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Why?
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>>29995911
Double battles
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>>29995911
>heh, nice Guts user fag
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>>29995990
And damage the teammate?
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>>29995911
Does Sparkling Aria bypass Substitute?
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>>29996015

>Water Absorb isn't a thing
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I assume it works like smelling salts
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>>29996074
Then it wont take effect
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>>29996074
The only Pokemon people would really use that has Water Absorb is Volcanion, and he is fire anyway
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>>29996074
Water absorb makes the move not connect.
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>>29996074
Wouldn't Water Absorb cancel the effect too?
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>>29995997
>nice Guts user fag
>caring to remove Guts on a Guts user, who is most likely a fighting type
>not just using a STAB SE Fairy move
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>>29996074
Since Pokemon with Water Absorb don't have an animation when hit with water moves, I don't think it can heal their burns.
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>>29996114
Correct
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It seems like it was supposed to work like smellingsalts, where it would do double damage THEN cure the burn, and would make a combo with scald or something else to burn the target

But then they didn't do that for some reason
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>>29996093
It doesn't
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>>29995911

what happens the you poor water on a burning object ??

answer: it stops burning
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>>29996116
>What is Swellow
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>make a HA that turns sound moves into water
>give it to a mon that has a water sound move with the exact same BP
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>>29996409
1. Swellow would die from any attack
2. Swellow is burned from its Burn Orb. It get burned at end of turn then goes before Primarina the next turn.
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>>29995911
I'm picking primarina but this is something that actually disapoints me. The other 2 starter get good useful moves, something not so common for starter's signature moves, but primarina gets a attack that has a side effect that ruins it, Surf with sound properties would had been okay, but then you add the ability to heal the opponent burn and it is not okay anymore.

More frustating is that you need this to use its signature Z move. I'm just gonna be using Sparkling Aria in-game for the Z move.
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>>29996406
>poor
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>>29996114
>>29996112
>>29996106
I trolled you hard newfags holy shit kek
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>>29996438
Water hyper voice is still better than this, but that will only happen in doubles.
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>>29995911
>they actually made a move that's useless in almost every way
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>>29996438
it gets aquate or hydrate or whatever?

also didn't they nerf -ate abilities?
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>>29996406
Unless it's an oil or electrical fire.
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>>29997817
"i was merely pretending to be retarded!" kys
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>>29998143
liquid voice. It just changes sound moves not all normal moves to water but there's no damage boost.
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>>29995911
Interger overflow. There is such a thing as healing so much it turns into damage. That doesn't happen in Pokemon though so it's useless shit.
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>>29996409
>who is most likely a fighting type
>most likely
reading is hard
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>>29995911
Damage should have doubled if it actually heals a burn
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>>29996409
>swellow
>special attacker
>caring about a burn
o my lel
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Honestly I can only come up with a couple of explanations for everything they did with Primarina.

>they think water/fairy is way too overpowered and went overboard on nerfing it to compensate
>they just plain dislike it

I'm inclined towards the latter. At least the issues with the other two can come down to standard bad stat distribution, and the movesets can ultimately be salvaged. With Primarina you get a signature move that is Surf with a negative effect, and an Ability that is an -ate without the thing that makes them good. Those are the kind of things they'd have to go out of their way for.

Oh and the obligatory gender ratio mention.
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I think the idea is that you're supposed to burn them with Scald, then heal the burn to get extra damage on Sparkling Aria.
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>>29995911
>free full restore for your dry skinned ally
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>>29999728
Except it doesn't deal bonus damage against burns.

>>29999800
I'm willing to bet the burn heal effect doesn't work unless it does damage.
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>>29995990
>>29995911
More like for Battle Royale
Also the odd chance of a Guts user using Flame Orb instead of Toxic
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I guess it could be a counter for Guts Flame Orb users....


..yeah it still sucks
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>>29995990
The move has like 90 Base Power. it would put your teammate that doesn't resist water in fainting range. This is possibly the second worst signature move ever.
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>>29998187
>Sparkling Aria doesn't affect burned A. Muk
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>>29996409
>Wasting an entire move slot to remove the burn of a Pokemon that will be burned again at the end of the turn anyways
>Probably will kill it anyways because it is as powerful as surf and Swellow is frail as balls
>Will also probably encounter Specs Swellows with scrappy Boomburst and that new 75 SpA.
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>>30000511
There's actually a worse one out there?

Is there a worse ability while we are at it? Because Primarina's is definitely at the bottom.
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>>29995911


Someone actually try to attack their own pokemon in a double battle with this?

Gamefreak already fucked up a lot, maybe this move would be like pollen puffs that damage the opponent but heal your partner if you attack him
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>>30000322
It's not even really a counter to Guts+Flame Orb. Almost all Guts users are faster than Primarina, so hitting them with Sparkling Aria does nothing as they got the hit first and they restore the burn at the end of the turn. And every other guts user pretty much dies to Moonblast or Hydro Pump. Is there possibly a signature move that isn't present or some shit like hold hands that is as useless as Sparkling Aria?
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>>30000674
Present, Delibird's signature move uses random damage variables like Magnitude, but one variable can heal the target. And also maybe Hold Hand. Not 100% sure if it is a signature move and hold back which may also not be a signature move and also has outside uses.
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>>30000847
At least Present has a chance of dealing higher damage too, it's just a gamble ability. There is literally no reason to use Sparkling Aria ever unless you want to use the Z-move, in which case you could just use the generic water z-move instead.
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>>29995911
For fuck's sake ANOTHER one of these fucking threads. It is a Water version of Wake-Up Slap and Smellingsalt for the last fucking time and 9 times out of 10 you aren't going to fucking use it because Scald is literally the best Water type move in the game right now

Holy fuck why is /vp/ so goddamn autistic about this one mediocre aspect of an all around mediocre Pokemon? Fucking get laid
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>>30000929
>It is a Water version of Wake-Up Slap and Smellingsalt
Except it isn't
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>>29995911
lol did they really make that into a move?
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>>29999999
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Wait, it DOESN'T do double damage to burned targets?
Then that is just shitty.
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>>29996409
A boomburst user
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>>29995911
Honestly, I thought it was going to be a Wake Up Slap or a Smelling Salts but with Burn type of dynamic.
The fuck is Gayfreaks up to with this crap?
Gimmicks.
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