Why is everyone suddenly overrating this Pokémon? I honestly

Why are owlfags suddenly butthurt over this Pokémon? I honestly don't see why they're so mad.

>>29924345
>>>>>>>>>>>IMPLYING

>>29924292
Its not that good but is actually better than all the older grass/ghost mons and decidueye
>great attack and defense? check
>rapid spin ghost? check
>trappin move? check

RU/UU solid mon

>>29924292
i liked it bc i thought it was either water/steel or ghost/steel but desu i'm not thrilled with the typing anymore. all it has is a unique design and it's not that unique. still hopeful it has a cool signature move or a decent set of stats

Breaking news, Owlfags still on suicide watch

>cool design
>actually looks spooky unlike certain ghosts
>great ability
>solid stats
>great movepool
>signiature move is better than owl's

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>>29924292
>12 feet tall
Owllets BTFO.

>>29924368
>better than all the older grass/ghost mons and decidueye
Not with that lack of reliable recovery

>>29924368
Bronzong does everything this Pokémon does better.

>>29924385
>Cool design

Literally My mom's anchor. Why is it grass type, of all things?

>>29924545
The seaweed is the actual Pokemon.
It just uses the anchor as a tool. That's why it's not steel type, but it gets steel STAB as its ability.

>>29924545
The algae is the mon. It's just wielding the anchor and debris.

>>29924428
You're an idiot. Bronzong is a wall, Dhelmise is a tank with some good utility moves. They do different things

>>29924554
>>29924566

>The algae is the mon

Ok, now I KNOW pokemon jumped the shark

>>29924292
Us objectbros gotta stick together.

>>29924695
It's no different to Rotom desu.

>>29924292
It's literally my Mr. Krabs Giant rusty Anchor.

>>29924428
Bronzong isn't a spinner.

>>29924695
It's a cool idea you lame fuck.

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>seaweed ghost reference
Game Freak confirmed for bros.

>>29924695
>He doesn't like Foo Fighters
FOUND THE FAGGOT

>>29924731

Really.

A ghost wearing ship debris is a cool idea
Algae wearing ship debris? not so much.

I'm sorry that your expectations have dropped to the level where you would celebrate seaweed as a cool mon.

>>29924428
D-do you even have a clue about their roles?

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>>29924795
>implying seaweed isn't cooler than a fucking boat
shit taste desu

>>29924961
>>29924795
Guys, guys, it's okay.

All those things you just said are lame.

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>>29924292
It learns surf.

A fucking anchor learns surf.

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>>29924981
Holy shit, are you serious? You're not joshing me?

>>29924981
too bad it isn't a special attacker

>>29924707
No, Rotom has eyes and a face and shit.
I'm not even trying to meme here, but it is LITERALLY just some seaweed. Like, ffs this idea of ghost seaweed is communicated very poorly.

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>>29925016
If Smogon is to be believed. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I hope it's true. Dhelmise can join Golurk in my list of awesome modes of transportation.

>>29925040
It has eyes. You haven't seen it in motion, have you, anon?

>>29924554
I sure wish it had, like, a face

>>29925013
Hate is a strong word, peasant.

And she was only my step-sister, pleb. We're only technically related, so we can fuck each other's brains out.

>>29925047
It possesses the anchor to use as a face.

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>>29925024
I don't think you understand.
We have an anchor
that
can
surf!

>>29925068
Too bad surf isn't an HM.

>>29925046
Nope. And don't say the compass/steering wheels are the eyes.

>>29925057
Can it make expressions with it?

>>29925075
it's a tm

>>29925081
Sure, why not.

>>29925080
They are, it's actually really well animated. I hated it before then, it's quite charming.

>>29925085
You can't ride on surfmons though

>>29925098
who cares

>>29925091
Yeah, but that just makes it seem like a ghost possessed an anchor, and that anchor just so happened to be covered in seaweed.
Like, the idea of ghost seaweed is cool as fuck and a way better use of the typing than an owl or gourd, but like I said, it's communicated really poorly with this design.

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>>29925075
Surfing
Anchor

>>29924385
>looks spooky
What?

>>29925161
It looks like ghost seaweed controlling an anchor, instead of, I don't know, some kind of regular bird or something.

>>29925177
Oh... I kind of see it now...

>>29924292
>use owl for 90% of the game
>box him and use the anchor upgrade at the final stretch
Dunno why you guys are getting so upset :/

>>29924368
Decidueye has a clear advantage over this thing with its access to recovery. Expect to see Decidueye + Magnezone + Dugtrio trapping shenanigans in OU. Especially with Trio's buffed attack.

i see no problem using decidueye and anchor san together in my playtrough team

But is it good? Breedable? Best possible set? Bro or not?

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>>29926465
breedable with ditto
good attack and workable defenses
3 stabs(steel with steelworker)
trap steel attack with 80BP
nice movepool all around
seems like a cool dude

It's the same appeal as Aegislash.
But never mind that I use burd, I still have 2 other ghost types on my team on top of that. Too many ghosties this Gen.

>>29926591
weavile will have a fest in the ou meta

>>29924795
It's a ghost that is posessing both algae and ship parts, dumbass.

>>29924292
It's a trick room sweeper and has the move pool and stats to pull it off. Pair it with Comfey as the setter and healer so this thing might sweep

>>29924695
Well it did that years ago

>>29925045
Seems like you dont know.

>>29926264
>expect to see decidueye....in OU
If it ever does get in OU it'll only be because of deluded redditors like you trying to ambipom/typhlosion it into a tier it doesn't belong in for a few months

>>29924594
Ok. Aggron does everything better.

>>29927448
>horrible ground and fighting weakness
>Dhelmise resists both
Really makes you think.

>>29926807
This shit won't land in OU. And Weavile will have a fest with the new fairies and Z-stone holders, a fest where he gets dropped to BL.

>>29926264
Man Dugtrio will rape some serious shit in OU. I bet he's going to end up banned by Smogon.

>>29927471
Oh yes, because we all know Grass/Ghost is such a bless defensive wise. Ask all the other bulky slow ghosts how that worked out for them.

>>29927518
You mean the shitmons with no defensive or offensive capability and empty movesets?
Really activates your neurons.

>>29924385
>Can't outspeed Chansey and other walls
>No reliable recovery

>>29927537
No offensive? Some of them get Shadow Sneak at the very least. This guy doesn't even get that.

It's a Pokémon for retards. The same kind of people who thinks slapping an Assault Vest on anything is good.

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>there are people who don't like the best alola pokemon
Disgusting.

Anyways post sets for the anchor

Dhelmise @ Assult Vest / Leftovers / Life Orb
252 HP / 252 Atk
Brave Nature
-Rapid Spin / Giga Drain
-Anchor Shot
-Power Whip
-Shadow Claw

It also has access to gyro ball which I feel it can incorporate but I'm not sure how to incorporate it.

>>29927379
I see Decidueye being RU/UU, but it has a really go niche in OU for being surprisingly good against Stall. I see Decidueye and Dhelmise being heads and tails. Decidueye being good for fighting Stall and supporting teammates while Dhelime can fight offensive better. Both having a little bleed out for both strategies's mons.

>>29927763
I imagine it'll be the tier below wherever dhelmise ends up in any case

Decidueye won't be OU lol

It is one of the worst Alola pokemon competitively along with Lurantis and Pyukumuku

Don't expect anything but RU/NU

>b-but muh Gen VII Greninja!

It didn't happen and it's not going to happen. Oddities like charizard and memefrog happen once every 10-20 years.

>>29924981
Piss off making me giggle with that gif

And what, did you expect it to learn dive? I can understand that an anchor doing anything but sinking is pretty weird, but still

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>>29927688
>70/131/100/86/90/40
>517 total
If you think that's shit you need to reconsider.

>>29927846
It will see use in OU because of being able to trap something non-threatening to set up Swords Dance and baton pass to something fast

>>29927761
Horrible. What else can this thing do?

Isn't there a Z-stone that lets you fully heal your HP with curse?

>>29927877
>trap something non-threatening
If that non-threatening thing happens to stay in on you for some reason for you to spirit shackle it, and if that non-threatening thing isn't immune to your trapping move like Chansey.

>>29927877
It will see use in OU =/= BE OU

Shit like Empoleon had niches in ORAS OU but they're actually RU. Don't expect anything different with your autistic Owl waifu

>>29927846
It'll be the Electivire/Donphan of S/M in that it'll be OU for a brief period in spite of being absolutely awful in the tier

>>29927873
Even if it kills anything it's just begging to be revenge killed.
70/100/90 is not enough good bulk.

>>29927846
This thread isn't even about Decidueye. ffs

And people were comparing this anchor to Aegislash. Maybe this was GF's plan from the start. (Well, it's their mode operandi every generation but this time they did it for Pokemon people like)

>>29927973
It's clearly full of butthurt owlfags trying to downplay Dhelmise's good atributes and ACTUAL viability.

>>29927911
Empoleon's UU though?

>>29927926
Are you brain damaged? 70/100/90 bulk is higher than most pokemon.

>>29924292
There used to be 2 viable spinners in OU:

>Starmie, cock blocked by Aegislash and M-Sableye

>Exacadrill somewhat risky against M-Sableye

Now with this, we can cock block Excadrill, Starmie and Dhelmise himself. At the same time can spin, but still somewhat cockblocked by Sableye.

>>29929326
sableye lost his prankster on mega tho so we got that

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I actually found 3 bottlecaps before catching this bad boy.

>>29925081
It rotates the compass to create the illusion of closing its eyes.

>>29924292
>ghost with rapid spin, pseudo-STAB pseudo trapping move, 130 ATK and passable defenses

It'll be UU by usage but see some use in OU as well. Owl will be RU at best.

>gen 8 introduces a Pokemon with Rapid Spin and Scrappy
Not discussing the viability, but what would change in the competitive field?

>>29927926
It doesn't need to kill anything. It's primary purpose is hazard control.

If you want to kill things with a Grass type you use Tapu Bulu.

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So is the compass its eye or just something that happens to look like an eye to avoid 100% Your Moms Anchor?

I called it being grass ghost. You faggot said argued and some other fag even asked to be in the screengrab.

>>29930476

its viability as a spinner would be largely dependent on what it can do that starmie and excadrill can not

>>29930591
Its a literal compass because the ancor isn't the Pokemon.

ITT
>Dhelmise
>50% Sea
>50% Weed

>>29928105
And that proves anything how? It's still not good enough against the majority of competent offensive mons.

>>29930681

>50% sea
>not a water type

>>29930705
>hurr durr it doesn't have 255/255/255/255/255/255 stats so it's shit

kill yourself

>>29930747

it has a shit defensive typing, middling bulk, and very low speed. it really will get eaten up by most offensive mons. why does getting told this upset you so much?

>>29930771
lol see you in ou you fucking fagotron

decidueye will be OU.

There's no reason to use this thing when decidueye does everything it can better AND has recovery

>>29930771
Which offensive mons? It has some very valuable resistances in Fighting, Electric, Water, and Ground, and Fairy types can't exactly come in on it because of Anchor Shot

>>29930810

quality post, really made me think

>>29930813
>does everything it
I'm a Rowletfag, but Owlbro doesn't have Steel STAB

>>29930813
KEK

>>29930838
it's apparently a 1.33x boost instead of 1.5x, but it needs more testing

>>29930836
>you say this pokemon is shit
>it's actually good

really makes one ponder

>>29930867
I wonder if it also has another effect. Ever since Water Bubble, I've been trying to see if all the other abilities have a second/third effect.

>>29930827

>>29930827

>>29930827

it's weak to fire, ice, dark, ghost, and flying. most water types carry ice coverage and most electric types carry ice coverage. knock off is also pretty common coverage on fighting types. it wont be a terrible Pokemon, but it won't be OU

>>29930895

>you say this Pokemon is shit

I didn't say that

>>29930859
Prove me wrong

>>29931019

give one niche that decidueye could fill in OU that it wouldn't be outclassed in by another Pokemon

>>29931064
Keldeo answer with hazard control and reliable recovery
Shacke + BoostPassing

can I get game animation for Dhelmise, like it attacking in battle?

>>29931064
bulky wallbreaker
trap passer
mixed sweeper
trick room sweaper
bulky spinblocker
set up sweeper
wallbreaker
m-gengar that doesn't eat a mega slot

>>29931156

it's outclassed as a keldeo answer with recovery and hazard control by lati@s

shackle+boost passing won't be good enough to get it into OU

>>29931181

it's outclassed in each of those roles except for trap passer. why would you even post this stupid shit?

>>29931239
Keep in mind that it's a grass or ghost type version of all of those things which gives it a good niche for OU

>>29931156
>boostpassing
explain

>>29931324
It gets Nasty Plot, Swords Dance, and Baton Pass.

>>29931324
Are you retarded?

>>29930966
The only ice coverage most Electric types carry is HP ice. Their move pools are so shallow it's sad. And plus, it's still better than Celebi's typing, which was OU for a time in Gen 6.

>>29931181
How does this even most of those things? It's not wall breaking with pathetic 100 offenses and mediocre speed. It's not sweeping with that speed. 78/75/100 isn't really what I'd call bulky, even if it has Roost.

Decidueye = OU, eventually banned to ubers after tutors like what happened with greninja, Ash-Decidueye will make him even stronger still

Primarina = UU, will drop to BL2 by the end of the gen

Incineroar = RU at best, even after tutors

Dhelmise = NU, no reason to ever run this over Decidueye

>>29930966
Really? Which Electric types carry Ice coverage that can hurt this? Rotom-Wash certainly doesn't. Zapdos 3HKOs. Same with Thundurus and Raikou. Tapu Koko does 70% with Brave Bird but gets 1HKOed by Power Whip.

It gets destroyed by Dark types and Knock Off but I think it will do very well in OU

>>29931064
Batonpass trapping
Stall breaker trapping
A scarf scout with anti-barbs U-Turn
A check to Spore abusers and a check to Regen cores
A check to Specs Keldeo, Breloom, and utility Starmie

>>29931440
upvoted

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>>29931440

>>29931447

zapdos runs heatwave and life orb Thundurus hits pretty hard. I'm not gonna do the calcs but I assume hpice off of 252 spatk Thundurus 2hkos. I'm not saying it's terrible and that literally every Pokemon in OU beats it one on one. I'm just saying that it won't be OU because of its mediocre speed, attacking stats, speed, and typing

>>29927884
Yes, and then it uses curse.

I was thinking about making a shipwreck themed team with this thing once the bank updates. It could have Dragalge and Jellicent Spriritomb to reference the drowned crew because it was at Sea Mauville. Something like Thundurus/Tornadus/Zapdos to be a storm at sea, or Avalugg as an iceberg. Maybe Dragonite because it rescues people from wrecked ships.

I don't know, maybe it's dumb, just seems like it might be a fun theme.

>>29931578
Use Tapu Fini as the mermaid at the front of the ship

>>29931615
Oh yeah, that's a good idea.

>>29931537
I fucking checked, you fag. Defensive Zapdos 3HKOs and even LO Modest Zapdos has a 1.6% chance to 2HKO a 252 HP/0 Sp.Def AV Dhelmise. LO Thundurus also 3HKOs with HP Ice, because it's fucking HP Ice. And what fucking world do you live in that 131 Attack is mediocre?

70/100/90 bulk is actually pretty fucking good, by the way.

This thing will be used in standard because of its access to Rapid Spin and ability to counter Keldeo.

>>29931674
It's not really a Keldeo counter. It won't enjoy getting burned, even with the nerf.

>>29931697
Decidueye doesn't fear burns thanks to its mixed offense :)

>>29931697
Check, then. And it has a fucking fun time against Fairies with Steelworker Anchor Shot.

>>29931744
Oh boy, Energy Ball, Shadow Ball and absolutely nothing else worth running. Truly an OU staple.

>>29924554
And just like that I like it.

>>29931776
Greninja did well enough with worse attack and just two good physical moves

>>29931744
>base 100 Spatk
>80 BP moves

we got a bad ass over here

>>29931744
Decidueye doesn't have Rapid Spin, so why are you shoehorning your way in? Are you a retard with 0 reading comprehension?

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>>29931440
>sealfags false flagging as owlfags that hate catfags and are envious of anchorfavs

>>29931744
>Using Decidueye offensively instead of as Support, Utility, or Stallbreaking.

>>29931879
>muh sealfag boogiemen
Nah owlfuckers are just that retarded.

>>29931861
Greninja also has Protean.

>>29931879
>anchorfags false flagging as sealfags that hate owlfags so much they pretend to be owlfags that hate catfags and are envious of anchorfags to deflect heat from Dhelmise

>>29931948
This.
Speed + Protean= King of OU
Add a good movepool and you get sent to Ubers.

>>29931944
It's definitely a false flag. The discussion about the starters have always been saying they all will be around RU/UU, give or take a tier. It's been mostly Sealfags shitposting on each discussion thread.

>>29931861
Greninja did well because of Protean.

>>29932043
>It's definitely a false flag
yes
>blaming a group of people with no evidence other than the fact you personally dislike them
no, I shitpost about the owl all the time and don't even like any of the starters.

>>29931861
If Greninja didn't have Protean, he would be UU at best, because Starmie has rapid spin and recover. You need atleast 120+ attack with 90 BP moves at a bare minimum if you hope to be a one-trick non-setup sweeper.in OU

>>29932129
>>29932076
>>29931948
Decidueye has actual bulk and a myriad of set-up and support moves too though, as well as the ability to safely trap and set up on mons that can't harm it

>>29930771
It has defenses comparable if not better than some ou shit faggot.

>Talonflame
>Grenigger
>Etc.

>>29932192
Plus it has roost

>>29932184
78/75/100
this is bulky, IF it's offenses were:

115+ atk/spatk and 115+ speed

This is Raikou a borderline OU mon.
90/85/75/115/100/115

>>29932184
The only thing I think Decidueye has that can make it raise is a vast movepool and good support moves. The moment it becomes predictable its done.

>>29931864
It gets Defog which could be argued to be better

This probably Decidueye's best bet in singles

Decidueye
Ability: Long Reach
EVs: 252 HP/Distribute among speed and defenses to reach some important speed tiers.

Nature: Careful/Jolly/Impish
-U-turn/Baton Pass
-Spirit Shackle
-Roost
-Defog/Low Sweep/Swords Dance

>>29931772
except Koko. He learns U turn and Volt Switch

>>29932184
Decidueye isn't all that bulky. It's slightly above average on the special side and a bit weak on the physical side.

>>29932656
recovery makes all the difference

>>29924368
Trevenant is a better bulky attacker because of Harvest and Horn Leech.

>>29926264
>Dugtrio trapping shenanigans in OU. Especially with Trio's buffed attack.

>Spikes made flying/levitate pokemon useful
>Stealth rock made flying/fire/ice/bug a detriment to switch
>Levitate pokemon without flying/fire/ice/bug typing useful
>enter terrain, now grounded pokemon useful especially ground/steel/fighting
>Enter Choice Banded STAB EQ from 100 Base attack, TRAP

metagme will be fun. I'm getting DPPt meta vibes, this is good.

>>29930813
I'm a Decidueye fag and that's fucking wrong, owl will not be OU, it will however be guaranteed UU due to how items make it much better and its stats are just at home there
Anchor on the other hand is most likely OU since it makes use of many defensive items and can lock down counter spinners and defoggers with ease

>>29933255
>Implying dugtrio won't be quickbanned

>>29933345
t. falseflagging littenfag

>>29933938
>I don't know how to Shed Shell bluff a scarf

Metagame will evolve

>>29932354
the only reason it could be considered better is that it can't be blocked by Ghost types. It's a huge detriment complared to Rapid Spin if you're running Stealth Rocks.

Is there any video footage of this mon in battle? Is he really 12 ft tall in game?

>>29930058
Aw I thought that was going to be shiny. I wanna see what it looks like.
I'm going full pirate this gen.

>>29933969
You can call me a littenfag all you want, but I know my true nigga and his usability and he'll shine in UU I can guarantee it
The reason why not OU is Decidueye relies too much on items due to too balanced stats whereas the anchor just needs to lockdown the right target and will absolutely murder them it's sad but true
At least Decidueye is going to be way better than the other two, which their delusional fans deny cuz "MUH HIHG SPECATK AND MUH INTAMEDTE"