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How pathetic do you have to be to have 570 BST and still be a shitmon?

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How pathetic do you have to be to have 570 BST and still be a shitmon?
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You leave Hungry Hombre alone
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I dunno, ask Kyurem-B.
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>>30254205
Articuno has 580 and it's even worse off
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In fairness everyone is judging him on singles.

He'll likely do a lot better in doubles.
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>>30254271
>Kyurem-B
>a shitmon
Choose one.
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The fuck is this Homestuck shit doing in my Pokemon game
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>>30254205
articuno
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>>30254205
>over 700 bst
>only barely ubers

As always zygarde is the epitome of cucks
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>>30254442
Doubles seems good. Being able to plow with Draco Meteor, defend with Protect, cover Fairy with Belch, and deal decent STAB with Dark Pulse seems very good.
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>>30254442
What do you reckon would work?
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>>30254205
What's the issue? He's plenty good for me.
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he hard counters clefable cant be that bad
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>>30254455
>too good for OU
>not good enough for Ubers
>not a shitmon
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>>30254786
Kyurem-B isn't too good for OU Einstein that's why he's fucking in OU.
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>>30254872
Riiiight. I bet you were fine with Genesect being in OU too.
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>>30254205
>Flabebe used fairy wind
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>>30254205
>670 BST
>Not even used in PU
Regigigas is the prime example.
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>>30254989
>Guzzlord's partner Crobat used Cross Poison!
>Flabebe fainted!
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>>30254989
>tank
>Guzzlord ate its Sitrus Berry!
>Guzzlord used Belch!
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>>30255085
>Flabebe held on with its Focus Sash!
>Crobat was hurt the hail
>Crobat fainted
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With a Modest or Adamant nature, 252 SpD EVs, and an Assault Vest his defensive statline at level 100 and perfect IVs becomes:

556 HP / 111 Def / 308 SpD


In comparison, 0HP 252+ Def 252 SpD Eviolite Chansey's defensive statline is:

610 HP / 179 Def / 509 SpD


On top of that, Guzzlord has excellent dragon type resists (and dark type psychic immunity) to lean on, while Chansey only has its ghost immunity. He doesn't have recovery like Chansey does, and clearly his stats aren't quite Chansey tier, but what he does have is a great and varied offensive movepool and very respectable attacking stats.

I don't think he's a shitmon. He probably won't make the cut to OU, but in UU he'll be a monster.
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>>30256774
He'll be BL or lower OU.

He has trouble surviving in OU right now because of all the Tapu and Pheromosa spam but some dude is going to build a stall squad with him on it and he'll get a huge boost in usage, guarantee it.
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>>30254560
quickban is only barely, you sure got it chief

and mega fug is "only barely" AG
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Nah the real joke is Hoopa.
680 BST in RU
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>>30257146
woops my mistake Hoopa-confined is in RU at BST 600
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>>30254560
Not as bad Kyurem-B, only 8 less BST and he's STILL OU.
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>>30257550
Kyurem regular is a 680 BST pokemon who fell to RU last gen. They had to ban him out.

At the end of the gen, Kyurem was not UU by usage, just by getting kicked out of RU.
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>>30254481
Explain.
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>>30254442
>He'll likely do a lot better in doubles.
>He'll likely do a lot better in In Tapus the meta
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>30258212
Gonna guess he meant this thing cause they both have crowns and the same claws and theyre black but besides that there's not really much they have in common.
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Leave Gadunka alone
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>>30255085
>doubles
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>>30258415
>not playing a format with twice the amount of viable pokemon

not to mention that battles are fast as fuck and you dont have to spend 20 minutes slowly losing to a stall team
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>>30258467
>defending doubles
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I want to point that while yes he has a 4x weakness to Fairy he does get both Poison Jab and Sludge Wave, so regardless of whether you're running him as physical or special he can do quite a number on a predicted Fairy switch-in. 101 Atk / 97 SpA fully invested still hits quite hard, even with non-STAB and no LO/CB.
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>>30258415
>singles
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>>30258502
You're forgetting Belch.
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>>30258554
Did I mention it? :^)
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>>30258601
>rotation battles
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>>30254205
they dould have put its offences stats into defense and made it a stallmon
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>>30258601
Triples and Rotation aren't even available, sadly. There's Royals, I guess.
Why the fuck did they call them "Royal" instead of "Royale"
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>>30258680
what's that?
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>>30258556
Sure, he does have Belch too. But I don't see him running Substitute much and outside of builds with Substitue I personally really dislike Belch as you can't reliably trigger your berry to enable the move.
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>>30258556
He has enough bulk to run a Sitrus Berry and Belch on the inevitable Fairy switch in.
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>>30259257
meant for>>30259162
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It's nowhere near as terrible as Articuno and non-Steel Regis, but I'd be hesitant to put it above Mesprit - the next shit legendary in line. I'm not even sure if it's better than Druddigon in RU, which has legitimate utility in moves like Stealth Rock and Glare plus immediately useful Rough Skin + Rocky Helmet. An equivalent physically defensive RestTalk Guzzlord has 20% more physical and 50% more special bulk, but is passive as fuck, still loses to anything with supereffective STAB attacks despite seemingly large bulk, relies on teammates to set hazards for it and doesn't even deal that much damage with Dragon Tail. That being said, it takes neutral hits pretty well (Drapion does less than 50% with +2 Poison Jab, to give you an idea), so I wouldn't dismiss it outright.
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>>30254205
>carbink used Guard Split
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>>30254442
>Doubles/VGC
>The place where LITERALLY every player has a Tapu, if not 2

Unless your name is Garchomp, no dragon has a chance right now
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