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>150 base defenses with Eviolite what went so right?

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>150 base defenses with Eviolite

what went so right?
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>>30219637
It's banned from LC.
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>>30219667
no shit
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>>30219667
Still it could be pretty useful in the undercard just like how Porygon2 was UU in Gen6
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>>30219637
>150 base Attack with a Choice Band

who allowed this to happen?
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>>30219637
>>30219738
Those items don't boost the base stats by 50% you humongous retards.
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>>30219637
>silvally loses eviolite, gains a signature that it can't use because it needs an item, and goes from being slow enough to use in Trick Room to mediocre all around

>even when the experiment succeeds, it fails

What went so wrong?
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>>30219766
>base stats only work how I tell you to
Fuck off retard
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>>30219807
>The mask was supposed to suppress its strength
>All it does is just slow it down
They didn't need a mask to accomplish that...
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Its "base defenses with eviolite" are wildly variable because the equivalent base stat would be different based on investment. Don't just multiply base stats when a final stat would be multiplied, it's wrong.

Type Null's eviolite defense with 31 IV + 0 EV = a base 151.5 Pokemon with 31 IV + 0 EV
Type Null's eviolite defense with 31 IV + 252 EV = a base 167 Pokemon with 31 IV + 252 EV
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>>30219961
>170 base defenses

Ubers here we come
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>>30219637
no parting shot or recovery tho
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>>30219961
It's a shame he has close to no recovery and a terrible movepool.

If only it got Parting Shot......
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>>30219667
Isn't LC basically ruined now that you can just go to the Move Relearner and learn any move in your level up list right away?
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>>30219667
Its banned from LC not because it's broken, but because it starts at Lv 40

This would be great in UU if Porygon-2 didn't outclass it.
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>>30220870
this guy is a better mixed attacker than Porygon2 is
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>>30220524
Breading could always do that.
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>>30220945
He still has a shit movepool and access to no recovery
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>>30219807
Hp:110
Attack:110
Defense:110
Special attack:110
Special defense:110
Speed:115

Is it a good mini Arcues ?
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>>30221876
Leave that stats alone, but give it access to shit like Extreme Speed, SD, and Recover.
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>>30221012
Is Joe fucking with me again?

He very poorly says it's a new feature.
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>>30222151
Yeah, to the move learner. Not to breeding.
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>>30222151
For move relearner, yes.
For breeding, no.
You could always breed on a pokemon higher level moves onto a lower level mon in most cases. It's just far easier now is all.
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>>30219667

It can't breed and is a gift mon at level 40. It wasn't eligable in the first place.
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>>30220084
just like porygon2 right
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>>30219807
Silvally is still failed. They put the mask on it AFTER they realized the experiment was a failure.
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>>30219637
How do you get one?
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>>30222778
talk to gladion in postgame
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>>30222778

Talk to Gladion on the conservation floor in post game. Syncornize works 100% of the time.
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>>30220499
Would chesto resto at least give him 2 lives of use with that level bulk?
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>>30222146
The number of combinations of a 9x9x9 Rubik's Cube this
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>>30220524
It wasn't ruined, it was improved. Hydro pump staryu and friends are loving the boost.
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>>30219637
I think your all forgetting that Eviolite got nerfed hard. It doesn't give +50%, it now goes +20% or something near that.
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>>30223919
source, my fucking ass
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>>30222151
It is a new feature. You could do that through breeding, but not through the Move Relearner (that "Re" doesn't make sense anymore, actually).
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>>30223204
>chesto berry
>eviolite
choose one
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>>30223919
You got fooled by the early-shitposters. There's no nerf.
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>>30223204
>eviolite
pls
rest/sleep talk might be aight though, but i've never been a fan of those sets personally. i'd just use porygon2
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>>30221876

That spread is asinine.....you want this thing to be uber?

95/105/95/105/95/105 would have been sufficient
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So it's porygon 2 with no recover. What a shitmon.
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>>30223148

>Synchronize works

Really? does it work on other giftmons too?
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>>30222151
Why is he so bad at writing?
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>>30224229
no, you're wrong, Arceus is uber because of both its stats and movepool combined. Sylvally's movepool is way too shit for it to be Uber. It's missing Extremespeed, Recover, Will-o-Wisp and its type-changing items don't give it a power boost.
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>>30219807
they should have just made it transform into whatever z crystal it is holding, at least that would give you some options. a secondary meme item is just plain shit.
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Is there a reason to evolve this guy?
His ability goes from an okay passive to something you probably won't use anyways.

Also his helmet is cool.
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>>30219667
Nobody gives a shit about smogon
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>>30224416
I agree. I love null's helmet, silvaly doesn't look as cool. The fact it evolves though friendship though is great.
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>>30224340
Zygarde 100% showed us anything with good boosting moves and coverage options is instant Ubers with inflated BST, even if it's attached to a horrid spread and exploitable typing. 110 flat + 115 spe is excessive to put Sylvally in Ubers because you can just run a Swords Dance set and meme all over OU.

It's not like if we removed CM, Recover, SD, ESpeed, and plate type boosts from Arceus a 720 BST monster would drop to OU. Well, maybe like Arceus-Bug would (maybe) but the idea is excessively padded stats in combination with ridiculous offensive options will break a Pokemon.
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>>30224265
it works 100% of the time if its in the first slot of your party for gift mons, but only 50% for wild pokemon
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>>30224382
This. I don't understand what the fuck they were smoking when they decided to add in a whole new item just for this one mon. It would've been so fucking cash if it could type change AND use a Z-move, but no, we're stuck with absolute garbage.
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>>30224416
silvally is 100x better competitively

>can change type from Normal to something better like Ghost or Electric

>much bigger movepool

>better speed
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>>30224793
Wait, fucking what? Synchronize works for gift pokemon now?

Sheeeeeeeeeeeeit.
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>>30224854
do you have any idea how important a hold item is and how much silvally gives up by using a memory

mega fug might even be allowed in ubers if it didn't also have a hold item. arceus only barely had this problem because he had recover, CM, and loads of other goodstuff to make lots of unpredictable sets as well as lots of types.
silvally has swords dance and parting shot; a non-stab flamethrower from 95 base stats, or whatever gimmick you're thinking of, isn't going to be a threat
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>>30219637
It has slightly more bulk than porygon2, but no recovery and worst abilities.
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>>30225111
He still has pretty decent stats and his stab move could work as pure poison considering this is the fairy spam gen.
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uh, parting shot silvally

type null is trash
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that's not how it works moron
you take his defence stats and 50%
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>>30220945
>Porygon2 attacks with Charge Beam
>Buffs itself
>Ice Beam shit
>Can't break it? TOXIC IT!
>About to lose? RECOVER

Porygon2 outclasse Type: Null.
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>>30225469
Z-Parting Shot is super sexy, too. It learns STAB Explosion, too, so it can blow up after you've used your Z-move.
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>>30224854
>>can change type from Normal to something better like Ghost or Electric
Doesn't it need to give up a hold item just to do that?
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>>30225178
battle armor is nice for fatmons
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>>30225628
Porygon Z^2 is fucking incredible.

Z-Conversion on Shadow Ball or Thunderbolt is downright amazing.
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The only problem with the hold item is that unlike plates there's no power boost for the corresponding typing's attack like the Plates. Fix that (even if its just a 10% boost), and it'll be a lot better

Also
>Eviolite Null
>Shittier movepool
>No recover

Its a poor man's Porygon2, family.
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>>30224793
>>30224856
What synchro pokemon is ideal to farm for different this gen?
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>>30225683
Abra can be caught early and then easily bred. That's how I got a stable of synchronizers.

Also, I just looked it up and synchronize works for in-game gift pokemon but not for mystery gift pokemon, so that enormously weakens the value. Good for getting shit like Type: Null and Cosmog but not gonna save you any time elsewhere.
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>>30225675
>Its a poor man's Porygon2, family.
But its more 'expensive' too, as a unique post game pokemon. So Porygon2 is more economical as well.
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>>30225600
yeah null totally doesn't learn toxic

come on /vp/ you suck at this. get better or stop trying
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>>30224535
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