>Every generation has some bad desi-

>>30129918
Baby pokemon were a mistake.

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Yeah, they do

Plus literally every baby except Togepi

You interrupted yourself with the generation that proves that point the most, OP.

Yeah, Gen 2 has ONLY bad designs.

>>30129937
>You can't have Raichu, Clefable and Wigglytuff learn their Level 1 moves because Pichu, Cleffa and Igglybuff exist

Fuck baby Pokemon. Some like Elekid and Magby were fine, but a lot of them really hinder the evolutionary lines they're a part of

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>>30130000
>quads

That fucking seed and the thing it evolves into
Baby Pokemon

Why do people hate baby pokemon? We need a lot more honestly I'm fucking sick of late game single stage mons. Turtonator and Drampa easily could have had prevos

>>30130000
Level 1 Pokémon didn't even exist in Generation II

>>30130066
Because they were tacked on to established lines and are just shit all around.

>>30130066
Because evolving via friendship is gay and can seriously fuck you if you don't throw out your 50 bst in every battle.

>>30129970
Elekid is one of my favorite designs of all time.

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>Baby Pokemon are bad
Where did this meme come from? I searched the Know Your Meme database and I can't find an origin.

>Allow you to get rare pokemon like Electavire, Snorlax, Sudowoodo, and Blissey earlier
>Cute as heck
>Detract nothing from the game because you can still get their final evolution

>>30130066
They're little shitbags that can't fight due to their low stats and can't breed for some reason. It's really the breeding aspect that's the biggest problem with them and if that wasn't the case at all a lot of people wouldn't hate them as much

Some Pokemon also didn't need them like Pikachu or Jigglypuff. The Incense Babies are also pretty bad, but at least they're optional

>>30130066
Unnecessary, marketable fluff to pad out the Pokedex with some of them having the lowest BST in existence, almost all of them evolve via happiness or at a late level making it obnoxiously difficult to carry them until they evolve, and they straight up stop learning moves at a very early point, meaning without relearner you're literally missing its evolution's moves for each level that shitty little fuck gains without evolving.
There's also borderline nonexistent methods to boost happiness faster without overleveling or running in circles for five hours in earlygame.

gen 2 has the second worst designs in the series next to gen 4

literally baby pokemon and gen 1 rejects

>>30129918
>Ursarang
>Stantler
>Cleffa
>Blissey
>Typhlosion
>Lanturn
>Miltank

gen 2 would have the worst designs in the series had it not been for sinnoh

>>30130119
you have shit taste then

>>30130284
>Ursarang
>Lanturn
>Bad

>Not including the literal pinecone with eyes

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>>30130284

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>>30130289
People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones, Unovabortion

>>30130382
gen 5 has better designs than 2 and 4

t. hoennfag

>>30130310
Lanturn's not that great considering how cool animal it's based on looks.

>>30130310
>boring gen1 reject
>poorest excuse for an anglerfish ever
>good

>clever combination of a pinecone, bagworm, and a grenade
>bad

>>30130165
>keeps you from getting good Pokemon right away
>look dumb as shit, half of them could have downs syndrome
>stops your gameplay to run around and level a bullshit invisible happiness meter

>>30129970
>every baby
>a bunch of qts look bad
'no'

>>30130382
>WHAT A BULL AAAND A BISON?!?!
>THOSE ARE WAY TOO SIMILAR!
>CLEARLY ONE SHOULD NOT EXIST!
that is what you look like

>>30130068
>what is breeding?

>>30130543
Eggs hatched at level 5 numbnuts

>>30130543
Back then, Pokemon hatched at level 5.

>>30130418
>Hoennfag
LMOA your entire region consists of toys, water, and Mega Man bosses
Gen 3 has one (1) good design and its Claydol.

>>30130605
>megaman bosses

what

>>30130382
Hoenn gen 3 sucks ass. Only faggots that grew up with it like it.

>>30130382
Nice deflection faggot. Regardless of what's in other gens, gen 2 had a ton of shitty designs.

>>30130094
what's the problem with the first one and that second one doesn't mean squat

>>30130107
shit trainer confirmed. i guess you must hate training tyrantrum too?

>>30130177
>low stats
well yeah duh
>can't breed
cuz they're babies
>didn't need them
nothing really needs anything in this game

>>30130233
>marketable
they're not as forced as greninja and charizard. i'd say this isn't true but whatever
>low bst
so what? just don't use them competitively
>evolve via happiness
shit trainer confirmed

>>30130284
typhlosion is the only weak design you mentioned

>>30130435
>>poorest excuse for an anglerfish ever
actually looks good instead of looking like fucking eelektross? kys

>>30130439
>half of them could have downs syndrome
they're babies. lmao you sound dumb
>stops your gameplay to run around and level a bullshit invisible happiness meter
so do a million other mons. tyrunt, amaura, golbat, eevee if you want espeon/umbreon, lopunny, riolu, woobat, swadloon, and others

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>>30130605
What's wrong with Mega Man bosses?

>>30129937
I don't even get why they made some of them.

Elekid, another baby pokemon, has superior base stats to Pikachu. And they made Pichu anyway.

Also, it means several pokemon that could have been decent in Little Cup are illegal because they have an even shittier baby form

>>30130617
>Not growing up with hoenn
Fast engine, attractive sprites, excellent regional Dex. It wasn't perfect but it was pretty fucking good.

>>30129970
Only mistake is not typing Sunflora grass/fire.
Design is on point imo.

>>30130627
If a newly hatched caterpillar can breed, a baby rat should be able to. The system sucks

>>30130653
Most games after Gen II had attractive sprites, I wouldn't really call that a benefit. If anything Hoenn looked really lazy for the GBA, FRLG was a huge improvement

>>30130627
>Lanturn is good
>Eelectross is bad
Christ, I can only imagine what it is like to live with opinions this bad.

>>30130632
the only baby mon that is really bad is igglybuff but that's only because the rest of the line is so shitty too. the whole line needs a buff, really.

can't think of any other mon you might think would be "decent" in lc. chansey and pikachu are obviously broken, so is marill thanks to huge power, so is clefairy, roselia, electabuzz, magmar and togetic.

>>30130543
You have to be 18+to post here, scamp

>>30129918
You just posted the epitome of your point, anon.

>>30130698
>a qt looking friendly fish is good
>a fucking ugly shitmon is bad
yes and rain falls down, tell me more my good friend

>>30130382
Yeah, but bar gothitelle, the gen 5 ones are better.

>>30130439
>Spend 5 minutes maxing happiness
>Shit taste
>Spen 5 minutes maxing happiness

>>30130526
>Two identical looking single stage bovine pokemon that have the exact same role and movesets should not exist
That is correct
Boufallant is LITERALLY Tauros with an afro. At least Alolan Diglett changed color slightly.

>>30130766
truth. even the three headed mon (vanilluxe) looks better than most gen 1 three headed mons which are just copipastas of their pre-evolutions (with the exception of dodrio)

>>30130439
>keeps you from getting good Pokemon right away

Same person who transfers and uses Ass-frog on the first trial

>>30130766
Neck yourself fag.

>>30130739
>using ugly as an insult when describing a monster
a monster collecting franchise probably isn't for you

>>30130739
>this shallow standard of beauty

>>30130618
Nice deflection, faggot, Gen 2 had no bad designs and Gen 3 had around 100.

>>30130605
that's one more good design than gen 2 ;)

>>30130810
i don't even know what this post is supposed to mean... seriously? most pokemon look good, derpy, cute, cool or whatever. but none except eelektross look that fucking ugly. sorry if your cognitive dissonance prevents you from seeing this, but pokemon is a series for kids and most pokemon look good because of that.

>>30130840
even the creators said themselves eelektross is made to look ugly.

>>30130766
Heres one (You)

>>30130844
I love Gen II but Qwilfish exists

>>30130884
>>30130808
genwunners LEAVE

>>30130892
qwilfish looks pretty good tho. it's a blowfish that references naval mines. i love that mon. even in playthroughs it's great. a shame it was so bad in gen 2, but hg/ss really fixed it.

>>30130875
Maybe if you weren't a poor sad piss baby who cries whenever he sees a scary monster, you'll learn to appreciate pokemon like Eelectross.
Here's you're (you), baby-boy. ;)

>>30130870
Hitmontop, Scizor, Heracross, Lanturn, Ampharos, Mantine, Sudowoodo, Steelix, Gligar, Yanma, all three starters, Entei, Raikou, Suicune, Ho-Oh, Lugia, Xatu, Unown, Delibird, Kingdra, Foretress, Tyranitar, Granbull, Jumpluff, Donphan, Ursaring, Skarmory, Sneasel, Misdreavus, Houndoom, Magcargo, and Blissey beg to differ

>>30130941
eelektross isn't scary, it's just disgusting.
here's your (you), unovabortion edgefag (probably an underaged too)

>>30130844
Quilfish, delibird, piloswine, and all the fucking babies except togepi say otherwise.

>>30130980
who the fuck hates piloswine? i get you guys are hoennbabies so you hate baby pokemon for some reason but seriously it's a derpy boar how can anyone hate it

>>30130935
Genwunners don't even exist anymore.
Hoennbabbies are the new genwunners, "people" who were in elementary shool when Ruby/Sapphire came out and had never played a Pokemon gane before.

>>30130979
>it's just disgusting
Just like a real life lamprey, so it's done a good job, unlike Lanturn.

>unovabortion edgefag (probably an underaged too)
Don't forget to add *tips fedora* and casual while you try to fit in as many buzzwords as you can.

>>30131046
it doesn't matter what the name is, gen 1 defenders will always exist forever
gf seems to like to breed new ones

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>>30130977
not only is that list small as fuck, but it's padded to hell

>gen2fags

face it, it it wasn't for D/P your gen's designs would be a joke

>>30130382
I still think Tauros should evolve into Bouffalant.

>>30131081
>Just like a real life lamprey, so it's done a good job, unlike Lanturn.
>pokemon should be 100% realistic
lol no
you can go watch your anime now
>'he said le buzzword!'
i like how you don't even put much effort into thinking lol

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>>30130935
>>30131046
"Genwun" was a myth. Normalshits that nobody really payed attention to. Johtoddlers were the real problem from the getgo and always the first to start shit.
>muh first game can't possibly be bad
>muh shitty tumor region with a gimped pokedex was the best
>genwunner, hoennbaby

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>>30131108
>tfw that list is pretty much the entire dex

>>30131129
except there's no such thing as a johtotoddler. that's really just people who started with gen 1 and kept playing pokemon. who came to realize gen 1 wasn't that good as they once thought and that gen 3 wasn't that good either (and kinda tiresome to play). i like all gens 2bh tho but i do think gen 2 was a peak that will never again repeat itself. no other game actually made you battle yourself.

>>30131129
Univabortions have shit on gens 1-7 more in the past 5 years more than these genwunners have in the last 20. I guess children are really vocal about things they like.

>>30131123
>>pokemon should be 100% realistic
No but they should at least try to appeal to fans of what they're based on.
I like lampreys, so I'm happy that the lamprey pokemon at least has the features of a lamprey that I like.
I also like anglerfish. Unfortunately Lanturn lacks just about everything that makes and anglerfish and anglerfish other than its angler. It does not appeal to people that like anglerfish at all and makes it bad for people who would like to see an actual anglerfish pokemon and will likely never see one.

It's okay to like Lanturn, and not like Eelectross. People have different opinions. There is no objective truth behind good monster designs.

>>30131018
I think it's disgusting. It's my least favourite Pokemon.

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>Gen 2 has no bad designs
Sure, I'm definetly in love with Sudowoodo or Quilfish or Grandbull. And it doesn't help many would've been still been trash haven't they gotten evolutions in Gen 4. There are reasons why I dislike Gen 2 and Johto fags is starting to become a big one.

>>30131309
>i let my tastes be defined by what other people like or dislike
that's fucking stupid.

>>30131289
i think it's kinda weird that you like pokemon because you like specific X thing/animal and then like a pokemon that's based on it and not the reverse, but you're an okay guy

>>30131284
>I guess children are really vocal about things they like.
There's a reason I said johtofags keep starting shit. Nostalgia too strong.

>>30131331
Hard to let that when I already disliked Gen 2 to begin with. Johto fags just made things worse, similar to Unovabortions.

>>30131108
I can go on, if you'd like. Crobat, Bellossom, Ledian, Ariados, Noctowl, Furret, Piloswine, Wobbufett, Togetic, Pichu, Igglybuff, Elekid, Smeargle, Murkrow, Cleffa, Qwilfish, Porygon2, Espeon, Umbreon, Sunflora, Aipom, Slowking, Tyrouge, and Shuckle.

>Padding
You should learn the meaning of words before using them, Hoennbaby

>>30131379
>Children
>Nostalgia
Try again, underagedb&

>>30130066
If GF overcame their autism and just made them the first stage of their respective lines and if their stats made them worth using early game then they'd be alright. Most of their designs are "It got smaller" and they are literally dex filler right now.

>>30129918
>Lillyposter
>Hates Sudowoodo and Granbull
Holy crap this is why we need another World War

>>30131487
Meant for
>>30131309

>>30130627
Holy christ is this bait?

>>30131487
Wrong reply and yeah we sure do and I'm farley confident you would make it out.

>>30131487
>likes Sudowoodo and Granbull

>>30131541
what's wrong with derptree?

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>>30131309
>hating jazz hands rock tree

Eat some petrified dicks you dumb lillie-poster.

>>30131528
no why

>>30131557
Pretty stupid looking to me and I don't care for the gimmick too much.

>>30131557
>derp

END Y O U R S E L F

>>30131603
no, (you)

>>30131593
>defending the happiness system for babies
>defending babies have no purpose in a mongolion dog fighting simulator
>defending cleffa, my mom's grizzly, stantler, and "staple some swirls on that chansey"
>thinking lanturn is a good respresentation of an angler and ahtinf eelektoss

It's just a mess of terrible opinions and facebook lingo. I assumed it was bait. Consider a tripcode for future posting, please.

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>>30131541
Sudowoodo
>Amazing design, name, and cry
>Shitty stats but tries its hardest
>Gets Rock Head and STAB Head Smash


Granbull
>Best Pokemon in the game
>look at those muscles
>That strong jaw
>Those beautiful teeth
>Probably could beat up a real dog
>Man's best friend
>Is pink, not afraid to be called girly
>Fairy type
>Most likely good with kids
>would beat your ass, faggot

Granbull is a gift, please never reply to me again

>>30131773
i'm not defending the friendship system, i'm saying it's not exclusive to the babies nor is it that hard for that matter, so it's a weak argument
>no purpose
lol what does this even mean. everything has a purpose now??
>a good representation of an anglerfish
i never said that. it just looks good. as in, visually pleasing. eelektross looks beyond disgusting and its probably alone in the franchise in that regard.

sorry for your shit opinions, maybe you should get a tripcode as well ;)

>>30131863
>Sudowoodo
>A fucking rock that wants to be a tree

Granbull
>based on the ugliest dog breed in existence

Checkmate, atheists.

>>30131922
sudowoodo doesn't want to be a tree

Gens 1 all the way through to 4 have solid designs pretty much across the board.

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>>30131922
Granbull is NOT based on a pug, fuck you

And Sudowoodo IS a tree, just a really hard one that never needs to be watered

>>30131916
>not exclusive to babies
Who said that? Please show me. Because what was said is that having them evolve via happiness means that not to have gimped stage 1 you have to literally run around with this mon. With tyrunt it doesn't have 210 bst so you can use it to battle.
>lol what does this even mean. everything has a purpose now??

Tell me. What purpose do baby pokemon serve other than to add a pokedex entry? They are not worth battling with in a game FOCUSED around battling. They can't be bred with. Leveling them fucks over the next evolution stage. And most of their designs are bland at best, "it just got smaller" at worst.

So in your horrible opinion what purpose do the baby pokemon fill other than unnecessary tedium to pad out the gotta catch em all side quest.

>>30131863
My dyslexia kicked in and I thought you said Granbul could eat a real dog

>>30130605
>megaman bosses
You mean Gen 4 and 6, right?

>>30130310
>Lanturd
>good
It's a squeaky toy, not an angler. And it shits on Chinchou's cute design.

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>>30132065
>pug
>ugly
Now you faggots are stepping into my territory.

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>>30132102
It could probably do that, too

>>30130617
its better than 5,6, and 7 combined

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>>30132169
Fuck you my ex had a pug and every time she went down on me it started growling and jumping on me because it thought I was attacking her or something

>>30132093
you can use elekid, smoochum, magby, etc in battle too. even pichu can be used in battle in game. fuck, even magikarp can be used if you're not a fucking wimp baby. that's my point. complaining that it's hard to raise them is silly when there's a bunch of other stuff that's hard to raise as well. at least babies have an excuse, since they're, you know, babies.

>not worth battling
>unnecessary tedium
so are spinda, castform, delibird, pretty much every regional bug and rodent ever, chimecho, etc etc
the game is filled with "pointless" pokemon. this is not an argument for them "not to exist". pokemon don't need a point, they just need to look good. and the babies do look good. for, you know, babies.
i can not for the life of me see any sort of argument in what you're saying here.

>>30132235
Anti-baby fags are fucking retarded and know nothing about the inner mechanisms of the game. Without baby pokemon, Sudowoodo, Chansey, Electabuzz, Magmar, Snorlax, and Mr. Mime would be rare as hen's teeth.

>>30132169
pugs are fucking disgusting and that is only increased by the fact that they can barely fucking breathe.

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>>30132319
A lot of those Pokemon were intended to be rare though, some of them are overworld mons that you have to fight in order to progress like Snorlax and Sudowoodo

You're arguing a Pokemon called Lucky in Japan and needs chance to find should be easy to get a hold of. Not everything needs a 90% encounter rate

>>30129970
>I'd love a dick!

I guess technically there is a difference between some bad designs and all bad designs

>>30132559
i don't see what's so complicated in a pokemon being very rare in one particular game set in one particular region, but more common/accessible in another game set in another region
sure not everything needs a 90% encounter rate, but that's why it's so hard to raise a chansey from a happiny.

Why does every thread turn into "my favorite gen is better than your favorite gen"?

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>>30132702
Some Pokemon don't need those accessibilities. I agree that Pokemon like Magby and Elekid were a good idea in the long run, but a lot of Johto's Babies were for crap like Pikachu and Jigglypuff and are more hindrances than beneficial

Later games essentially made Babies only accessible through premature Incenses unless they were introduced in the same Gen as their evolution (Riolu) due to not wanting to retcon the breeding mechanics introduced in Gen II. Like breeding Wobbuffet still results in Wobbuffet without the Lax Incense. These feel pointless, but are kind of better in the long run

Nobody would hate Babies as much if they were able to breed. Caterpie can

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>10/10 pokes that evolve into 8/10 pokes: the generation

chikoria, totodile, chinchou, togetic, poliwhirl, aipom, murkrow, misdreavous and tediursa are all victims of this

>>30132883
I wouldn't count Togetic, Poliwhirl, Murkrow and Misdreavus because they're evolutions are cross-Gen

Most Johtomons are cross-Genners

>>30129918

Ho-oh's head crest looks goddamn stupid as shit

>>30132987
i feel like it's fair to count cross gen when talking about gen 2 and gen 4 since that's a big part of them but i get what you mean

>>30131469
This is what I meant really, forgot baby pokemon usually referred to the incense breedable shitmons. I just want more prevos for stuff, fucking Turtonator coming out of an egg fully grown is retarded

>>30132787
i just want to add that literally the only two babies that are complete shit are bonsly and igglybuff. pichu isn't exactly amazing either but it does serve the purpose of giving that line access to nasty plot. and to be fair on igglybuff and bonsly, wigglytuff and sudowoodo are already pretty shit too so it's not so much a problem of the babies themselves as it is more a problem of the whole line. the rest of the babies are either fine if not great in lc (magby, elekid, smoochum, mime jr, munchlax, cleffa, mantyke, etc.) or made it so stuff like pikachu (don't forget light ball), marill and roselia wouldn't be playable in lc, which is actually good because they would be broken there. (i hope they make a yanma baby someday too because yanma deserves to be a second stage imo.)

being unable to breed really isn't that horrible of a thing since evolving them is usually relatively easy for me but i get your point with caterpie.
can't say i hate any of their designs, they look too cute to me.

>>30130165
confirmed autist

>>30133077
confirmed can't understand sarcasm

>>30130165
sometimes i think I'm bad at pokemon, but then i see someone who actually grinds happiness on elekid before the usual point where he could capture electabuzz (evidently also before getting the electrizer) and then i feel better about myself

>>30132758
Because it is

>>30133175
elekid doesn't even evolve by happiness you dumb fuck

>>30133175
>Give it an HP up
>Give it a Soothe Bell
>Give it a berry
>Use it in one fight against a level 50 pokemon
>it evolves

You are dumb as heck my man

>>30133256
why would that matter, elekid evolves at level 30, no happiness needed

>>30130632
>I don't even get why they made some of them.
Cute factor and posible baby league. But no, pokemon autists just care about OU and Ubers so they need to introduce megas, forms and shitty gimimcks to boost because muh shonen dbz says Super Sayian God Super Sayian level 5

>>30129918
I don't like lumpy deer

>>30129937
Baby Pokemon were nothing more than a gimmick to show off breeding. They're not meant to add any value other than that.