In your personal opinion, does S&M reach the divine tier in which these games rest in? Barring the obvious DP of course
Nope. It's slightly better than ORAS, but all the wasted potential with the UBs and tapus keeps it below these games.
It's a big step in the right direction after the shitshow that was gen 6, though.
>>29941856
This
>>29941766
>D/P
>good
Sun/Moon is way better than X/Y and probably slightly better than ORAS. Definitely not nearly as good as HG/SS or B/W.
>>29941856
>>29941883
I feel will be a better ORAS, but a bigger potential disappointment as what Ive seen doesnt look like enough for 20th anniversary games
D/P do not deserve to be there. Platinum okay, but not D/P. And if Platinum is there, so should Emerald.
>>29941766
>the "I'm 18 years old and started gaming on the DS" starter package
>>29941953
>Kids who first started playing in 4th gen are now adults
aaaaaaaaAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>29941917
>>29941766
Honestly the small number of Pokemon a huge letdown, especially given how many are UBs. Pokemon is fundamentally about catching Pokemon and in Sun/Moon I'm having a hard time filling a team with only new pokemon I like. Sure not every Gen 5 Pokemon is a masterpiece but when you get 156 new Pokemon you're bound to find quite a few you like, and be seeing new stuff throughout the game.
>>29941953
OP started at a great time then
>>29941953
The only game before that that would go there is Emerald. HG/SS are strictly better than G/S (and R/B for that matter).
>>29941766
Yeah, I think so. HGSS aside, those were my favorite 'mon games and I loved SuMo.
>>29941856
This desu. At least it's an improvement
>>29941953
I'm not OP but I've been playing since RB and OP is 100% right you autistic faggot.
>>29941766
Good taste, OP. And, no, most definitely not.
>>29941766
are you trying to imply that B/W/B2/W2 are even anything above shit tier? because if you are you should probably consider kys
>>29941903
But B/W and HG/SS were shit. The only thing good about them was that HGSS had a relatively decent postgame for its time, and B/W really don't have anything going for them other than perhaps a few memorable characters.
>>29943015
>for it's time
>expanded Pokeathelon
>expanded Bug Catching Contest
>more Pokegear Battles with raised levels
>Fighting Dojo
>Fast Ship Battles
>Battle Froniter
>Trainer House
>new region
>Hoenn and Sinnoh sounds
>catching the other box legend, the legendary birds, a hoenn box legend and one of the Latis
>climbing Mt Silver
>small story about returning power to the Plant and beating the new league and Red
>implying that's not relatively god tier for all times
>>29942972
shit taste
>>29941766
B/W are overrated trash nowhere near that list it should be
>>29941766
Holy olympus mons these are the hardest pokemon gams ever, those fucking totems man holy shit this game might be impossible to nuzlocke without hacking.
Anyways I was one of the idiots that called this game shit earlier because I didnt play it but now I have seen it its a pretty good game.
>>29941766
It can get BW1 out of there.
>>29943015
>>29943173
>>29943233
>anyone who disagrees with me is baiting
I love this meme. Get that shit taste outta here faggot. As has been said earlier, the only good thing about BW is it's memorable characters, and even then that doesn't mean much when most of them are uninteresting Mary Sues.
>>29941766
>The first Black/White
>HG/SS
That's all I came here for. They're good but definitely a tier below the listed games
Unfinished feeling second and third island and an abuse of cutscenes interrupting you keep it from being the best first games yet.
A lot better than XY.
excuse me where is emerald and why is DP anywhere near that list
>>29941953
>"i'm the butthurt hoenbabby" starter package
>>29941934
>>29943389
It's literally a generic photo which lists the DS games. Google it, and it's the first result you find
>>29941766
Why is BW/2 on a list of the worst games in the franchise?
>>29943452
The fact that people even mistake it for a best of list should say everything about how good the DS era was.
>>29941766
I don't know. I need time to let the experience sink more and know for sure where I stand about Sun/Moon. Maybe it's above BW, but still bellow HGSS, Platinum and BW2, but that could just be hype of the moment as I really liked those games.
There's no denying it's a big improvement over Gen VI, though. Even if I have my gripes with it I feel like Pokémon is back on track.
>>29943519
Even the naysayers know it is the truth! Great point right here