Haven't been paying attention to Smogon or Showdown testing,

of all the non legendaries and non ultra beasts, literally only toxapex

The Tapus, UB-02 Beauty, Aegislash everywhere. A-Marowak as a check to Tapus and Aegislash,

>>30119140
Toxapex
The Tapus
Most of the UBs except for Nihilego and Guzzlord

Give to me straight.
How shit is Salazzle?
4x times resist to fairies and being able to toxic poison pokemon is so dumb I want to try.

I can't wait for end of testing.
I fucking hate all UB.

>>30119200
It'll be good in uu like heliolisk is

>>30119202

Why aren't they sending some OP UBs yo Ubers? They did it with Zygarde 100%

>>30119200
Not too bad actually.
Resttalk Zygarde completely walls it but now that it is banned there are very few pokémon that want to switch in on the toxic.

>>30119140
Tapus, most UBs except Guzzlord, Toxapex, Zygarde-Complete if you want to count that, Decidueye, Bewear.

>>30119253
>Decidueye
???

>>30119167
Everyone called me stupid when i said alolan marowak would be a great check early on in the meta

>>30119245
Pheromosa will likely go soon, but aside from it the rest aren't really broken.

How is Ash-Greninja doing?

Are people even using it?

>>30119140
Pheromosa is busted and will probably be banned
Buzzswole and Celesteela are good without being broken, same with Xurkitree and (I THINK) Kartana

Toxapex is pretty great, but I'm not sure how much of that is because it's a good answer to Pheromosa. It's a great defensive water type, though.

I've heard some great things about Minior and Araquanid

Alola Marowak is used right now as an answer to all the UBs, might be worse if Pheromosa is banned

All the Tapus are meta defining

That's mostly it for new strong OU threats I think, there's also old shitmons that were buffed like Mantine

>>30119245
because UB's arent pokemon

>>30119259
I have seen both Decidueye and Dhelmise in non-bank OU. They're trappers but easily dealt with since they have to use a move to trap.
As for pokebank OU Dugtrio outclasses them both by miles when it comes to trapping capability.

>>30119317
You can use dugtrio?

Is that big ass bug samurai good?

>>30119270
who?

>>30119171
Nihilego sees play. Definitely viable and could be bottom-OU when tiers flesh out.

>>30119259
careful decidueye is actually quite good in OU, because it's one of the few things that landorus-i can't beat.

>>30119344
Not in non-bank.
You can only use Alolan Dugtrio there, which comes without Arena Trap and thus is shit.

>>30119253
>Bewear

????

It's still early days and things won't really take shape for a few months, as with all gens.

>>30119421
Bewear is actually pretty bulky with fluffy and hits plenty hard.

>>30119368
Golisopod? He's okay
Probably won't stay OU but will be viable there

>>30119397
You can use non alolan dugtrio lmao you give it an everstone and the kid turns into regular dugtrio

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>>30119371
Him.

>>30119200
Not at all
My fucking team got swept and she was the last one I had and she fucking killed it by sweeping the dude's four remaining pokemon, one of them being a toxapex
She is the fucking goddess of war

>>30119140
Toxapex is the best because it has the optimal synergy with Ferrothorn, so anyone can fit him in easily. It has the best defensive typing, best ability and all the moves needed for a stall mon.

Koko, Lele, Pheromosa, Celesteela, Zygarde

Things that are low OU:
The other UBs, A-Marowak, Bulu, and Fini.

Pelipper is common, Mantine somewhat.

Porygon-Z is the only good Z-move user.

>>30119253
What's bad about guzzlord?

>>30119550
no fire power, no recovery, no bulk without AV, fairy bait, slow

>>30119462
No, the parent holding the everstone has to be non-alolan too. Which is currently unavailable in gen VII.

Is there much of a UU community on /vp/?

>>30119594
give it time. OU needs to be understood first before we get tired of it.

>>30119140

Hm... How long will last the beta test?

>>30119462
You clearly don't know what you're talking about.

>>30119614
Hmm, surely a month it will, if not more.

>>30119245
The only one truly deserving of ascending to uber is Pheromosa, and it will be soon. And I don't understand why, it's really easy to check.

People who play pokemon competitively are autistic.

Play an actual fighting game or something for your competitive drive, not this autistic dogshit.

>>30119687
clearly you haven't played a fighting game at any high level competition.

>>30119687
Go cry to another place. Only adults are allowed to talk here.

>>30119687
I think you might be on the wrong board.

>>30119676
Because it's an offense mon. It is acceptable for offensive teams to be forced to run specific checks aganst pokemon like Mega Sableye and Toxapek, but forcing wall teams to run checks against offensive mons/baton pass setups is considered unacceptable.

>>30119687
enjoy your minimum wage, average joe

>>30119264
>Gyarados gives 0 fucks and gets a free dragon dance
>walled by spooky sword
>bulky Scizor can beat it 1v1 and force it out because of bullet punch
>Toxapex
There are plenty of options. You just have to look

I really hope Celesteela gets sent to Ubers, otherwise I'll have to wait to enjoy the healthy non-stall meta of UU in a few months. Stall play is so boring this gen.

>>30119676
stall doesn't care

balance somewhat can deal with it.

hyper offense doesn't have too many answers other than scarf dugtrio, in which case pheromosa is scarfed. So it's heavily limiting playstyle diversity.

>>30119294

Xurkitree and Kartana are stupid as fuck, it's just people are being dumb and using them with boosting moves instead of slapping on a Choice item so they can pull off mid-game sweeps.

>>30119835
>scarf xurkitree is shit
>I have never seen a successful tail glow sweep
>No one uses choice specs, and I don't understand why

Scarf Kartana is cool
Band Kartana is brutal
Everyone run swords dance and all swords dance turn 1.

>>30119294
I have no idea why people aren't using Xurkitree in rain. Basically nothing can survive Thunder after one Beast Boost

>>30119835
Scarfed Xurkitree is common as fuck, I see more of them that Psychicium Xurkitree.

Kartana s good with band though.

>>30119922
Why use that when you have Tapu Koko who hits compatibly hard, has better resistances towards rain checks like Latios, has alternative STAB, and is perfectly fucnctional outside of the rain?

>>30119922

A-Marowak can.

>>30119959
Tapu Koko can mess with hydration rest Goodra. 1 of the few reasons to use Xurkitree over Koko

>>30119676
Smogonfags are retarded and can't deal with a poor's man paper made deoxys, more news at eleven.

>>30119140
Well for my experience, this has been the situation
>Decidueye
Not bad at all, it has been surprisingly tanky without me actually making it tanky, good late game sweeper and mid game trapper, counters dhelmise easily too
>Primarina
I actually had high hopes for this thing especially since its stats were a budget milotic, But HOLY FUCK THIS THING CAN'T SURVIVE SHIT, I'm not sure if it's just me not knowing the right set or something, but fuuuuuck does it die so fucking quickly, don't get me wrong it hits harder than a motherfucker, but the second it gets touched it dies immediately
>Inceniroar
Has been way tankier than i thought it would be, it's actually sort of good, only issue is slow as fucking dirt so it doesn't get to do much before it gets set up on and destroyed
>Dhelmise
Have yet to personally figure out how it can work, but hasn't been doing so hot
Might be poor sets, but decidueye has been doing better from what i've seen
>Toucannon
Holy shit this thing is actually good, Beak blast is fucking beastly and hits fucking hard as hell, Weirdly tanky too
>Salazzle
A Goddess of fucking war, one nasty plot allows it to fucking annihilate most threats, including UBs, can even fuck over toxapex with toxic, but dies super fucking quick, so mid to late game set up sweeps is preferred for it
>Ass Grenigger
I personally said this was gonna suck fucking dick and now that is has been tested, i just need to get this off my chest... i was FUCKING RIGHT
>Toxapex
You know you're playing a fucking broken piece of shit when you make a life orb user kill themselves by just breathing
Holy fucking hell is this thing unkillable or what?
>Golisopod
The Unkillable Brute, Golisopod destroys Jobber Frog in one hit, and tears apart everything else while just walling the fuck out of them
It's actually pretty funny, The only way to deal with it is through setting up or using weaknesses, which golisopod can take advantage of still

>>30119262
idiot

>>30120335
faggot

>>30119742
Fuck off. Stall has no problem with Pheromosa. It'll be banned because it wrecks Offense.

Maybe actually play the format before you shit on it without even understanding how it works?

>>30120090
>an hero
>>>/b/

>>30119926
>>30119889
Why would you choice a Kartana?
>low bp stabs
>best neutral attack is Return
>good coverage
>not using it as LO all out of attacker
SD is only thrown in to break walls easier.
LO variant outclasses Band, Scarf is somewhat decent I guess

>>30120090
>tiers based on usage
>bad

>>30120355
retard

>>30119200
She'll probably be UU, but that 117 speed works wonders. Certainly OU viable. She is frail as fuck, though, so consider focus sash.

>>30119167
A Marrowak also checks Xircuitree, Mega Mawile, and Kartana. It can also can't be trapped by Dugtrio.

A-Marrowak was definitely an underrated mon at first.

>>30120190
I believe that's because dhelmise and Decidueye server two different roles all-together. One's good at Spinning and Anti-spinning, while the other is a viable utility. Both are alright for their own niche's

>>30121250

Yeah, this. People were quick to shit on Decidueye for being "outclassed" but really they serve very different roles. Decidueye is more versatile and able to help the team in a variety of different ways. Dhelmise was made for things like Band or AssVest.

>>30119390
>a Pokemon is viable just because it counters another one

Kek, stay in denial, rowletcuck.

>>30122238

There are a lot of pokemon like that though.

>>30120767
I'm glad things turned out well for it. I still wanted it to get a speed buff, but checking a lot of the early gen OU threats is great.

>>30119522
A-Persian is good for Z-parting shot. A-Ninetales is useful for Aurora Veil.

Topakex ban now. Its broken like AGIESLASH OMG NOT AGAIN THIS FUCKING THING LEARN YOUR LESSON SMOGON BACK TO UBER WITH YOU REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>30119756
>Alolan Marowak eats Pherosma for dinner too

Are ANY of the new pokemon besides Toxipek and the UBs/Tapus viable for OU?

>>30122660
A-Marowak is pretty good atm although idk if it will stay relevant once a certian sword gets the boot.

>>30119769
Celesteela is literally a shittier Skarm without reliable recovery or hazard control why do people use it for stall? I can see it as a bulky attacker but as stall staple? No way.

>>30122660
Mimikyuu, A-Marowak, Bewear possibly, Ninetales might have a niche with Aurora Veil, A-Persian is a good support mon, all the Tapu are good, Incineroar might have a use in the tier when intimidate is legal since it gets a lot of useful moves, Ribombee and Salazzle both are viable boosting sweepers, Alolan Raichu does work on a rain/e. Terrain team. Minior is a fairly good Shell Smash user. Araquanid can hit like a truck

>>30119270
I'm using it. it's a very good late game cleaner/sweeper.

>>30119522
>bulu low OU

Maybe because of the sword right now. it's going to be fucking horrifyingly good if they ban the sword again (which i hope not)

>Porygon-Z is the only Z-Move user

not really desu

>>30122744
Considering the sword outspeeds him once the sword leaves Marowak will likely stay to check stuff.
>>30119390
Landorus can beat it with ease.
4 Atk Life Orb Landorus Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Decidueye: 190-226 (52.7 - 62.7%) -- 99.6% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
252+ SpA Life Orb Landorus Hidden Power Ice vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Decidueye: 174-205 (48.3 - 56.9%) -- 40.2% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

>>30122898

Bewear will become incredibly viable once they introduce Move Tutors so it can get Drain Punch and become an indestructible physical wall.

Ribombee is really more of a Doubles mon, I think.

If they had given Crabominable Ice Shard it might have seen OU usage with Hyper Cutter to fuck over Lando-T.

>>30122660
Araquanid works as a "similar but different" Azumarill.

>>30120190
You were wrong about Ash-Greninja, but probably another fucktard who thought Zygarde would be shit.


>keep reading
>golisopodfag

oh, so you are the same faggot from before. never mind.

Dhelmise @ Assault Vest
Ability: Steelworker
EVs: 132 HP / 212 Atk / 164 SpD
Careful Nature
- Phantom Force
- Anchor Shot
- Power Whip
- Rapid Spin
Is this a good spread/set for this guy?

is talonflame now PU or NU?

>>30123307
Turkish Beauty Model keeps it on OU for now.
A good Brave Bird, even if it's the only one you'll get, can save your ass from a sweep.

>>30123235
What's the point of Anchor Shot if you're not abusing the trapping effect?

>>30122238
This is exactly how meta games work

>>30122885
It has the option for special moves and has access to Leech Seed.

>>30123367
So I guess gyro ball with a speed lowering nature and 0IVS is the way to go?

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>>30122238
>He goes online and makes fun of peoples' choices in a video game

>>30120422
>shit is banned because smogon loves stall!
>shit is banned because smogon loves HO!

>>30123307
Talonflame will be great in RU assuming it drops there in the first place.

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>>30120767
Am I fucking stupid, that I just now noticed Xircuitree is Circuit Tree?
I feel like a retard.

>>30122238
h-have you ever been a part of a metagame?
>being this thick

>>30120455
because it's very easy to switch -in say scarf genesect on the swords dance and flamethrower.

It's spedef is so low, that any scarfer with a special move can come it and kill it on the SD

>>30123753
Its circuitry not Circuit Tree you fucking tard

>>30119140
I haven't heard much either but I heard Toxapex might be a good contender.

I looked at its stats and I can see why. Huge defenses, a special Protect that poisons contact attackers, self recovery... looks like it can wall a good amount of stuff.

>>30123904
it's both you retard

>>30123021
I agree knock off can

but,

252+ SpA Life Orb Landorus Hidden Power Ice vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Decidueye: 138-164 (38.3 - 45.5%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery

252+ SpA Life Orb Sheer Force Landorus Sludge Wave vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Decidueye: 142-168 (39.4 - 46.6%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery

>>30123753
Oh, you are a retard, anon, there's no doubt about that.

>>30119443
>Torkoal used Fire Spin!

>>30123932
Toxapex will absolutely be an OU staple

>>30124706

It also has DISGUSTING synergy with Ferrothorn.

>>30123946
Yeah but Lando commonly carries Knock off to deal with pink egg.
Unless that suddenly changed then yeah Decidueye is good vs it.

>>30124787
>Yeah but Lando commonly carries Knock off to deal with pink egg.
>Unless that suddenly changed then yeah Decidueye is good vs it.

Not really. The reason being, chansey isn't as common as the tapus. But it absoluetely needs hidden power ice. And A landorus without rock polish/calm mind is very underwhelming. So you only have Earth power which doesn't receive recoil. Recoil from the other moves can be stalled out.

>>30119140
Thoughts on Silvally?

>>30119140
>banned (or are very likely going to be): Pheromosa, Zygarde-100%, Tapu Lele
>really good: Toxapex, Kartana, Tapu Koko, Tapu Bulu
>good: Xurkitree, Buzzwole, Tapu Fini, Bewear, Ash-Greninja, Alolan Marowak
>meh/haven't seen much of: the rest

Haven't played too much admittedly (busy with work) but this is based off of what I have played + what I hear people saying

>>30122238

You do know this was literally Magneton/Magnezone for All of Gen 3 and 4, right?

>>30122624

Yeah, but then that means you have to use Alolan Marowak in OU.

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>>30122238
>he thinks this isn't a thing
Decidueye probably won't be a staple of OU, but it's certainly got enough going for it to carry it through as a decent mon. Especially if it counters the most annoying Genie

>>30128557
No one's forcing you to play OU autismo.

>>30128557
>Sheep
anti-smogonfags are the weirdest, most self-righteous idiots. People play using Smogon's rules because they like them. It's not a conspiracy or whatever

>>30126703
>Tapu Lele
I keep seeing that Tapu Lele is going to be banned, but I can't understand why. I haven't been paying attention to the meta for Sun/Moon, but what sets this thing apart from Mega Gardevoir. I get that it doesn't take up a Mega slot, but I'm not seeing how it's better than M-Gardevoir at all.

So how is my bro gumshoos?

>>30129080
Psychic terrain blocks priority and boosts her Psyshock to the point where it can 2HKO Chansey, and her typing and coverage are good enough so nothing can really switch into her.

>>30130005

>>30130144

She also easily slays Ferrothorn and Scizor with HP Fire if they switch in, just because her Sp.Atk is that high. I love it and hate it.

>>30119202
Only Pheromosa will be banned.

>>30122238
what is literally half of the meta, lmao.

>>30126703
Zygarde 100% was already banned.

>>30128671
>hard counters several of the biggest threats in the meta
>lol its not viable becus it suxxx

>>30129080
Psychic damage boost on psychic terrain makes her retarded in singles.

>>30130005
Dogshit.

tapu lele is genuinely the most retarded choiced pokemon of all time, i have no idea why this thing is allowed to exist

>>30120190
have you tried in sending in primarina on a free switch or in a special attacker

I dont think its a high ou threat but its bulky for the amount of damage it does

>>30130490
gamefreak literally doesn't think when making pokemon. They just do whatever and let the chips fall where they may.

How's Araquanid? Surely Life Orb Liquidate kills damn near everything

>>30130005
Well
It still isn't the worst regional rodent
But its definitely a close 2nd for worst regional rodent

>>30119140
Mudsdale eat your land and poop a mud
gg no re

>>30131045
there are a lot of pokemon that resist water anon. and the shitty spider is useless when it faces something that laughs at water attacks

it's a poor man's azumarill, wait for pokebank and use that instead

>>30119371
Not Delphox, fucking furfag.

>>30131045
It's a better doubles mon and even it's good, but not great.

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>Looking through some gen 7 OU battles
>Watch someone forfeit the moment his opponent brought out toxapex
>Watch a battle between two teams of tapus and UBs, only lasted about 20 turns because everyone was being one shot
I see a healthy meta in the future

>they didn't drop deoxys
Have they finally learned?

>>30133420
sorry i haven't been paying attention since gen 5

why is deoxys-s ubers again?

>>30128671
And it can pull its weight. It's not a meta defining threat. It's a great Anti-meta Pokemon like Mamoswine through the past few gens. It does enough damage to threaten a majority of switch ins. Has to really good STABs and can come in on fighting and electric moves with impunity and considering the power of Pherosma, Buzzwole, Tapu Koko and Xurkitree that's a great feature to have.

Tsareena is BL as fuck. Z splash + 3 attacks is a beast mode late game cleaner. If it somehow survives, I'm maining whatever tier its in.

Ash ninja is the same way. People keep sleeping on it cause "muh protein" and then they get swept. Hopefully it gets tiered separately from regular grenigger so it can stay ou

Alolan sandslash wrecks shit. At plus 2 it even fucks toxipex

>>30133520
because it's a retarded lead that can fullfil multiple roles and aid both stall or hyper offense by laying a layer of stealth rock/spikes everytime it safely enters the field

he's like Deoxys-D but worse

>>30133769
i thought suicide leads were ded due to team preview? or at least not in vogue anymore

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>>30119140
People actually still pay attention to Smogon and Showdown? Kek.

>>30133828
it's like a train crash
you can see it but you can't prevent it

the good deoxys-s players put ways to deal with counters on it (Magic Coat to bounce back hazards, sometimes they put Mental Herb to save themselves from a Taunt, etc)

>>30133828
Suicide leads were dead because you could counterlead with something to step them.

Deos are so good at the suicide lead nothing can really stop them. You could get hazards up, para something, and occasionally kill something with a single suicide lead. Deo leads were followed up with a team too offensive for any team to get a free turn to Defog or Spin. They enabled extreme HO teams that are impossible otherwise.

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>>30130005
You tell me.

>>30133899
>People still play Pokemon online?

>>30134049
>implying smogshit is worth going by.

>>30134012
>They enabled extreme HO teams that are impossible otherwise
That was the most fun I ever had in OU. I need to find a way to make it work in ubers

>>30134095
Provide us with an option to Showdown which costs exactly the same, is exactly as easy to use and gets updated exactly as often then.

>>30134095
>look at me mom! I'm so contrarian!

>>30133899
>people still pay attention to the most-used pokemon simulator?
>people still pay attention to the administrators and ruleset of the most popular server by a country mile on said simulator?

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>>30134139
>>30134146
>>30134154
Butthurt elitests detected.

>>30134210
here is your (you)

>>30134210
Enjoy your Battle Spot.

>>30134013
>gumshoos is rippping shit up ingame because it hits like a truck and is reasonably bulky
>stats are actually ass
f-fuck

Is hipster jihad pixie good? It's quickly become a contender for one of my favorite bugs, and it's faster than basically anything I've encountered.

Also, I haven't gotten Type: Null yet, but how good is Silvally?

>>30122660
Araquanid
Mimikyu
Minior
A-Marowak
Golisopod is a Pokémon that is viable in OU, but will be UU.

>>30119522
>Porygon-Z is the only good Z-move user.
weak effort, a lot of pokemon that don't need items or use odd coverage nukes have really good z-moves, then there's the ton of stat z moves that are good.

Z-parting shot is always a good move, Memento similarly, but not as much.
Manaphy is good with a Z-move
I heard heatran used power herb solar beam for coverage, so a Grassium is just a straight upgrade.

While less 'good', Pyukumuku can baton pass Z-purify buffs, smeargle can baton pass z-geomancy buffs, Splash is not terrible, if it can be abused.

People just need to put in the leg work to see what works, game's only been out a week.

>>30134640
>Manaphy is good with a Z-move
Explain

>>30134683
waterium Z allows the choice of a speed boost from rain dance which sets up hydration, or can be used for your STAB nuke.

Fairly versatile, considering you really only used leftovers anyway.

On the whole, it boils down to the fact that Manaphy didn't really need an item, can use Waterium in multiple ways and gets a ton of use from the one-off.

>>30134683
>>30134875
In the same vein, pokemon that have little need for an item and similar two same-type attacks, one being a favourable z-status move get good Z-move usage.

I'm thinking A-ninetales can get a good aurora veil, but clay might be better.

Z-hypnosis has 100% accuracy and gives a speed boost too, same with sleep powder & sing, etc.

>>30135093
I think that everyone that could understand why Z-Conversion is good can see why some status moves and boosts with the Z-Boost become amazing

such a shame Calm Mind gets the shittiest z-boost

>>30120767
>checks mawile

Mawile used Knock Off! Marowak fainted!

>>30135351
People are running A-Marowak with speed investments to allow it to check specific slow tanks or such, Mawile M being one.

>>30135093
I thought Z-status moves didn't get an accuracy boost?

Has aegislash been quickbanned yet? Or are they going to actually suspect test it first?

>>30136025

I imagine they will debate it, otherwise ubers is going to be 30+ pokemon not counting different forms.

Is Mega Ray still predicted to remain in AG or will the possible new Ubers this gen be enough to move it down?

>>30137213
Nothing powercreeped the uber tier this gen so I doubt it will drop.

>>30131045
Worse Azumarill t b h, but will probably be solid in UU. It's Leech Life isn't very strong unfortunately

How's the sandcastle?

>>30137213

Z-crystals might do something,

Zygard complete can wall certain sets, coil straight up beats dragons dance. Rayquaze would need to run outrage/icebeam/draco meteor, but then it probably gets walled by aegisslash.

>>30138332
It has no place in OU it could be a good stallmon in UU

All this Decidueye talk got me curious

What's a good set to run for it?

>>30134533
>Also, I haven't gotten Type: Null yet, but how good is Silvally?
Eh. It has average stats in everything and learns nothing but generic ~90 power moves. It will see some RU play to fill in assorted holes but it's not even close to exciting.

>>30140473
It does, however, get every relevant 90 power special move except for dark pulse.
It also gets parting shot.

>>30119313
End this meme. They are confirmed to be Pokemon.

>>30119594
I main uu

>>30125490
Anyone? Is it any good?

>>30141178
See >>30140473 and >>30140816
Z-Parting Shot isn't all that lousy either.

>>30141178
>>30125490
It's okay, but it lacks a diverse movepool to make use of its balanced but great stats. The Memories don't boost STAB like Arceus's plates do and Silvally itself lacks reliable recovery and Calm Mind. If it had the latter two, it would be played very different outside of Parting Shot or Swords Dance sets.

Definitely not the legendary threat it was hyped to be in-game.

>>30141372
>>30141335
Well damn. I was looking forward to using it in the regular tiers. A shame since I actually like its design and concept a lot.

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>>30141372
>The Memories don't boost STAB like Arceus's plates do

Wait that can't be--

>look it up
>it's true

WHAT THE FUCK ARE THEY THINKING

>>30120190
>Thinks Decidueye is tanky
>Thinks Primarina is made of paper

Are you sure you're not just retarded?

>>30142891
Dumb Aobaposter

>>30135556
>implying max speed mawile wasnt standard in XY

wew!

>>30135093
>Z-hypnosis has 100% accuracy
nice meme