Protagonists and Lillie

Because we cant canonize any of the protagonists beyond Red, who is a legacy character.

I guess Hau really did win Lillie after all. JUST.

This feels like one of those things that is only relevant because the target audience for these games isn't actually the target audience anymore

>N will never meet Hilbert again
Why live?

>>30195521
Lillie will be like a mix of Looker, Cynthia and N. She will make cameos a lot, you will be able to battle her and like N she will mention she is searching for a trainer she admires and that you remind her of that trainer.

>>30195586
>she will mention she is searching for a trainer she admires and that you remind her of that trainer.
Cucked

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B-but this is the most biased the marketing has been to the male character since FRLG. M-maybe it's a sign that they'll canonize the boy and they'll eventually reunite on Exeggutor Island. please ;_;

>She gets a throw away line long the lines of "Excuse me, I'm meeting a special someone."
S'fine with that.

>>30195480
>People STILL think Lillie has a crush on MC even though her line during the festival was her hesitating to say she was going to Kanto, hence why she tried to leave the next day without saying anything
>inb4 b-but m-muh romance...

>>30196007
This. Fucking Ilima of all people had more romance hinted towards the player than Lillie.

Chicken-chan and Lillie is the ultimate ship

>>30196201
That's because Iilima is a raging homosexual

>>30195480
Lillie leaving Alola will result in the Death of Sunnie/Moonie alternate dimension Nebby, and that will trigger its evolution to Necrozma. Necrozma is actually a heartbroken Nebby left behind by Lillie. Necrozma is a scorned lady.

>>30195846
Gamefreak will never make blatant romance a thing, they've said this before because muh focus.

>>30196007
delete this

Just because we don't see, doesn't mean it didn't happen

Though if she cameos in anything there better be dialogue for having Nebby, and Type Null in your party

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>>30196281
It's actually because it looks like Ilima was written specifically for the female character.

>is watching you throughout the battles at the trainer's school
>flirts with you
>goes on a subtle date with you that ends in his room
>gives you and everstone to symbolize your bond
>stalks you throughout the first island and has special dialogue for whether you used the z move against Hala or not

Guess girls had to get something.

>Pokemon Stars
>Defeat the Elite 4
>Next up is the Champion
>"3 years ago I met a wonderful trainer who changed my life forever. It's thanks to the trainer that I'm here right now"
>It's Lillie

>>30196435
They certainly didn't get anything from Gladion.

Lillie is for chicken-chan ONLY!

>>30196572
awful

>>30195626
>you get cucked by a girl lusting for your other self

>>30195626
>she's still searching for (You)
>(You) remind her of (You)
>this is somehow cucking

>>30196703
They got a lot more from Gladion than they got from Hau or any other guy besides Ilima. Why do you think Chicken/Gladion is so popular?

>>30197286
it's been a few days and i'm already sick of this.
Unpopular opinion, I know, i'm just sick to death of hearing the same thing repeated like a broken record.

>>30197931
It's even more irritation when you know it's delusional yurifags that shit on every other, more reasonable pairing to try and make it relevant.

>>30198000
*irritating

>>30197931
>>30198000
Chicken-chanfags have been fucking unbearable for months.

>>30198000
at first I didn't mind, but then the fan-art started rolling in, then the rabid shit posters, finally the yurifags.
and talking to them is like trying to talk politics with people on different sides of the spectrum and both of them hate you in particular.

>>30198086
They're just literal fags or dykes desperately wanting yuri in a children's game. Fuck, at this point even shipping the fucking chicken with a literal who like Grimsley is even more plausible than Chicken/Lillie.

>>30198000
This. Liking Yuri is okay. Bashing everyone who simply choose to play as his own gender is annoying.

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SunXLillie is less unpopular than you think. You just need to know where to look.

Hint: the artists are girls that love the typical heroXprincess-like girl couple.

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>>30199151

>>30199151
>>30199296
Gladion must be squealing in fucking joy seeing this shit.

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>>30199350
>Implying he isn't internallyscreaming.jpg over all these people into his sister

>>30195626
no the reason she thinks our new guy is similar to the SM protagonist is because she can sense it's actually us, in the real world

her love for us transcends the digital world

>>30199662
No because he literally shipped you and Lillie. He seems to be okay with Hau too at the endgame, so the only one he'd be creeped out by is probably Kukui.

Plus, he wasn't even there when Lillie left, he cared more about being with his doggo.

>>30199662
I was disappointed Gladion and Lillie only talked to each other like once in game.

>>30199948
I don't know why people complain about this. Gladion and Lillie were never supposed to be all that close to begin with, it's understandable that they don't really interact much. Gladion acts like a good, but distant older bro while Lillie's pretty much the same.

>>30200012
Because japan has tainted the image of brother sister relationships so badly that when they actually act like siblings it comes off as weird.

>>30195521
Hau is too gay for that.

>>30195846
>boy
No.

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>>30196226

>>30199662
I wish I knew what they were saying desu, it's a cute scene

>>30198000
>>30198392
I played as my own gender and I still regret it. Lillie only works with a girl, it's not a matter of yurifags or not, it's just that she with a male feels awkward.

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>>30195521
This is lillie's husband.

>>30199860
>that scene where Hau compliments Lillie and then changes the subject real fast when Gladion gets protective
fucking kek

>>30200573
>she with a male feels awkward
>the dialogue is the exact fucking same no matter what
Are you sure you're just not talking out of your ass?

>>30196435
Ilima belongzz to nobody but me, bzzt

>>30198225
It actually it's not, MoonxLillie is the most plausible one.

>>30200630
That's the point, her dialogue only works when it's directed towards other girl, not a male, and specially not me.

>>30200684
>the dialogue only works when it's directed towards another girl
How? Please explain, I don't understand.

I think you need to lay off the yuri doujins for a while

>>30200722
It's just the feeling, like everytime she interacted with MC I thought "this would be perfect if I was a girl", so every time I progressed through the game, I regretted more I wasn't one.

I think the first time I feel it was when she gives you that contact lens case.

>>30200866
>it's just the feeling
I didn't have that feeling, so your statement is irrelevant. If you feel like she pairs better with a girl that's fine but don't say you think it's natural based off of a "feeling". That's retarded.

>>30200901
this.

Feelings are irrelevant when trying to prove a point, It's worse than using opinions to try to prove something as fact.

>>30200866
What? Nearly everything feels more right if you play as te guy. Especially the relationships with Hau and Gladion.

>>30200901
It's just that I don't get how the male Sun players can't get that Lillie doesn't work with a male, I played as male and I get it.

Like that scene in exeggutor island, the rainbow at the end would have been perfect if I was a girl.

>>30201072
With those two I agree, but not with Lillie.

>>30201096
Well that's just your opinion and not a fact.

You can tell gf really wanted to put in a romance option but stopped because the characters are 11.

>>30201096
So much wrong and goggles in this post.
>Sun being represented by a vagina.

>>30201096
Did that scene at night as a guy and got shooting stars instead. It was perfect.

>>30201156
GF really needs to make a pokemon game for their older audience as that's the majority now.

>>30201245
Do you have numbers?

>>30201121
While that's true, I just can't find the appeal of Sun.

>>30201188
At least try to explain why Sun makes any sense, japan artists seem to get it the same as me.

>>30201096
Anon do you get lingering feelings that you were supposed to be a girl often?

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>>30201392
The japanese are just obsessed with cute girls.

>>30201096
>rainbow at day
I was wondering about that since I got shooting stars there since it was night in game while I was playing, which has a romantic feel to it, I wonder what you get during dawn and dusk though

>>30201392
Every female protag other than red and Ethan gets more art than the male one. And those two didn't have girl protags in their initial games.

I don't really need to explain why the guy works better because it just is.

>>30201245
They're not going to do this. They've said why.

>>30201657
I can say the same thing about the girl. And if japs liked SunxLillie more, they would draw it more. Most female protags dominate alone artwork over their male counterparts, but Moon dominates even the Lilliexprotag pictures. That's why I think I'm not alone with this feeling.

>>30201657
>>30202009
>I don't want to explain why the boy fits better
>I don't want to explain why the girl fits better
You two should go out.

>>30202009
uh huh

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>>30202009
No, they're just obsessed with cute girls. They do this every game that has a male/female protagonist option. They did the same shit for Dawn and Cynthia.

>>30202009
Japan just likes drawing girls, dude.

>>30202009
Gay pairings, especially with little girls, are always more popular in fanart than straight pairings. especially if nothing is canon. The only thing that would trump it is of there was an antagonist or bad boy character to ship the protag with, and even then it's more common to pair them with the twinky male protag (N, for example)

>>30195480
>Lillie keeps coming back
>Meanwhile I still don't get my daily rematches with Zinnia cause she fucked off after Delta Episode, and japs don't understand the concept of hatefucking

My name must be Anthony Burch, cause I'm the real cuck here

>>30195480
>However, she will never meet the Sun & Moon protagonists ever again
What makes you think that? She might not do it on-screen, but there really doesn't seem to be any good reason to think that.

>>30204157
N and Hilda/Hilbert I guess. But then again there was some development for reintroducing them like Red before it was scrapped.

>>30204202
In that case, N actually left the region without telling anyone where he was going. He went into hiding, basically. Hilbert then had to search the whole world, so them not meeting is acceptable.

But in this case, Lillie tells you exactly where she's going, why she's going there and that she will be back. One of the reason she went to Kanto was to find a cure for her mother. She will definitely come back when she finds Bill.

It's more of a Red/Blue situation. Red went away from the region to train for a while, but in the end, he's still hanging out with his best buddy Blue.

>>30195480

I feel like this could all be remidied very easily.
>"Welcome to Sun 2/Moon 2. Please insert the name and gender of your Pokemon Sun or Moon character."

There. Now they can show up and be part of the game too.

So many other games do this. I don't know why Gamefreak either has a hard time with it or just doesn't care.

>>30200866
Look dude we get it you wish your a girl. Just start dousing your food with estrogen already faggot

>>30204276
She says that she'll come back specifically to travel with (You), doesn't she?

>>30204295
I want them to do something like Mass Effect but Gamefreak are pretty shitty devs

>>30200581
>>30195521
Kukui confirmed pedo

>>30204365
Yes.
I should also add that the Protagonist isn't leaving the region, at least not until Lillie comes back. They might go on an adventure together, but he's staying the champion until then.
GF wouldn't have went out of their way to make it that he stays and defends his Champion title if they were going to have him ditch it all in a few days.

>>30200573
how the fuck is this true at all?

>>30199662
>Implying Gladion isn't fucking that tight loli pussy

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Lillie being shipped with Sun or Moon doesn't actually matter so long as the ship remains MCxLillie.
It's so good, it made me wish I didn't self insert.

Also, speaking as an artfag, artists draw whatever the fuck they want, what's 'popular' doesn't really matter since the wide majority of pieces are done on an individual basis, based on what the artist thinks would be funny or cute. If you want more of your ship, either support the artists that draw it with commissions and the like, or draw it yourself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKfvMb3fihQ

>People still think there wasn't any romance in this game after they pulled scenes like this

>>30199151
You're right, so get ready to see Ash stupid mug plastered everywhere in place of Sun.

>>30197631
(You) aren't Red anymore so (You) wouldn't actually be (You) in that game either

>>30202009
I like SunxLilie more, but if I were to draw something, I would rather draw a cute girl than a cute boy.

The male character fits better because of the romance undertone this game is filled with. It doesn't work if the MC is a girl. It's a bit much to assume that two 11 year olds are gays.

>>30204572
>cucked by (You)rself
Why do I find this hilarious?

>>30199151
>>30199296
M-more? I could never find these on my own.

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Why is she so perfect?

>lillie meets the BW1 protags

>>30204752
generic waifubait desu
but I'll give credit where credit is due, at least Gamefreak tried this time around.

>>30204776
>Lana
>boobs

WHAT IS THIS SHIT

SHE IS FLAT AND PURE!

>>30200608
That was mostly just Gladion shitting on Hau since he didn't do the same to you. If he really was protective he'd be shitting on you, too.

>>30204864
I love the dynamic between them. Hau surprised me, I thought I'd hate his ass.

>>30204776
is the middle chick supposed to be lillie?

and why are they not lolis?

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Gladion/Chicken-chan is extremely popular as well despite not having as many hints as Lillie. The nips know that if the game was directed at females or GF actually bothered to make the dialogue different, Gladion would've been the main husbando for the chicken.

>>30204295
Could be pretty neat, but I think it'd work better with some sort of "old save bonus" kind of mechanic. Perhaps it could be based off the trainer of the Sun/Moon game registered to your NNID somehow?

>>30204929
tfw ship Lillie/Chicken and Gladion/Hau

It all worked out in the end.

>>30204157
Don't question it. These cucks get off on their own headcanon.

>>30204929
Loli x older male
imokwiththis.exe

>>30204929
>this will eclipse Chicken/Guzma

fuck

>>30204982
both are good and have lillie getting fucked by older guys

>>30204929
That's because it's Silver/Lyra 2.0. You're literally the only person aside from his family and Pokemon that he trusts, it's easy to see where it would go from there if you were playing as a girl.

>>30205031
>>30204982
whoops, *chicken, not lillie

>>30204503
Another artfag here, and pretty much this... Although if any of you decide to draw what you want to see yourself, don't get disheartened if you can't draw what you see in your head right away; drawing is 1% natural talent, 9% willpower, and 90% PRACTICE. And if you're planning on sketching/drawing traditionally: ALWAYS stock up on spiral notebooks! They're your best friends for that practice: cheap, easily hidden in plain sight, and easily disposed of.

Or Lillie could just not show up again. That'd be preferable to having Pokemon Lillie 2.

>>30200866
You just want to see yuri.

When Lusamine bitches out Lillie before the second battle the male MC fits more because of the Rapunzel story going on. She changed because she met a boy, etc.

>>30205084
Not to mention the very obvious way Gladion ships you two.

If you were meant to be a girl in the game, he would be all over you instead.

>>30204503
Why does it make you wish you didn't self-insert?

Don't like 11yos?

>>30205097
>very obvious way Gladion ships you two
hm?

>>30205151
Because I love Gladion, not Lillie. But Protagonist/Lillie is really good.

>>30205203
Then keep on loving him. Lillie left and it's only natural for your relationship to progress into the romance territory if you're a girl that is.

>>30205170
>He gets angry on Hau for a simple comment on Lillie's looks
>Doesn't care if the MC does it
>Basically tells you to take care of her forever
The only way they could've been more obvious about it is he had just said "Fuck my sister".

>>30205266
>implying he's not already fucking her small, innocent body

>>30205266
Adding to this, I feel like he might've exaggerated the stuff Lillie told him to tell you just to get you to like her more.

>>30205305
>incest
>Pokemon
Even the yurifags are more reasonable than you incestfags.

>>30205331
it's less about the incest and more about the loli

>>30205354
Then get Kukui, at least that's plausible.

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>>30205305
>Runs away with a Pokemon
>Leaves her with his crazy mother who starts being even more harsh on Lillie because Gladion ran away
>Pulls a pic related when confronted about it

He's too much of an edgelord to even show his brotherly side to her. That headcanon is below fanfic-tier.

>>30205367
I'm also okay with that :3 and you're correct, it is.
i-incest is a little bit hot too, but only with the older brother/little sister power dynamic...

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I want it to be the girl if they reappear. Not even a yurifag, I think chicken-chan and lillie as friends is better then the boy being a romantic interests.

I don't know though, seeing two really close people that aren't romantically involved is just really touching to me.

>>30205389
I agree, but Pokemon is the least viable series for this to happen, especially with someone like Gladion see >>30205375

>>30205375
Pretty much this. He cares for his family, sure, but he's an edgelord about it who obviously likes his doggo more.

>>30205407
oh yeah, agreed, it's just all made-up anyway

>>30205405
So basically what the game already does? Because you know Gamefreak will just pull the "close friends" shit and leave it open to interpretation like they always do.

>>30205405
MC AS MALE VERSION OF THIS WHERE

but yeah, definitely friends

Did anyone else play as the boy and self insert as Lillie?

>>30205478
Are you a grill?

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Why is the most underrated husbando the one that actually had a lot of romantic subtext with you?

>>30196007
Yeah let's just ignore all of the other idolizing and admiring she does of you throughout the rest of the fucking game. Let's just forget that her whole character development occurred because of you. Let's just forget that she never would have even had the gall to leave for Kanto or probably do fucking anything if it weren't for you getting involved with her.

>yurifags
NEVER EVER

>>30205495
Yes...

>>30205582
>girls
>on the internet
Please.

Though it is interesting, never thought about if a girl would self insert as her. I went with the heroine and saw it as a cute friendship.

>>30205375
To be fair... I don't think he knows HOW to deal with situations like this. besides, Doggo/Goddo is a lovely little blasphemy incarnation of humanity's hubris and misapplied need for security.

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Which one do you like more?

>Lillie returns a year later
>Chicken-chan was waiting to welcome her
>Lillie hugs Chicken-chan and is super happy
>She shows her Pokemon to Chicken-chan and meets Nebby again
>Visits her mother and Gladion
>Spends the night at Chicken-chan's home, chatting all night and catching up

Or

>Lillie returns a year later
>Sun welcomes her back to the region
>A blushing Lillie hugs an unsuspecting Sun, he gets flustered about it
>She shows off her Pokemon and meets Nebby again
>They visit Lusamine
>They meet Gladion, who, as the shipper he is, tells protagonist to let Lillie sleep in his house, since she doesn't have anywhere else to go
>Lillie stays with the protagonist and Sun's mother teases him about it, making the situation awkward for both
>They play all night, Lillie tells him about her adventure and they have a little battle
>They go an adventure together with Nebby, who is happy to have both his mom and dad back

I know the second one is more details. That's because it was more cute. And I know Sun doesn't show emotions. Just roll with it.

>>30205642
Sun's is absolutely adorable and I can see it happening.

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>>30205642
>The second one

>>30205642
B-both... but the second if I had to pick.

>>30205582
How do you feel about Lillie x Kukui or other parings involving lolis getting fucked

>>30205681
Kukui is married. He gets burnett, he has it good already.

>>30205715
Can't hurt to have a loli fuckbuddy on the side. Little girls get want to have fun too, anon.

>>30205730
Not that anon but, I prefer Grimsley/Chicken-chan if we're going into older men territory.

>>30205730
>>30205759
I would say him fugging Chicken-chan makes more sense. Imagine Chicken-chan 3 timing with Gladion, Grimsley and Kukui.

>>30205815
>>30205759
It already fits with him practically telling you to call him uncle.

>>30205759
>>30205815
>>30205834
Pretty much just everyone likes little girls.

:3

>>30205852
Anon, I just like that particular pairing.

>>30205815
M-my dick...

>>30205886

you'll see the light soon enough. what's stopping you? :3

>>30205555
quads confirm

cuck cuck cuckedy cuck
am i cool yet

>>30195480
Youre greenposting which suggests youre quoting an actual source but I have a good feeling there isnt one

>>30205910
I'm a massive shipperfag that ships something if it looks cute and feels fitting or romantic. That's really all there is to it.

>>30205929
wat

>>30205956
but little girls are always cute, anon~

>>30205730
there's a nice picture of Burnett riding Sun while Kukui pounds moon from behind

>>30205972
link? or gelbooru id?

>>30195480
>confess her admiration
this might be the most absolutely stupid statement ive ever read. i dont understand how any individual could play the game and take that from it. as if in every conversation lilly doesnt tell you how great you are and thank you for everything you do for her

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Why would he do this, /vp/?

>>30206002
Why wouldn't he do that? I would do the same if I could.

>>30206092
M-me too...

How old is she anyway?

>>30206184
Around the same age as MC. She's an actual loli.
Kinda surprising. I thought she would be one of those characters that are older than they look.

>>30206209
That's what I thought, people were just speculating she was old as fuck or something. Glad to hear she's actually a qt little girl with unfortunately a weird face

But yeah, definitely would be fun to play with her a little bit. :3 Wonder if she's had any experience~

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>>30206274
>>30206002

>>30206353

>not being into lolis
>2016

Explain yourself.

>>30206353
Shit taste.

>>30195480
Why can't Game Frick let other protagonists come back? They've done it with Red and I know it's genwunner pandering but still

The fact that N will never meet Hilda ever again upsets me.

Same with Chicken and Lillie.

>>30206379
Lolis are bad

>>30207409
>Why can't Game Frick let other protagonists come back?
>The fact that N will never meet Hilda ever again upsets me

For this fucking reason. I don't want to see that slut again. I want Hilbert to be the protagonist. The only thing that booty short slut is good for is being FUCKED. She doesn't deserve to be the protagonist. I would rather have no MC appears than that whore appearing.
Of course, some of you faggots who can only see things with their dicks will disagree with me. There will be outrage either way, so GF picked the safe option and chose not have the MC appear again.

>>30207810

Who hurt you Anon? What was her name? How many times did she stomp on your heart before kicking it into the fire?

>>30207847
No one has, yet. But if GF makes it that Hilbert doesn't exist and that pig fucking slut does, I will be hurt. And I won't be the only one hurt.

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>>30207810
>>30207875
I feel like I've seen you somewhere before.

>>30205555
That doesn't confirm she's fucking in love with you, moron. My best friend literally saved my life once, yet I haven't fallen in love with her. She's my best friend, like how we're Lillie's.

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>>30207875
>And I won't be the only one hurt.

>>30207928
>Having a woman as your best friend

You know, most men who have a female best friend usually call them "Wife" or in the very least "Girlfriend".

I think you may be some kind of beta male or something. You may want to see a doctor, you're clearly defective.

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>>30196007

>He doesn't remember Lillie asking you about her clothes scene.
>He doesn't remember Lillie bringing up that very same scene after the fight with her mother showing her new clothing.
>He doesn't remember the exeggutor island scene
>He didn't answer "I don't know what I'm doing after the island challenge"
>He thinks all of Lillie's reminiscing and talk of saving her all the time is just flavored text.
>He thinks Lillie calling you Nebby's "father" when she has constantly den mothering the pokemon through out the game is more flavor text.
>He thinks Lillie not saying anything about leaving at the end is proof when it's later found out she specifically told Wicke to only tell you about her Mother's condition because she knew you were worried about her.
>He thinks Lillie giving YOU but not Hau her favorite pokedoll is nothing.

Nigga you are in fucking denial, Lillie is in love with you but she prioritized her mom's well-being (rightfully so) over you because she wanted to make amends.

Get it through your head, Hau is a cuck and the MC is the canon love interest.

>>30208139
While I disagree with the anon and think Lillie is madly in love with Sun, I disagree with what you just said too. Having grown up in an area where girls outnumber boys by a lot, I have a lot of close female friends. Wouldn't date any of them, 3DPD and all that, but I still love them as friends.

>>30198392
As opposed to all the people in this thread writing literal fanfiction for Lillie and Sun and saying if you like the girl-girl pairing you're a "delusional yurifag"

Spoiler theres going to be no fucking romance in any Pokemon game, the people arguing Sun and Lillie could ever be canon are just as retarded

>>30208168
>"Spoiler theres going to be no fucking romance in any Pokemon game"
>After Masuda himself said they wanted to add romance

>>30204157
Because the BW1 protag changed the entire fucking world of Unova and didnt ever see N again, or even appear in a direct sequel

>>30208216
See >>30204276

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>shipperfags

>>30208287
Tell that to the game.

>fw you like ChickenLIllie but hate how the fans force it down everyone's throats

inb4 N and Lillie meet and fall in love after giving up on the two trainers they loved but were never able to find again.

>>30209896
>"Oh, I also had bad parents! And was recognized by a Legendary!"
>"What a coincidence! Let's fuck!"

>>30209896
That would make N a pedophile.

Not entirely out of character though.

>>30210106
>That would make N a pedophile.
wut

i'd ship Lillie and Sun but not Lillie and chicken girl.

>>30201657
>Ethan

His name is Gold.

>>30207810
>>30207875
G-cis, you need to calm down.

>>30210658
>Gold
His name is Ethan.

>>30208162
None of that is romantic. It's just a strong friendship. Lillie only admires and looks up to the MC.

>>30208181
They also said they didn't want to make it the main thing or really involved. So the most you'll get is likely just shipteases.