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Pokémon Anime Discussion Thread

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Welcome to the Pokémon Anime Discussion Thread. Talk about new episodes, old episodes, upcoming episodes, anime Pokégirls, sub releases, discuss, speculate, bitch and moan, etc., etc.

>NOT-SHIT SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/#PocketMonstersXYSubbed

>Citronic Gear On's music rips:
http://pastebin.com/C2gkFb0g

>Newfag Airing/Viewing Order Guide for XY:
http://pastebin.com/anb9qe55

>Sun & Moon Anime Information
http://www.tv-tokyo.co.jp/anime/pokemon_sunmoon/story/
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLgAz7gMg35pB_fSF91D0JCZ3uvYkEQC9G

Next episode:
>SM3 - Good Rotomorning, I am the Rotomdex, Roto! + SM4 - Enter Rowlet! I Got a Pokémon in Alola!! [Nov 24th]
http://www.tv-tokyo.co.jp/anime/pokemon_sunmoon/episodes/

Upcoming episodes:
>SM5 - Popplio, Do Your Balloonest! [Dec 1st]
>SM6 - Togedemaru: Prickling and Tingling! [Dec 8th]

Shit people will ask:
>Muh subs when?
[PM] is subbing XY&Z and SM. Their releases can happen any time of the week.

Old thread:
>>30038359

SM1 SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_Sun_&_Moon_001_Alola!_New_Islands,_New_Pokemon!![H264_720P][90771713].mkv.torrent

XY&Z45 RAW:
http://pocketmonstersraws.fansub-torrents.com/[PM-RAW]Pocket_Monsters_XY&Z_045_One_Last_Battle_with_Satoshi!_Serena's_Choice!![H264_720P][24B7451C].mkv.torrent

XY&Z46 RAW:
https://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=862007

XY&Z47 SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_XY&Z_047_No_End_to_the_Zeros!_Till_the_Day_We_Meet_Again!![H264_720P][EB1C0BCC].mkv.torrent

XY&Z SPECIAL 1 RAW:
https://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=867058

XY&Z SPECIAL 2 RAW:
https://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=869085

SM1&2 RAW:
https://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=871854
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NEXT: POCKET MONSTERS SUN & MOON 3: GOOD ROTOMORNING, I AM THE ROTOM ZUKAN, ROTO! & 4: ENTER MOKUROH! I GOT A POKÉMON IN ALOLA!! (NOVEMBER 24TH)
>Satoshi and Pikachu's new partner, the Rotom Zukan, makes its debut! And Satoshi gets his first Pokémon in the Alola region!?
>Also, the new data broadcast system starts, and we have extravagant prizes as well
>And Abareru-kun appears too

>Summary:
>"Good Rotomorning, I am the Rotom Zukan, Roto!"
>Satoshi receives a new Pokémon Zukan from Professor Kukui. Incredibly enough, this Pokémon Zukan is an amazing Pokémon Zukan that can speak human language, called the "Rotom Zukan". Satoshi and Pikachu immediately go to the forest with the Rotom Zukan. Meanwhile, the evil organization known as the Rocket Gang arrives in the Alola region on orders from their boss Sakaki, and...?

>"Enter Mokuroh! I Got a Pokémon in Alola!!"
>One day, Satoshi meets a hungry Mokuroh, a Grass Quill Pokémon. In an attempt to get it, Satoshi and the others chase after it into the forest. But the forest contains the habitat of the Woodpecker Pokémon Tsutsukera! Satoshi and the others watch Mokuroh and the Tsutsukera with great interest, but then the Rocket Gang show up!

>Data Broadcast:
>The "Pocket Monsters Sun & Moon" data broadcast is filled with features, like "PokéProblems"; quiz questions related to the episode, and "PokéMeter", which shows QR codes you can read with the "Pokémon Sun/Moon" video games! Push the d-button on your remote while the show is airing.
>"PokéMeter":
>If you fill the meter all the way while the show is airing, a special QR code will be displayed. Read this special QR code and register it in the zukan in the video game "Pocket Monsters Sun/Moon"!
>"PokéProblems":
>Answer 4 quiz questions by using the colored buttons on your remote. If you get a question right, you'll get 3 points, but even if you get it wrong, you'll still get 1 point. If you get at least 10 points total, you get the chance to win a prize!
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>Voice Cast:
>Rica Matsumoto: Satoshi
>Ikue Ohtani: Pikachu
>Daisuke Namikawa: Rotom Zukan
>Kei Shindo: Lilie
>Kaito Ishikawa: Kaki
>Reina Ueda: Mao
>Hitomi Kikuchi: Suiren
>Fumiko Takekuma: Māmane
>Keiichi Nakagawa: Professor Kukui
>Unsho Ishizuka: Principal Okido
>Megumi Hayashibara: Musashi
>Shinichiro Miki: Kojiro
>Inuko Inuyama: Nyarth
>Yuji Ueda: Sonansu
>Kenta Miyake: Sakaki
>Risa Shimizu: Joy
>Rikako Aikawa: Ashimari
>Mika Kanai: Togedemaru
>Chika Fujimura: Amakaji
>Chinami Nishimura: Nyabby
>Abareru-kun: Anime Cheerleading Chief

UPCOMING SHIT:

POKÉMON NO UCHI ATSUMARU? EPISODE 59 (Nov 18th)
>Comedians Perform Skits To Commemmorate the Release of the New Games, and So Does Abareru-kun!? / Everyone Dance to the "Pokénd Song"!

SM5 - Popplio, Do Your Balloonest! (Dec 1st)

SM6 - Togedemaru: Prickling and Tingling! (Dec 8th)

POKEMON XY&Z CHARACTER SONG PROJECT COLLECTION VOL 2:
https://my.mixtape.moe/buzdoe.zip

ALOLA!:
https://mega.nz/#!ABsWQTbY!d1ILUTYt2IyO6hW97_Jk8YY9BVuvEdrHAu8J2uMwYR0
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>>30042259
Does Ash get Grubbin?
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>>30042289
The OP highly implies so.
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>>30042289
There is a good chance from the OP.
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Just try to find a girl that claimed the Ash quicker.

Only 2 fucking episodes in and she already put her mark on him.
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First for kissu !
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will ash finally get some pussy?
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>>30042289
The OP makes it obvious enough. The best part? No regional bird.
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>>30042334
>cucked
poor serena
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>>30042356
(you)
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Are the episodes put onto any irc servers?
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>>30042377
I meant it purely in terms of the order of posts, dude.
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>>30042416
I thought this was kind of a reboot so it wouldn't be technically being cucked
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Is Ash actually skipping the regional bird for once?
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>>30042328
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>>30042466
I hope so.
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So, the PM subs are out, what's wrong with the Aeon and Kukui subs? I see people calling them "shit" here, but what exactly is wrong with them?
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>>30042480
I like the birds but mom's toucan is awful
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>>30042480
Watch both and find out for yourself.
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>>30042477
people changes their minds after a long time
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>>30042328
aww she claimed a little brother
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>>30042480
I kind of want him to have the angery toucan, though
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>>30042511
Meant for >>30042492
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>>30042492
People pointed out several mistranslations in the Kukui ones.
It's just the usual speedsub crap from random nobodies. Why would you trust them over someone that's been around forever?
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>>30042466
Maybe, I wanted him to ignore the Gen 5 bird because it looked bland as fuck.
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Pokenchi thread for pancakefags:
>>30042591
>>30042591
>>30042591
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>>30042530
>literally angry birds
Nah, fuck him.
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>>30042574
Ah, okay, I understand. Thanks for explaining.
I guess I'll just watch them both to see if it really bothers me. How's Aeon for a subber?
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>>30038714
I wouldn't normally respond to the dubfags, but TPCi really fucked up big time here with the XYZ English dub today...I'll just show you guys pic related and link what Bulbapedo discovered:

"My point is, they had to re-draw a huge amount of scenes. Namely, every scene with Ash or his Pokémon in it for the first 12 minutes of the episode. I think this is the biggest visual change done for the English versions there has ever been in any Pokémon media."

Let me emphasize that "I think this is the biggest visual change done for the English versions there has ever been in any Pokémon media" and it was done by TPCi, not 4Kids, the ones known to do more visual edits normally.

Source: http://forums.bulbagarden.net/index.php?threads/s19-ep40-coming-apart-at-the-dreams.219918/
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>>30042653
What'd they change?
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>>30042289
Ash not catching a bug pokemon would be a mistake. He loves bugs.
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So who of you applied to become a janitor, be honest
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>>30042653
What happened?
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>>30042671
All of the Ash crucifixion type scenes and they censored his screaming, too...12 minutes worth of changes...TPCi did this...4Kids didn't...no, this is not April Fools Day, I can assure you I'm not kidding.
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>>30042710
That sounds bad if true.
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>>30042653
was that TPCi's decision or CN forced them to do that? i heard CN in other territories wants to keep their contents child friendly at all costs
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>>30042704
See...>>30042710

...I'm at a loss for words...first TPCi manage to replace more of the Japanese OST than 4Kids ever did throughout the XY Arc and now they manage to one up them in terms of censorship, which was the only real issue with the previous dub for the most part with only a few exceptions, too.

JUST...
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>>30042710
Wow...the jews censoring our pokemon hero and savior... really makes you go hmmmm....
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>>30042750
it's true

someone make a side by side
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>>30042686
IMGshitposter
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>>30042752
I don't think we'll find out 100% until the episode is re-aired on Disney XD, but I think it's a TPCi mandated change ala Lenora's Apron change back in BW's dub, though that was excusable since it was minor, but this...

>>30042750
I wish I was kidding...I really am not.
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This face is really fucking memeable
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Will they edit the kissu now too?
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>>30042795
Looks like Ash is orgasming or something.
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>>30042808
They don't even show it in the original version.
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>>30042846
Yeah, I don't think the dub will touch that since it's off screen anyway, but I'm appalled at TPCi lately. Remember back when they took the rights back from 4Kids how they promised they'd keep all the Japanese OST intact, no visual edits, faithful scripts, sound-alike VAs...all lies and they broke their promises.
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>>30042301
>>30042326
>>30042351
>>30042679
So this feeds into the "Ash catches le weak bug type" pattern, but it BTFOs "Ash never catches the Electric-type because Pikachu!" pattern

Thoughts?
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>>30042808
I'll be hyped if Ash gets rail gun bug
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>>30042795
He looks sleepy. Nothing weird with that.
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>>30042808
The TPCi co-director said they're making that scene a bit more "appropriate" for the US audience (whatever that means) on their blog
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>>30042895
Vikavolt doesn't look weak though. He is supposed to be fast so he could be a perfect Ashmon if they do justice to him.
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>that warning
I mean I know it's general knowledge not to sit too close to the TV when watching something because headaches and eye damage and all that shit, but I have a feeling they added this after the Porygon incident
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>>30042926
Please tell me you're just trolling us...please.

How can they possibly censor an off screen kiss?
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>>30042942
They did.

I think it became standard on other anime after Porygon too, but I might be remembering wrong.
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>>30042823
Well I guess we have the faces and the sounds
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>they forced OLM to literally reanimate the entire scene
>none of Ash's Pokemon are crucified
>Ash isnt screaming
>Ash isn't in physical reeling pain, instead """hypnotized"""
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>>30042956
jump from her going on the escalator to them waving at her and her going to the plane, no one will even notice
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>>30042956
They probably will change lines about goal and attractive woman.
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>>30042763
Seconding
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>>30042808
They gave us an eyeful of full-screen Korrina's puffy vulva, and you think they're gonna censor an off-screen kiss?
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>>30042653
This is bait right?

You know they HAVE to censor anything remotely religious right?

You're not really this retarded right?
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>>30042986
>>30042966
You know, if there was things that convinced me to abandon the TPCi dub permanently, this has to be the final straw. I don't even care that they left the Japanese OST intact for the first 2 SM episodes because it's pretty obvious they'll replace it again for the Series proper and considering all the bad acting and dialogue along with the potential for more edits like this...fuck.
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>>30043022
Why do they like puffyness so much?
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>>30043022
When was Korrina vulva? Two years and two directors ago? You literally cannot excuse this.
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>>30043032
do people STILL really get worked up over this shit? it's 2016 for god's sake not 1999
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>watching the dub
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>>30043032
They don't have to censor anything religious, Anon, they choose to do that themselves because they want to be culturally neutral or whatever.

Stop being a TPCi apologist, man.
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>>30043032
>>30043056
>>30043068
>censorship is okay

They literally forced the animation department half a world away to take the episode and reanimate it to fit their ""standards"". Twelve full minutes.
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>>30043008
Her saying Ash was her goal isn't necessarily romantic though. And she said charming according to subs.
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>>30043056
In America? Yes. yes they do. Having something like that is the FASTEST way to get your shit kicked in my a mob of angry soccer moms
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>>30043035
>was things
stopped reading here
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>>30043074
>Caring about a bunch of Korean animators' time that would otherwise be spent working on American dad or some shit
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>>30043114
Sorry, I meant if there were things: sheesh, cut a guy a break, I'm just sad right now...
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>>30043123
This has literally never happened before, at least not to this degree. It's appalling.
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>>30043113
Next you'll tell me soccer moms would find this change TPCi made necessary as well, Anon:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3TQKpVfEvo
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>>30042259
is it me, or did the animation quality drop immensely?
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>>30043230
It's you.
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>>30042942
It's in every kid's anime since I don't know how long. Hasn't pokemon had these warnings before?
SM is the first subbed pokemon I watch so I have no idea
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>>30043230

The animation is better than ever before.

You might be talking about the new art style.
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>>30043230
Yes
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be nice or Bewear will find you
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>>30043161
>muh foods
No you retard, that is nowhere near the level of something invoking JESUS CHRIST. If you spent a goddamn nanosecond out of your mom's basement, you would know this.

You don't invoke Jesus, or any other real life religious figure in a kids show on western period. You don't even hint at that shit. You WILL get reamed in in by angry parents.

Were you not around at the height of Pokemania when preachers were desperately trying to connect Pokemon to Satan and shit? And you want to give them actual ammo?

10/10 bait anon. you got me good.
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>trying to work on new Sun and Moon season
>trying to animate it as shittily and cheaply as possible
>suddenly these American whittu piggus gaijins come in
>hand me a copy of an episode from that half-assed Flare arc we did just to fill the evil team arc quota
>THIS IS TOO RELIGIOUS
>THE KIDS COULD BE WATCHING
>ASH SHOULD NOT BE IN PAIN
>REANIMATE IT THIS INSTANT! NOOOOW
>now have to reanimate twelve minutes worth of content because whittu piggu

defend this

t. animator
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>>30043230
Must be you.
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>>30043190

>/vp/ finding out the starter leaks were real the entire time
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>>30043275
>You might be talking about the new art style.
that must be it. sorry
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That edit is wierd. Ash has had the snot beaten out of him before (the Full Syncro rebounds spring to mind) and nothing got cut...
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>>30043310
It may also be because TPCi believes that they don't want to see Ash (read: the protagonist) in excruciating pain.

Sega has a similar policy with not wanting Sonic to ever cry.
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>>30043304
Just name it "denialfags"
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>>30043291
I'm not trying to bait you, I'm just saying that TPCi have made really dumb vocal and paint edits of their own- that was the point, man.

Even 4Kids would keep crosses at times back in the day, too...
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Literally WHY
The Turtonator scene wasn't like this
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>>30043190
>[Muffled EEEEEEEEEEEEEE in the distance]
>>30043284
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What did they mean by this?
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>>30043305

No problem. A lot of people have a problem with the art, but look at it from the bright side - the battles will now be even cooler than before.
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>>30043326
And him basically having a heart attack doesn't-?

Did they just want to to do something to flip off CN out the door?
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>>30043353
Subtle foreshadowing.
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>>30043190
>I should have gone to Hoenn!
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>>30043353
Reminds me of the "under a girl's skirt" line from the first opening
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>>30043353
They mean Mallow a cute.
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>>30043340
Normally I'm in agreement, but this one specific instance is actually understandable. Pokemon has been under fire a lot of times for cultural things so it's reasonable that they'd want to play it as safe as possible
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>>30043342
Nice!
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pure and L·O·V·E·L·Y
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>>30043405
Still, you get what I'm trying to say, though, right?
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>you're running carefree down the beach, taking advantage of the nice day
>suddenly you trip
>she notices and rushes to your aid
what do?
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>>30043438
Not really. Even the instance of "keeping the religious references" you posted was very early into the OS season and way before TPC discovered success and began franchising Pokemon and going into deeper, more intricate details about what it should and should not include in its animated mediums. A real-world mongoose appeared in that very same episode.
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>>30043265

I've been watching XY subbed since the beginning, and yes, that warning appears on every single episode.
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>>30043472
>why the fuck does your hair look so weird?
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>>30043472
Stop taking advantage of the nice day and start taking advantage of her
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>>30042957
Other kids anime yeah.
But thabks to it all anime dims the screen during broadcast whenever there is a really flash bright scene.
Well, not all but I see it often enough.
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>>30043472
Force her to feed me a bowl of eggs
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>>30043472
>"Arora!"
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>>30043472
>nice hat
>walk away
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>>30043483
What I meant was TPCi are guilty of their own forms of censorship like 4Kids were back in the day, really, that was the take home message, but that is true.
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Damn... I'm not one to criticize the dub, but damn. Lysandre's voice acting was flatter than day old soda in that performance.
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>>30043423
Ash cute, CUTE!
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>>30043532
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EEFlxJqcwA
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>>30043472
>hi! have you seen my girlfriend?
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>>30043595
What the fuck does that even mean?

Is this a Serebii post you copied and pasted, Scott?
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>>30043608
shit didn't mean to make that a reply
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>>30043353
Dunno, what does it mean?
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>tfw Lillie will never love you as an object of study
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>>30043617

It means, it reminds me old OLD english anime dubs. And that's not a good thing.

And who the fuck is Scott?
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>>30042480
>Not wanting angriest bird
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>>30043385
Mallow is a big girl in that pic.
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>>30043617
If you leave soda out unsealed, it loses the carbonation, and gets called "flat"

What he's saying is that Lysandre has pretty much no emotion. Monotone even
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>>30043691
>wanting another normal/flying type
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>>30043691
Toucannon looks too much like a real Toucan, making it angry doesn't make it any better.
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>>30043472
>mfw too beta to talk to a girl
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Japanese anime character poll.
1. Lillie (48%)
2. Suiren (20%)
3. Mao (17%)
4. Kaki (11%)
5. Fat guy (2%)

RIP Sophocles

Speaking of which, Lillie is also super-popular with the Tumblr crowd for obvious reasons. They all ship her with Chicken.
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>campuSolrock
>The pleasure is miNuckrar
it took me a minute

>suberBangiras
>Go on, Porygon, Yabukuron
yeah I got nothing
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>>30043801
Degenerates.
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How would you comfort her when she finds out her son died in Alola?
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>>30043801
Is Suiren second because she looks like a boy?
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>>30043801
>it's another Japan has awful taste episode
Move along, nothing to see here folks

muh nebby
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aw jeez
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>>30043832
Cuddle her after a nice date-o
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KISSU
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>>30043801
>there are people who actually voted for the fat fuck
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>>30043595
Twitter is going ballistic over the latest dub episode- terrible even by TPCi standards according to them, so I'd say you're not alone.

These comments are hilarious.
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>>30043832
Help her make a new one
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>YO
>[muffled Vanilla Ice in the distance]
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Anyone else shipping Ash & Lana?
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>>30043786
It kinda does
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>>30043801
I expected to see a bigger difference to be honest.
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>>30043911
what was censored?
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>>30043922
I've been shipping Ash & Pikachu since forever

Looks like I've been right the whole time, Pikachu is the best buddy ever
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>>30043815
Must be some kind of japanese wordplay.
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>>30043801
>Lana in second
I'm okay with this
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>>30043943
See >>30042653 for details, though I can't stop laughing at the fan reaction.
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>>30043943
If you saw this episode in Japanese/subbed you will immediately understand what is off here >>30042653
>>30042795
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>>30043922
It's obvious they will ship her with Ash, just watching the first few minutes of episode 1 makes it clear.
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>[rap music gets louder and more aggressive]
Team Skull are fucking weird
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>more conitinuity than in whole XY in two lines
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>>30043801
Ouch, even with the obvious pushing, Mallow is even behind Lana. I guess there's plenty of time for that to change if they're actually intent on keeping her as the main girl though.
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>>30043801
Japan sure loves the loli.
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>>30043894
You mean this?
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I've never really watched the Pokemon anime so I started with Sun and Moon since it's new and I heard that it's like a reset in a way.

The animations pretty nice now.
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>>30043850
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoW9czgQBqE

THANK YOU MR. VEGGIES

WHERE ARE MY BERRIES THAT ARE APPLES IN TPCI LAND?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKDV-rGRI8M
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>>30043998
Not surprising, they design such sexy ones.
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Did the UK even air SM1&SM2 yet? Was that not ***today***?
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>>30043697
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>>30044008
It's not a reset they just changed the artstyle.
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>>30044033
No, its tomorrow.
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>>30043291
This is loser thinking. Religious nuts are always going to satisfy their demonisation fetish no matter what you show them. Besides, as much as the fucking Christians want to think otherwise, crucifixions aren't exclusively for their own use.

As some anon already said, it's 2016. Parents need to get with the times and TPCi needs to stop caving in to them for every little detail. Take a fucking chance, would you?
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>>30043801
Shit taste. Fucking nips.
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>>30044038
It's starting to grow on me desu I thought I was going to hate it at first but it's actually alright
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>>30044033
Didn't CITV air XY's preview the week it came out?

That means it'll be next week over here.
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>>30044048
Oh ok so the massacre can continue then
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>>30044062
Actually Mallow and Lana's ranking after just 2 episodes as opposed to their smaller roles in the game is quite something. Anime Lilie definitely isn't as popular as game Lilie.
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>>30043992
Who wants to predict Lillie's probably predictable character arc?
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>>30043922
>tomboyish looking
>Kuudere voice
The ship drives itself.
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Has Ash gone back for Pidgeot yet?
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>>30044038
Might as well be. Really.
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>eyes closed
>hands together

Cal confirmed christian
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>>30043342
Heh
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>>30044114
Who?
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>>30044053
>let's deliberately piss off our primary source of income for the anime. That'll certainly go well
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>>30044120
Not really, we saw him giving his Kalos pokemon to Oak and this scene >>30043992 He also recognized Charizard.
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>>30044114
No, even Primeape has a bigger chance to come back.
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>>30044090
They're actually not going to butcher the OST for SM just yet and left it alone, though I expect it'll be a repeat of either BW or XY's dub where they either go back and reshit the two episodes up with xylophones and accordion elevator UFO tune style dub music, or keep the OST intact for the first 5 episodes before replacing more & more of it as time passes.

Still can't save TPCi's horrible voice acting & lousy dialogue changes, regardless, dub is bad either way.
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>>30043983
>>30044023
Just wait until Guzma appear. I hope they use his game theme.
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Didn't TPCi keep christ pose in previous ep?
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>>30044172
When are America going to fly another airliner into an office tower and blame it on Dubai so they can invade them? If they're looking for target suggestions I nominate the building the dub works out of.
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>>30042653
kek

dubfags will STILL defend the dub anyway.
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>>30044110
Her Haphephobia is in relation to her mother (who is still mother of the year material as par the games) it gets better with aloan vulpix but comes back with a vengeance when the Ultra Beasts show up.
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>>30043925
No, it doesn't. It's american kirby tier design.
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>>30044110
She is afraid of pokemon because her mother forced her to "merge" with Nihilego.
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>>30044201
Yes, TPCi's dub is just getting worse & worse with time: even the Movies aren't safe from them anymore, whereas they were with 4Kids later on.

We can only hope Goldfarb isn't still on board for the main SM series and the first 2 episodes keeping the OST aren't just a sneak peek only phenomenon like it was with XY, though I have a strong feeling it will be...regardless, the dub's acting & dialogue are bad either way, but the crappy elevator stuff does nothing to alleviate the issues.
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>>30043801
Wonder if this will change when the realize Mallow is the main girl.
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may god have mercy on your souls

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2RPpaGvqXM
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>>30043801
Lillie dominating as expected. I'm surprised Lana is second.
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>>30043858
It's because she is a loli.
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>>30044302
Ash sounds even more effeminate than usual...o_O...and high pitched. I mean, it's still better than the gravelly chain-smoking woman voice Natochenny did this week, but neither of them sounds like a boy.

Oh, and Team Rocket's voices and dialogue are still bad in the dub: "delish," really?

That elevator score with my hero Ed Goldfarb is just exactly what I imagined, too.

Honestly, TPCi's dub is an Abridged Parody at this point, but thanks for the video, man, still appreciate it.
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In other news, Ash Greninja is really freakin good in the games. It's easy to nab a kill if you aren't retarded and it can catch a couple of bodies before it goes.
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>>30043801

Japan likes loli's, what else is new? Seems like big boobed girls are on their way out in Japan.
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>>30044302
>dub
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>>30044364
>Grrrr SM is TOO EASY!!
>t. transferred and actively use Ash-Greshitter
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>>30044134
If the position of a guy's hands when he's restrained pisses you off because it somewhat resembles some other dude who did it (which is totally okay for him to show it in public, by the way, so nice double standard there), alongside the fact that people get their asses kicked while captured, then you really need to reevaluate the priorities in your life.
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>>30044361
>TPCi's dub is an Abridged Parody at this poin

That's exactly what I thought when I heard Rolly (Racel in Japanese) speak for the first time.
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>To the people complaining about the dub changes, as someone who has never seen the original Japanese, I found absolutely nothing wrong with the scenes in question.

Literal quote from some guy in the Serebii thread about the episode.
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>>30044378
Not his fault the dub is shit, blame TPCi.

>>30044377
Hi Scott.
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>>30044397
Good to know it's not just me: this is honestly getting hilariously bad, at least.

>>30044402
Serebii being retarded as usual- nothing new.
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>>30044395
>implying the complaints of religious nuts ever make a modicum of sense
I think they're retarded, but they have power, so they gotta be respected
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>>30044273

>>30044273

>>30044273

For Specialbros, plot details are out for Mizuki's adventure.
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TPCi also changed Lenora's design in BW anime. Apron was gone, if I remember right.
Also pretty big change.
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>>30044491
That wasn't TCPi. That was Japan, which then gave TCPi the edit instead of the original.
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>>30044490
>Hau not in the anime
>HAU NOT IN SPECIAL

AWWWWWW SHIIIIIT
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>>30044491
That was done by the Japanese. A change that big could not have been done by a dub edit. The scenes were redrawn by OLM for western audiences.
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>>30044512
He can still appear later though.
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Hmm... The episode don't seem as exciting on the second watch with subs on. It's just an exposition-fest with Ash being some super special chosen one for no good reason again.
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>>30044506
>>30044514
TPCi still mandated TPC Japan's animators to do that Lenora design edits, though, it's not edited out in the Japanese Version itself, so it is partially their responsibility.

It's got nothing on what they did to Ash in XYZ here, though, this actually affects the character in a way, and THAT is a kind of edit that is truly harmful.
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>>30044533
Wow anon, it's almost like you're watching every Pokemon series ever.
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>>30044533
So it's finally sinking in that "it was underwhelming" wasn't damage control, as shitposters kept spamming, eh?
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>>30044554
Lenora's character was edited across all mediums of the Pokemon franchise, not just the anime. This included redos of her BW1 artwork.
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>>30044554
Doing away with the apron is an understandable edit. Obviously in Japan there aren't many black women and they weren't aware it could be viewed as a racist stereotype overseas.
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>>30044533
Its literally the first two episodes. Of course there's going to be a lot of exposition.

We won't be able to accurately judge Sun/Moon until about 25 episodes or so. Then we'll have an idea where the season is going.
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Woah, they actually made a pretty big censor in the dub.

Are they gonna censor Citroid's death?

Are they gonna censor kissu???
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>>30044586
I agree, but just saying this is the case.

>>30044571
I'm aware, but just pointing this out.
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>>30044533
>It's just an exposition-fest with Ash being some super special chosen one for no good reason again
You don't say. I actually enjoyed the episode more since I could understand what they said.
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>>30044564
>>30044565
>>30044610

I'm far from giving any verdict. I just felt like it was a bit more comfy on the first watchthrough without subs.
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>>30044617
>tfw 4Kids would have made them animate the kissu from an angle we could actually see it
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>>30044617
Come to think of it, what are Disney XD's standards on violence and such? I know DBZ Kai had to get a bunch of content edits just to air on nicktoons. Like they couldn't show direct hits IIRC
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>>30043353
>>30043385
>>30043396
It's referring to Lillie, she's the one on-screen when that bit is sung
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>>30044617
>Are they gonna censor kissu???
How do you censor censored kiss
>yfw scene redrawn showing that kiss was on cheek
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>>30044617
If this was made on CN's insistance then nah. Otherwise, panic.
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>>30044617
Possible on the latter considering Cathcart rewrote a dub line where Ash says "Lapras is going downhill fast" instead of "If we leave Lapras here, it'll die" in the last episode of Season 17's dub.

I doubt it in the second case, though, it's off screen so the kiss isn't visible.
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>tfw Z-move Ash-Greninja in the end of SM
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>>30044617
Hopefully, that way the point finally gets across to you bunch of newfags: the dub is, has, and will be garbage for the forseeable future.
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Redpill me on Lana. What's her appeal?
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>>30044665
The two part finale of the Flare arc had the gym leaders being smacked around a bit. Wonder if they'll do anything about that.
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>>30044711
>it's just the orange shuriken
>it does nothing, again
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>>30044734
>Redpill
Go back to whatever garbage place you came from.
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>>30043815
>>30043953
He just takes the last letter of the word in the line and adds a Pokemon name that starts with that letter. Not too complicted.

And that last pun is just a rhyme.
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>>30044649
>tfw 4Kids would've still kept the Japanese music in the Diancie, Hoopa, and Volcanion Movies unlike TPCi, and not made cuts, based on their dubs of all the last 3 AG Movies
>tfw Veronica Taylor would probably be a better Ash than Sarah Natochenny if she still voiced him now
>tfw James wouldn't sound congested if 4Kids was still in charge, Meowth wouldn't sound gravelly, and Jessie wouldn't sound so high pitched
>tfw TR would still talk like human beings in the dub
>tfw the intros would actually still be good

Feels bad, man: this is why the Japanese Version is the only way to watch Pokemon now.
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>>30044617
>yfw they show them lip kiss on the dub because OLM wanted to shut up all the shitposters
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>>30044665
Cannie mind violence (though they did air Digimon which never really shyed away from its violence) but the other stuff should be ok.

Yokai Watch and Doraemon didn't have much cut iirc.
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>>30044797
>yfw this never happens and it's just the same off screen kissu scene as it was in the Japanese version
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>>30044665
>>30044815
Irrelevant.
TPCI still can cut content to americanize.
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>>30044884
Just linking this since I feel it's relevant at this point: https://board.sonicstadium.org/profile/6129-dejimon11/?status=822906&reply=1917575&type=status
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>>30044884
Aye but that wasn't what was asked. The dood asked for XD's s&p.
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>>30044676
>the city of lMAO
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>>30044920
"Yeah, there's no heart in the dub anymore. The dialogue is stale and uninteresting. The only characters who get halfway creative lines is Team Rocket, and everything they say sounds ridiculous anymore. They seem to rarely even use any of the old voice talent from the 4Kids days aside from Carter Cathcart, Kayzie Rogers, and Ted Lewis. The new dude who composes the dub music is subpar, and John Loeffler hasn't composed a good theme for the series since 4Kids lost the show. Nothing about the dub is BAD, per se, but it's just...subpar.

Okay, there is one bad thing: Team Rocket. Every line of dialogue they have is terrible. And for the love of goodness, they brought back Professor Oak's voice actor, but keep using Jimmy Zoppi's horrible imitation? Gah."
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>>30044665
>XD
Fuck off.
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>>30044964
They obviously meant Disney XD, the station.
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>>30044906
I remember when dubfags tried to defend that Diantha battle by saying the music fit with the "mystery of Ash-Greninja"

fucking kek
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>>30044981
>being this much of a newfag
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>>30044981
My little newfag can't be this new
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>>30044998
They'll defend anything at this point: explains why sinus issues James' dub voice has lasted for a decade despite even most of the US fandom aside from them hating it.
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Here guys. Like I promised here is the subs comparison. Guess I'll put it in every post where I link people to kissanime to watch early subs as a judgement call.
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>>30044964
I hate this meme
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>>30045050
Left is the shit subs right
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>>30045050
Autism.
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>>30045050
> Japanese names
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>>30045083
of coursh
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>>30045093
this is the Pokemon Anime Discussion Thread.
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Just watched a bit of the dubbed version of the new Volcanion movie, and was curious if anyone knows who voiced Volcanion, as it sounds like Mike Pollock through a filter to me.
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>>30045126
>watching the dub
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>>30044734
She's extremely cute and definitely not a slut like the other two
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>>30045126
>I watch the dub
>dog_with_hat_on.jpg
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>>30045050
Both of those convey the message well
Pick a better scene to cherrypick
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>>30044238
There is something wrong with Kirby's design?
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>>30042259
It's nice to see Ash go on a journey with a bigger group rather than just one or two extras.
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>>30045135
I haven't really started watching the show in Japanese until the later part of XYZ, which has me learning the ropes for stuff like >>30045050
in regards to the quality of subs on youtube
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>>30045126
It's Mike Pollock, though he doesn't save that dub as a whole by any means. He was also the interim narrator from AG020-AG145 before 4Kids got canned, fun fact.
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The dub edit is actually a good thing.

You don't want these kids learning about Christianity and then becoming terrorists, do you?
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>>30044734
She's extremely cute and just as slutty as the other two, but tricks you into thinking otherwise.
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>>30045150
>Stop on our motorcycles
If you're an ESL, sure.
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>>30045138
>Lana
>not a slut
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>>30045050
The shitsub is pretty good to be honest. Nowhere as bad as some shit on YouTube.
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>>30045179
Yup, clearly Christianity shouldn't be learned about, because exposing kids to different religions is so bad...there aren't people with different beliefs, right? Bullshit. The dub edit is stupid.
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Team Rocket is returning next episode
What do you think of this?
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>>30045138
> not a slut
She hopes there were male swimmers for her to orgasm over in her trial in the game and then laments over how none were present.
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>>30045210
That's the good sub......
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>>30045271
Good.
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>>30045157
Not, but there is something wrong with american kirby's design.
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>>30045277
Lana is a pure and wholesome girl
She's just admiring their professional technique you pervert
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>>30045150
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>>30045277
Anime Lana has a kuudere voice so she is likely to be the purest girl.
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>>30045335
i mean, there's several "cat" pokemon. You can just assume there's several "rooster-type" pokemon out there.
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>>30045367
>kuudere being the most pure
Oh how much you have to learn
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Its kinda ironic Lana is another female water pokemon trainer like Misty. Its like this is the first time we're seeing a new girl do the exact same thing as Misty, rather than being somewhat similar like Iris.

Is Lana the new Misty?
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>>30045293
No?
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>>30045401
But she's not a bitch
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>>30045312
Expect her to have a running gag like KEEPU where instead she tries to find a husband for herself.
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>>30045401
Fuck off, Scott.
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>>30045395
So do you apparently, airheads, onee-sans and imoutos usually are the sluttiest.
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What i've seen so far. I don't really like S&M. I loved XY Ash and I am glad Ash didn't reset but how the hell did he become so childish again? Love the new OP though
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>>30045634
I think they'll tone down SM Ash as the saga progresses. These episodes were in production months ago before they were aware of the backlash of the new design or art style.
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Who is the subber for S&M. It can't be Sushi because she's slow right?
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>>30045657
Adamant.
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>>30045634
It's his first time in who knows how long that he's able to let his hair down and do something other than try to win become a regional champion. I'm good with him being a bit goofy and having fun.
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>>30045657
Adamant.
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>>30044795
What do people have against Volcanion's english songs anyway? Particularly the ED, it was great!
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>>30045652
I'll keep watching though, and I don't mind his childish attitude, remember when XY started and he ran Kalos like a little kid. I hope they do change his art though, it just looks really ugly and makes him look 7. Lillie is really cute though gotta admit
>>
I miss Brock/Takeshi
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>Dynamic Full Flame
>Not Inferno Overdrive

I thought they wanted consistency?
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>>30045657
We've gotten Saturday subs from Sushi before
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>>30045751
See >>29982888
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Is the new Ash design receiving lots of backlash?
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>>30045848
Yeah, Japan is producing shit tons of art mocking it, and that's rather unusual.
>>
Oh hey, the mermaids are back
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>>30045751
The text on the screen doesn't say Inferno Overdrive though.
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It's taimu
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>>30045848
Not so much like many here think, some are making fun of his look but that's it.
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>>30045705
When other subbers go a bit off, they are labeled 'shitsubs'.
When Adamant writes something like 'You skull listen to what my brother here says', it's ok because he's having fun. Nice logic.
and the guy who quotes me saying I'm shitposting, thanks, that would mean my point got across.
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>>30045937
What?
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>>30045937
Surely you understand that "You skull listen" is an attempt to replicate the wordplay that takes place, which the other subs completely ignore, right?
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>>30045937
>not knowing about Japanese speech quirks
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>>30043472
>be me
>new trainer
>just got starter
>it's my new bro litten
>running on beach to get to island trials
>if we succeed, we'll be respected by many
>trip on fucking nothing but my own autism
>try to dust myself off
>"Are you all right?"
>it's a girl's voice
>look up and see 10/10 cutie
>try not to look up her skirt
>don't sperg out don't sperg out
>"Yeah, I'm fine, thanks."
>this cutie actually offers me her hand to help me get up
>I take it
>I try to stand up
>my foot gets on my bro littens tail
>now litten is sperging out
>it fucking uses a fire type move
>it just barely misses the cutie's face
>she screams
>she runs away
>my starter is now pissed at me
>mfw
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>SM just came out
> string of fillers ep tier disscusion

I thought SM was "great"
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>>30045937
...you realize there was a skull pun in the Japanese line too, right?
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>>30046125
You don't have a face.
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>>30045937
You're just ignorant, anon. Shitposting implies you're at least half aware of how retarded you're being.
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>finally found the Solgaleo version of the Lillie credits picture
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>>30046375
lillie tying her hair up makes me mad to no end, even if it's appropriate.
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>>30046375
>riding a sunlion is cooler than just standing around with the moonbat
>but the Lunala version of this is better
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>>30046134
SM has only been overhyped as shit by waifu niggers. From what we have seen it will okey but hardly any special. Especially now when they pander to an even younger target audience.
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>>30046375
Moon version is better.
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Tell me, anons; how many hours has she spent since the Kalos League lying awake at night crying her heart out because she raised a failure who can't beat a chuuni faggot's Fire type Charizard with his special OC Don't Steal powered up Water type Greninja?
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>>30046540
Not even the same arm.
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>>30046540
>le ebic jojo referwnce XD
End yourself
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>>30046540
SYMBOLISM
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>>30046540
He looks even more mexican than before now. Especially now when it looks like he has pre teen pubic hair on his face

>>30046575
No hours. Don't know what kind of garbage mother you had.
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Pokenchi stream was lagging really bad.

Don't think the preview had much new though.
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>be trying to sync up the YUKI M19 ED to the dub credits to see if it'll match up
>mfw the length of the fade outs between scenes are cut down, making a whole bunch of shit between the track and the video off sync
>mfw I don't have the patience to manually stitch things up

fuck it December's not that far away is it, I'll wait for the good superior shit
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>>30046575
Megazard X is fire/dragon faggot.
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>>30046652
At least we can see Mimikyu can extend his arm(?)
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>>30046680
Still no excuse for losing with an OC powered up Greninja. Fuck the executive who mandated the loss, fuck him to the darkest pits of hell.
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>>30046713
Yeah, but I think they showd this scene in another prview too.
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James looks pretty good.
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>>30046652
Will Team Rocket actually catch it.
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>>30043019
>>30042763
Here you go, guys, TPCi's censorship for you:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qz5IHg4r4ME&feature=youtu.be
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>>30046808
We saw him attacking Pikachu but the pic looks like he can extend his arm pretty far, might be the perspective though.
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>>30046825
Pokemon Fan was very unclear. It might just be a recurringmon.
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>>30046814
James will always look good.
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>>30046889
So they won't catch anything this season, Bewear also looks like he will be a recurrent wild pokemon.
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>>30046853
This looks ridiculous.
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>>30043801
>Lillie is also super-popular with the Tumblr crowd for obvious reasons. They all ship her with Chicken.
Just as god and Sugimori intended.
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>>30046930
Here's the page in question, and here's what the bit on those two Pokemon says:

>The Strong Arm Pokémon KITERUGUMA: Type Normal/Fighting

>It may look cute, but it's super strong! When Satoshi encountered one in the forest, he just barely avoided getting attacked!
>(Blurb: It got the Rocket Gang!? Where could it be going...?)

>The Disguise Pokémon MIMIKKYU: Type Ghost/Fairy

>It wants to be popular like Pikachu, so it imitates one. It's a rival to Satoshi's Pikachu!
>(Blurb: Nyarth is seized by a nightmare! This Pokémon is seriously scary.)

You be the judge.
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https://twitter.com/hadenshi/status/800120114716643328 New preview
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>>30046814
He looks a bit younger.
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>>30046993
It really is: TPCi are just ordering edits for the sake of it this time around.
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>>30046993
>they put this much effort into censoring something that only the most retarded biblefag would link to religious imagery
>they don't put any effort into the actual dub
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>TPCI can pay to have 12 MINUTES of footage redrawn
>but can't hire good actors
Really fires up the neurons.
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>>30047045
TPCi can't hire a better script writer, either, JCC was the worst writer of the 4Kids seasons, and they just had to keep him and can the rest...now Team Rocket is his bitch in terms of all the unfunny dialogue he shoves down their throats & the unfunny slang he gives to the protagonists, too.

Also, Ed Goldfarb's elevator BGM replacing the Japanese OST throughout XY-XYZ, too, wonderful.
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>>30043878
>You skill listen
what did he mean by this
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>>30043878
>>30047105
It's a pun, EOPs.
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>>30044269
>>30044361
>>30044269
hey uh can you mention anything else but how much you hate Cathcart and Goldfarb and the elevator music
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>>30047155
Yes, I'm just in a dub bashing mood right now: I liked the 2 SM episodes, seems like a comfy ride so far.
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>>30047155
Yes. Any other company would have fired Wayland the second he admitted to not doing his job, but it literally took him raping someone to finally be canned. Sarah Natochenny smokes more than China's industrial centers, ruining her voice and they still keep her. Kiri/Concetta. Electrode the Voltorb. AlléHoopaRing.
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>>30047201
bashing involves taking the shit out of various aspects of a thing - you constantly seem to be focusing on two/three specific things and ignoring all the other problems

I almost feel like you have some sort of personal connection to two people you hate so much

with the amount of times I've had to tell you to chill and think I feel like we're like pic related
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>>30047002
You can see Bewear holding Team Rocket and Mimikyu. If they don't catch it why is it with them?
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>>30047002
Wobbuffet is holding something on his arms, an egg?
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>>30047296
I don't, they're just the major problems with the dub: this Anon adds on to more issues with the dub I didn't mention already- >>30047263.

And yet, dubfags will STILL insist there's nothing wrong with the dub, that's what bugs me.
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New bred:
>>30047342
>>30047342
>>30047342
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>>30047338
A net filled with berries.
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