Niantic dun fucked up with the rebalance edition
Database:
http://pokemongo.gamepress.gg/
http://www.pokemongodb.net/
>Server down?
http://www.mmoserverstatus.com/pokemon_go
>Is it worth evolving X?
http://pogotoolkit.com/
>Some questions answered:
http://pastebin.com/spEFYmPw
>Pokemon strengths and earning XP:
https://thesilphroad.com/research
>Pokemon moves DPS:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12Ehw3J3-Dkc2yc2zeBE5XQRO_dCBYzpFyTvsvOye2Yg/
>Website scanner maps (no login required just don't use your exact address)
http://pokesear.ch (anon made and maintained - currently WORKING but under huge stress)
http://pokehuntr.com - PokeHuntr
>App scanners
https://www.pokemesh.com/ - Pokemesh
https://github.com/PokeAlert/PokeAlert/releases/ - Poke Alert
http://pokemapgo.xyz - PokeMapGo
>IV checker:
https://pokeassistant.com/main/ivcalculator
https://pokemongo.gamepress.gg/pokemongo-iv-calculator (easy and more accurate)
>best mon per type
http://pokemongo.gamepress.gg/highest-pokemon-dps-per-type
>best movesets
http://www.pokemongodb.net/
http://www.pogomoves.com/index.php
>best attackers for specific mon
https://pokeassistant.com/main/index?locale=en
Old thread: >>30065400
What are you fucking autists doing still playing this ridiculous phone game?
Just an estimate on what I remember from my pokemons CP
>dragonite went up 76 CP
>gyarados went up 500 CP
>snorlax went up 250 CP
>vaporeon went up 300 CP
>gengar went up 500 CP
>charizard went up 50 CP
>flareon went up 200 CP
>jolteon went up 400 CP
>golem went up 600 CP
>alakazam went up 600 CP
>rhyhorn went up 500CP
>jinx went up 700 CP
>cloyster went up 250 CP
>starmie went up 200 CP
>tangela went up 600 CP
>kingler went up 300 CP
>hitmonlee went up 500 CP
>hitmonchan went up 500 CP
>omastar went up 200 CP
>machop went up 100 CP
>chansey went up 300 CP
>pidgeot went down 50 CP
>hypno went down 100 CP
>golduck went down 200 CP
>blastoise wnet down 150 CP
>victrebeel went down 250 CP
>exeggcutor went down 50 CP
>poliwrath went down 180 CP
>vileplume went down 150 CP
>>30096166
Getting angry about nerfs to Wigglytuff
>>30096119
THEY NERFED POLIWRATH
He was the only thing keeping me going. It's all over
>>30096166
>Yuropoor
>SM still isn't out
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
also it's a fun little game to play on the go
My Seadra jumped up about 200 CP
YOU KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS
SOON
>>30096196
Yeah some of the nerfs were uncalled for, I'm bawling over my Dewgong, I mean it was already fairly underpowered at 1800 CP and now it's at 1500? The fuck?
Check 'em
We PSYCHE now
>>30096166
I'm waiting for Black Friday and the 3DS sale
...They nerfed Magikarp
...why?
Eevee was nerfed too but all the Eevelutions were buffed lol
>>30096299
Dude nice, that's the only trademon I don't have, but all the ones I do have just went up massive amounts and it's great
>>30096178
what does this mean
>>30096398
that my dragonite was 3003 and now is 3079 and my gyarados was 2299 and now is 2799
you get the gist
>>30096299
double dubs on the mon and dubs on the post
>>30096340
Gyarados got a major ass buff though
So this is what's happening, a rebalance. I wake up this morning with my fave 1400 Sandslash and now he's almost 1900. Can't really explain my excitement, thought it was some bug that leveled my mons like crazy. I'm happy with this, not just him but other favorite mons went up a lot. Didn't get cucked on this one.
I have some usable Jolteon now. And a Gengar wtf. Lost Nidoqueen and Victreebel though
>>30096299
>dubs on the post
>dubs dubs on the mon's CP
>screenshot at 20:44
PRAISE ALAKAZAM THE NEW PROPHET OF KEK
Do IV Calculators still work with this new update or are things going to take a moment to readjust?
going through my pokedex
>starters all got nerfed
>insects buffed
>pidgey nerfed
>rat buffed
>fearow buff
>arbok nerf
>pika buff
>nidos nerf
>ninetales nerf
>fairy nerf
>bat nerf
>smonk nerf
>parasect nerf
>slight buff for niglett
>cat nerfed
>duck idk
>mankey idk
>RK9 nerf
>Polibro nerf REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEee
>spoons buff
>manlet buff
>fleshlightplant nerf
>hentai buff
>geodude buff HELL YEAH
>horse&retard are about the same
>magneton buff
>dodrio idk
>dewgong nerf
>grimer idk
>cloyster buff
>gastly buff
>onyx buff
>hypno nerf
>krab buff, still shit
>polandball buff
>eggman idk
>cubone idk
>hitmon buff
>koffing idk
>rhydon buff
>chansey buff
>tangela buff
>seadra buff HELL YEAH
>seaking buff, still shit
>starmie buff
>scyther buff
>jynx buff
>electabuzz seems the same
>pinsir buff
>gyarados buff
>eeveelutions buff
>porygon nerf
>fossils buff
>snorlax buff
>dragonite idk
>>30096299
Do I do it?
I noticed magikarp got nerf so it's evolution multiplier got huuuuuuge.
Jolteon and magnets are viable Lapras slayers now
I can't won't get over poliwrath and blastoise nerf
HOLY SHIT some of my Pokémon got their CP buffed without me touching them.
My 2200CP Snorlax is now 2400. My 2008 is now 2200.
My fucking Rhydon went from 1200 to 1900. kek
Is it too eager to say this is in preparation for gen2?
rip vileplume :((
WHAT IS HAPPENING MY GENGAR WENT FROM 1700 TO 2200 WTF
>>30096556
Personally I don't understand all the love for Poliwrath, I had a nest near my house so i evolved something like 5 of them and only got 1 with Hydropump, all the others were ice punch...But I had a 2200 Blastoise, 96%, now he's 1900. That's a shame
>>30096641
>Personally I don't understand all the love for Poliwrath
>>30096637
AND MY RIZEROS FROM 1300 TO 2200 SERIOUSLY
>log in
>vaporeon, snorlax, gyarados and rhydon have the highest CP
post your new top pokemons
>>30096699
Are those graphics from a 3ds or what
>>30096608
Grassmons are dead. They want to make vaporeon water master race. Only vaporeon and gyarados (fucking single STAB)
jolteon magneton rhydon snorlax and Lapras killers
Alakazam and gengar because trainer tips Nick asked Niantic 2 months ago to boost them cause of Gameboy games and Niantic bowed down to that faggot and listened.
I can't believe I wanted all my dust on my bros
Post your level and what is your top 3 CP mon at the moment besides dragonite.
>>30096699
I'm gonna power up my gya since he's not 2222 anymore
>>30096699
>Windows phone
Wut
>>30096699
>all my Exeggutors, Nidoroyals, Polibros, Victreebells and Wigglytuffs go to shit
>but hey, my Rock Smash/Megahorn Rhydon got a 50% buff!
THANKS NIANTIC
Why nerf Pidgeot and grassmons?
>tfw no Rapidash buff
>>30096775
>Polibro is dead
>Fire Doggo is dead
>Gengar got buffed
>Jolteon got buffed
>Golem got buffed
not 100% sure how to feel
>suddenly have a 2800 gyarados
wew lad
So from what I see, pre-evo's actually have nothing to do with their full evos, seeing as some have been buffed/nerfed more than others, and some (such as Eevee) have actually been nerfed, but their full evos buffed.
From what I see out of the full evos (not doing pre-evos because they are now irrelevant due to evolution multipliers being all over the place now)
Buffed
>Charizard
>Butterfree
>Beedrill
>Raticate
>Sandshrew
>Venomoth
>Dugtrio
>Alakazam
>Machoke
>Tentacruel
>Golem
>Magneton
>Dodrio
>Cloyster (Pretty big buff)
>Gengar
>Onix
>Kingler (Fucking huge buff)
>Electrode
>Marowak
>Hitmonlads
>Rhydon (Absolutely fucking massive buff, holy shit)
>Chansea
>Seadra
>Seaking
>Starmie
>Mr. Meme
>Scyther
>Jynx (Pretty big buff)
>Electabuzz
>Pinsir
>Gyrados
>All the Eevelutions (Vaporeon is ridiculous)
>Kabutops
>Aerodactyl
>Snorlax
>Dragonite
Nerfed
>Blastoise
>Pidgeot
>Arbok
>Nidoroyals
>Clefable
>Wigglytuff
>Vileplume
>Parasect
>Golduck
>Arcanine
>Polywrath
>Victreebell (Pretty big nerf)
>Slowbro
>Dewgong (Pretty big nerf)
>Hypno
>Exeggutor
>Lickitung
>Weezing
Dunno lol
>Venusaur
>Fearow
>Raichu (I'd imagine buffed but I don't have one to verify)
>Ninetales
>Golbat
>Persian
>Primeape
>Rapidash
>Magmar
>Omastar (My Omanite went up but don't have Omastar to verify
>Non-EU Regionals
Sorry if I've missed anyone
>>30096773
I'm mad about that too. I had to walk almost 100km with an Oddish to get it as healthy as it is.
>hey guys, we should change the CP from some pokemons
>neat, which ones?
>dunno, roll a dice and whatever number you get is the pokemon number you will get buff or nerf
>how do we know which one do we buff or nerf
>throw a coin man
niantic is awesome
>>30096859
it did get buffed, mine went from 1220 to 1280
>>30096859
Fucking hell. He was my best Lapras killer.
Last night
>>30096880
My 1494 CP Wing Attack Golbat is now 1420 CP so you can mark it down as a nerf.
>caught a level 30 wigglytyff two days ago
>now she has less cp
wew lad
>>30096930
This morning
>>30096880
Magmar stayed the same or had a really small debuff.
Venasaur had a small debuff.
>>30096119
FRIENDLY REMINDER THAT THE UNDERLYING STATS WERE UNCHANGED
ONLY THE CP FORMULA WAS CHANGED
SO YOUR GRASSMONS ARE STILL GOOD
THEY JUST CAN'T GO INTO A GYM ANYMORE
>>30096598
you're correct go look at all your pre-gen 2 mons
Jynx,Magmar,Electabuzz,Chan/Lee,Wigglytuff,Clefable all got adjusted because of their first forms coming in soon.
Scyther,Onix,Porygon,Seadra,Chansey, have been adjusted too. The Slowbro nerf is in anticipation of Slowking.
>Mfw Gen 2 is our Christmas present from Niantic and it's -20c, or colder, where I live by that point in the year
What pokemon got the biggest buffs? So far gyarados, vaporeon and rhydon for me.
>>30096960
>>30096961
All starters got nerfed
>>30096948
My 1140 went down to 992
>>30096880
fearow got buffed
raichu go buffed
persian and golbat nerfed
all fossilmons got buffed
maybe make a pastebin for future threads
>>30096880
Venusaur got quite unfortunately nerfed.
I'm even more glad I bet all on Charizard
>>30096984
Alakazam and Gengar, on the order of 400 cp.
>>30096942
Yeah, some looked the same so I wasn't sure, Fearow I have no idea if it's been buffed or not, same with Rapidash (although some anon says a slight buff for the latter)
>>30096984
Kingler had a massive buff, mines went from about 1200-1300 to 1900
Rhydon's is probably the biggest though
>>30096975
They powered up Seadra lmao, Kingdra is going to rape shit
>>30096984
Jynx, Cloyster and Gengar also remarkable buffs
>Rapidash and Nintales nerfed
WHY
All of a sudden my Alakazam, Golem, Machamp, and Rhydon are plus 2000 or near. Noice.
>>30096973
>alter CP formula to encourage more gym diversity
>snorlaxes go up in CP
Niantic still hard at work I see.
Fuck, even my Abra went from 350 to 670 (something about)
did the bulbasaur line get affected
>>30097002
charizard got buffed, blastoise got nerfed, venusaur doesn't seem to have changed
>"we need to rebalance gyms gentlemen, what do we do?"
>"I know, let's increase the CP of Dragonite, Vaporeon and Snorlax as well as some mons with double water weakness, shit moves or shit HP which nobody will actually put in gyms"
>"you're a genius, let's do it"
straight from Niantic HQ
>>30096737
Alakazam and Gengar deserved to be buffed, they were two of the strongest pokemon in the first gen, not two of the weakest.
I wish Vape and Snorlax hadnt received buffs and others did in their place, but this is still not bad at all.
Also someone checked on Magneton? My Magnemite seems pretty buffed too
>>30097079
fuck you Golem's awesome
inb4 the retarded goat meme
protip:
every pokemon below 2300 cp is now considered shit tier for defending
coz your average caught in the wild not maxed out vapeshitter now has around 2400 cp
>mfw I wasted so much time and effort buffing Pidgeot, Victrebel, Arcanine(!!!), Treeman and Venusaur
I HURT MYSELF TODAY
>>30097095
I rephrase "not bad at all" to "not that bad." Some dumb choices were made. See >>30097079
>>30097119
yep, 1050->1251
>>30096880
Omastar got buffed a lot too, mine jumped from 1300 to 1900 cp
>nerfing the two broest pokemans of all, slowbreh and polibrah
i quit this game
http://pastebin.com/VNfiZgwn
http://pastebin.com/VNfiZgwn
http://pastebin.com/VNfiZgwn
Please let me know about the last few ones, some are too close to call and others I just have no idea
>>30097095
Gengar and Alakazam still don't have any movesm
>>30097126
I like Golem, but you'd have to be a fucking lunatic to put it in a gym. Any water mon will demolish it with 3/4ths of their HP left
Just did an Eeveelution. 745CP Eevee evolved into 2270CP Flareon
>>30096984
All the eeveelutions, golem, toures, gengar, a bunch of others
Rip grassmon
>>30097126
>>30097189
>2016
>STILL liking Golem
>people wasted cp on powering up plants, dogs and angry tadpoles with no mouths
AHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAH
>>30097185
You need to add the notice that the underlying stats aren't changed so that people should stop panicking that their favourite mons are useless.
>>30096749
hey i named your exeggutor :^)
Thank God Niantic, I was getting tired of seeing gyms full of Victreebels.
>All that dust buffing the treeman
Good thing I have been walking with a fucking Machop of all things. Would be really bummed if they suddenly shitted on the champs head
>my high IV, maxed out Slowbro and Polibro are now below some random shitty Omastars that I mass evolved
RRRREEEEEEEE
>>30097250
you named another anon's Exeggutor and I stole it lmao
still, thanks for the cool nickname
>>30097224
And Pidgeot.
I had one with almost 1600 CP that came down from 900.
>your lapras and treeman are below some random vaporeon you evolved
Alright who /JUST/ here?
So what's the deal, are Pokemon's actual usability changed now or did they just rejig the CP calculation so some Pokémon aren't stuck at the bottom of gyms any more.
Because in the latter case it might be beneficial for training gyms, with 'nerfed' Pokémon that perform just as well as they used to but are easier to get bonus prestige with because their CP is low.
So calculators like GoIV will take a little time to adjust to these changes? Tried to check a few recent catches and got nothing after nothing.
>>30097224
Arcanine's nerf wasn't even that bad
I had a Arcanine at 2182 that I never used because it got fucking Bulldoze, and it only went down to 2073, and that's at a very high level, so the nerf is pretty much nothing
Biggest hits were Polywrath, Victreebell and Dewgong, and Wiggler
>>30097265
>mfw
>>30097304
>So what's the deal, are Pokemon's actual usability changed now
No.
>or did they just rejig the CP calculation so some Pokémon aren't stuck at the bottom of gyms any more.
Yes.
guys my 1880 cp rhydon is now a 2900 cp rhydon
wat do halp it's too good
>>30097304
it seems like the base stats are still the same and only the CP formula changed
>>30097163
yeah this really gets me
>>30097239
wait, does it mean rhydon and golem are still useless?
>>30097224
All my dust
Rip
post yfw this """""rebalance""""""
Post dat post-rebalancing squad
Lvl 33
>>30097397
POLIBRO WAS BARELY VIABLE ALREADY
WHYYYY
HOLY SHIT WHAT
MY RHYDON HAS SUDDENLY 2582CP
Let's talk about this nigga. Ive never considered powering up one, all catches.
Also 555 krabby now 1014. At least I can delete all my hypnos now
>>30097397
>Abra and Machop Nests right next to each other in Chicago after a month of being a rhyhorn nest and I just hatched a 15/13/13 Rhyhorn this morning
>>30097286
>investing dust in pidegeot
wtf man? its so common catching a maxed out pidgey and evolving it is piss easy
>>30097417
Is Charizard worth dusting now?
pre-nerf
>>30097395
They are as useful/useless as they were before the patch, yes.
>>30097417
Pretty much just the same except the random Eeveelutions I evolved just to defend are now higher than most of my attackers lmao
Jolteon I'd use anyway but now it's superpowered
Rhydon replacing Vileplume
Offscreen there's Cloyster replacing Dewgong;_;
>>30097437
with right moveset my scyther was able to wreck treemen and hypnos, it's incredibly fast
>>30096880
Primeape got a decent buff as well.
>>30097397
my vileplume
>>30097397
All that stardust to power up Treemans will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die.
>>30097463
Wing Attack/Hurricane wonder is common? Nope.jpg
I used it to kill trees and other grassmons common in my area. I guess it has no purpose now anyway
>>30097397
>>30097395
Golem was never useless
>>30097397
>>30097541
out if 6 pidgeots i evolved two had wing attack/hurricane and two had steel wing/hurricane
fite me bub
>>30097417
Woah ur dragonite buffed to my old one, chibro >>30096196
>>30097504
Yeah should I try to make and power up a fighting machamp? Or just use dragonite for snorlax?
>>30097397
mfw rebalance
mfw I can't login
>>30096549
>>>/plebbit/
So what's changed for you /pgg/?
>suddenly fucking Rhydon
>rip plant attackers
>my nidoroyal defenders now garbage, but replaced with other shit
>most of my top mons getting even stronger thanks to most of them being Eeveelutions
>only real wasted dust was my Dewgong, but Cloyster is now just as good so whatever
>>30097490
Whoops forgot screenshot and it won't upload from onedrive, whatever
>>30097464
the only thing worth dusting now is vapeshitter
>>30097580
I have 3 too. And caught one that's an impressive with 700cp. But never caught a wonder with that moveset and high cp in the nearly 30 Pidgeot caught.
>>30097536
>level 29
>Like 4 treeman at 2500+ CP
>vaporeon now have like 2600-2750 CP
Also what's going to happen to 10km eggs? only good shit is snorlax now.
>>30097609
>rhydon and golem jumped to top 6
>two vapes got above 2600 suddenly
>a strong jolteon out of nowhere
>rip plants
Hitmonlee went from 990 to 1450CP
Also now owning a 1383CP Beedrill
Pinsir also got +300CP
Porygon still most useless fuck
>>30097614
What if they nerf Vaporeon. I'm scared to dust anything anymore
who /readyforgen2eventhoughtheyjustfuckedporygonover/ here?
>>30097698
I have 3 Horsea and 2 Scyther.
Ready like Betty Spaghetti
>yfw Kangaroos got buffed
+33% from what I can tell
>>30097740
Mr. Meme was buff too. Did the other 2 regionals got buff?
>>30097740
Nice, makes me wanna have this fucker even more
>'''rebalance'''
>they actually fucking buff Vaporeon
>a pretty fucking big buff
>they nerfed two of Vaporeon's worst enemies Eggo and Lapras
Vaporeon main here, mfw
>>30097635
AERODACTYLLL!
>>30097686
i have constantly dusted since one month after the game came out.
which is why i had 15+ gyms for the past 3 months.
>>30096119
First the Starbucks letter, now nerfs and buffs to select pokemon in preparation for Gen 2, is it happening guys?
>>30097758
taurus yes
>>30097698
i stll haven't found Porygon, did you get all those candies from eggs?
my 2000 cp tangela is gonna be the talk of the town tomorrow when i put it in the only gym that exists here
>>30097397
Finally no more arcanines on gyms.
>>30097774
I can't do that right now because I'm still lvl 26.
Got two good Flareon and Jolteon too so I'm kinda divided. Flareon seems to be the best fire type now.
>>30097819
let me quess, you gotbulldozed?
>>30097765
And Snorlax is still a problem to everyone.
Why oh why Niantic
>>30097819
jokes on you, im still putting mines in
good luck taking down my doggo
>buff pokemon that can be countered with no effort
>neat I guess this is a nice change to the met...
>buff vaporeon EVEN MORE
Holy shit how can they fuck up so badly?
>>30097819
Arcanine wasn't even that good desu
>1500 cp polandball
good lawd have mercy on us
>>30097809
yeah, I've hatched 3 now
still no lickitung though
>>30097819
fuck off fire doggo is awesome
>>30097819
Yeah, thank god now we might get just Snorlaxes, Vaporeons and Dragonites like it should have been since the start!
What does CP even do desu
>>30097908
still can't into space
>>30097856
not him but:
finally a growlithe that can battle with the best,
finally 50 candies (this bitch is rare here),
evolves - not a single fire stab........
>>30097933
it gets you in trouble
>>30096699
>>30097856
I evolved like 20 Arcanines and the 2 I kept have fangblast.
Now Arcanines will be even more embarrased against my Golems.
>>30097872
>>30097877
>>30097912
Don't know if this happens where you live but literally every gym in here had at least 5 arcanines when gyms where level 10. I started to dislike it because it's the most mainstream mon in here and every shitter I met has an arsenal of them.
>>30097932
Don't know if these changes are only for CP or mons really do have more attack but now Machamp might be good against Snorlax, Jolteon against Vape and double rock Golem against Barneynite.
Reminder that rhydon and gyarados max CP is above 3kSame for vape
ATTENTION READ THIS
CP CHANGE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH BATTLING
NOTHING
IT ONLY CHANGES IN WHICH ORDER THE POKEMONS ARE IN GYMS
HP AND IVs WASNT CHANGED SO NOW CHANGE AT ALL TO BATTLING
did my boi scyther got buffed?
>>30097973
Also happened to me friendo, so I'm not mad they nerfed him
>>30098012
it's not like they're hard to beat and they look cool
I still don't see the problem
>>30098029
it actually fucked some people over
tfw Cloyster, Jolteon and Rhydon won't be viable prestige miners anymore
>>30098001
gtfo with your czechmons
>>30098015
Eeveelutions are now the king defenders
You can just shit them out for peanuts because the latest update made Eevee's fairly common
Just a few Eevees, evolve your best one, suddenly 2000+ CP mon to stick in a gym and never worry about
>>30098045
Yes.
How's Bulbasaur and his line and Lapras?
besides the change to CP anything else happened after halloween?
>>30098066
>czech
>>30098066
>czech
now i feel rustled
>TFW sitting on 300 eevee candies because no good eevee came around lately
>>30098106
Well for starters I think my venusaur got a mini nerf or buff or just unchanged. I think my charizard got a buff, no idea about blastoise.
Lapras remains pretty much the same I think.
Sorry if it already got posted
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>>30097698
You're a prepared idiot
>FIRST STAGE MONS HAD CP REDUCED THEIR MULTIPLIER HAS BEEN INCREASED
Just look at magikarp eevee etc Porygon 2 will be beast. I can't explain scyther tho.
>>30098157
>tfw I caught a 163 cp bulbasaur yesterday
>now a 156 cp
Small nerf.
>>30098066
>czechmons
anyway I combined the picture, shit got cray cray
>>30098176
my charizard got buffed, while charmander got nerfed
evos are separate mons dude
>>30098157
blast got nerfed too. Not that it had use with all these vapes anyway
>slowbro and poliwrath nerf
>pseudo-balancing to keep normies thinking that they are doing something
never change, niantic
>>30098241
>caring about Slowbro
Have patience, the King will be arriving soon
As for Poly, yeah that sucks I'm a little mad
>2300cp exeggutor nerfed
>100% 2200cp poliwrath nerfed
>vaporeon uber buffed
>dragonite uber buffed
>shitmon leftover rhydon now one of my top mons
>spent about 20 hours walking during the last nest because it was filled with fucking exeggcute
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>30098029
what changed then?
didnt thet change stats of each pokemon?
>>30096549
My primeape got a slight(100-ish CP) boost.
>>30098306
Maybe Politoed will be the better mon
>>30098334
Nope.
Just the formula that converts the stats to CP.
It's basically a cosmetic change that changes up the gym lineups with shitmons.
It'll be only 90% vapes, snorlaxes, laprases, and dragonites. Remaining 10% will be random shitmons that'll probably disappear after a while.
>>30098306
>not caring about slowbro
nah faM slowbro was the comfiest mon in the game
>>30098365
>Just the formula that converts the stats to CP.
isn't the formula same for all mons? Why did some get higher cp, while other lost some?
I dont get it
>>30097765
As they didn't change stats, it actually means that while attacking vape with tree you get more prestige difference from 1 battle. They will behave as they were before.
Am I right or am I right?
Let me get this straight, my nerfed Dewgong will do the same against a buffed Dragonite as it would have done pre-patch when the CP was 1800 vs 3000 and not 1500 vs 3200?
And my roided up Rhydon is still just the same?
Man it's gonna be hard to keep track of who's good and who isn't now.
I wonder if pre-patch CP was closer to relating to stats compared to post-patch, like maybe Rhydon was beastly all along but no one used him enough to notice, or maybe it's the opposite and he performs poorly for a mon sitting at the top of your party
Hopefully machamp turns out useful now.
So how's your top CP list looking like?
>>30098409
We don't know. Waiting on math geeks to figure it out.
>playing since day 1
>only find a single seel
>gyms full of dragonites so I need an ice type
>walk seel around to evolve into dewgong
>walked over 120 km to get 50 candies
>evolve him yesterday
>ice shard/ icy wind
>evolved into 1393 dewgong
>gets nerfed to 921 this morning
>dragonite gets a huge buff
Thanks Niantic for ruining 3 months of effort and nerfing Slowbro right before adding Gen 2 where he evolves into Slowking.
Okay guys, i've just beaten 2300 cp snorlax with 1800 cp rhydon
it didn't do it so easly before the buff
>>30098457
>i have haunted countless seels
>every single dewgong i evolved had aqua jet
>>30098477
It's actually a stat change too? I thought it was some CP tweak to shake gyms a bit.
>>30098457
I have a beastly Dewgong that got nerfed from 1800 to 1500
But apparently CP means absolutely nothing for attackers other than Prestige, so don't worry about it
As for Slowbro, the nerf was fairly reasonable, he was by far the best middle-evo and Slowking would have been ridiculous if it kept going the same way as the system pre-patch
>ignored the abra nest two blocks from my house for three weeks due to it being a shitmon
REEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>30098455
Lmao all the shitmons I used to prestige that were dead for weeks have been healed, thanks Niantic
Fuck them for lowering my niggas Slowbro and Nidoking though
>>30098457
>Thanks Niantic for ruining 3 months of effort and nerfing Slowbro right before adding Gen 2 where he evolves into Slowking.
Anon...
>>30098456
>We don't know. Waiting on math geeks to figure it out.
so that "nothing really changed" thing is just a meme?
>>30098501
i actually allowed him to hit me with hyperbeam, and it took 2/3 of my hp. Pre-update it'd one-shot me
>>30098441
Dewgong nerf + Dragonite buff is actually pretty good for prestige farming
Ironically, Jolteon is even more cucked now
>>30098441
yes
the prestige mining meta is gonna change
>tfw my first ever dewgong got blizzard and I was stressing out over no blizzard cloyster for months
dewgong was the better dragonslayer after all
>maybe Rhydon was beastly all along
Stamina: 210
Attack 166
Defense 160
he was meh
>>30098543
I was responding to your question about why the CP varies so wildly right now, and to figure out the new formula.
The underlying stats are definitely the same.
CP has never affected battling more than gym ordering and that hasn't changed.
>>30098500
haunting pokemon is one of my hobbies too
>my perfectly balanced 900-1100 CP prestige squad is now all over the place
By any chance have they just fixed the speed stat imported from the games? All the faster mons seem to have been buffed and bulkier stuff nerfed?
>>30098457
>dewgong is still a beastly dragonkiller
>with the dnite cp buff and dewgong cp nerf he'll get more prestige for doing the same shit as before
I fail to see the problem
>>30098593
rhydon is slow af
electabuzz is veryfust, and wasnt touched
>>30098559
>Ironically, Jolteon is even more cucked now
just swap jolt and victreebel and you have new attackers/builders
>>30098593
That's what I was thinking, maybe they re-worked the whole CP system because Electric types were fucking shit
But, CP's never really affected battles anyway, seeing how a low CP Vaporeon would still have a buttfuck tonne of HP compared to other Pokemon, which is one of the reason's it's so great
CP doesn't matter, it's the stats that matter (all the stats are hidden besides HP), so nothing has really changed at all
But yeah, dunno why Rhydon got a superbuffed
>>30098593
Doesn't explain the Vape buff.
>>30098615
Fairplay, was just thought, hadn't studied my shit properly...
>>30097774
I dusted my vileplumes and victreebels since they're so common by me and everyone uses watermon
rip
>>30098674
vape buff is so that lower players (around level 20) now have a chance of putting decent mons in gyms
just saw a lvl 21 player place a 2300 vaporeemer in a gym
>>30097582
>Woah ur dragonite buffed to my old one, chibro
What lvl you at?
>Niantic change CP claiming shitmons are now viable
>doesn't actually do anything to battling
Alakazam is still shit you idiots, it's just he can now fit into a gym and not be rock bottom
>>30098790
And he still doesn't have any good moves.
Personally love the new Jolteon though... Was around 1650-1700 before...
>less palmtrees in gyms
>more flareons, rhydons and golems
POST YFW VAPOREON BROSShame about less Arcanines and more Vaporeon defenders, but still
>threads have been super slow lately, one every 22 hours
>this thread is going to last ~3
say what you will, but niantic actually made people discuss the game again
>>30098721
How is that possible? My 91% maxed out vap is 2450 and I'm level 26
>>30097932
No it just might bet some diversity.
Dragonites are still shit gym defenders, Lapras still crushes it. Vapes and Snorlax still cancel each other out
Now though, Jolteon is a killer for water if you can dodge, Pincir still has shit HP but enough CP to actually use that STAB against Eggexcuters, and Rydon OMG I powered up my breathaking HP stat wonder from 1200 CP to 1800 last week, believing you had something important in you and now I have you at 2682 with STAB. Faith in you mons is part of the game anons.
But yeah, I'm actually doing very well with this. I had been hoarding candies and mons recently waiting for the Thanksgiving event and Gen2 so it looks like it'll pay off.
>>30098853
Max attack/defense IVs probs
Here is a spreadsheet of all the CP changes
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_WS9FIGSlKVk6XAJTE3TxXIqlBPIQ5Lsx5qifE72vXY/edit#gid=0
I left this game after the ridiculous gym nerf
I can see my local gym from my house, the Nidoqueen I put in it is still at 1884, despite in my party it being down to 1770
Kinda cool I guess, so don't worry about your current gyms getting fucked up by CP changes
>Visiting a friend
>Leave, start PoGo
>Get greeted by a 1000cp+ Krabby
>check squad after capture
>Slap/Quake Rhydon is now my 2nd highest mon and it isnt even maxed out yet
>Maxed out Queen and Victreebel are now below 2k
n-nande?
so fucking glad I blew all of my fucking stardust on exeggutors and poliwraths!!!!
>>30098903
Oh they actually changed the stats
Oh Vaporeon actually did get a buff
Oh god what have they done
>>30098903
>Zapdos +7% max CP
INSTINCT WINS AGAIN
Pokemon which are already inside gyms are seen with their old CP
For example pic related has been in that gym since yesterday and it's still the same CP as before
can any1 show his Muk before and after ?
>>30098903
>barring non-final evos, the most nerfed pokemon is Ditto
>Ditto who isn't even fucking out yet
Alright then
>>30098903
>Mewtwo +15% CP buff
>Snorlax +8%
BRAVO NIANTIC
I wonder if niantic is trolling us by making certain pokémon have a higher cp but still have their normal stats
>>30098903
Kek they made Farfetch'd even worse
>>30097740
Same with this guy
This based nigga is now smiling.
>Marowak will be a good prestige miner because Rhydon and Golem will be top game
Time for some slap/quaked
what's the reasoning behind this change? seems pretty random specially the vaporeon change.
So Doube XP, Stardust for the Turkey day event.
So 10K eggs
Worth 1,000 per hatch
Worth 2,000 per hatch with lucky egg
So 4,000 per hatch during the event with lucky egg on?!
>twf having 9 10K eggs that having been saved for this
>>30098903
>Lapras is the only mon that didn't change
you can't beat perfection
>One of my favorite pokemon, Golem, got way the fuck stronger
YES
>My absolute favorite pokemon, Nidoqueen, got way weaker
NO
>>30098903
>nerf Blastoise and Venusaur
>buff Charizard
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANKE
>>30098903
Wow Rhydon is sitting at a whopping 3300 max, slightly below Snorlax and above Vaporeon.
Guess I'm no longer salty that my Growlithe nest changed into Rhyhorn.
>>30099082
I really really wish mine hadn't rolled acient power now after I walked him for 81 km
>you're wasting your dust powering Jolteon up
who's laughing now
>all those buffed mons
>still shit moves
bravo niantic
Chansey's defense just jumped 116 points
It also got the biggest buff in CP and already had a shittonne of HP
A max level Blissey is going to be impossible to kill lmfao
>>30098903
>Increase Cloisters base defense by 127 points
wtf
Is Alakazam actually good now? Mine went up by like 700cp.
>>30098903
>rhydon 3300 max CP
what did niantic mean by this?
>>30098903
Blastoise nerf seems really unneccessary
fuck you niantic
>Rhydon used to be midway through my list
>Now in the top three rows
the fuck
>Zapdos and Moltres got buffed
>Articuno nerfed
lol even Niantic hates Mystic
>all those 10km eggs mons getting buffs
>>30099132
mud shot is unavailable tho.
>>30099019
Seconding this, I wanna see that one guy's 2k Muk now
>>30096196
the mixed feelings then I scroll down.
Some spoofer left 5 area gyms open in contempt
>zapdos getting buffs
mystikuks and valorfags on suicide watch
>>30098514
>Slowbro
>middle-evo
I know this is bait, but I'm still triggered
>>30098903
Thanks anon
>>30099118
>comparing Dewgong and Cloyster to see who's now better
>those stats on Cloyster
God DAYUM, a good attack with that fucking defense holy moly
>>30098913
THIS
CURRENT GYMS ARE UNAFFECTED
THE CHANGE ONLY AFFECTS POKEMONS THAT ARE NOT CURRENTLY IN GYMS. THE STATS WILL CHANGE IN YOUR POKEMON LIST BUT IF YOU GO TO THE GYM THE 2000 CP VAPEOR STILL HAS 2000 CP AND NOT 2500 LIKE IN YOUR LIST
Oh hello buffed friendo
And now to wait for fast charge moves to get buffed so my Discharge perfect Jolteon can feel useful some day.
http://www.jma.go.jp/en/tsunami/
There's a tsunami warning at the Lapras event.
>>30099275
>I've been playing Pokemon since Gen I and only just now reading your post realized Slowking doesn't evolve from Slowbro
wew
>>30098777
32. But i left it at mon level 32.5 (not worth candies unless it can break a hundred threshold, which would have been 3200 next level)
>>30098981
man i wanna fug this figlio talian blonde poketrainer girl so bad
i would eat our her cloyster even if they are 3000 cp now
>its only cp number guyse, nothing really changed
I knew you were talking out of your ass
I wish my Rhydon didn't had Rock Smash but oh well. At least it will be useful to fight other Rhydon and Snorlax.
>>30099347
o shit
>post yfw niantic lured the most active players into a death trap
>>30099370
CP is related to stats. Of course they had to be moved around. You retard
>>30099377
mine has it and it works really well against snorlaxes
>>30099316
>pantimos
>>30099347
>Only 3m high
They will be fine
>>30099414
>they had to be moved around
thats what i kept sayan, you dildo
>>30099361I get to do so everydaythat's my pokégf
>>30099413
Niantic will be able to ban the spoofers because they'll be the only ones in the site
>>30099347
RIP Nick
can I have your pokegf
>>30099098
lucky eggs wont stack during this event
>>30099432
It's probably the best Lax killer now holy shit.
I'm glad I got EQ on it too. I was kinda bummed about no stone edge.
>>30099483
This was all part of the keikaku
>>30099350
>he has never completed the dex
MODS
>>30099493
sauce?
>>30099489
He's alive.
>>30099493
source: your ass
From Leddit:
New Base Stat formula
Base Attack = 2 * ROUND((Atk * SpAtk * HigherStat)1/3 + Spd0.5))
Base Defense = 2 * ROUND((Def * SpDef * HigherStat)1/3 + Spd0.5))
Base Stamina = 2 * HP
fuck this shit
I had 2000 Exeggutor before
Now it's mostly Pinsirs
I'm gonna go kill myself
>>30099482
lmao get cucked i submitted a ban request for her
>>30096870
>Polibro is dead
I fought one in a gym, its still buff as fuck.
I think gym defenders are buffed up. My 2829 Gyardos with Bite had a hard time with 2 slowbro's (17xx and 21xx)
>>30099597
>speed still does little to nothing
>>30099597
Can somebody tell me how this has changed from the previous formula?
>Jolteon 30+ buff
>Raichu stays the same
help me understand this logic
guess
>>30099623
>he thinks ban requests work
>>30099688
electabuzz stayed unchanged too
still with 1700 cp it beats 2500 gayardoses
>>30099711
A fucking Ryhorn.
That's the best fucking now
>>30097222
Its a great attacker.
When mine was 1840 it took out two 2K arcanine and did fair ammount of damage on a 2200 gyarados.
>>30099762
Joltein is better now
Victrebel is such a fucking shit now.
I had 3 with 90+% ivs. Fuck me
>Dragonite buffed
tell me why
>be me
>lvl 30 account
>still don't have an arcanine.
>still don't have a dragonite
>still don't have an exeggutor
>evolved my first weepinbell few days back
>it came out with 2 poison attacks, decide not to level it.
wew.
>Nerfing Magikarp
200+cp never again
>>30099891
>>Dragonite buffed
>tell me why
Guys in my group tell me it got reduced.
>>30099891
Because it's literally the strongest non-legendary pokemon in the first generation.
>>30099871
>I had 3 with 90+% ivs.
Yeah, right, fuck you.
Why are you complaining?
>>30099943
Look at the spreadsheet. It got buffed.
>>30099652
>>30099652
Before, it used to be like this:
Base Attack = 2 * ROUND((Atk * SpAtk)^0.5 + Spd^0.5))
Base Defense = 2 * ROUND((Def * SpDef)^0.5 + Spd^0.5))
Base Stamina = 2 * HP
CP is calculated by
CP = (Attack * Defense^0.5 * Stamina^0.5 * CP_Multiplier^2) / 10
where CP_Multiplier is basically tied to your level.
There is now an stronger emphasis on the better stat.
Instead of multiplying two stats (atk,satk or def, sdef) and taking the 2nd root, they take three stats where the better one counts double and take the third root.
Post smug buffmons
>>30099157
Mine went up by 900.
Shadow Ball is usable, r-right guys?
>they nerfed farfetch'd
lol why
>only have spent 6.2k dust since I started playing on october on a 95,5% machamp
>saw 3 nearby lvl 10 stable mystic gyms that have been untouched for like 3 weeks crumble to shit
>LMAOing @ cucks who blew their dust on defenders
>meanwhile im sitting at almost 300k dust
>now this
Hey at least you can get some dust back on turkey week right? LMAO
My Kingler army is finally paying off
>>30099157
Alakazam's attack stat is now second best of all obtainable pokemon, so yes
he's a total glass cannon though
>>30098846
the same people tho
>tfw you live in a geodude/rhyhorn nest
Who else?
>>30100128
>second best
I meant the best, only Mewtwo has higher attack
Friendly reminder to recycle the other thread instead of making a new one:
>>30096151
>>30096151
>>30096151
>invested in very few pokemon, all of them buffed aside from a sorry 93% Blastoise that just lost 300CP
>my 98% Gyarados in which I've been investing against all recommendations is now close to 3K CP
>currently sitting on +700k stardust
>turkey week about to arrive
how have you been affected by this change?
>>30100228
>Have 500 candies but still haven't caught a magikarp >80%
I just want the disappointment of Twister to be over.
>>30100281
Have 3 Gyarados over 80%, another Magikarp over 80% and more than 500 candies.
>>30099711
exeggcute
>>30100228
All the weakmons Iv'e been trying to get are suddenly monsters
(Alakzam, Rhydon, Jolteon, Primeape, Golem, Hitmonlee)
Also, I have a Golem ,with perfect IV's and the best moves, got buffed so this update is the best thing for me right now.
>mfw I finally have good pokemon to counter Dragonite and Snorlax
>Magneton is still fucking worthless
RRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>30099871
What
No no nooooo NOOOOOOOO WHY DID I CHEEEECK
>>30100510
I'm so fucking happy about my Golem. I used to use it to take down Arcanines but now I think it can decimate Lapras like it always should have.
>>30100897
>weak to ice
>decimate Lapras
>>30101111
waste of quads
learn to dodge
>>30101111
Well they're not wrong. It probably will take off 10% of Lapras' HP.
>>30101207
if it's all about
>l2dodge lol
then how come nobody was using grassmons to take it down
>>30101317
I do