It could have been good.

The design is great
Too bad about every other aspect

The only thing bad about it is the movepool.

They put more effort into animating it than balancing it

it sucks? FUCK ME! did they do anything right this gen!?

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>>30236774
>that death animation

throws its melon on the ground and slips and falls over it

>>30236787
Lillie

>>30236787
nah, it's useable, not an ou staple but, on certain doubles teams it'll be fine, singlues uu

100/90/60 is good physical bulk and the 120 att is no joke. sadly, doesn't have the speed to compete in ou unless scarfed

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>all these doubles-exclusive gimmicks
I wish I understood how to play doubles

>>30236879
What really cripples in my opinion is its lack of fighting moves. The strongest fighting move it can learn is close combat but that cripples it's defences.

>>30236687
>The other doubles monkey is actually seeing high-tier play in VGC

lmao, stupid rugby monkey

>>30236900
protect, trick room, earthquake, primal groudon, primal kyogre, mega rayray

same thing for smogon minus the last three there

those shit water absorb duos that come around every now and then are gonna ruin the meta. WHY DID THEY BUFF MANTINE

>>30236687
I know. Instead I have to see that fucking other monkey with the palm leaves every VGC match

>>30236950
>trick room
>primal groudon, primal kyogre, mega rayray
hang on let me rephrase

"I wish I liked doubles"

>>30236687
>decent bulk
>120 attack
>great movepool aside from the lack of knock off
>defiant
it's not bad by any means, problem is most pure fighting types are garbage unless you're over the top like conkeldurr

>>30237008
>great movepool
No

>>30236900
>HA is unavailable

Not fair.

>giving it all those ball moves it can't even use due to shit sp Attk

NOT FUCKING FAIR.

>>30237030
>close combat
>rock slide
>EQ
>u-turn
>taunt
>iron head
like i said the only thing it's lacking is a dark move, but you can use payback since it's slow

>>30237056
it's available, dunno what you're talking about

>>30237008
>defiant
can you even get it? it's a hidden ability and passimian doesn't call for other pokemon when you fight him

>>30237096
Why would you use Close Combat though? That fucks it's bulk.

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>>30236687
>Does not learn any physical Grass moves
Why is this allowed?

>>30237118
To beat the shit out of things, what else?

Sounds like he'd be a fun gimmick in doubles at least.

>Pure Power on base 120 attack

>>30237106
yes they do, mine called for 5 when i was trying to catch her

>>30237118
it doesn't have enough bulk to survive two hits unless they're resisted or you're invested in HP

>>30237096
How is it available? You can't SOS chain them?

>>30237166
>mine called for 5

I am calling bullshit on this. I tried getting Defiant off my forst encounter, only to discover they just call Trumbeaks without cease simlly to piss you off. I must have killed 30 of the fuckers before I just gave up.

>>30236687
whats the deal with all the pokemon (even the good ones stats/type wise) having shitty movepools
GF anyone that's going to buy the gen 4 remakes its already going to buy it, no need to block all the moves behind those tutors just to be sure people buys it

>>30237176
>>30237225
i distinctly remember getting gangraped by rugby monkeys while i was trying to catch one

and i was mad because it took me a solid 20 minutes to find it

>>30237234
Used all the budget on the story, couldn't afford to make good movepools.
Same thing happened in gen 5.

>>30237268
You're remembering wrong because I spent 5 hours catching them and all they call are those dumb birds.

>>30237297
>>30237234
>BW almost no good move tutors
>BW2 with move tutors
>XY no move tutors
>ORAS move tutors
>SM no move tutors
>gen 4 remakes/stars move tutors
I'm seeing a jewing pattern than I should have see before to ensure competitivefags buys at least one of those to not lose access to moves

>>30236913
That's why you shall allow Contrary pokemon be killed.

>>30237118
>why use a 120 BP 100% Accuracy STAB move that barely has a drawback

what's wrong with you?

He's good for porn

>>30236838
He's setting up the ball for the dummy half, anon.

>>30237696
do I look like I know what a rugby is?

>>30237730
And now you do, cunt. The more you know.

>>30236687

What did GF think by making these new mons slow as shit, save for like one or two (not counting legends).

>>30237852
80 speed isn't terrible, especially for a bulky ass pokemon like passimian

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>>30237859
>bulky ass

>>30237990
it's a chunky fuckin monkey senpai

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How do I get defiant?