>
>>30343006
Your so called "qualifiers" you guys made up are bogus. I bet you had a "has atleast one immunity" requirement. Newsflash, Kommo-o has none
>>
>>30326876
Only forgettable if you're a newfag.
>>
>>30343144
So what you're saying is that only positive opinions are allowed and the game can't be criticized in the slightest.
>>
>>30326884
I'm not sure if this is a stealth pun or not...
>>
It's Metagross and Salamence for me
>>
>>30343144
>no one can criticize my game HARUMPH
Back to /v/ faggot.
>>
>>30334452
Most early dinos werent that much bigger than humans really, you see anon animals only get bigger if their bodies can make the energy tax, simple shit like insects can easily get bigger by just having more oxygen, but complex vertebrates like us need lots of meat and plant protein to get bigger thats why most of us mammals are small these days because the food supply got shorter.
>>
>>30326800
>arcanine and staraptor get closecombat but not a fighting dragon
>>
>>30343241
No one said anything about an immunity idiot.

The qualifiers are
>3 stage line
>600 bst
>1,250,000 experience at level 100

If you don't have them all you're not a pseudo
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>>30343550
Funny cause /v/ is the one that's tearing this game appart, not the other way around. Also
>calling blindless hate "criticism"
Sure.
>>
>>30342884
This is factually wrong

From the legendaries to the starters (wheter you like them or not) the Ultra Beasts, or things like Golisopod or Lycanroc, etc these Pokemon are some of the most distinctive yet.
>>
>>30343489
So what you're saying is that only negative opinions are allowed and the game can't be praised in the slightest.
>>
>>30327134
Where in the hell did you get this? There's like no animated rips out there yet.
>>
>>30343615
>calling legitimate criticism blind hate
Also you haven't been on /v/ recently have you. Its literally mirroring /vp/ at this point in time.
>>
>>30326800
it gets fucking shell smash
>>
>>30342865
Salamence>Dragonite

Just Saiyan.
>>
>>30343681
That's if you can find a legitimate positive point and not one rooted in subjectivity like say the story.
>>
>>30343719
You sure are a ball of sunshine and rainbows, aren't you ?
>>
>>30326800
>forced 8th trial
>primarina tears it a new asshole with z-moonblast
I never got to see what it did
>>
>>30343772
Similar, except I was Nuzlocking and l used a Granbull

It had Flash Cannon
>>
>>30343772
>8th trial
>primarina tears it a new asshole with regular moonblast
That was one boring trial, just moonblasted my way through.
>>
>>30342810

>covered in metallic scales
>bulletproof
>hurr if you thought it would be steel you're retarded
>>
>>30343738
Hey I'm giving you a chance here.
>>
>>30343772

>uses z moves in-game
>why is it so easy???
>>
>>30343772
>send Decidueye
>Totem summons Hakamo-O as a back up
>can't do anything because lol only Slash and some shitty fighting move as attacks
sasuga GameFreak
>>
>>30343873
>it's hard when you artificially gimp yourself
kekkus maximus
>>
>>30343873

I never use Z-Moves, and the NPCs say shit like "Wow you beat the kahuna and you didn't even use your Z-Move!". After that, nobody else says shit though.
>>
Hydreigon is definitely more forgettable.

Only Iris and the team galactic big bad had one, and for Iris it wasn't even her main Pokemon, it was Haxorus (which is even less forgettable), and then Volcarona is far more memorable as Alder's main Pokemon and being able to be caught as if it were a legendary in that one desert temple.

Honestly, one day I was thinking of all the pseudo legendaries, and I thought of gen 5 and remembered Haxorus and Volcarona actually weren't pseudo legendaries and thought "did gen 5 even have one?" and looked it up and found Hydreigon. I wish Volcarona was a pseudo legendary too because it was far cooler and more memorable than Hydreigon.
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>>30343991
Hydreingon is Gethis main.
also Hydra + Fairy eevee pairing.
>>
>>30343991
>all these niggas saying OU spammed mons are forgettable

You casuals or what

Hydreigon was face of Gen 5
>>
>>30343127

This. It really feels like they held back on some of these mons' designs. Goodra should have been Dragon/Poison. Kommo-o should have got Sludge Wave/Bomb and Close Combat.
>>
>>30343897

>choosing not to use overpowered optional shit is gimping yourself

Keep complaining about the games being easy while intentionally making it easy mode then. Your loss.
>>
>>30344019
>Hydreigon
>OU spammed
>literally one of the most bottom tier OUs
>even his smogon entry says he struggles a lot in the tier
>had way less usage than both Haxorus and Volcarona
>was only even OU because people very rarely used him on 4drag2mag since he was the best option for a special dragon aside from Lati@s

man you're one dumb nigger aren't you?
>>
>>30344081
>Less usage than Haxorus

Here's your (You)
>>
>>30343772

The Totem Kommo-o's second assist is a Scizor. I think it gets Bullet Punch for the Fairies.
>>
>>30334197
I completely forgot it had a 4x fairy weakness when i fought him.
Took him down with regular moves like a fucking idiot.
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