STRAIGHT TO NU

Straight to PU

>Frail Fire/dark type

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>>29989746

no, really, frail and slow fire/dark type.

if this is not NU, what is?

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>>29989780
Litten fags still in denial

>>29989780
Torracat has 90 speed
Incineroar has 60 spped

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>>29989886
Feels good to be an owl fag

>>29989920
None of the 3 starters would even make it to UU. Decidueye has 70 speed (hence bad offense) and bad defensive typing

>>29989746
Trick room exists you idiot

>>29990029

why would you waste so many ressources to make a shitmon somewhat more viable?

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>>29990016
Decidueye is definitely going to be UU at least with a good movepool backing it up and there are other pokemon to use to get past its weaknesses

>>29989769
>"Frail"
I'm sorry, but you are retarded.

At least your shitty owl will have a friend in this shit tier while Primarina is the queen of the alola region.

Get cuked by poplio guys.

>>29990029
Ever noticed how every karenfag trying to defend a shitmon starts by saying it's good on Trick Room?

For that matter, it's not even good for Trick Room, there are plenty of other fire pokémon that can hit much harder and better in TR

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>>29989746
UU

>>29990029
Not slow enough for a good trick room user

>>29989796
PU.

>>29990196
You and the other anon are both right and wrong at the same time

Incineroar has decent bulk, however Fire/Dark is a horrid defensive type. It's weak to very commom moves like Water, Ground and Fighting and has a nasty SR weakness as well. Combine it with the lack of priority and speed and Incineroar's bulk won't be doing much

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>>29990196
Oh you're right. Cause 90 base defenses are overwhelming.

>>29989746
it has intimidate and fake out it may be for doubles

>>29990273
Almost every single new mon was made with doubles in mind. They don't give two shits about singles anymore. Which is good.

>>29990263
Oh look, it's another "if it's not black it's white, there's nothing inbetween" episode!

Also
>intimidate

>tfw gonna pick up rowlett and toucan sam
>gonna have 2 flying types until level 30~
oh g-goodness

>>29990263
It's not amazing but 95/90/90 bulk is by no means frail.

>>29990334
Like a bulky special water type gives two shits.

>>29989920
>Le old-timey archer gentleman
>Le classy version of noctowl

Decidueye is LITERALLY the essence of reddit turned into a pokemon. It'll be a great addition to my monograss team in PU.

>>29990263
95/90/90 isn't stellar, but it is definitely far from frail, especially when it gets Intimidate eventually. That type of bulk is just below Mew and is bulkier than Arcanine.

>95/90/90
>intimidate
>flame charge
>bulk up + leech life
>outrage, cross chop, earthquake for coverage
>can use either throat chop or darkest lariat
it's fine
it might not be UU but it definitely is at least RU

>>29990364
>bulky special attackers who have a type advantage over this intimidate user dont care
Wow you're a genius

>equivalent to 95 HP 145 Defense
>frail
Topkek

>ITT Owlfags are butthurt.

>>29990364
>What is decidueye, he's gonna trap your bulky water.

>>29990688
>[insert water type] outspeeds redditroot and used ice beam!

>>29990592
>>equivalent to 95 HP 145 Defense
You're drunk

>>29990592
The only good thing I can say about Incineroar is that it's actually bulkier than the annoying genie of intimidation. But that's about it.

>>29990785
>not knowing how Intimidate works
You're retarded

>>29990688
4x weak to ice is a nasty weakness, especially when water types run ice moves frequently.

>>29990951
>The enemy got intimidated, he sure is going to stay there doing nothing and taking hits!
Hi sub 1100

>>29990970
>He thinks Decidueye is Grass/flying
kek

>>29990970
But Decidueye is part Ghost.

>>29990785
-1 252 Atk Darmanitan Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Incineroar: 120-142 (30.4 - 36%) -- 44.9% chance to 3HKO

252 Atk Darmanitan Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Iniceroar (145 Def): 128-152 (32.4 - 38.5%) -- 98.6% chance to 3HKO

You're right that he's drunk. It actually makes Incineroar bulkier than 95/145/90.

>>29989746
I'm pretty sure it'll be in UU as a worse Landorus-T once it gets its HA

>>29991039
>slow grass type with mediocre bulk surviving an ice beam

>>29991005
>U-turn out when they switch their crippled physical attacker out
gee that was hard

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>>29990263
>oh man 90+ in every defensive stat is bad
its like you know nothing

>>29989746
How much does the Prankster immunity help him?

>>29991100
>Dark type (not knock off, pursuit nor sucker punch) move
>Fire type move
>U-turn
>Leech life
Nice coverage

>>29991083
>252+ SpA Empoleon Ice Beam vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Abomasnow: 192-228 (64.6 - 76.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

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>>29991108
I wonder why

>>29990364
>if a Pokemon has a counter its bad
wow i guess P-groudon is is useless because >golduck used hydro pump

>>29991148
Abomasnow isn't weak to ice

>>29991108
>>29991187
Don't forget cosmic power

>>29991142
>using Leech Life over Cross Chop, Will-o-wisp, or Earthquake
you might be retarded

Neutral arbiter here, what's with the people triggered over Incineroar objectively bad stat spread and calling Decidueye reddit?

I'm impartial to any 3 of the new starters, but it seems like if Decidueye is reddit then Incineroar is /vp/'s /ourguy/. Are you guys just gay for the baracat?

>>29991220
>>using Leech Life over Cross Chop, Will-o-wisp, or Earthquake
>you might be retarded
I'm not the one who keeps spamming leech life as a valid recovery move, but your fellow retardedcatfags

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>>29991199
>

>>29990263

Garchomp
108/95/85
Swampert
100/90/90
Incineroar
95/90/90

I'd say that's pretty bulky, especially with intimidate. I know swampert has a better defensive typing by far, but it's not like ice beam or giga drain made them both worthless

>>29991265
Good thing I'm not one of them. Just calling you out on your utter stupidity.

>>29991300
Call their utter stupidity, you triggered faggot, I'm not stupid enough to use that baracat

>>29990201
I just hope we Popplio fags don't get BTFO.

>>29989746
OP I think you mean straight to Doubles OU

>>29991278
doesn't matter anyway since empoleon 2hkos while you can't do anything in return unless you waste a moveslot on >grass

>>29990201
>Primarina
>Anything higher than RU
I didn't know you like Pokemon that get outclassed by several hundreds of other Bulky fucking water types.

Name me one reason why I should use Primarina over any other water type in OU or NU.

>>29991108
>reliable recovery moves
>decent defensive type
>cosmic power and calm mind
>good defensive abilities
If baracat was that stacked, then you'd have a point.

>>29991441
Primarina isn't going below RU. Clawitzer is RU and Primarina is better than that in every single way.

>>29991076
Krook is already UU's Lando-t and is infinitely better than redditiger

>>29991250
Being gay is the in thing right now despite complaining about all kinds of lib bullshit.

>>29989746
Why do unofficial terms matter?

>>29991478
Krook doesn't get U-turn.

>>29991505
Krook also gets crippled by Burns, but it still packs the superior Defensive typing and isn't weak to SR.

>>29991462
Yeah but Primarina is still worse than any UU Fairy or Water type.
>>29991505
It gets rocks, knock off and pursuit

>>29991250
/ourguy/ is poppmaid-chan

>there are people who would actually use any of these three pieces of shit
Worst starters in the franchise in terms of design

It's like Arcanine, probably won't go OU, but may be pretty good in UU with intimidate. Plus it's immune to prankster which is pretty great.

>>29991542
So in the end, all of the starters are probably RU. Nice to know.

>>29991563
Reddithoot - Samurott - Delphox

Holy trinity of shit starters

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>>29991503
It doesn't.

OU is just Landorus T, Rotom W, Garchomp, Clefairy wasteland. VGC is pic related. You get punished by not min-maxing and where's the fun in that. Also with the ever increasing amount of Pokemon, battles starts to become less strategy based and more matchup based. Pokemon is an inherently uncompetitive game made for kiddos for fun.

Just use Pokemon that you like jesus fuck

>>29991581
Yes, all of them are terrible.
With some luck the owl might rot in BL2 with negative usage in UU due to its Baton Pass shenanigans.

>>29991597
I'd still put Delphox ahead of Incineroar just for not winding up a wannabe fire/fighting type

>>29991604
>virginia regional championships
you know that Worlds was actually varied, right?

>>29991701
Delphox model looks like shit tho.
Incineroar actually got some work put into it.

>>29991604
>>29991731
also, Pokemon has been "matchup" based since gen 1, where literally everything was outclassed by Mewtwo, Exeggutor, and Tauros

>>29991762
What was so bad about Exeggutor?

>>29991762
Gen 4 was the peak. With no team preview there's a lot of prediction going on, and the Pokemon after Garchomp's deserved ban was well balanced. 6 Pokemon in Gen 4 OU is enough to cover most threat. There's a bit of overcentralization with Heatran, but not by much

>>29991648
Baton pass is actually easy to deal with if the user is slow and frail, unlike fucking Blaziken

>>29991899
>googoogaga gen 4 is the bestest because it was my firstest pokemon games!!!

sinnohfoeti are a fucking plague

>>29991934
My first game is gen 1. I always thought that competitive pokemon was dumb, until Gen 4 where it really takes shape. Gen V was weather war, but it was tolerable. I gave up on Gen 6

>>29991934
Here's your (you) for not knowing how to properly read.