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So, let me get this straight...
GameFreak doesn't want any ships in the games, yet they implies lot of stuff, like they're taunting us.
Am I right?
Picture highly related
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>holding hands
>before marriage
all this implies is that Lillie is a disgusting whore
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>>30220285
>Lillie
>holding hands with a guy
Lillie is canon with Chicken-chan
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Teasing is always more profitable than outright confirmation.
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>shipping
Kys

You people destroyed any sense of anime discussion
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>shipping with the boy
>the boy at all

Zzz...........................
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>>30220459
this
and gamefreak definitely knows how to rake in the cash
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>>30220285
Correct. Masuda has stated before in interviews that while they want to implement more romance, they NEVER want it, or the human characters in general, to become the focus. The focus is and should always be on the Pokemon themselves, or else it's just not fucking Pokemon.

Teases and implied subtext should be enough for shipperfags. Also, canon "forced" romances are not exactly all that well-received by the playerbase, especially Japanese ones.
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>>30220285
Lillie overstayed her welcome
They should have had multiple tongue and cheek date options like the Ferris Wheel in BW/BW2
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>>30220413
>>30220532
We get it, your yurifags. Get out if you can't handle other povs.
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I like her and Luna as friends better. Not even a yurifag, just think it's cute. Two people can be close with being romantically interested in each other.
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>implying Moon isn't the canon protagonist
>implying this isn't a stealth yuri game in a communist society
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>>30221141
>implying GF is smart enough to do that without fucking it up
>implying Pokemon fans want yuri shit in their poaching simulator.
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I am 80% certain Hapu is gay.
Which ship is the best fit for her?
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>>30220582
Ironic considering Lillie herself felt like the main focus of this game.
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I played as the female MC and it seemed like they were hinting some feelings between her and Illima in the post game battle.
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>>30220582
If the girl they're being forced with isn't shit, then I don't think they'd be mad.
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>>30220680
What about this ship triggers you so much?
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>>30221632
Yurifags shoving it down our throats constantly

Also so much fanart/fics of Moon/Lillie and so little Sun/Lillie
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>>30221899
Honestly there is rarely a lot of fanart/fics of the male protags with anybody, unless it's yaoi. It's generally female protag oriented.
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>>30221899
>sunfags constantly makes threads about their inferior ship

works both ways fagtron
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>>30221632
>Not the brown chicken chan

It's so much better with the color contrast.
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>>30221632
I'm fine with shippers doing their own shit.
but the Moon(or cock-chan) x Lillie ship is being shiposted to the point of aggravation.
It's like that one Game of Thrones bitch being posted on every "atheist" thread over on /b/.
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>>30221899
Japan generally draws more of cute girls than shotas unless something gay is involved.

Look at Hilda and Hilbert, those got paired together all the fucking time. I'm sure that if you show a little patience more art will eventually pop up, artists are extremely prolific with anything related to Pokemon.
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>>30221971
>inferior ship
subjective opinion
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>>30222070
This. Chicken-chan and Lillie are cute but the amount of times this shit is forced down everyone's throats is getting old real fast.
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>>30222202
I think people keep doing it because Sun and Lilliefags get so triggered by it.
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>>30222404
I don't personally care, it's more Lillie to look at in the end.
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>>30222404
At this point its more tiresome than anything.

Also
>>30222434
This.
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The reason there won't be that much Boy/Lillie is because Japan is going to use Ash instead and self insert through him.
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>>30222404
>people only posting a ship because it pisses other people off
That there's a sad display...
>>30222487
pretty much, yeah.
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>>30220582
>>30221540
I was just about to say the same thing.
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>>30222544
Oh god that's even worse.

I kinda hate trAsh
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>>30222404
Is that also why they keep doing that "Chicken-chan is CUTE" thing? Because that annoys me too and has nothing to do with Sun or Lillie. You can't deny that it's forcibly repeated.
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>>30222544
>self-inserting as Ash
I feel sorry for them desu
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>>30222719
I think that's more of a meme or waifufagging rather than
>gonna post Chicken/Lillie and see how many people I trigger in a minute
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>>30222719
Serena and Lana were also cute but nobody's spamming that all over the fuckin place.
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>>30222487

Wouldn't the best course of action be ignoring the shipping posts you hate?
They only aggrivate you because you allow them to.
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>>30222825
You see Lana posts every now and then, actually. But yeah it's not as common as Chickenposting.
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>>30220413
>Thinking any yuri ship is canon

I like yuri as well man but there sure as hell ain't any canon /u/ pairings in Pokemon
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>>30220780
And I picture Hau and Sun as broskis. Lillie/Moon would be like a sam/frodo thing
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Me X Olivia
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>>30222826
I would love to, but they're everywhere. EVERYWHERE. Like in this thread, the third post was yurifagging. Or in that one Hau thread a few hours back, same thing.

You just can't escape them
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>>30222927
No, anon.

Olivia can never score.
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They could go as far as pokespe goes, with characters admiting their love but never really acting on it

pic unrelated, pic related would be BW or RS
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>>30222982
That only works because it's not Gamefreak making it.
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>>30222937
the fact that you can't escape it is what makes it fucking annoying.
I looked around on other sites and yep, yurifagging was there too, albiet to a lesser extent.
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>>30222979
I can show her how!
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>>30221431
Mina of course.

>>30222544
That is the pathetic thing ever. It's like they don't realize the function of a mute player character whom you can even name.
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>>30223005
Have you SEEN A3? The majority of the Lillie fics over there is Moon/Lillie and there is only one Sun/Lillie fic... Wich is just a slightly edited version of a yuri one.

Thankfully, I'm pretty sure that this'll lead to quality over quantity
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>>30220285
>Masuda said that they wants ships in the game, but don't want to focus too much on them
>Ohmori says fuck that and makes the whole plot resolve around Sun and Lillie
Truly based.
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>>30223210
>A3
>fanfiction
kek, have you ever actually looked through anything regarding fanfiction? It's ALL gayshit regardless of what happens in the stories.
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>>30223023
I would like there to be stories where she is about to score, but something keeps happening to derail it

like my one anecdote about when I almost got to have sex and went to put on the condom, it was one of those free ones the college gives out. It was off brand, had asian writing all over it and I guess it was an extra small or maybe just standard asian size
as I was putting it on it got caught behind the head of my penis and I couldn't roll it down any further, and then I coudn't get it back off because it was stuck, so the girl tried to help me and started pulling and accidentally snapped it back like a rubber band

I didn't score
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>>30223276
Eh, it's always the same garbage, but I like it. I may have a problem
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>>30223385
Fucking kek
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>>30223234
>Masuda didn't want gay romance
>Ohmori made both Chicken-chan and Lillie gay
Truly based.
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>>30223562
>>30223529
rip bianca/hilbert
n/hilda/hilbert eclipsed it
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>>30222982
The BW situation has lasted too long, resolution WHEN?
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Best ship is tge most tragic one.
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>>30223756
Digital chapters every Monday afternoon as bong.
https://www.sunday-webry.com/comics/pokemon_sp_b2w2/
>>30223795
>implying R/S wasn't better
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I don't like how everyone is assuming we'll only get "ship teases". Masuda said romance won't be the focus, but that doesn't mean there will be no canon pairing. He just meant they won't go down the Fire Emblem route.
Just look at Brendan/May. They go on an official date. Or Sun/Lillie. The only thing Lillie didn't say was "Let's fug".
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>>30220285
Kill yourself.
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>>30223968
Hilariously enough ORAS Brenden/May is less popular than Steven/May despite the >date.

But then PokeSpe blows it all out of the water.
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>>30223966
I heard is one chapter every two weeks.
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>>30224125
If that's the case then fuck life, but at least it isn't monthly.
I can live with it.
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What Guzma ship do you run?
I was thinking Guzma x Golf Girl, but I like Guzmeria a lot.
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>tfw sun will disappear like Black/White protag in sequel
>tfw lillie and sun will never reunite
>tfw the only closure we will get is lillie promising to find sun and nebby one day
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>>30224021
Nah, people only post the few images of Steven/May over and over again on /vp/. I see way more Brendan/May on almost every site I visit.
If looking at ORAS May, she has less than 1 page worth of images with Steven on Gelbooru, whereas Brendan/May has 3 pages.
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>>30224339
I refuse to accept this headcannon. GF will implement an old save bonus feature where you can reunite Sun and Lillie.
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>>30224339
>tfw sun will disappear like Black/White protag in sequel
Why? He's the first Champion of his region, the region he just moved in. He has no reason to leave. Hilbert had a reason to travel.
While we may not directly get to see this happen, Lillie and Sun will live happily ever after with Nebby.
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What if, and it's just a what if, Lillie encounter Team Rocket in Kanto, gets involved with them and is killed.
How would this affect the story? Sun, Hau, Gladion and Nebby will go full berserk mode? GF HQ burned down by nips?
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>>30224607
Considering that Sun is already a sociopath 'cause of his unchanging expression, it's safe to assume that Team Rocket will blast off in the most gory fashion imaginable.
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>>30224509
>anabel falling out of a UB wormhole
>looker losing his coworker to a UB wormhole

mate, sun is definitely going to get lost in the UB dimension. I am 100% certain if the next game is a sequel they're going to say the "first champion of alola" mysteriously disappeared one day and they don't know where he is
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>>30224706
He has Nebby, who can travel to and from Ultra Space at will.
Yeah, he's pretty OP, even by protagonist standards.
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Thought of this after I saw the two dancing during the festival at the end of the game.

What do you guys think of Hau and Acerola?
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>>30224706
>doing this 4 times now
I'm sick of it.
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>>30224749
>4 times
>Red is still in the region, just not the Champion
>Ethan presumably still there
>Brendan presumably still there
>Lucas presumably still there
>Hilbert never became the Champion
>Nate presumably still there
>Calem presumably still there
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>>30220582
I mean Pokemon is an RPG right? And RPGs are all about choices. They could just let us choose weather we want to be in a relationship with a character or not. Then everyone's happy.
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>>30224706
If Stars was an edgy sequel:
>takes place 4 years after SM
>2 years before Stars, there was a mysterious dramatic event with the Ultra Beasts. MC, the returning now badass trainer Lillie go to stop it with the help of Nebby and the Tapus.
>the danger is too big, Nebby and MC sacrifice themselves to save Lillie: they close the Wormhole with them inside and throw Lillie back to Earth
>Lillie is the Alola Champion but she is also looking for a way to save MC
>in the game, they finally discover that Mohn was in PokePelago, this gives Lillie hope that she will one day reunite with MC and leaves on a journey to find her
Then she makes random cameo appearances in later games searching for appearances of UB Wormholes through the world.
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>>30224832
>the danger is too big, Nebby and MC sacrifice themselves to save Lillie: they close the Wormhole with them inside and throw Lillie back to Earth
Can't Nebby just open the Wormhole again? He is an Ultra Beast, right?
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>>30224884
You're right, but if they wanted they could find a contrived reason to nerf Nebby's powers.
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>>30224400
Even pixiv? I'd say twitter but that place is cancer to look through even with moonrunes
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Lillie and MC (Yes, MC, not ""Sun"") will not reunite. GF will never canonize a protagonist that isn't Red and risk alienating their audience who chose the other one.
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>>30220582
the focus on the pokemon is shallow as fuck and always has been, sounds like an excuse to be shit writers and scenario designers
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>>30224218
guzmeria is pure
she was worried about him when he disappeared with lusamine
you know shes slightly tsundere for him
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>>30222927
this is my headcanon

forget Lillie, sun is growing up to make that cake happy
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>Chicken-chan gets paired with Lillie more than he does
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>>30225956
>Yurifags
>Japan

There's your reason unfortunately.
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>>30225358
>alienating people that liked Leaf or Kris

They prefer the male protags, anyway
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>>30222927
>single
>has a rare vibrating stufful toy in room
>looking for a man who can cook for her
what did they mean by this?
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>>30226473
They're secretly making a perfect waifu for Brock to appeal to nostalgiafags in Stars.
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>>30224829
Well, Pokemon is an RPG where the monsters are the most important part
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>>30225358
I'm surprised Gamefreak doesn't make more use of the memory link. That thing definitely helps deal with the potential problem of alienating fans.
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>>30224832
>postgame is traveling to the UB world with [insert legendary here] and you have a battle (similar to the battle with Red) with a UB possessed Sun/Moon
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Hau and Ilima.
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>>30225956
She's called Lily. What do you expect?
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>>30226551
>the battle is tough as nails as they have many comp-viable lv. 60 alolan mons.
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>>30224822
Referring to manga, why else would I reply to a post about protagonist going missing?
>Yellow has red frozen for most of it
>FRLG pretrified Gen 1 guys until Emerald
>Black is still stuck in stone until BW2 resolves that
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>>30222927
>Olivia
>Lana
>Mallow
>Golf Girl
>Threesome with Kiawe and Hiker David

Lillie can have her yuri, Sun has way better options.
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>>30225215
Yep, even Pixiv shows that Brendan/May is a lot more popular than Steven/May.
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>>30225797
Then why don't they hang out anymore, anon?
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>>30228347
Good. Steven is shit.
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Yurifags are always shitting on this ship but they can't see that realistically, it has a lot more chances to happen than Chicken/Lillie.
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>>30222434
pedo
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>>30231169
I'd wait for her to grow up anon, she's cute now but 10/10 at 18.
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>>30231270
she's already 10/10 now and will lose her appeal by that age, t b h
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>>30231341
I never said she wasn't.

I'd still be by her side tbqh.
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>>30231270
Hearsay.
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>all alone with a boy on an adventure climbing mountains and shit
>wears a super short mini-skirt that would reveal her pantsu at the smallest whiff of wind
What did she mean by this?
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>>30231396
I want to cuddle with Lillie and make her feel safe.

:(
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>>30231419
I'm a man with plenty of patience, anon.
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>>30231450
she's already fucking kukui, so nothing
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>>30231483
oh, me too, but what i'm saying is that she's in her prime right now :3
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>>30231079
OTP
T
P
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>>30231553
THIS
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>>30221899
Hey fuck you.
You go to any fandom and MxM/FxM outnumbers FxF by like 2 to 1.
Let us have some nice things
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>>30231666
Stop.
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>>30231666
threesome?
little lillie seems like she'd like that :3
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>>30231666
Fuck off satan
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>>30231626
>>30231553
>>30231079
Pretty much this. Sun/Lillie and Chicken-chan/Gladion seem like the most probable pairings given GF's aversion to developing non-straight relationships. They were just too lazy to implement dialogue changes depending on your gender. Remember Ilima's romantic as fuck sidequest? It feels to me like they were considering doing different dialogue, but later just gave up.
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>>30232580
Either that or the translation team made changes. The original Japanese text might be more romantic or suggestive.
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>>30231666
Not when you keep denying other pairings in favor of your delusional one, Satan.
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>>30232644
It would explain the massive following Chicken/Gladion has in moonland.
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>>30232741
Nah, Japan just loves their fuccbois.
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>>30225956
SunxLillie pics are seem to be increasing though. I think most artists either play the game as female because mah dress up game or they like drawing cute girls more than a guy.
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>>30232753
On twitter they're specifically saying they love this ship a lot though.
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>>30231666
>You go to any fandom and MxM/FxM outnumbers FxF by like 2 to 1.
RWBY.
LL
Now fuck off.
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>>30232856
Cute.
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Oh gawd. Translation:
>Fwaaah... Lillie... Lillie...
>Oh... this is a girl's scent... Amazing...
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>>30231666
It doesn't excuse you from bashing people who simply play the game as their own gender, without any provocation at all.
In short we hate you because your repetitive rudeness, not because we hate yuri.
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>>30232942
Sorry m8, but this one isn't as good as with Chicken-chan.
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>>30232882
You named two fucking things with a large female cast.
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>>30232741
Nips finally showing some taste
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>>30231666
There's no problem with yuri when people just like it quietly and know that it's unlikely in these types of games, but when you force characters to be fags when clearly not? That's when the problem arises.

Chicken-chan and Lillie will never be gay, like it or not. You can like the pair, but don't be delusional about it.
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>>30232856
What about Lillie/Sun in general?
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>>30232996
Nigga you didn't specify.
Avatar Korra then.
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>>30233038
>Chicken-chan and Lillie will never be gay, like it or not.
The game pushes LilliexMC regardless of gender.
LilliexFemale is just as valid as LilliexMale.
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>>30233055
>Sun/Lillie
From what I've seen, they like the ship a lot and think that it's adorable as fuck. They also think that the game itself was written for the male character specifically, and that Lillie is the main 'heroine'. Which is why they like Chicken-chan with Gladion since they seem to think of him as Lillie's male equivalent if you picked the girl.
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My personal favourite ship.
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>>30233072
You can name as many examples as you want but F/F will always be outnumbered in general
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>>30233096
Not really, since the game was written with the male MC in mind. Remember when you stepped in to save Lillie and Cosmog from being harassed by that Skull grunt in Tapu Village? The dialogue from the grunt reinforced this when he said that you were "always stepping in to save the girl" which wouldn't make sense if you were a girl yourself.

Only a few things were made with the female character in mind, which were outfits, some battle poses, Ilima's date sidequest, and other things that aren't in the main story. The game wasn't written for the female character at all.
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>>30233096
>he doesn't know about the cutscene only with the male MC
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>>30233266
Aren't these games really popular with women in Japan because of all the cute Pokemon? Kinda weird that they'd write the game with the boy as the canon protagonist.
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>>30233266
>The dialogue from the grunt reinforced this when he said that you were "always stepping in to save the girl" which wouldn't make sense if you were a girl yourself.
It makes plenty sense.
The MC saves Lillie, female or male.

It only seems like certain things were meant to be gender specific because you are biased.
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>>30233038
Let's put it this way, champ: Lillie and Chicken-chan has an exactly equal chance of being canon as Lillie and Sun.
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>>30233355
Why would he say "to save the girl" if you were a girl yourself though? That would seem awkward as fuck for the girl doing the saving. If it was meant for both he most likely would've said "to save your friend" or something like that, not "the girl".
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>>30233445
Lillie is the type of girl that usually needs saving, though. And 'saving the girl' is always a trope.
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>>30233433
That is to say, a 0% chance of being canon for either.
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>>30232942
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>>30233471
Exactly. So people preaching against yurifags about Lillie and Sun being a possibility or more of the intention are delusional.
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>>30233495
I thought people were preaching against Lillie/Chicken because chicken-chanfags are annoying cunts.
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>>30233326
>it's kinda weird that a video game targeted at kids with a market audience consisting of mostly males has the boy as the canon protagonist
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>>30233355
I played as Chicken and definitely got the impression that line was written for the male MC. The knight in shining armor coming to save the girl is almost exclusively a male thing.

Throughout the game I was imagining Chicken-chan as a cool tomboyish type who would probably grow up to be a lesbian because of the writing's masculine slant for the MC and I was fine with that
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>>30233511
That's valid, but the argument that Lillie and Sun is more canon as a counterpoint is fucking stupid.
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>>30233495
t. yurifag
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>>30233560
In nipland it has a huge following of adult women
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>>30233467
Yes, 'saving the girl' is always a common trope for guys, not girls. Not to mention that Chicken-chan in no way looks like a strong girl herself, in fact, you can make her look even more delicate than Lillie.

There's no denying that the entire story was written with the male character in mind.
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>>30233620
Get over it. Your boy will never get with Lillie just like the girl never will. None is more likely than the other.
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>>30233626
considering most of the writers were male and most people wouldn't mind thinking of themselves in a relationship with an 11 year old girl, correct
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>>30233622
Who cares? they're neither the majority nor the target market.
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>>30233657
i don't really care though? none of it is canon. also, see >>30233626
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>>30233716
>I don't care
>But let me present the stupid argument to you again
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>>30233664
kill yourself pedo
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>>30233613
You're forgetting that these are 'relationships' in a CHILDREN'S video game. If there's implied romance, it will ALWAYS be straight. You could have had a point if this wasn't a kid's game, but that's not the case here.

So while you're right that none of them are canon, if one of them was to be made canon, it would be Sun/Lillie not Chicken/Lillie.
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>>30220413
Lillie is canon with either protag.
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>>30220285
How is that Lillie? What happened to her hat?
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>>30233814
And yet, the same "implied romance" is there if you play a girl. No dialogue is changed. Just stop trying.
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>>30233577
>>30233445
Yes he would say "to save the girl" if you were saving a girl. Because Female MC is the same character as Male MC, and the MC frequently saves Lillie.

This idea that it was meant for the male is just your shitty headcanon
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>>30233834
Beat the game and come back.
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>>30233791
>he's still in denial
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>>30233179
But not in Korra. And RWBY is still valid because it still has a sizable male cast (and even has several hetero pairs be pushed)
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>>30233784
not my argument, just pointing you to a reply since you can't read

>>30233835
>>30233814
they obviously want the romance to be implied but want to focus on the pokemon. as other replies have said
japan literally is not progressive and doesn't even recognize same-sex marriages or relationships
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>>30233834
Spoilers.
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>>30233814
>You're forgetting that these are 'relationships' in a CHILDREN'S video game. If there's implied romance, it will ALWAYS be straight. You could have had a point if this wasn't a kid's game, but that's not the case here.

There have been implied homosexual relationships in kids cartoons for years.
And nowadays, you can have actual canon gay characters in kids shows.
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>>30233925
Japan also loves when little girl relationships have lesbian undertones, if we're going in that direction.

You "don't care" and yet you still try to argue that Lillie and Sun is more canon. It's okay to admit it bothers you that it's equally likely for both protags despite your excuses. You wouldn't be alone.
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>>30233968
Not Japanese ones.
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>>30233925
Why does such a conservative nation produce so much yaoi and yuri material? I've always wondered that.
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>>30233814
>You're forgetting that these are 'relationships' in a CHILDREN'S video game
Do you know what year it is?
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>>30233835
No dialogue is changed because there is no implied romance. There was with Shauna, and that's why they changed it if you were a girl. They would've done the same thing here if Lillie implied romantic interest in you.

>>30233846
It's rare to word it that way if a girl's saving another girl. And you just contradicted yourself completely in your post. The female MC is the same character as the male MC because it wasn't written from a girl's point of view.
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>>30233968
Not him, but I seriously doubt Gamefreak would make a yuri romance if they decided to make a canon romance.

Fuck, even in the Western translation of XY that tranny Beauty got her medical science comment removed.
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>>30225797
sauce
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>>30233990

random anon chiming in

why do you care so much holy shit

i don't hate yuri, but i hate yurifags
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>>30233997
the people writing the yaoi and yuri aren't the ones running the country
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>>30233994
Anime has implied yuri all the fucking time, especially with younger girl characters.
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>>30233997
They don't take it seriously so there's a clear disconnection between reality and fiction.
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>>30234007
Do you know what country makes these games?
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>>30234013
>The female MC is the same character as the male MC because it wasn't written from a girl's point of view.
The MC was written completely neutral.
That's why the dialogue does not change.
Default maleness is just your bias view.
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>>30234033
in english
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>>30234030
Because I like watching you all scramble in your anger at Chicken chan and Lillie being as canon as Sun and Lillie aka not at all. You always talk yourselves into corners and then pretend you're objective.
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Lillie is a disgusting whore like her mom.
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>>30233997
It's masturbatory. The fags aren't the ones actually generating the material and it's pretty much just self-indulgence.

You know, the CUTE! CUTE! crowd and the girls who like seeing gay stuff.
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>>30234013
>There was with Shauna, and that's why they changed it if you were a girl.
Huh, I had no idea the lines were different. The fireworks scene seemed pretty gay to me when I was playing as Serena.
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>>30233997
Forget yaoi/yuri, what about lolicon, softcore porn featuring actual kids right next to adult DVDs, and other stuff like that?

Postware infantilism. Look at the superflat art movement, high art vs. low art, manga vs. gekiga vs. pornographic/seinen(成年, not 青年) comics, themes like that.
This book may interest you if you want to look at it from an artistic perspective: https://www.amazon.com/Little-Boy-Japan%C2%92s-Exploding-Subculture/dp/0300102852

pic related, from an academic paper i read recently
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>>30234013
>No implied romance with Lillie

Anon, they knew what they were doing. Come on now.
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>>30234077
Pokemon games have always been written with the male protag in mind. The female protags only get a few things for them like in B/W, B2W2, and ORAS.
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>>30234120
>The fags aren't the ones actually generating the material and it's pretty much just self-indulgence.

Sometimes they are.
A lot of yuri is written by women, for women.
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>>30234053
i thought that was howl
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>>30234214
All right then, I'm just talking out of my ass.
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>>30234209
>Pokemon games have always been written with the male protag in mind.
No they haven't.
Your headcanon is worthless
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Can I ship Sun with Hau or is that not allowed?
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>>30234152
Masuda stated in an interview that Shauna was expressing romantic interest in the male player and friendship with the female player.
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>>30234237
>RGBY
>GS
>Coliseum
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>>30234237
Alright, prove that they aren't then. I already gave more than enough proof with that grunt's line which you're still conveniently ignoring.
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>>30234162
Thanks, I'll check that out.
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So does anyone know if there are differences between the genders in the Japanese text?
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>>30234238
Hau likes Lillie. Gladion's a better option for Sun if you're going for the gay route.
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>>30220285
Shit art. Lillie is taller than protag
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>>30234287
>I already gave more than enough proof with that grunt's line which you're still conveniently ignoring.
That's not proof of shit.
Girls can save girls. Girls can fall into the "heroic knight" trope.
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>>30231450
Dude, you are so fucking short. That's why Lillie leaves you
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>>30224745
I ship it hard man. A friend and I agreed about it immediatly.
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>>30234287
Nobody ignored that line. We told you you were stupid for thinking that's an argument.

When the games were just male protagonists it was written with a male in mind. Now they're just a neutral character. And nearly no character at all, really.
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>>30234359
Girls can save girls, but other people don't use lines like that towards that girl.

It's a common trope used for guys saving the girl, just like guys getting the girl.
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>>30234353
Pretty sure Lillie IS taller than protag based on in-game models. Is she meant to be a little older?
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>>30233283
is this the one on exeggutor island? ive only played as male mc so idk the differences
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>>30234445
yes she is taller, that art shows protag as taller.
it's wrong
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>>30234428
If you're sticking a female character in a typical hero role, then the save the girl trope still applies. That just doesn't happen that often.
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>>30234445
They were trying to say that art is shit because Lillie is supposed to be taller. And I assumed she was older than Hau and protag. Same with Gladion of course.
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>>30234428
>Girls can save girls, but other people don't use lines like that towards that girl.
They absolutely can, especially when the girl saving hero happens to be a girl, as is the case if you chose the female.
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>>30234468
Oh yeah. Sorry, I misread.
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>>30234329
Why do people keep saying that? Hau had a more in-depth relationship with Gladion than he did with Lillie.
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>>30234448
He's shitposting, there's literally no difference.
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>>30234545
Kukui says it sucks to see the people we love go away or something at the end and people think this means he likes her.
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>>30234422
Not that anon but ff they really wanted to make a neutral character while implying the romance they did with Lillie, they would've given the female character a romantic interest as well. In S/M they just didn't give a fuck and pushed Lillie onto the mc.

What did the girl get? Nothing. Absolutely nothing.
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>>30234545
This is why I ship Hau and Gladion. I think Gladion needs someone like Hau to balance him.
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>>30234633
What do you mean "as well"? It was implied with both protags. If Lillie was implied as a romance, it was with both Sun and Moon.
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>>30234633
I still think they made Gladion for Chicken-chan, but he was too much of an edgelord to show his affection for her.
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>>30234583
That's stupid.
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>>30234704
If Gladion was meant to be implied, they would have implied it. Instead Lillie acts like she's in love with you no matter which gender you play.
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>>30234633
>they did with Lillie, they would've given the female character a romantic interest as well

They did you cunt, Lillie.
Girls can have girl love interests, what a fucking revelation.
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>>30234687
ORAS, B/W, and B2W2 had opposite gendered love interests for the mc's. I can't see why it would be any different here.
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>>30234583
That and when he compliments her, and Gladion goes overprotective onii-chan mode straight away too

Now that I think about it, if he were around for half the stuff Lillie says to us, I'm pretty sure his blood vessels would burst
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>>30234750
>Girls can have girl love interests, what a fucking revelation.
>in a kids game made in nipland
kek
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>>30234798
He doesn't care, he just likes shitting on Hau.
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>>30234798
>overprotective onii-chan mode
That never happened though. He just said "what was that?" and that's because he's always been shitting on Hau. He's not an overprotective brother at all.

In fact, he pretty much seemed to ship you with Lillie, or at least wanted you to like her since he supported your relationship.
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>no good Olivia x Sun /ss/ art
japan fucking up
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>>30234759
Because Lillie was in love with both mc's
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>>30234545
Nip also have zero amount of HauxLillie pic as far as I knew.
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>>30234909
Yeah I'd love an ever-smiling brick wall too if it served as my bodyguard
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>>30234878
It's because the game is pushing the idea that MC has a crush on Lillie.
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>>30234798
>overprotective onii-chan mode
>>>/a/
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>>30234712
Not really, Hau was crying when she left and Kukui responded like he was watching his crush leave him. I agree they had no chemistry during the game and that Hau had a lot more development with Gladion but that scene heavily implied that Hau had a crush on her to me.
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Why are Sun/Lilliefags so easy to trigger? Why are they so insecure? It's 2016, why can't they just embrace the GAY?

Enjoy your lack of art and fics, cucks.
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>>30234815
LilliexMC is undeniable
the MC can be female

Ergo, a same-sex love interest in a kids game made in Japan
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>>30234545
He still likes her. He said he "had so many things he wanted to tell her" at the end even.

>>30234359
>>30234494
t. SJW who doesn't even recognize tropes, however problematic they may be
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>>30234942
Lillie may have a crush on the MC, but it doesn't seem to be requited with how the MC stares blankly at everything. Fuck just wants to watch the world burn.
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>>30234551
people are actually this ignorant

>>30234798
>>30234878
>That and when he compliments her, and Gladion goes overprotective onii-chan mode straight away too
What was the line? I don't remember this.
Or, where in the game? I can look up a video.
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Lillie and my FeMC is my OTP for Sun and Moon, they were to cute together.
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>>30235015
are you autistic
legit question
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>>30235054
>Gladion goes overprotective onii-chan mode
no
Hau says "Whoa Lillie, you look fantastic!"
and then Gladion responds with "What was that?"
and then Hau changes the topic and smiles like a moron and runs of.
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>>30235054
You don't remember it because he doesn't do that. He literally just said "What was that?" when Hau told Lillie she looked fantastic when she changed her outfit. It was even less prevalent in Japanese.
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>>30234992
Hau would cry if MC left too and MC is also someone he loves. In fact, he was much closer to nearly every other character than Lillie. Nothing heavily implied a crush on her.

"So many things he wants to tell her" is also not a sign that he's in love with her. Hau is a person who gets attached to his friends.
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Fuck you fags, there's never going to be MC/Acerola art. Lillie will get art with of the MCs regardless but Acerola will be ignored.
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>>30235113
what was the line in japanese?
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>>30235151
He just said "どうした?”

Which is basically "What?" I don't know how fags get 'overprotective' from that at all.
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>>30235067
It became mine too. I never expected to ship anyone with an 11 year old girl and yet here I am. It helps that I don't self insert.

Brown Moon with dark hair looks so good with her too.
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>>30235002
>like yuri because you are so pathetic to the point you can't imagine having relationship with Lillie yourself, you need a girl as a proxy while your real fat,neckbeard self watch from sideline
Who is the real cuck here?
Also >>30232947
You guys are the one provoking other first. Isn't that mean you are insecure?
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>>30235116
It's fine either way. Protag will grab Hau and they'll go adventuring in Kanto to find Lillie and eventually become a threesome
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>>30235223
>replying to yourself
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>>30235116
I didn't get the impression that Hau liked the MC that much

By the end he just seemed bitter that he could never beat Chicken on top of not being able to beat his grandpa
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>>30235223
I WANT TO CUDDLE LANA IN HER SCHOOL SWIMSUIT
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>>30235180
N...NANI?!
Gross! I want busty hex maniac breastfeeding Acerola! Not this shit!
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Ilima x Chicken-chan is the cutest. Fuck Gladion and his edgy shit.
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>>30235186
Because it was probably the "say that again I fucking dare you" kind of "What?" and not the "I didn't hear what you said" kind
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>>30235186
"What was that?" seems like a fine translation to me (not a questioning connotation, more like "Ahem, what'd you just say there? -side eye-")
I wouldn't say overtly overprotective, no, but sorta.
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>>30235240
Seems kind of lame to get in the way of her gitting gud journey like that
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>>30235245
I am quoting myself because I am too lazy to bother repeting the same thing you idiot.
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>>30235316
He's Gladion, if he wanted to say that he would. He was just saying that because it was Hau, even Gladion himself paid no mind to it like a second after he said so.

My point is that it wasn't overprotective at all. Remember when he told Hau that Lusamine only liked people she didn't give a shit about, too? Gladion enjoys shitting on him at any chance he gets.
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>>30235370
IKR? Acelora is only for hex maniac
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>>30235274
No, it's Nanu
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>>30234053
>the mc doesn't have that blank, expression-less smiling face
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>>30235406
This. Gladion's hobby is bullying the fuck out of poor Hau.
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>>30234798
>overprotective onii-chan mode
>I'm pretty sure his blood vessels would burst
>abandons his sister with their insane mother for a Pokemon
>gives her the task of taking their semi-comatose mother to kanto all alone while he chills at the foundation with his Pokemon
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>>30235734
Pretty sure Lillie volunteered for that task, she seemed really into helping her mom
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>>30235947
She did, but the point is that Gladion would have followed them if he was overprotective. Fuck he wasn't even there when Lillie left.
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>>30222927
t.Olivia
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>>30236064
he could've been on the boat, no?
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You can't fight it
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>>30236171
Nah, they would've shown him if he was.
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>>30236193
maybe. he could also just fly there or whatever if it's not too long a trip, or go at some later date after wrapping shit up, who knows.
lillie will return someday, too
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>>30236243
Gladion's more attached to his Pokemon than his family. Sure he'd go see them, but I doubt he cares as much about them as he does about Silvally.
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>>30234887
>implying
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>>30236288
This. His response to Lillie confronting him about running away was basically pic related.
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>>30228031
There's also the Principal of the school (reuses female Veteran model unfortunately) and stoner artist Fairy Champion
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>>30228031
I'll stick with Lillie even if she did annoy the shit out of me at times.
>>
>>30236624
>>30228031
Lana is the only comparable girl and has just as nice a body :3
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>>30236688
I'm going for Lillie because she spent the most time out of you, even if her "trial" was cringeworthy as fuck not because she's a loli.
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>>30236730
i assume you mean Lana. "spent the most time out of you," what?
and yeah, a loli who actually likes you is just a plus~

>Captcha: croc rambu-rambu
>>
Olivia x Hypno OTP
http://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=3408948
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>>30236928
Well, we don't actually KNOW that's hypno. For all we know it could be Ned Flanders
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>>30236928
delete this
>>
Despite this back and forth between Sun/Lillie and Chicken-chan/Lillie, I am cool with either. Now Ash/Lillie is a ship that should die at all cost. Why ppl continue to ship that stupid asshole with every waifu as if it's some harem anime is beyond me.
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>>30236977
It's literally become some shitty harem anime.
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post lana lewds
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>>30236964
This better?
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>>30237505
better but not perfect

http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=59639218
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i want to cummy inside lana's cunny
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