>tfw bravest bird is legal in VGC17

>>30201727
>Gale Wing now only works at full HP
Bravest Bird is dead anon

>>30201727
Smogon bird is now a smogon turkey. Happy thanksgiving.

What does GF have against a regional bird finally being good for once?

And why does stuff like Aegislash get away without a nerf?

>>30203971
Staraptor is still UU and never got nerfed, right?

>>30201727
Sneaky pebbles make gale wings non existent now, birb is fugged.

>>30204005
Staraptor is BL. He's been there for 3 generations instead of just dropping to UU for god knows what reason

>>30204006
>pebbles
>VGC
It's more like he gets one Brave Bird and then is useless.

>>30204006
>Stealth Rock in VGC
???

>>30204069
Because Smogon only gives a shit about OU pretty much.

They're already starting to ban things again in S/M. Zygarde Complete deserved it but the slippery slope starts soon

>>30204089
Maybe you can give Talonflame a Z-Crystal so it doesn't hurt itself on the first attack

>>30203883
Hard switch in another tapu and then fuck Pheromosa right in her skinny slutroach ass

>>30203971
Because priority Brave Bird is fucking stupid and Gamefreak knew it. The overall nerf the priority was a great thing.

>>30204069
That has been bugging me too.

Its not good enough for OU, but apparently the UU power creep over gen 5 and 6 haven't been great enough to let it get unbanned yet?

>>30204162
It would have been if Pheromosa had not been introduced this generation, that thing is honestly more overpowered than Bravest Bird ever was.

>>30205247
>deoxys but worse

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>>30203883
Y-You still get it for one turn! J-Just use a potion!

>>30204116
>Doesn't hurt itself
>With Brave Bird

>>30204140
>le battlefield got weird!
Anyone with half a brain will be blocking priority so things like fake out, sucker punch, feint and shit bird are not an issue.

>>30204116
Kind of wish that the Z-Crystals would be used up, so that you could come out hitting hard with the Flying Z-Move, then go into a priority no item Acrobatics....

I guess at that point, the Z-Crystals would just be glorified Elemental Gems.

>>30204089
>>30204092
why would you not have pebbles in vgc its just extra damage in the most switch centric format

>>30201727
But Staraptor isn't legal yet.

JUSTbird

>>30208773
In vgc you switch like 5 times at best. It's better to just potentially KO someone.

They should have given Prankster the same treatment

>>30205817
>Not understanding how Z-moves work
Did you even play the game?

>>30208911
It's blocked by dark types now

>>30208911
>blocked by dark types
>psychic terrain exists
It was enough of a nerf. At least smogon bird just loses the priority of gale wings, meanwhile prankster powered moves outright FAIL under those conditions. They should just have removed the priority.

>>30209600
Nah, Prankster is the most unfun ability in the game so it deserves the hardest of nerfs.