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Jesus christ
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>>29947032
>Charmander used Ember
>Bewear fainted

GG
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>>29947054
>Machop used Karate Chop!
>Tyranitar fainted!
That's what you sound like.
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>>29947032
We already had this thread. Something new you'd like to point out?
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>+1

I too can manipulate calcs to make it show what I want.
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>>29947083
>You too stupid to get the analogy

That's what your mom told you to sound like
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>>29947099
>analogy
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>>29947088
Bewear has Bulk Up
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>>29947252
>buffed walls are hard to kill
WAOW
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>>29947032
fuck off back to tumblr didnt i JUST yell at you
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>>29947252
And when is it going to get the chance to Bulk Up? While the Rayquaza switches in and pushes its shit in in two turns while Bewear does fuck all?
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>>29947228
>anal
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>>29947032
It's physically bulkier than Steelix even without using Bulk Up. Do some calcs if you want.
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>>29947274
>an
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False
>252 Atk Choice Band Mega Rayquaza Dragon Ascent vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Bewear: 234-276 (103 - 121.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Draco meteor is also a OHKO with life orb and naive nature
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>>29947088
I have a feeling that might've been used to calculate its ability.
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>>29947315
Are you halving the damage due to its ability?
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>>29947334
Wouldn't that be equivalent to +2?
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>>29947280
>252 Atk Choice Band Terrakion Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Steelix: 254-300 (71.7 - 84.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
>252 Atk Choice Band Terrakion Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Fluffy Bewear: 242-288 (54.5 - 64.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
BUT WHY
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>>29947358
No, he just didn't have Wee-Bear boosted a stage on defense. To be fair, neither calculation has any EVs aside from the last 4 put into defense.
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>>29947315
I just ran the calcs too.
252+ CB Dragon Ascent against a typing it's supereffective to like Bewear's, with Bewear's 120 base HP and 125 base Def as well as +2 Defense to equal its ability. With no EVs at all, Bewear takes 89.7% to 106% (37.5 chance to OHKO). Bewear isn't a fast Pokemon by any metric so without knowing its exact strategy, 252 HP EVs is a very safe bet. With those, the Dragon Ascent does only 77% to 90.9%. Re-check your calculations and make sure you're accounting for the ability in some way.
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>>29947458
>boosted a stage
It HALVES damage. It's equivalent to a 2-stage boost, or very very slightly better due to small fixed values added later than Def in the damage formula.
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Does it get Drain Punch?
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>>29947553
No, but it does get Pain Split.

>>29947486
it has 80 base defense dude
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>>29947518
Just did the calcs myself, both by doubling Bewear's defense and by Halving Rayray's Attack

the OP screenshot assumes that Bewear has +1 Def ON TOP OF the boost from Fluffy

in a vacuum, with Fluffy, base 120 HP, base 80 Def, and full HP EVs, mega rayquayza still OHKOs it

-2 252+ Atk Choice Band Mega Rayquaza Dragon Ascent vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Winnie the Pooh: 494-584 (111.2 - 131.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252+ Atk Choice Band Mega Rayquaza Dragon Ascent vs. +2 252 HP / 4 Def Barenstein Bear: 494-584 (111.2 - 131.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
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>>29947372
Nono, the calculation being made on a calculator with everything customizable except for the ability would mean the +1 is a stand-in for the ability.
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>>29948076
Isn't the ability the same as Furfrou's but also adding a fire weakness? Would it work to just calculate it based off a modified Furfrou?
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>>29947032
Well this explains why Lusamine's Bewear tanked everything. Even boosted super effective moves on it were only doing relatively minor damage.
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Modified Furfrou:
252+ Atk Choice Band Mega Rayquaza Dragon Ascent vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Fur Coat Furfrou: 494-584 (111.2 - 131.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252+ Atk Choice Band Mega Rayquaza V-create vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Fur Coat Furfrou: 496-584 (111.7 - 131.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO

literally get the fuck out of here
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>Rayquaza used Swords Dance!
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>>29948232
thank you dragon of gains
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>>29948232
THANK YOU DRAGON OF GAINS
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>>29948196
>not killing it with a single moonblast
lol
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>>29947252
>+6 SpD Sableye doesn't die from a moonblast
Sableye literally invincible xdd
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>>29947287
>N
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>>29948232
thank you dragon of gains
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>>29947032
idk why people are creaming themselves over bulk up. without drain punch or priority it gets super easily overwhelmed by special attackers. CB or 3 attack+sub and lefties is way better, just switch in on most physical attackers and hopefully fuck up whatever comes in.
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>>29950771
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It's my time to shine.
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>>29950900
STOP
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>>29950940
How? Your fire moves make direct contact
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>>29950994
>Sacred Fire
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>>29948232
thank you dragon of gains
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>>29950771
>Anel
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>>29947607
>barenstein
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>>29950900
here we go again.
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>>29947032
I knew this bro would be awesome!
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>>29950940
is this mon obtainable in sun moon?

>flash fire entei + bewear

too bad they changed the HA of it.
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>252+ Atk Choice Band Mega Rayquaza Dragon Ascent vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Fur Coat Furfrou: 344-408 (77.4 - 91.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
Needs Impish to be completely safe from the OHKO but it can survive Dragon Ascent
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>>29947032
>still using Skype

I mean this in the most earnest way possible.

Kill yourself.

Find a gun, or tie a noose. I don't care how you do it. The important thing is that you do it and you do it right now.
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>>29951668
wow great, so it survives a dragon ascent with red hp left. then it does what? tickle fug?
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>>29951800
That's not the point you fuckin retard
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>>29951826
fucking off yourself right on the spot
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>>29951749
>D...Do I fit in yet?
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>>29951800
If the strongest flying move in the game backed by the strongest mon in the game can't fall the bear, what hope do the other super effective physical mom's have to hope for?
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>>29951872
Then you bring whatever and use Ember.

Why the fuck would you leave a physical attacker in front of this thing? Do you also leave your special attackers in front of Chansey and wonder why it won't die?
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>>29951872
>the strongest flying move in the game backed by the strongest mon in the game
That isn't Flying-type Power Trick Huge Power Shuckle mimicking Dragon Ascent
>252+ Atk Huge Power Shuckle Dragon Ascent vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Fur Coat Bewear: 558-656 (173.8 - 204.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO
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>>29951872
>If the strongest flying move in the game backed by the strongest mon in the game can't fall the bear, what hope do the other super effective physical mom's have to hope for?
Simple--I use special moves
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>>29951872
Use Entei.

>252+ Atk Choice Band Entei Sacred Fire vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Bewear: 410-486 (92.3 - 109.4%) -- 56.3% chance to OHKO

Sacred Fire doesn't make contact either.
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>>29952014
>no megas allowed

back to ru with you.
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>>29951934
That's like saying, "Why the fuck would you leave a Steel type in front of Garchomp? Do you also leave your special attackers in front of Chansey and wonder why it won't die?"

Why do you fucking think Chansey is a prominent force in the meta? The fact of the matter is that good battlers DON'T leave their special attackers in front of Chansey, but Chansey is still an important pokemon anyway. That's because she can switch in & absorb enemy offense while disrupting teams by spreading status.

If you can't figure out how a pokemon that can tank Dragon Ascent from the most powerful pokemon in the entire game is useful, then you're a fucking faggot ass retard and there's nothing else to say about that. It can tank any physical hit in the game. Do you know what a physical wall is? Do you know what Skarmory is? What even is your point?

"Lol just switch out bro it's useless bro" doesn't work when the thing has 125 base Atk and perfect neutral coverage.
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>>29951943
>>29952066
please give me the calcs you are using for Bewear and what I could use to emulate the ability's defense and fire weakness, i want to try something
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>>29952300
I just added fighting to Furfrou and gave if the right stats
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>>29952318
is it safe to use Sunny Day to emulate the fire weakness?
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>>29952435
Not remotely, make it fighting/grass or just double the moves BP
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>>29952239
t. 1100

see you in PU with your shitmon
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>>29952480
>Not remotely, make it fighting/grass or just double the moves BP
MEME MAGIC INCOMING

>252+ SpA Choice Specs Machamp Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Bewear: 379-447 (85.3 - 100.6%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO

lmao
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>>29952507
Shitpost when you don't have an argument
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>>29952239
Jesus fucking Christ anon

You killed him
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>>29948232
thank you dragon of gains
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>>29952557
holy shit, I'm retarded

>252+ SpA Choice Specs Machamp Focus Blast vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Bewear: 620-732 (139.6 - 164.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO
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