Which one is your favorite, /vp/?

Ya boi of course

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>>30168315
Ghetsis in the games

Lysandre in the anime

>>30168315
Guzma, although he's not a bad guy. That bitch on the right, though....

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My wife of course

>>30168315
Giovanni, but team skull is the best team overall

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>>30168315
Ghetsis. He's still the most evil leader in the games.

>>30168315
The one with a vagina.

>>30168644
Maxie?

>>30168315
Gio

>>30168653
The one with a vagina, not the one that is a vagina.

>>30168315
I liked Ghetsis and Guzma. Ghetsis for that one moment in BW2 where he has a meltdown and calls the kid the groomed/raised from a young age a freak, and Guzma for feeling real (the stuff at his old home) and being a bugbro.

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>>30168424
>lysandre was trash in the games
>was fucking outstanding in the anime

>>30168315
Where's Archer?

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I'm just really heavily biased toward anything Team Plasma.
I love those guys so much.
I think most of my liking of them is due to their dope outfits and theme song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LB87TndHlFg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vCbwiGamBw

>>30168315
I want to fuck Maxie.

>>30168315
That's some skewed scale.
Guzma is Huge.
Archie is Hugest.

>>30168315
Guzma easily, not even a contest.

The real question is, which leader had the best theme? And why is it Guzma?
Archie and Maxie - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xv7ZGS3Nkbo
Lysandre - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tlDYJaCO8I
Guzma - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eY6ick5g3MA
Lusamine - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCf-HcYIzJA
Lusamine + Nihilego - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMHdiKaOFvE
Ghetsis (BW) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nX2hOoaLb4Y
Ghetsis (BW2) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjueMDjuqm4
Cyrus - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hq742Ip5Tbo
Giovanni doesn't have his own, lmao what a fag.

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>>30169287
Colress isn't technically a leader but his theme is the best song in the series.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4UTKk5eF1c

>>30169287
GEEEETSIS

>>30169287
Lysandre

>>30169407
ehh, prefer his anime remix theme

https://youtu.be/vscvLr7MmiQ?t=519

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>>30168315
Reminder

>>30169287
Either Guzma or Dennis, but I really love Colress's theme too.

>>30169942
Guzma is retaliating against the system that wouldn't let him have a Z ring because he was too strong, though.

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>>30168315
Archie and Cyrus. Archie cause he's a bro and sexy, Cyrus because he's pretty interesting for a Pokemon character.

>>30168315
Wait why is Lusamine in that picture?

>>30169287
Cyrus or Lusamine1 for me. Guzma's got a solid one too

I don't consider N or Colress as villains so they won't be here but here is my rankings for games only

TOP TIER:
>Lusamine
>Cyrus

HIGH TIER:
>Ghetsis
>Guzma

MID TIER:
>Giovanni
>Archie/Maxie (ORAS)

LOW TIER:
>Archie/Maxie (R/S/E)

SHIT TIER:
>Lysandre

>>30168315
I always liked Archie the most purely because his personality (In RSE and OrAs) was pretty good and I liked the whole 'Holy shit did I fuck the fuck up" thing.

Cyrus as well because he's pretty interesting personality and motive wise. A sociopath who wants to make everyone a sociopath.

>>30170326
>I dont consider N or Colress villains

Characters in any medium that act against the protagonist and do bad things regardless of intention or willingness are often referred to as "villains" you know.

>>30170100
It's from before release. Don't worry about it.

>>30170465
N and Colress are just antagonists with N being a antagonist turned anti hero and Colress being neutral

>>30169287
Lysandre's is the best, or would be the best, it's such a shame that it's just a remix of the grunt music.

>>30169942
>N
>Elder God tier

Audible kek

>>30170528
>encasing a good chunk of Unova in ice is neutral
>raising an entire castle over the pokemon league with the intention of usurping rule of an entire country isn't evil

whatever you say my dude

>>30170586
N just wants people to release their Pokemon, it's not like he wants to be god king or something. He's not at all villainous, he's basically a glorified rival.

>>30170528
N and Colress did worse things than Team Rocket tho. Doing it for a good cause is irrelevant.

>>30170673
N was just an autist who wanted pokemon to be released and he was just a puppet for Ghetsis.

Colress was just a mad scientist who took unethical measures to show a pokemons true potential.

Ghetsis is bestis

Such a fucking baller. Plasma is the best

>>30170710
not the anon youre arguing with but you need to check out >>>/lit/ if you don't know what a villain is.

I want Cyrus to emotionlessly destroy my boipussy.

>>30170326
Pretty good ranking.

>>30168315
Queen Mommy>Giovanni>Guzma>Ghetesis>Cyrus>Maxie>Lysandre>Archie

>>30170326
Reasoning?

>>30169287
Archie and Maxie's theme is definitely my favorite villain battle theme in the entire series, but Guzma does give it some competition.

>>30171173
Lusamine was a lot of fun and had a tragic backstory that drove her insane plus the fact she was motivated by her deep desires

Cyrus because he was a sociopath who wants to destroy the world and make one with no emotions

>>30169287
Cyrus > Lysandre > Archie/Maxie > Lusamine > Ghetsis = Guzma

Not a fan of Pokemon music that has words/chanting, sounds too weird to me

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>>30169287
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CenW7mVuvD0

>Not posting Best Final Boss Colress
>Even though Ghetsis made him in charge of Neo-Plasma.

aslo

>Guzma
>Villain

>>30168805
neo plasma grunt them is utter shite

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Ghetsis or Guzma. They also both have my favorite villain themes.

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>tfw I'm the only here who liked Lysandre and his plan
Lysandre is really to intelligence for normal heads

Why do so many people think Archie was a good villain in this thread?
>Magma: We wanted to help humanity by expanding landmass, but we didn't think of the consequences of doing so would be this severe
>Aqua: We wanted to expand water because hurr we're sea pirates

>>30169287
Lusamine1 > Cyrus > Guzma > Archie and Maxie > Lysandre > Ghetsis (BW2) > Lusamine + Nihilego > Ghetsis (BW)

>>30171985
/vp/ is gay + Archie ORAS is a macho big guy

>>30171883
>I'M GOING TO KILL ALL POKEMON BECAUSE THEY'RE TOO GOOD FOR THIS WORLD
>SEE I'M CRYING IN A DRAMATIC WAY, I'M ACTUALLY A TRAGIC GUY AT HEART, PLEASE PITY ME

Lysandre sucked ass

>>30170100
They're all organization leaders. Why, what'd you think it meant?

To this day I would still follow Cyrus. Fuck this world.

>>30172301
Wasn't he planning to kill the pokemon because he believed the world didn't have enough resources to support both humans and pokemon in the future?

>>30172428
No, he just wanted to kill everyone not in Team Flare before he suddenly said that. Might have been resources too but Pokemon can literally create food and life and shit out of nothing

>>30168315
>God Tier
N - Great motives, interesting character, nicely designed and executed almost perfectly

>High Tier
Ghetsis - Pure evil. No better way to make a villain.
Giovanni - Evil, but only in it for the profits. Actually achieved his goals.
Cyrus - Genius autist. Hates everything and wants to become the God. Fits the role perfectly.

>Mid Tier
Maxie - Understandable motives, not stupid.

>Low Tier
Guzma - Funny. That's the only thing he has going for him.
Lusamine - Batshit insane, and pretty stupid.

>Shit Tier
Lysandre - A complete retard. Felt good killing him.
Archer - Literally who.

>>30169942
>N
>Villian

Evil for evil's sake is grossly underrated

>>30172573
>Literally the King of Team Plasma
>"He's good so he doesn't count"

>region is wealthy as fuck
>even the have-nots are living comfortably while the rich brats shoved into your face do nothing of note
>nobody concerned about daily necessities or getting by, the people who do worry are worrying about inconsequential shit like status
>literal magic godly beings loyal to humans capable of extracting or creating resources exist
>THE WORLD IS GOING TO RUN OUT OF RESOURCES I MUST KILL EVERYONE

What did he mean by this?

>>30172723
Maybe he visited Alola and noticed how bad things were there.

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>>30172723

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>>30168801
I'm right here, but I don't see how this is relevant.

>>30168363
>>30168407
/thread

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Who has the best bro?

For reference:

>Giovanni: Nidoqueen, at least according to the distribution. In reality he alternates between it, Nidoking, and Rhydon.
>Maxie: Camerupt
>Archie: Sharpedo
>Cyrus: Weavile
>Ghetsis: Hydreigon
>Lysandre: Pyroar (His strongest is Gyarados, but...)
>Guzma: Golisopod
>Lusamine: Bewear (?)

You're now imagining all of them as kids with the prevos.

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>>30168315
Guzma
Cyrus/Maxie
Everyone besides Lysandre
Lysandre

>>30172967
Rhyperior is the most fitting for Giovanni, it's his ace in BW2.

>Lusamine's ace is Bewear
>she abuses her children
>Bewear is infamous for killing children

>>30173159
Plus let's not forget how Lillie mentions her mom suffocating others with her "love" whether they want to or not.

>>30172967
Ok everyone say Ghetsis' japanese name out loud and tell me what you hear

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>>30172466
>N - Great motives, interesting character, nicely designed and executed almost perfectly

Please anon, one man can only laugh so much

>>30173296
I don't get it. G-Cis?
Gee-si--
Oh

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>>30169942
I don't think it's fair to judge a villain solely on why they're evil. You gotta look at them as a character too, Giovanni was cool because he didn't fuck around. He was an inscrutable mob boss who ignored laws and morals completely, comitting massive city spanning crimes in broad daylight, taking an entire office building captive just to personally blackmail the CEO. And, ridiculously enough, he still managed to keep his position as Gym Leader. The only things he respected were money, power and his own pride.

And I fucking love it.

>>30168315
Guzma is the worst. he's a pushover, not main enemy and he's a coward who got outshined by Gladion and Lusamine

He's such a let down its not even funny

>>30173399
this.
who cares if he can't be captain , do something else instead of leading a gang.