>Totem Wishiwashi

>>30053545

>Totem_Honchkrow.png

Hardest battle I've had the entire series from the Alolamolas it called healing it and curing it's paralysis to all the lucky crits even when I thought I was safe when I got it to -6 SpA with Struggle Bug

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>Totem Lurantis

>>30053545
Really? All I did was give it two good Thundershocks, though to be fair I wasn't really trying new mons and was sticking to safe older ones like Magnemite.

>>30053545
it kicked my ass literally seconds ago

i want one for myself. what nature do i aim for

>>30054275
just trade a lilipup for a bounsweet. z-move splash + razor leaf = win

>>30054326
None because it's sort of disappointing in-game and competitively

If you REALLY want it though, go Quiet, Brave, or Modest.

>>30054305
Ok and what level was your Magnemite? I find it hard to believe you two-shotted Totem Wishiwashi with Thundershocks with its SDEF bulk with something level appropriate.

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>>30053545
>use dire hit on charjabug
>OHKO totem wishiwashi with spark

based bug

>>30054373
Level 24-ish though I could be wrong, might have been three thundershocks.

>>30054326
Anything minus speed. It's base 30 there's no point in having any investment.

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>wishiwashi called for help
>alomomola appeared
>alomomola used heal pulse
>alomomola used helping hand
>alomomola healed paralysis

Make it fucking stop!

>>30054494
>>30054344
can't decide which attack id rather have. fug. this is gonna take some thought. maybe i'll just train two

>>30054495
O-oh

That's why everybody was complaining. It was only spawning weaker wishiwashi w/Helping Hand for me.

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>not totem vikavolt

>>30053545
>Totem Wishiwashi
>"Whatever, I'll just use Fomantis."
>Critical Razor Leaf
>reduced to half HP
>"This won't be so bad."
>Totem Wishiwashi ate its Sitrus Berry and regained health!
>Totem Wishiwashi called for help!
>Totem Wishiwashi summoned Alomaloma
>Alomaloma used Heal Pulse!
>Totem Wishiwashi used Water Gun!
>Totem Wishiwashi used Water Gun!
>Magnemite fainted!
>Alomaloma's Healer cures Totem Wishiwashi's paralysis!

This is the second boss of the game!?

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did I just get ridiculously lucky?

charjabug destroyed it easily

>>30054524
In the long run it doesn't matter since you're not using this exact Wishiwashi for competitive (you'll breed one with better IVs and nature with the right materials) and you can get by with suboptimal natures in-game

>>30054573
why the fuck would i breed for ivs when i can just slap a bottlecap on it

i can finally use my bros from the story competitively with the only thing to keep in mind being nature. wishiwashi doesn't even have any good egg moves

>>30054601
Oh, I mean, sure, if you like killing your time catching stuff multiple times.

I'd personally play it safe since IV increases aren't permanent and they might not be a thing again next gen

>>30054565
No, Totems are designed that unless you have a hard counter, the Totem is meant to wreck you.

Since everything is stacked in it's favor

>>30054565
>>30054439
Same here. Is Charjabug just a good luck charm?

>>30054637
GF trims a lot of features, but this is something so essential I can't see them doing away with

>>30054643
>unless you have a hard counter
it's the game's fault

grass types right before wishiwashi, fucking brick break TM right before gumshoos

>>30054565

From what I've seen, a lot of the totems are that way. If you've got a strong SE hit to take them out fast you're good, but if you'd normally take a few turns wearing them down they difficulty ramps up noticeably.

I actually like how its going, both the Wishiwashi and Salazzle fights felt like real battles to me, ending with my last pokemon of my team of three just edging out the win.

>do a z-move
>brings it down to half health
>EATS A FUCKING BERRY

reeeeeeeeeeeeeEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

I gave Charjabug X-SpAttck and the rest was history. Charjabug is a fuckin based bromon

>>30054674
>grass types right before wishiwashi

it'd be even easier if there were grass types way before wishiwashi, because it'd be trained and have a better moveset

>>30054565
It only gets hard if it summons an Alomomola instead of another Wishi

>>30054643
I dunno, my incineroar wrecked the totem wishiwashi pretty easily

>/vp/ wines about pokemon being too easy for years
>cries like a bitch when they get their asses whooped when the games are actually are difficult for once.

>>30054565
Charjabug is best bug for playthrough Felt like I was using him more than any other pokemon including the starter.

Only complaint is it's pretty late game you can finally evolve him

>>30054559
>alolan grimer dropped to half HP from a single water gun
>doesnt even get the poison to take effect

i was lucky mine summoned a wishiwashi ally and not alomomola

I really got lucky on my second attempt on him, as Charjabug managed to crit and gain a special attack boost from her first charge beam and then gain another special buff from her next charge beam. That and my Charjabug was a timid nature one.

>>30054729
>difficult
I barely had my starter die like 3 times tops in the entire game and never lost 1 battle, it's as piss easy as always if you aren't a complete retard leveling a pichu or some stupid shit
>inb4 rat defense force

>>30054729
>cries like a bitch
I don't think you understand the connotation of nor the intent behind the words in this thread

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>>30054729
Im pretty sure no one here is complaining

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>Ilima sent out Smeargle

>>30054782
>I barely had my starter die like 3 times
but anon, a pokemon can only die once and then you have to go find a replacement.

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>Totem Lurantis summons Castform
I had some fun with that battle.

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>>30054793
>technician STAB tackle
>technician water gun

>>30054748
It summoned a Wishiwashi against me.

At first. But then on the next turn, the pain train started.

I still haven't lost to one of these Totems yet, but Wishiwashi gave me a good run for my money.

Salazzle was pretty tough, too.

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>>30053545
But have you considered fighting Totem Wishiwashi with Aqua Ring + Scald + Brine Wishiwashi?

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>>30054793
>Watching Projared get fucking raped by it to the point he became a Salt Factory

>>30054729
Totems are only difficult if you don't one or two shot them.

The real jokes are when you look at Trial Captain, Kahuna, Boss characters, and the Elite 4's movesets and see a lot of their Pokemon are lucky to have THREE MOVES

>>30054793
That thing was way stronger than it had any right to be.

>>30054729
These are some of the best battles I've had in the series, Anon.

>>30054714
>Incineroar that early in the game

topu keko

My petilil wrecked that shit easily

Sleep powder turn one (with quick claw), magical leaf twice

>>30054679
>not opening with bug bite against trainer mons or totems

>>30054840
>Watching Projared get fucking raped by it to the point he became a Salt Factory

Well I need to see this

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>mfw my Cutiefly named Barry KO's Totem Wishiwashi

>>30054486
>24

You were grossly overlevelled, my Pikachu was Level 24 after beating all three trials of Island 2.

>wishiwashi used growl
Fucking kill me

>>30054835
>file name
>wishiwashi's nickname

nice

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>totem Salazzle
>Salazze used toxic!
>Salandit used venoshock!
>can only bubblebeam every other turn because of torment

>>30054793
Wait did people actually have trouble with it? I killed it in 2 hits

>>30054863
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JOSjPVkLMw

3:59:00 to watch his train wreck as he misplays constantly

>>30054863
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JOSjPVkLMw&t=3h59m16s

>>30054890
Then use a special attacker, what doesn't help physical attacker's case is that Wishiwashi's defense raises.

>>30054793
I felt very stupid that it managed to ko my Grubbin.

>>30054551
>Totem Vikavolt
>summons Battery Charjabug
>Oh shit this is gonna suck
>Totem Vikavolt has no (0) Special attacks
Why did you have any trouble with that thing?

>>30054793
>QT teacher sent out Magnemite
>My starter was Popplio

Thank god for based Alolan Meowth to save my ass.

what hidden power would be best on a sp atk wishiwashi

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>Totem Lurantis
>Castform comes to help
>Castform used Sunny Day!
>Z-firium takes Totem Lurantis down to red health
>Lurantis used Synthesis
>mfw

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>>30054909
>wishiwashi used HYDRO VORTEX
>OHKO
i knew that thing was going to come in handy as soon as i saw it.

>>30054934
Boyyyy

>>30054999
The thing is, it's a double edged sword. It sets the stage for your Fire Type Z Move to 1 Hit KO it.

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>My Wingull evolves into Pelipper
>Send him out to fight
>IT STARTED RAINING
>FUCKING PELIPPER HAS FUCKING DRIZZLE NOW

>>30054987
I don't know. My Popplio was able to tank a thundershock that only dealt 1/3 of her own HP. And she has a Bashful nature (neutral nature) mind you.

>>30054993
Keep in mind you can't really change a Pokemon's Hidden Power type without Hyper Training hypothetically, but I guess Fire would be good.

>>30054970
spark paralyzed stunlock

>>30055049
Hyper Training doesn't affect the Hidden Power. It doesn't even actually touch the pokemon's IVs, just gives it the power of having them all Max.

how the fuck did you scrubs have so much trouble I was 5 levels underleveled no exp share it was still piss easy

>>30055045
torkoal has drought as well. i was confused as fuck.

>>30053545
>Brionne used Echoed Voice!
Easiest totem by far.

>>30054909
my mudbray took a flame burst from totem salazzle and tore it appart with high horsepower

>>30054934
>using Growl
>ever

>>30053545
>Meowth used Screech!
>Meowth used Screech!
>Meowth used Screech!
>______ used ______!
>Totem Wishiwashi fainted!

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>>30053545
>Totem Wishiwashi calls for help!
>... ... ...
>Wishiwashi appeared!
>Wishiwashi used Helping Hand!
>Totem Wishiwashi used Growl!

>>30055027
Yeah, it's not coincidence they made the next Totem weak to the Z-Crystal you were given just prior on that Island. They were made really difficult but easily beatable if you used the tools you were given.

>>30054934
>>30054942
>Smeargle used Leafage!

That's beautiful.

>>30054934
Do Nuzlocke runs do this to everyone?

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>smeargle used tackle

>>30054551
>tfw I had a Sandygast trained

>>30054934
This is embarrassing to watch.

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>>30054934
>he thinks a NPC smeargle is going to use Sketch

what a fucking tard.

>>30054934
>Literally the 1st "Gym Leader"

Based SunMoon. I had an Alolan Grimer that made short work of Smeargle but it really does hit hard.

>totem Gumshoos
No idea, it was 2 am and I have no recollection of what happened
>totem Wishiwashi
My nigga Grimer uses minimize twice and gets hit zero (0) times while I poison it and poison fang the fuck out of it. It only summoned a Wishiwashi
>totem Lurantis
OHKO'd it with Torracat's z fire fang
>totem Salazzle
2HKO'd with Araquanid bubblebeam and z move
>totem Vikavolt
Fire fanged
>totem Mimikyu
Little nigger play roughed my nigga muk but Incineroar z move killed it
Overall they're pretty easy
Helps being overleveled

>>30054934
>I haven't even touched him

Because you haven't been fucking attacking.

>>30055249
>Overall they're pretty easy
>Helps being overleveled

Too bad, they are fun as fuck in a no-grind run.

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>>30055249
>Overall they're pretty easy
>Helps being overleveled

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>>30054934
>forgetting about Stakeout on the Yungoos
Kek.
>that overanalysis of Smeargle and assumption that it has Sketch
Kek.
>forgetting that Smeagle's only decent stat is its Speed
KEK
>WHY IS HE SO FAST
KAIOKEK
>ALL THESE MISPLAYS
pic

>>30054729
Anon please I'm not mad. I may complain but I'm actually enjoying being challenged after the snore fest that was XY's gyms.

>Smeargle
>Technician-boosted STAB Tackle
>3 other moves to guarantee an elemental advantage.
>great IV's
>a 0/252/0/252/0/0 EV spread.

CAN'T WAKE UP

>>30055034
He just stated that the Fire Z-move still failed to OHKO in Sun.

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>>30055069
>only gives the power of max IVs
>doesn't actually fuck with Hidden Power
>tfw shiny Growlithe will get to keep its HP Water

>>30054835
>overleveled

turn off the xp share kid

>>30054297
I've always called Castform a useless gimmicky shit.
That fight made me eat those words. KOing the Trumbeak help first was a total mistake.

>>30055418
>1 level higher
>overleveled
What?

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>thunder wave
>thunderbolt
>thunderbolt
>thunderbolt
Have you guys never played a pokemon game before or what?
I especially liked the part where it gave you a fucking resistance to its sole attacking move.

>>30055506
You know /vp/'s definition of properly leveled is being five levels under at all times right? Just ignore the shitters and do what you're doing.

After the Totem Raticate left me with half my party fainted I assumed the game expected you to have EXP Share on, so I actually went into this fight with an overleveled Magnemite.

It was over in two rounds.

>>30055506
that makes him several levels higher than the wild pokemon in the area. he leveled that wishiwashi 3 or 4 times before starting the final fight in the trial

>>30055587
>that makes him several levels higher than the wild pokemon in the area
That is going to happen to literally everyone who isn't making a beeline straight for the next plot flag, even with exp share off.

>>30055506
1 level higher than the area's boss, aka probably four levels higher than the trainers and five or six higher than the wild pokemon

turn off the xp share or stop grinding, deal with some difficulty

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>>30055249
>Overall they're pretty easy
>Helps being overleveled

>>30055249

>My nigga Grimer uses minimize twice and gets hit zero (0) times while I poison it and poison fang the fuck out of it. It only summoned a Wishiwashi

Speaking of which, the Janitor's Grimer/Muk was hell for this reason.

>>30054970
If you don't have any ground types or good electric resists, that Spark still hits damn hard

>>30055671
>Tsareena used Stomp!

>>30054934
I love low Ilima battle animation looks like he's taking great pleasure from this shit.

>>30055642
nope, been playing without xp share; fought every trainer on every route so far and haven't run from a single battle/used repel

team is all 22 and i'm right before olivia, the wild digletts outlevel me sometimes

it's fun, there's challenge in every encounter instead of just one shotting wild pokemon with neutral effective moves

>>30055249
>Totem Salazzle

Died to Bulldoze before it could do shit in my run.

Got a critical hit from my slightly overleveled Dartix's (All the mons I want to use on my team were found later on island 2 or 3) razor leaf and one-hit it. Was actually pretty disappointed with how hard everyone was saying it was. Salazzle was a joke too. My salandit that I caught at level 19 knew dragon rage and 2 hit KO'd it. Totems have been easy af so far for me. Yet that fucking Kalos bitch's (Sinia?) Glaceon 1 hit KO'd my entire team right when I got to the second island. This game's difficulty is weird yo

>>30055714

I was trying to play it through with exp share off but I got sick of running back to Pokecenters after every other fight.

If this game didn't have the "pokemon can summon waves of reinforcements as a free action" mechanic then wild battles wouldn't be so stressful, but they'd still be grindy as fuck.

>>30055587
>>30055645
Okay, hold on, let me get this straight.
>max level of wild Pokemon in Viridian Forest in Fire Red/Leaf Green: 6
>max level of enemy trainers in Viridian Forest: 9
>max level of Gym Leader Brock's Pokemon in Fire Red and Leaf Green: 14
So waltzing into Brock's Gym at level 12 or so is overleveled?

>>30055736
bulldoze mud donkey is almost tailor made for that fight

ohko's the ally salandits so they can't toxic-venoshock combo

i think most of the totem fights can be done without going for cheese tactics but they're there if you get stuck, which is a nice concession

>>30055495
>KOing the Trumbeak help first was a total mistake.
It was worse with screech/supersonic.

>>30055773
>This game's difficulty is weird yo
yeah, if you dont drop the non-mob fights in one or two hits they tend to steamroll you. so a fight thats really easy for one anon can be a bitch for another.

>>30055803
honestly, it's pretty close

you have six pokemon to his two, remember

What gave ne shit was it's powerful water gun.
Trumbeak really pulled through.

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>People say Totem Lurantis
>Le Toucannon two shots it with Beak Blast
Disappointing

After getting to the gen 5 elite 4 and being about 7 levels under, I swore to myself to never turn off the exp share. I had to grind for hours
I was also underleveled in ORAS versus steven but only by 3 or so

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>>30054934
>two sand attacks
>baby doll eyes
>three attacks that would have ended smeargle wasted on debuffs that didnt matter
>"FUCK THIS GAME"

>>30055803
you cant catch wishiwashi untill three (three) scripted battles before the totem, so that anon had one hell of a grindfest to get it from 17 or 18 up to 21

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>>30055790
>he kept the xp share on
>he has to run back to the pokecenter after every other fight

>>30055830
>catching six shitmons at the start
Why do people even do this?

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>Totem Mimikyu

>>30055866

That was probably exaggerating, but I just wanted to get on with the damn game without grinding.

>>30055867
because at worst it's three or four free revive/potion uses in a pinch, at best you actually level a slightly suboptimal but easily available pokemon and be pleasantly surprised by what it can do

shoutout to the toucannon line

>>30055867

What part of "Gotta Catch Em All" are you not getting here

>>30055773
>Glaceon 1 hit KO'd my entire team right when I got to the second island.
Funny, all it did was use Quick Attack twice. I'm surprised Sina knew that I was using a Thick Fat Snorlax.

>>30055899
Is Toucannon actually good? I reviewed it's base speed after it evolved and instantly dropped it. It's signature move being 2-turn was also a huge turn-off, so is it surprisingly bulky?

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>Totem Wishiwashi called for help!
>Wishiwashi appeared!
>mfw

Looks like I got better luck than you all?
I just fucked it up with Lurantis and A-Raichu.

>>30055974
It's base attack is incredibly high.

>>30055974
>I reviewed it's base speed after it evolved and instantly dropped it.
>in the region where the majority of fully evolved pokemon are on the slow side.


1. Pheromosa 151
2. Ash Greninja 132
3. Tapu Koko 130
4. Marshadow 125
5. Ribimbee 124
6. Minior (Shields Down activated) 120
7. Salazzle 117
8. Alolan Persian 115
8. Zygarde 10% 115
9. Lycanroc (Day) 112
10. Alolan Raichu 110
10. Alolan Dugtrio 110

11. Alolan Ninetales 109
11. Kartana 109
12. Nihilego 103
13. Comfey 100
14. Solgaleo 97
14. Lunala 97
15. Mimikyu 96
15. Togedemaru 96
16. Silvally 95
16. Tapu Lele 95
17. Oricorio 93
17. Bruxish 93
18. Zygarde Complete 85
18. Kommo-o 85
18. Tapu Fini 85
19. Xurkitree 83
20. Lycanroc (Night) 82

21. Passimian 80
22. Buzzwole 79
22. Necrozma 79
23. Alolan Raticate 77
24. Tapu Bulu 75
25. Tsareena 72
26. Decidueye 70
27. Alolan Sandslash 65
27. Komala 65
28. Celesteela 61
29. Incineroar 60
29. Primarina 60
29. Toucannon 60
29. Bewear 60
29. Oranguru 60
29. Minior (Standard) 60
30. Alolan Muk 50

31. Alolan Golem 45
31. Alolan Exeggutor 45
31. Alolan Marowak 45
31. Gumshoos 45
31. Lurantis 45
32. Vikavolt 43
32. Crabominable 43
32. Araquanid 43
32. Guzzlord 43
33. Wishiwashi (Solo) 40
33. Golisopod 40
33. Dhelmise 40
34. Turtonator 36
34. Drampa 36
35. Magearna 35
35. Toxapex 35
35. Mudsdale 35
35. Palossand 35
36. Wishiwashi (School) 30
36. Shiinotic 30
37. Pyukumuku 5

>>30056003
so would running a speed invested Jolly Toucannon be viable?

>>30053545
>Dartrix used Razor Leaf!

>not using based charjabug and shocking his ass

>>30056048
I said fuck it at the end and gave brionne an x special attack and dire hit to kill that fucker and his evil heart fish

>>30056048
i spent 2 and a half hours trying to find a grubbin before i decided i'd rather actually play the fucking game or cut my thumbs off before seeing another pikapek or yungoos

>>30056095

Grubbin was like the third pokemon I caught in the game. They're in Route 4 as well.

>>30056095
what the hell you must have been looking in the wrong place

there was tons of em when i caught mine

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>that dark Kahuna fight
>dark Z-move out of nowhere

Not using the exp share is really fucking me over. I'm like 5 levels below every trainer. And I'm fighting every single trainer.

>>30056118
>you must have been looking in the wrong place

unless serebii is lying about them being on route 1 and 2 no i wasnt

>>30056143
make sure you're using PokeRefresh for the EXP boost and RNG bonuses

>>30056143

The game balance is weird in that you likely won't get enough exp to keep pace with the game's progression without exp share, but turning it on will overlevel you past the point of a challenge.

I've made a rule to only turn it on if I go to a level and find I'm below the wild pokemon level.

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>>30056183
>mfw i only touched amie when i needed to make a sylveon and never again

>mfw free status heals made me go full affection
>mfw it's saved my ass at 1 hp a few times

Lmao I had no problems with lurantis or wishiwashi.

In fact torract destroyed lurantis and wishiwashi didn't summon alolomamola at all, just another wishiwashi. Trumbeak solo'd that fight.

>>30054565
>Charjabug for Wishiwashi
>Mudsbray for Salazzle
>Salandit for Lurantis

These are the hardest counters to any one of the totems


Muk is great for Mimikyu

>>30053545
Literally don't get why you guys had so much trouble with this. I beat him with nothing but Lv 24/25 Torracat using Bite and Lv 20 Magnemite using Thunder Wave and Spark. Magnemite KO'd but I mean I still had 4 other Pokemon in reserve just in case.

>>30056145
They're found is specific patches of grass, the one by the town

>>30056284
>lvl24 Torracat

Bullshit I had exp share turned on and I wasn't even that overlevelled.

>>30056183
>>30056222

I've gone with a self imposed rule of only using Refresh when the post battle prompt comes up, and its working pretty well. Had a few instances of Pokemon (especially my starter) pulling through on things they really shouldn't have survived and the boosted exp has balanced out not using the XP share nicely.

Mudsbray has rocketed to the top of the affection roster in my team though just because I guess using ground type moves gets it dirty every battle and the constant brushing and cleaning has made it adore me.

Getting those rainbow beans at the Pelago also lets you max out affection in literally trivial time. I just caught a trumbeak, and one rainbow bean and a few normal beans then a couple of pats and cleans and its already at 4 hearts.

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>>30053545
I defeated Totem Wishiwashi with nothing but a Slowpoke named Napoleon.

I just kept using Yawn over and over again to keep it asleep and whittled it down with Confusion.

>>30055853
>already having toucannon in that fight

i just used a paras with dry skin ability and i could really even get damaged i just kept using absorb and poison gas i beat it in about 35 turns

>>30053545
Was it difficult? I beat it and its Alomomola with my level 25 Charjabug. A few Sparks and it was over. I barely even took damage.

>>30056363
That's because Charjabug is number one asskicker in-game

>>30053545
I'm going to beat it with a Drampa and no one can stop me!

>>30054551
I killed it in two shots with a talonflame.

>>30056393
also fucking lvl 25

>>30056281
Bewear hard counters Mimikyu if it runs out of Play Rough pp. It cannot touch him.

>>30054674
That's called good game design spastic

>>30056429
it can survive a salandit fire z move no problem.

bravest bird continues to be OP as fuck.

>>30056095
Use the habitat function on the Dex

It tells you what patch of grass to look in

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>>30054934
>he actually thought the game was cheating
>This game sucks.
>That's so fucking stupid.
holy shit my sides

>>30055556
>Totem Wishiwashi uses soak
should've summoned something to make use of that

>>30054934
Ahahahahah
He is actually distraught

>people meme about alomomola using heal pulse
>for me it just spams helping hand on the low health totem and they both die.
o

>>30055803
I'd say so. Last time I played gen1 (the Virtual Console releases) I beat Brock with a team of lv7 shitters. Leech Seed went a long way in securing the win, but even if I had chosen something other than Bulba all it would have taken would have been a couple Potions used during the battle while everyone wears the rock fuckers down with repeated Leers and Tackles.

>>30056897

It helps that Onix is a shit.

>>30055974
>It's signature move being 2-turn was also a huge turn-off
It's one turn, it just has negative priority and has an added effect if your opponent attacks you with a contact move (burn status).
>>30056922
Yeah, it's fine for an early game boss enemy but that thing is really a shit. If you Growl it a couple times, Tackle and Bind won't do shit, so the only way it deals real damage to you is by using Bide, and we all know how to deal with that (don't attack while it's charging up). If it uses Screech and you start fearing Tackle/Bind again, just switch (which is why it's useful to have a full team of six by this point). And if you really feel like wasting time on grinding, even Charmander lays it low as soon as it learns Ember, because Onix's Special is just that shit. To speak nothing of the other two starter choices or Confusion Butterfree (also of note, Butterfree doesn't learn Confusion until lv12 in Red/Blue, so once again more grinding involved if you're not feeling the death-by-a-thousand-Tackles strat)

>>30056897
That's why I used Fire Red/Leaf Green, not Red/Blue. At least his Onix uses STAB moves in Gen III.

>>30053545
I didn't have a hard time with Wishwashi. Had a level 20 Dartrix+Dire Hit. Fuck the Alomomola though.

The Salazzle fight left 5 of my squad fainted and my Dartrix with 2 HP. Maybe I shouldn't have overthought the Marowak questions like 5 times.

>>30057081
I also replayed FireRed recently (after VC Red in fact), but I honestly don't remember anything about the Brock fight in that run, even though I must have been at similar levels. I think I recycled the Leech Seed + Growl part of my strategy and just let Mankey handle the rest.

>>30053545
My Dartrix with Razor Leaf handled this no problem. Nevermind that it was left at 1HP and I had to use a Dire Hit... Thank god for that crit ratio

>>30056203
>only turn it on if I go to a level and find I'm below the wild pokemon level.
At that point, isn't it just better to catch the wild Pokemon and swap them into your team? That's what I would do at least.

I deliberately tried to challenge myself and not use my Pikachu (19) for the Wishiwashi fight, literally got crushed. Torracat (23), Croconaw (20), Jangmo-o (18), Vulpix-A (18) got wrecked. It was a little too easy with Pikachu though. T-Wave, Electro Ball, Electro Ball, ded.

Still, I'm definitely happy with the difficulty still far, I don't get all the complaining that was happening when the game leaked.

>>30053545
>Snorlax used Yawn.
>Totem Wishiwashi became drowsy
>Wishiwashi did some move
>Wishiwashi summoned Wishiwashi
>Wishiwashi used Aqua Ring or something
>Wishiwashi fell asleep
>Snorlax used Chip Away x2 or 3
>Totem Wishiwashi fainted
>Battle's not over with because of the summoned pokemon
>Snorlax used Chip Away
>Battle's over.

Snorlax was probably either 19, 20, or 21 at the time.

That Trial was kind of lame for me. Hey though, I wanted to get it over with ASAP to catch Mareanie, so it was all good.

>>30057519
Snorlax is pretty OP at that point in the game, it's balanced for your team consisting of first or second stage shitmons

>>30053545
Granted I'm only 2 islands in but none of these totem challenges have been that hard for me yet. Not even Lurantis. Haven't had one pokemon faint during any of them so far.

>>30057581
what's your team, famalam

>>30057423
Thats more or less how I've been playing the totem battles. I use the rest of my team and see how they do and then save my ace for the finish if necessary. Its been fun so far, makes the boss fights feel like something out of the better eras of the anime.

>>30057519
Aside from Snorlax definitely being stronger than most things you'd normally have at that level, a lot of the difficulty of the Wishiwashi fights seems to depend on whether Alomomola comes out to play or not.

Motherfucking Mimikyu, man
Nigga fucking sweeped me with Shadow Claw, and Rough House or whatever it's called, only reason I survived was an unhealthy supply of Moomoo milk

The only other thing I've ever encountered as dangerous as it was a ditto who copied my Archer Owl and proceeded to slaughter practically my whole team with leaf blade, spirit shackle, and then called over a ditto who then copied Mudsdale and spammed Heavy Slam at everything

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>>30053545
>My Dartrix one shot it with razor leaf

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>Totem Lurantis used Synthesis!

>>30056005
>TFW half of your roster doesn't even have 50 speed

I've never seen this many "Couldn't Run Away" messages in a single game before.

>>30057632
>Totem Lurantis is hurt by Poison!

>>30057581
Wait never mind my Pikachu got taken out by Wishiwashi

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>got bodied by Hau's Raichu
I was more embarrassed than anything

>>30057718
First time you fight it as well? That was rough for me too anon. Fucking STAB Psychic at that level had me using potions left and right

>>30054885
I just finished the fire dudes trial and my oricorio is level 27. I ditched my level 11 popplio earlyfor a level 8 slowpoke, then my slowpoke was like level 20 by the time I got to melemel meadow and I finally found Oricorio so I started using that at ~level 13. I just do whatever trainer battles come at me, I was around maybe 24 when I fought wishiwashi and killed it easily with hidden power electric.

The only thing that's gross is the shit curve level, I am trying not to be overdeveloped and it just isn't working

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>>30057632
>Totem Lurantis is hurt by the Curse!
>Lurantis' at -4 attack because I have literally no fire or flying types on my team
>Spamming protect and shitmon chip away moves
No matter where I am, I must stall

>>30057632
That was the whole battle for me after I failed to kill it turn 1.

>Lurantis used Synthesis!
>Torracat used Fire Fang!
>Lurantis used Synthesis!
>Torracat used Fire Fang!

Repeat ad nauseum.

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>>30057718
>>30057740
>mfw alolan grimer

>>30053545
What? Had trouble? On such an 'easy' game? My Kadabra punked it.

>>30057746
>27
Holy shit I just finished the trial after that and the Kahuna, and my highest reached 26 just now. Been catching any new Pokemon I see. Should I be grinding more?

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>>30057718
>mfw had Ribombee in lead

>>30057740
Yes, I got off the boat and expected an easy fight like the ones before and got slaughtered. Fucking Psychic.

>>30057773
Idk, probably not. I pkhexed my pokemon down a few levels after the fire totem

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>>30057632
>Castform used Sunny Day!
>Salandit used a 140 bp fire-typed Z move on Lurantis in the fucking sun!
>Lurantis fainted!
Castform bro of all bros

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>>30057632
>retard castform uses sunny day
>blaze activated
>crit
>One hit KO

>>30056281
So the bottom line is you play the game with a team that specifically counters all bosses or you actually have fun and try to power through with a team of pokemon you actually like

>>30057877
RNG gods were smiling upon you anon

>>30053545
>have freshly evolved charjabug
>charge and spark annihilated most of the fishermen leading up to the trial, feeling confident
>hits it with soak first turn
>loss of STAB reduces damage
>berry use
>partner healing
>the sp def boost from charge keeps me alive through the water guns
>alolamola starts using double slap instead

I won it, but it was fucking close. The Carbink at the ranch was an unexpected challenge as well.

>>30057909
that and overgrow/blaze/torrent are anime main character tier bullshit

>>30056032
/Thread

>>30056325
>haven't given a shit about slowpoke for 7 gens
>playing this game realize i need a water pokemon
>run into slowpoke early during tutorial shit
>"eh sure whatever you'll do until I get something better"
>currently just reached the third island and he's still one of the most valuable members on my team

why the fuck am I getting emotional writing this

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>>30053545
>Wishiwashi used Growl!
>Brionne used Encore!

ezpz

I think a lot of people are experiencing a disconnect with their experiences. A lot of fags go in blind and pick up whatever pokemon they want and those are the ones in disbelief bitching about difficulty, as I'm pretty sure every other game you can do that ez. The fags saying these fights are easy are the ones who either looked up shit or got spoiled etc it seems to me generally speaking. I'm sure some anons just picked the right mons before these fights or whatever coincidentally of course, but lets not kid ourselves about how thats a majority. I'm just glad that for once people are having to do some form of strategy in one of these mainline games for the first time in awhile.

>>30058052
They hasn't been a breeze every time, but I've never lost. They give you warning on what type you'll be going against before you do it. I try to keep a diverse enough team going throughout and I have been a bit over-leveled though honestly.

>>30054840
Pretty sure that (None) in the pastebin means they have whatever random moves they learn near that level, since the rest of the moves is "customized".

>>30058052
>>30058123
to add, I've been in both boats. I was overleveled because I didn't know Grubbin was on route 1 and I was soloing using Rowlett up til I just beat the first Trial. Found Grubbin and was leveling it against trainers. I then found myself on level or a getting really close to the trainers levels and when the Kahuna showed up, I was 3 levels under. Granted it wasn't a hard fight but that has happened when I catch a new pokemon I want for my team I tend to get underleveled due to not grinding up and having to grind later on i.e. Mimikyu kicked my ass the first go round so I grinded. Wishiwashi got Charjabug'd. So I get what you're both saying.

>>30058131
No, there are just lots of trainers without full movesets. There was a bit of a scare one day when an anon posted a thread about using Z-Disable on two consecutive trainers and being horrified that it caused them to struggle to death. They thought the move had disabled everything, but the truth was that both trainers had Pokemon who should have had 4 moves but instead had deleted all but 1.

The reason is pretty clearly that they're too fucking lazy to update Pokemon's unbelievably bad, outdated AI, so to make certain trainers actually worth shit they chose to instead eliminate moves so it couldn't randomly select bad ones all the time.

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>Going against Totem Salazzle
>Calls in a Salandit
>Mudbray used Bulldoze!
>Kills them both instantly
Golly.

>>30058338
They are 4x weak to ground..

And the worst part is that we have kommo-o trial after all of this. Being ancient doesn't mean it should be lame and shit, especially if you bother enough to get mimikyu

>training Mudbray so send it out first
>immediately switch to Grimer and Wishiwashy brings it to about 3/8 HP with Water Gun
>get one Poison Fang off before he dies, which toxics Wishiwashi
>switch in my boi Raticate to Hyper Fang while the toxic gets stronger
>Wishiwashi drops the ball and summons another of itself and uses shit like Leer, allowing Rat to defeat it

Feels good getting lucky