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Is balance chopstick the most op UB?

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Is balance chopstick the most op UB?
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>>30027019
pheromosa is.
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>>30027029
but all it can do is hit really, really hard
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>>30027019
on paper, maybe.
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I have had 0 trouble with it, maybe my team just naturally counters it.
Someone post examples of it sweeping or breaking through walls or something because those stats tell me it should be fucking borked but whenever I fight it all it does it either set up and die or just land a semi strong hit and die.
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>>30027400
carlos...?
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>>30027400
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>>30027019
>low bp moves
it's shit
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>litten used ember!
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>>30027422
well, it got weak as fuck STABs, so its power is kinda dampened before getting the first Beast Boost
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>>30027019
In b4
Charmander's Quick Claw let it move first!
Charmander used ember
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>>30027463
Quick question, does anyone know what beast boost does if a UB has two equal stats?

please don't say they both get boosted
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>>30027019
Pheremosa is better just because it has beter moves to abuse. Its second though.

Pheremosa > Kartana > Xurkitree > Nihilego and Celesteela > Buzzwole > Guzzlord
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>>30027547
I think the priorities are Attack > Def > Spattk > Sp Def > Speed
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>>30027019
>vulpix used fire spin
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>>30027029
>Dies to any priority move ever
>op
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>>30027019
You have to run Kartana with a Z-Move to nab the really crucial KOs, especially against those Pokemon that can hit its abysmal special defense stat. Fortunately its movepool of sword techniques lend it several attacks of different types to Z-Strike with.
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>>30027029
>Scizor used Vacuum Wave
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>>30027654
>252+ Atk Life Orb Bisharp Sucker Punch vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Pheromosa: 87-103 (59.1 - 70%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
>252+ Atk Huge Power Azumarill Aqua Jet vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Pheromosa: 90-106 (61.2 - 72.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
now THAT made me think
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>>30027572
>TFW my favorite UB is the worst overall
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>>30027572
Nihilego isn't that great I think.
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>>30027458
>implying it wouldn't outspeed Litten
>implying it wouldn't outspeed anything in the Litten line
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>>30027776
DELETE THIS
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>>30027019
>charmander used ember

no, literally, do the calcs. Charmander ember will kill it. It's super frail on the special side and while it's decently fast, anything that moves faster and carries a neutral or better special move off of 95 spA or more can OHKO.
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>>30027715
To be fair, Pheromosa resists sucker punch twice, and Azumarill unboosted can't hit for fuck all even with full attack investment and huge power.
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think of it like a massive iron sphere.

It's hard to get rolling, but once it starts it's very hard to stop.
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>>30027019
I see Pheremosa getting more usage.
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>>30027029
>Bravest Bird used Sneaky Feathers!
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>>30028370
>Using a NU mon in Ubers just to attack Pheremosa.
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>>30028396
KEK
E
K
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>>30027019
Absolutely barren movepool, it needs move tutors for Iron Head ASAP.
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>>30028100
Bug does not resist dark.
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>>30027019
>litten used ember
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>>30027029
mega beedrill used hp grass
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>>30028100
Not the same poster, but bug doesn't resist dark, it's just duper effective against it.
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If you send it out against a physical attacker that it resists, you can sub/SD and work wonders. But it's yoo much of a glass cannon most of the time and its speed lets it fall behind of a number of threats that it could otherwise destroy with ease (Mega-Diancie for instance).
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>>30029072
Sucker Punch is Ghost though.
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>>30027019
>ferrothorn used hidden power fire
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>>30027307

And that's great for it. Hitting really hard is a very valuable asset, especially for HO teams.

Pheromosa has at least 4 usable sets, and it will get more moves when the next games come out and their tutor moves are revealed. Pheromosa will simply get better in the upcoming years.
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>>30028100
>Azumarill unboosted can't hit for fuck all even with full attack investment and huge power.

You do know Azumarril hits as hard as Deoxys-N, right, as it has the equlivant of base 150 attack with Huge Power?

Huge Power doesn't double your BASE attack stat, it doubles your ACTUAL attack stat in general.
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>>30027019
chimchar uses ember
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>>30027019
>Shuckle used HP-fire
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>Greninja used Water Shuriken!
>it hit 5 times!
>wild Kartashit fainted!
>Greninja's Battle Bond activated!
>proceed to 6-0 my opponent
Your ub tears are delicious lmao
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>>30033433
>wild
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>>30027019
IT'S 1 FOOT TALL
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>>30027029
It is. Till Buff skitter comes on its way. LITERALLY can wall it, ive been using it to stop its HJKs and all that shit while getting a free bulk up
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>>30033433
Dude. Lets play on smogon.
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>>30027572
Celesteela is better than xurkitree and arguably kartana
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>>30027572
Not really.
Surprisingly, they are all at least quite good.

Pheromosa > Celesteela (future OU monster staple) > Kartana > Buzzwole = Xurkitree > Nihilego = Guzzlord
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>>30027572
>tfw got an adamant pheramosa
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>>30034507
You had 4 chances, so... I guess good job?
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>>30029072
Fighting does
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>>30033433
>Startershit
>KOing anything
>Ever
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