How would you fix her?

>>30280425
Give her some coverage moves and a little bit more speed.

>>30280425
Give her Blaze Kick.

>>30280425
Grass/Fighting. Literally nothing else.

People complain about X should be Y type all the time, but if I could make one type change out of all of them, I'd do this.

>>30280509
A-anon, t-that's asking too much...

>>30280565
Lucario can learn it, despite being weak to fire.

Buff Trop Kick to 80 or 85 BP.

Grass/Fighting or Grass/Fairy fits it thematically, but I'm not sure if the extra STAB is worth all the new weaknesses, at least in the former's case.

>>30280425
Grass/Fighting and a few more coverage moves.

Her movepool is shallow as fuck.

>>30280425
Grass/Fighting with Blaze Kick, Stomping Tantrum and Rock Slide. Grass/Fighting would be usefull especially now that Talonflame is dead.

Give her sword dance

>>30280563
This

>>30280592
That mistake will never be committed, give up.
Also, i'ts a fucking plant!

>>30280636
Why? Z Splash is better.

>>30280672
It's been long established that that's not true.

>>30280633
i was going to post exactly this holy shit

>>30280672
Swords Dance + Attack boosting Item is much better than Z Splash.

>>30280633
Way more mons should be able to learn stomping tantrum, holy fuck.
Brutal Swing too.

>>30280425
Speed or Unburden
Power Whip and Close Combat, would already look better. Also Knock Off.

>>30280727
>choice shit or Life Orb on a sweeper
Oh no, honey...

>>30280425
SWORDS DANCE
W
O
R
D
S

D
A
N
C
E

That is literally all she could ask for. Choiced sets are a meme and a waste of all that good bulk. Even if she had more moves, she'd just run Trop Kick, Play Rough, and High Jump Kick anyways. Surely there are better teammates that could be using Rock Tomb/Slide, yes?

>>30280722
>claiming to have an established meta a week after release
Hello, Smash Community. Remember when swagger was just another move?

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>>30280755
>Unburden
>When you have priority cocblocking

>Close Combat
>On a mon with a kicking theme

>>30280841
But in this case, he's exactly right. You can SD again and again, AND use something like a life orb or lefties. Give someone else that Z crystal

Make it so Bounsweet evolves into a chili pepper instead

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Give her stone edge.

>>30280841
>wasting a z move on one 3 stage boosting move
>on something that can be revenge killed in a heartbeat

>>30280879
They should've made it so that Z-status can only be used once per turn and if you switch out, you can still use it, but if you use a attacking Z-move, you can't use Z-Status anymore. Like, I use Z-Splash, my Atk goes up, but I can't use it anymore. However, If I switch and come back, I can ise it again. But if I switch into something else abd use say Subzero Slammer, I can't use any Z crystal anymore, including Z-splash. Abd Tsareena's low Speed will be what will keep it from being absolutely broken.

>>30280847
this shit can't remove a scizor not even after +2 hjk and talonflame is dead

>what are close combat hitmons
>what is bullet punch hitmonlee
>what is high jump kick hitmonchan

>>30280879
And why on earth would your opponent allow you more than one fuck up to use SD? Maybe if you are fighting infants, but in the meta you won't be able to do that shit freely, you have to make the most of every opportunity.

>>30280993
>"but you will tooootally be able to SD multiple times in the same situation!"

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>>30280425
>How would you fix her?
give her a mouth

>>30281320
She has one, it's just covered by the collar. Why would Stenee and Bounsweet have one, but Tsareena all the sudden looses it ?

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>>30281069
I never said that.
But z belly drum sounds miles better.

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>>30280509
>Blazing hot kicks

>>30280425
Give her more Speed.
That would be an actual good start.

>>30280751
>tyrantrum can't learn stomping tantrum
>Aurorus can't learn aurora veil
Fuck GF needs to quit smoking crack

Make her special attack stat more useable.

>>30282661
Mixed attaching is cancer. Look what it did to Lurantis.

>>30280425
80-90 BP Trop Kick, for starters.
Add Sleep Powder and Leech Seed to taste, because we all know that's 90% of the reason to lug around a Grass-type in the first place.

>>30282883
Lurantis' movepool fucked it more than anything and you know it. It's fucking worse than serperior

>>30282610
Translationfags can go suck a dick too because the moves still fit thematically regardless of if its their english or Nip name.

>>30282883
Can you not git gud or do you like seeing the same sets everytime?

>>30282919
Grass types with suffering movepools is what we've come to expect though, but making it a slow frail mixed attacker? Inexcusable.

>>30282919
At least move tutors are still a thing. I'm hoping they give it Superpower or just Hammer Arm, that alone would help it a lot.

>>30282938
Why would you want to sabotage Tsareena by fiddling its attack stats? 120 physical attacker is decent as, it just needed 90+ speed.

>>30282938
Mixed doesn't make it better, having a larger range of moves to give players more to choose from is good enough.

>>30280425
116 speed. Maybe the elemental punches. Give Trop Kick a horn leech effect.

>>30282938
>everything has to be a mixed attacker to 'git gud'.

>>30280633
>>30280751
What's so good about stomping tantrum? What moves are even likely to fail?

>>30283053
I think it was because of the Stomping part, though I agree, she is regal, she wouldn't be seen throwing a tantrum.

>>30283053
Play Rough and HJK all have a chance to miss, if it got Rock Slide and BK, they would also have a chance to miss. Plus it fits thematically. And Ground coverage is always welcomed.

>>30280563
I'm sorry, I don't think anything will ever top elec/dark luxray

>>30283110
If she's stomping on people, she's obviously got some issues. Plus, princesses are often depicted throwing tantrums.

>>30283209
She's a queen

>>30283209
She is a Queen, it's in the ability name, come on anon.

>>30283161
What about Luxray screams dark type? There's nothing dark about it. Nothing says that it fights dirty. I mean I guess stab crunch would be nice but literally nothing else about it says it's a dark type.

The "it looks like a dark type" never made any sense as an argument either. Gardvoir is green, does that mean it should be a grass type?

>>30280451
Fighting, flying, bug and fairy are not enough for you? That's more than more pure grass hope to get without hp fire.

She is also a ridiculous good tank spinner with the ability to pull off a z splash sweeper set.

Her impish/careful set is actually hard to take down without her landing a good hit or spinning.

There is nothing to fix, base 71 speed would be godlike, but base >70 means it can actually hit roost skarmory with HJK and that is cool.

>>30280425
Give her a mouth.

>>30283268
He gets crossroad killing aka nightslash by breeding, that's the only real hint behind dark type.

Sadly Luxray is often seen as heroic on side material and that alone kills the evil type aka dark type.

>>30280425
Give her a whip and my face to use as a chair

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>>30281362
>why

>>30283053
I think it fits more pokemon than can learn it, but if I'm thinking right, you can just force a protect fail or something and use it right after.

>>30280425
Swords Dance. Why doesn't she have swords dance?

Tsareena is already a high tier team support mon. Are sweepers all you tards ever think about?

Tsareena @ Leftovers
Ability: Queenly Majesty
EVs: 252 HP / 164 Def / 92 SpD
Careful Nature
- Aromatherapy
- Synthesis
- Rapid Spin
- Trop Kick

This is the set I'm running. Pairs so amazingly well with Toxapex it's not even funny. She tanks all the electric and ground attacks thrown at Toxapex like they are nothing, Tox takes the fire and ice attacks thrown at her. The rest of my team loves having the aromatherapy support since scald is fucking everywhere.

>>30282893
Best post.

>>30280727
>>30280672
Is there a move that gives +2 or 3 speed that it can learn? Because it needs that more than the extra attack. 120 is fine enough unboosted even and it still has swords dance.

>>30283872
uh... acupressure if you get lucky?

>>30283796
well theres z-splash

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>>30284119
>she can learn that
Huh, cool.

>>30283867
As a support mon it'd really benefit from a fairy typing honestly, dragon immunity and only one additional weakness to steel, and you don't want it staying in on sludge waves anyway so the 4x weakness not a big deal

>>30280425
>Has almost three times as much attack as sp. attack
>Only learns 3 physical grass moves

Fucking hell. Give me Power Whip or leaf blade at least. Trop Kick sucks.

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>>30280425
>Fix Grass -type

>>30284322
with how this thing looks power whip would make so much sense

>>30280625
>Grass/Fighting
>n-not like being 4x weak to flying, gaining a psychic and fairy would make it bad or anything r-r-right guise?

>>30280425
>Grass/Fighting or Grass/Fairy
>10-15 more BP added to Trop Kick
>Sweet Veil replaced with an Iron Fist for kicking moves
>Maybe a little more stat allocation into Speed

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>>30283867
>rapid spin
>u turn
>72/98/98 with screens, aromatherapy, synthesis, and trop kick
>low sweep with queenly majesty
4 moveslots is a bitch sometimes.

>>30283161
Water/Psychic Psyduck and Golduck. Their pokedex entries all talk about their psychic powers.

>>30280425
>Grass/Fighting
>new stats spread: 72/120/78/50/78/112
>Trop Kick buffed to 80 BP
Trop Kick and HJK as stabs are good enough offensively, but she got U-Turn and a few interesting support moves that now are actually useful thank to the improved speed

>>30280425
Why would I want to fix her when I want to breed with her?

>>30283150
Outside of Steel, which HJK covers, what good would a move that 90% of the time you wouldn't be able to use to its full extent do that the rest of her set doesn't?

What are the best movesets for ada waifus?

>>30280625
As far as movepools for a pure Grass type, Tsareena's actually isn't half bad.

>>30289154
*Play Rough and HJK are defent coverage for a Grass type.

>>30280425
remove the diapers

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>>30280425
Add a few more kicking-based moves to her movepool and give her a boost of speed. Other than that, she's perfect

>>30281362
raichu loses the fingers it had as a pichu and pikachu

>>30280563

This, I feel like it was something that was planned from the getgo and then cut at the last second because one of the designers didn't want her to be too good.

>>30280425
Make her not mono-Grass

>>30280425
what is a good nature for this plant?

>>30291439
Anything that shits on Sp. Atk.

>>30291439
Dominant

>>30291439
Adamant

>>30291439
Naughty

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>>30290800
Yet Alolan Raichu still keeps them. Just that now they look like a piece of butter.