Why was this allowed?

>>30193047

Intimidate synergizes very well with Incineroar

>Learns Fake Out
>Throat Chop stops Hyper Voice or Perish Song from being used

Its niche is that it's a better Intimidate + Fake Out user than Hitmontop

>>30193047
Intimidate actually works out well for Incineroar considering its stat spread and slow U-turn

Now, Corossion Marianne/Toxapex? Get the fuck out of here.

>>30193288
Who gives a shit its still awful. It should have gotten a unique Abilty like its kin or else they all should have gotten old but good abilities like Serene Grace for Primarina and I dunno, Sniper for Decidelybadeye.

>>30193420

>Sniper
>Good ability

Pick one

Decidueye should have gotten Stakeout

>>30193337
Still lazy as fuck to slap one of the most common abilities on it instead of a hot mess like Liquid Voice.

Salazzle is hardly gonna make use of it. Getting a guaranteed toxic on a mon then getting btfo by their attack is hardly good. Merciless would have made Salazzle mad dangerous in conjuction with a Toxic Spikes user.

Corrosion on Toxapex would have guaranteed banned-to-ubers levels of cancer.

Its more that its a defensive ability on an offensive frail mon and vice versa.

>>30193456
I couldn't think of anything good and still as clearly thematic. If it got a guaranteed crit move as a signature then it would work. It literally has Sniper making up its Japanese name.

Stakeout is counterintuitive considering its signature move's niche is trapping not forcing switches.

>No Galvanize Vikavolt with Hyper Voice

>Toucanfuck didn't get a multi-hit Flying Stab.

>Gumshoos didn't get STAB Stakeout Pursuit

>>30193529
>Salazzle is hardly gonna make use of it. Getting a guaranteed toxic on a mon then getting btfo by their attack is hardly good. Merciless would have made Salazzle mad dangerous in conjuction with a Toxic Spikes user.

You don't use Toxic directly on the Steel-type, you use it on a predicted switch-in like Heatran, then switch out

>>30194096

who the fuck would be stupid enough to switch a steel type in on salazzle

>>30193420
Yeah, the fact that Incineroar got a fairly common ability ended up working in it's favor. Decidueye got a highly situational move, though one that works as long as it uses physical contact moves. Sniper would have worked fine for it actually, since it can use high-crit moves like Leaf Blade and Shadow Claw, even though it'd rather be using Spirit Shackle than the latter.

Primarina just got completely shit on in just about every possible way. Liquid Voice is probably one of the top 5 worst abilities there is when coupled with it's lack of Boomburst. Serene Grace would have given it a very unique and valuable niche.

As they are, I see Primarina as RU at best, if Gamefreak would even allow it that high. Decidueye will be RU aside with a niche that puts it in UU. Incineroar will be upper UU or maybe even BL in doubles.

>>30193420
Hitmontop isnt awful. It won worlds this year

>>30193626
You realize the threat of trapping foes forces switches, right?
Naturally people will switch to a counter before Decidueye gets a shackle off, so you use that mentality to try and nail switch ins with a better move, eg. Someone switches in a Normal type expecting the shackle, but get hit with a boosted Low Sweep instead.

Intimidate may be common but boy is it good