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How is the new shiny hunting method?

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How is the new shiny hunting method?
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aight
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>>29923588
Pretty good. Got this at around 108. Going for Grubbin atm.
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>>29923607
thanks friend. still kinda confused about it though, does it chain the same way as oras / xy but just without the risk?
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>>29923588
Easiest way to do it yet, the only downside being not everything will call for help consistently.
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Really smooth once you get into the rhythm. Got this fucker at 26.
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so is the new method just using an adrenaline orb on a desired pokemon and then killing it's allies until a shiny one pops up? or is there something more to it im missing
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>>29923695
To add onto this (buyfag here), what's a fucking Adrenaline Orb? Sorry.

Is it something easily accessible/there's multiples of? Purchasable at the Poke Mart or?
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>>29923711
300 at any Pokemart after a ceartin point
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>>29923711
An item which makes wild Pokemon summons an ally. It is, it is $300.
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>>29923695
Pretty much. The monster will eventually run out of moves and struggle to death if you go long enough, but you can reset that by switching to another guy of the same species.
Bring something with Entrainment/Skill Swap if you're looking for HAs.
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>>29923711
you dont sound very sorry

adrenaline orb increases speed if held but if used it causes the targeted pokemon to call for help more often

so if you go shiny hunting be sure to bring something with false swipe
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>>29923734
Is it an item you use within battle, and do you have to use multiple over and over to get a big chain?
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>>29923755
It lasts for the entire battle.
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>>29923728
>>29923734

Noice. Will have to try it. Maybe I'll finally catch a shiny?

Been playing since Yellow, no shines caught or bred. Ever. My luck is terrible.
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>>29923728
>>29923734
That actually sounds-- oddly-- more comfortable than using the DexNav shit. At least, it does to me. Thanks for the info guys.
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Yo does /vp/ have an archive?
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This new ally chaining method sounds TOO easy. Like, it sounds like you could effortlessly get shinies from this constantly
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Do you meed to alternate bewteen killing the newly summoned Pokemon, or can you just keep the original Pokemon alive and kill all the allies?
Also, how quickly do they call for help once damaged?
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>>29923788
You only have until the wild Pokemon runs out of PP and starts struggling to death

I'm not sure if you can kill it and let the ally continue the chain
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>>29923588
I've been trying to snag 31IVs and EV train using this method, accidentally got a green zubat last night. Can't wait for her to be an angry pink Crobat.
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>>29923790
You need to kill the summoner every so often because it will Struggle eventualy. Just use False Swipe and the Orb and the call about every turn. Sometimes a mon doesn't show up. To kill a turn, just use an Orb again. The orb can only be used once in battle, so you don't consume another one when you click use again and that advances the turn without you attacking.
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>>29923807
funbro's time to shine
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>>29923807
Probably not, but you could keep it going for ages with a reliable sleep move.
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>>29923588
I wanna fuck her
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Are people doing this form of chaining with the shiny charm or no?
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>>29923807
>>29923848
If it's of the same evolutionary family it'll continue even if you kill the original Pokemon.
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Is there a 'do nothing' command or am I supposed to just use battle items constantly to use up my turn?
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>>29923894
False Swipe, buff moves, put the Pokemon to sleep over and over, etc. There's a bunch of shit you can do.
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>>29923588
>>29923607
>>29923623
Samefag
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>>29923894
>>29923835
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>>29923780
this is an underrated post why did no one bully them
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I'm supposed to kill the ally right? So I false swipe the Mon I encounter, it summons an ally, then I kill the allies until a shiny one comes right?
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>>29923911
Yes.
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Is there a false swipe equivalent for hitting ghost Pokemon? I want shiny anchor
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>>29923911
1. Enter battle, make sure you have False Swiper and someone with Sing/Hypnosis/Spore/etc (for when your Shiny pops)

2. Pop Adrenaline Orb

3. False Swipe until Pokemon calls ally

4. Repeatedly faint the allies

5. Every 30 turns or so faint the original Pokemon so it doesn't struggle to death, but make sure current ally is the same Pokemon or of the same family so the chain doesn't break

6. Repeat until you have your desired Shiny
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>>29923923
You can Soak them beforehand. The Tapus have a fairy super-fang, so that's another option.
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>>29923923
Use Soak on Ghost types (And types that resist Normal), THEN False Swipe.
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>>29923941
Does an ally not showing up break the chain?
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>>29923923
Scrappy or Odor Sleuth will allow False Swipe to hit ghosts.
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>>29923959
I don't think so, but I can't say for sure.
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>>29923952
Anything that gets soak early on? Somebody mentioned you can get Smeargle pretty early but nothing about setting up his best strategy
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>>29923963
So Pangoro would make a decent hunter then? Might get myself one.
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Which pokemon are the best catchers in the new game?
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>>29923980
Spore/Odor Sleuth/Swords Dance/False Swipe
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>>29923982
It picks up entrainment for hidden ability checking, so it'll definitely be one of the better chainers.
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How early can you buy the orbs?
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>>29923989
I used Keen Eye Sneasel for
>>29923607
and just now this because of Sand Attack/MudSlap.
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>>29923663
26 encounters or 26 calls for help?
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Who's the first False Swipper you cab catch and how far is it?
I guess I'll be trying a ShinyLocke on my first or second run
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So 1 Adrenaline Orb can be used multiple times during a single battle? After that battle ends, the Orb goes away?

Also, why do we need to knock out the orb'd pokemon before it struggles, if struggling kills it anyway?
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>>29924048
26 calls for help, not counting the 8 or so Mareanies that showed up before. I'm not sure if killing things outside of the chaining species advances the chain yet.
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>>29924103
>mon attacked X pokemon
>X pokemon fainted
>Y pokemon is out of moves and used Struggle
>Y pokemon took recoil
>Y pokemon fainted
>Battle ends
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>>29924132
So, This is if the farmed pokemon gets KO'd shortly before the Orb'd pokemon struggles to death?

Would this situation be avoided if we leave just enough health for the orb'd pokemon to still summon other pokemon?
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>>29923902
Can a pokemon call for an ally if its asleep?
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>>29924433
No actually, any status stops them from doing it.
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>>29923947
But unlike super fang, can't nature's madness KO a Pokémon?
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>need a pascal the dog
>have no false swiper
any that also get hypnosis
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Why do you need false swipe?

Are they more likely to call for help with less HP?
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is masuda still a viable option?
do we get a shiny charm this gen?
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>>29924464
Parasect can get spore and learn false swipe through TM
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>>29924500
I heard you get the shiny charm from completing the Alolan Dex.
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>>29923588
Pretty good. I just got a 2nd shiny already and it has 4 maxed IVs thanks to chaining also increasing IVs.
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>>29924039
Holy shit I didn't know there was an IV checker on the stats screen!
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>>29924478
Yeah, they won't call for help at full HP, and sometimes calling for help fails and you'll have to waste a turn to get them to try again. False Swipe is useful since it can't KO.
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Does the shiny charm improve the odds of the Adrenaline orb method?
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anyone know if switching pokemon breaks the chain? Or what breaks the chain in general?
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>>29924039
How do you get to the IV screen?
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>>29924464
Gallade can false swipe, hypnosis, thunder wave, and ability swap. It can also use bulk up, mean look, and taunt for those running away/teleport mons.
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Is there a mon that can stop Riolus from doing sudoku?
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I had 2 Shiny yesterday thanks to this method
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>>29924970
What move do they use?
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>>29924982

So don't hesitate to try your luck guys
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>>29924983
Final Gambit
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>>29925000
A ghost type I guess.
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>>29924942
>Ralts
>in Alola
Anon...
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>>29924982
>>29924998
CUTE
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>>29923963
Soak is better since it eliminates resistances
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When can you purchase orbs? Is it post game or earlier on?
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>>29924982
Dude we got the same nickname
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>>29925242
That Primarina nickname is 10/10
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>>29925222
Early. 2nd island I think.
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>>29923588
Fucking awful.
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>>29923588
I'm not a big shiny catcher and this new method is honestly encouraging to me. It seems a lot safer and easier than Pokéradar/DexNav/Masuda, and kind of guarantees a shiny if you just keep it going.
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If no pokemon comes when the pokemon calls for help, does that break the chain?
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>>29923992
Replace Odor Sleuth with Soak, else you won't be able to Spore Grass types.
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>>29925329
Just remember RNG is RNG, my friend had over 300 to 400 (had to use elixirs and shit) to get one of the shinies.
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>>29923588
its pkhex
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>>29925345
Absolutely, it just seems like less work than Masuda, and less chance of fucking up like radar/Nav.
Is it true that you get the Shiny Charm after completing Alola Dex?
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The first shiny hunt weekend for sun and moon is going to be so much fun with everyone hunting for shit. Who's ready?
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>>29925595
>mine arrives on monday
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>>29925532
Yes.
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>>29925049
Pokebank isn't compatible with SM?
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>>29925662
It won't be until January.
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>>29925662
Not until January.
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Hey does synchronize work on all helpers that appear afterwards? I needs me a shiny jolly moon dog...with no guard if i'm lucky.
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>>29925731
whats the ultimate pokemon to have that can learn false swipe and have an ability to detect their ability, and where do you buy elixirs or eithers, I ran out of pp and it fucked like 200+ turns up
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whats the earliest pokemon you can get with false swipe?
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>>29925826
Scrappy Pangoro.
Use entrainment to chech HA.
Also bring something that can sleep or paralize the fucker so it doesn't call for anymore help.
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>>29925242

Lmao
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since pokebank isn't gonna be available for a while what is the best false swiper you can get?
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>Chanseys keep breaking my Riolu chains
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>>29925922
Read the thread you actual nigger.
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>>29925623
Mine probably will too. It SHOULD be getting here on Friday, but I highly doubt it.
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>>29923607
You playing Moon? If you're playing moon you better call that fucker Big Lincoln.
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>>29924104
Regarding Mareanie chains, can Mareanie summon another Mareanie or do you have to keep a Corsola alive?
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>>29925826
note to self. stock up on leppa berries
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>>29926127
Mareanie will not summon anything at all if it was called by Corsola. You need to encounter a Mareanie to chain Mareanies.
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>>29925826
Smeargle with Technician

False Swipe
Soak
Spore
Heal Pulse
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>>29923882

So to clarify, when you say, same "family" you mean breedng groups, right? (monster/field/flying/mineral/amorphous, etc)
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>>29923607
where is the nature?
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>>29926573
Crap brain fart. As long as the helper is the same species as the original pokemon(2 rockrufs, 2 bagon, 2 pikachu) it keeps going
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>>29926611
Evo and preevo work too.
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>>29926610
Going by the highlighted stats on the top screen, it's bold.
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>>29926630
Oh really? that's good to know...so wait would the evolved form call for its pre evo for help or another evolved form?

...can rockruff call for lycanrocs?
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>>29926638
...isn't that a calm nature?
+sp def
-atk
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>>29923588
Working for me.
Got this Pikipek after 110 KOs.
31 IVs in every stat apart from HP (17) and SpAtk (8), with Skill Link ability (not its HA, but still good).
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>>29924039

Where and how does one get to this screen?
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>>29926838

what moves does your smeragle have and how the heck is it already level 100?
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>>29926944
Spore, False Swipe and Odor Sleuth for ghosts.

Level 100 with PkHex
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>>29923788
whats the new method?
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>>29927117
Read the fucking thread.
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>>29923743
>entrainment
Wait how does that work? Did you mean Role Play? Or does it tell you what the previous ability was when you change it?
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>>29927173
>Or does it tell you
Yes.
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>>29924095
I believe the first is Paras and it's around the second or third island. Not 100% sure tho
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>>29924515
I heard data miners couldn't find it in the game.
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So let me get this straight
>pokemon calls ally of same species
>defeat both mons/run away?
>repeat process
>eventually find shiny?
Someone correct me, I know I'm wrong
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>>29927372
no, you keep letting one live while it calls for another one until you find a shiny or he starts struggling. if he does just change target.
I think?
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>>29927372
>defeat both mons/run away?
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So...I guess wimpods the rarest shiny now?
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>Find shiny salandit
>It's male
IT'S NOT FAIR
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>>29927465
not when you set up entrainment or mean look them.
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>>29927495
>catching female anything
kys normie tumblrite
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>>29927513
Oh fuck how did I not think of that
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>>29923941
so, when the original Pokemon calls an ally and it is about to struggle, I faint the original one and keep the ally so the ally calls for another ally and the chain doesn't break?

I'm trying to understand this
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>>29927526
>not understanding Salandit only evolves if it's female
Off yourself
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>>29927603
And? That still doesn't excuse catching a filthy whore.
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>>29925931
Can't you kill the Chansey and let the Riolu try again? Does that really break the chain?
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>>29923941
how long does it typically take for a shiny to show? could I be doing this for hours?
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Hows its work?
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>>29927674
You can.
He just fucked up somewhere else.
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>>29927674
Doesn't killing something that is not of the same family reset your chain?
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>>29926838
So its only a maximum of 2 Pokemon?

How do you stop the original one from killing itself?

How many Leppa berries did you churn?

How long in real time did you sink for a shiny Pikipek?
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>>29927695
When has shiny hunting ever not taken hours?

>>29927703
Read the thread you underage facebook retard.
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>>29927735
use False Swipe so it doesn't faint and when it is about to struggle just faint the original one and keep the ally so the chain doesn't break
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>>29927735
You can kill the original before it struggles and continue the chain from a new guy.
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>>29927742
I have no idea, I've never shiny hunted before.
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>>29927735
Switch.
You need to keep one member of the same family alive at all times, but it doesn't have to be the same one.
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>>29927757
Okay. Lucky for you this seems like the easiest method so far, but it still takes a while.
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>>29927742
read the thread after I posted this cause I'm a fuckwit, was looking for more of a fullish guide though is someone can be fucked posting
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>>29923746
How much is the speed increase? Is is like a consumable boost like a berry?
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>>29927729
I'm pretty sure that's not how it works.
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>>29923959
As long as you don't kill the last pokemon the chain should keep going. Since pokemon are not guaranteed to call for help.
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>>29927735
I just switched Pokémon when I got to 0 PP, and probably one hour of IRL time, maybe a little bit more.

You can kill the first summoner to keep the chain going as long as the summoned is the same species.
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>>29927339
Pancham is available at the same location, and fills the role better. It also learns entrainment on level up.
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>>29927635
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>>29924039
Anyone know how to get to this screen??
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There's no point in responding to the vast majority of post in the later half of this thread, because you're asking questions that have already been answered. Start from the very top of this thread and just start reading. Everything about the chaining methods is explained.
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Are there any synchronise pokemon in the dex? I really want to chain something with a desired nature
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>>29928428
abra and eevee evos, farming abra as I type
in a related note, anyone knows where I can get quick balls?
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>>29928505
cheers
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>>29928505
>farming abra
Is that even possible?
Are you using something with imprison+teleport?
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>>29928603
nah, just throwing ultra balls
thats why I want the quickies
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>>29928660
Oh, I thought you meant chaining them.
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>chained around 40 elekids
>still nothing
>starting to see more electabuzz's and chanseys
I thought this would be easier this is taking forever desu
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Only took about 30 calls for help to get this cutie.
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shinies were a mistake y/y
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http://pastebin.com/EwkzXmTV
http://pastebin.com/sV6rFcfA

Here's your SOS stuff guys.
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Do summoned Pokémon get affected by synchronize?
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>>29929245
I love shinnies. If I didn't have a job or a social life I'd spend every waking hour shiny hunting all of them.
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How the fuck can i get a shiny starter?, do i just breed it until it happens?, how long will it take and how do i get a female one or a ditto?
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>>29923923
I accidentally created a Pangoro with Scrappy and good IVs while learning breeding in X and Y. It's so sweet as a False Swipe user.
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>>29925242
I called my story team Lurantis "/vp/"
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>>29929245
You are just salty because you never found one.
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>>29925242
What's that nickname even from then?
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Is there a way to cancel the orb effect? I finally found a shiny but now it keeps summoning a new one every time it wakes up.
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Are any of you using the shiny charm? I don't even know if it's in the game/we're able to access it yet. Because if we can do this in something under like 200 encounters I'm all for trying it.
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>>29930798
Shiny charm is from showing a full Alola dex to the game designer guy.
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>>29930691
It's the trip of the guy that leaked the game. Lurantis.
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My pokemon stopped calling for help... Anyone help?
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>>29931259
You broke it, it just can't go on anymore.
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>>29926805
Random jackass reporting in, yes, that's calm.
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>>29931308

Hahaha!
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>>29930787
Just paralyze it.
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200+ chain, burnt all my Ethers. Is there a way to get more of them?
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>>29931469
What are its IVs?
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>>29931505
I have no idea how to get on that IV screen
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>>29930822
Thanks!
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>>29931469
If it's like past gens, Ethers should still be in the pickup table.
You could always use Leppa Berries instead as well. Those are really easy to stock up on using the berry island in poke pelago. When it's maxed, you get 12 leppas per plant
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>>29931469
Pupper?
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Do chains still continue if the pokemon kill each other? My stuffuls are killing each other with brutal swing
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>>29931912
now I gotta request a drawfag to draw Stuffuls in a mosh pit
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Does this work for eggmoves too?
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Not exactly related but yesterday I pokeradared a chain of 40 Pinsir on Platinum, and after ~50 super repels worth of resets I accidentally broke the chain and got no shiny.
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Damn this thread is making me hyped. Never got into shiny hunting because the DexNav/Radar methods were stressful as fuck but this new method seems very chill.
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>>29923663
WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED TO CORSOLA?
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I got a shiny trapinch quite easily with the new method... problem is it was timid.. anyways anyone know where hakamoo spawns so i can go shiny chain it?
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>>29925242
I am stealing that primarina nickname, A+++
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>>29924039
How do you get that screen?
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>mfw multiple schools of redditors trying to copyright this method with their super snowflake names like SOS battle, Ally Chain

It's just fucking called Chaining I mean WEW

>>29929367

Yes, but you can't meme the system with fainted Synchronise mons in Position 1, it has to be on the field.

>>29931912

No, you should be fine because they're both the same family, but if they're recoiling off eachother then that might be an issue cos they could KO on the same turn and then you're fucked.

That's hilarious, btw.

The "chain" aspect is connected to the battle itself, not to any of the pokemon in it. You only break the chain if you retardedly let a pokemon that isn't the same family as the original summoner stay behind, you HAVE to get rid of the non-related adds and keep the ones that are related.

>>29932419

Currently no evidence that you can get Egg Moves from reinforcements.
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So I'm not seeing anywhere where this method is explained, just results.

What exactly are you guys doing that is making shinies appear? Something along the lines of constantly farming calls for help?

I don't even know what calling for help is, other than that it invites another pokemon to the encounter,

Can some kind anon explain how this system works in the wild, and what I should do to optimize it when I get the game?
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can someone post shiny lycanroc midnight?
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>>29933816
there's been some form of chaining for shinies going back to 4th gen - considering the methods are different each time a slightly different name for them would be helpful like 'chain fishing'.

That said SOS battle sounds really fucking stupid.
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>>29933925
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>>29933983
I can't wait to get this cute bastard on Saturday. Gonna put those demo items to good use. Hope I get no guard
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>>29934080
what demo items?
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>>29934217
comet shard, balm mushroom, the wings. basically sell them for pokeballs and adrenaline orbs
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>>29933983
does lycanroc midnight have different stats?
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>>29934679

75/85
115
65/75
55
65/75
112/82

keen eye for both
sand rush/vital spirit
stead fast/no guard

Accelerock & Quick attack/ Counter & Reversal

Day on the left. Night on the right
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>>29934882
82 speed what?
does it get slower going on two legs or something.
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>>29934967
Gamefreak thought taking away 30 points of speed and adding 10 points each to HP/DEF/S.DEF was a good idea.

If anything they could have taking points from their useless special attack
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Okay but pokemon can call other species than themselves too (Often I might add) wouldn't that just break the chain anyway?
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>>29935393
The chain only breaks if the battle ends or you faint the original species you encountered and there's only a completely different species left on the field. So if you started with Corsola, it calls a Mareanie and then you faint Corsola, the chain ends because Mareanie won't call anything.
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I was going to hunt a shiny rockruff, when i was going that cave i found a random shiny wingull
fuck the rockruffs they have sand attack
Hunted a shiny magnemite yesterday it was 4 ivs -atk and Sp.def
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>Have to have synchro mon in the field
Fuck.

So, start with Pangoro to false swipe, switch to Alakazam to kill summoned friends/synchro, switch to Pangoro to false swipe new "bait" mon once the old one struggles to death, repeat?

God, physical natured mons are going to be a bitch to get this way, or HA ones.

At least shiny Vikavolt seems easy to get - weak and easy to find mon, only one final ability.
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>>29925242
>>29933405
What's the reference from? Did I miss something memetic during leak season?
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>>29926658
depends, you have to check the pokedex it will tell you

some dude managed to get a bagon to call salamence
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>>29928505
I think you can get Quick Balls on that supermarket in the same city with the Battle Royale, no? Can't check right now, but I do believe so.
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I'm not even at the first gym and this happens. should I evolve it? drifbloon is kinda cute the way it is.
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>>29936961
I imagine fainting your synchronizer and putting it at the front of the party will alleviate this issue...or at least it should?
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>>29923588
lol chaining caterpie right now. I'm at 165 and still nothing. This is getting ridiculous.
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>>29940145
Edit: I'm almost thinking the low chaining numbers claimed, like 30-40, just consolidate confirmation bias.
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https://twitter.com/forer0/status/798646459373682692
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What's the shiny rate with the shiny charm? Does anybody know yet?
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>>29940408
The shiny rate appears to be unchanged from last gen. Nobody has claimed to have the charm yet, but it would be safe to assume that the rate with charm is also unchanged.
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>>29939257
That dude here. Salamence called more bagon but I'm pretty sure it has the same 1% chance to call another Salamence as any other bagon
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>>29938206

It's from a game called Idolm@ster
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>chaining for HA
>they don't let you know when a HA shows up

Did they... did they seriously make it this annoying?
What the fuck?
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Also I would advise if you have money to spare, buy a shitload of potions to waste.

This will chip away at your PP. A good (and actually quicker) thing to do is use a potion. Even if your HP is full it'll just have no effect and go to the next turn.

Saves PP and time.
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>>29940601
Just use the adrenaline orb again
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>>29940601
then how do you make the pokemon call for help? you have to use your moves to kill it...
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>>29923588
Are nincada in Alola or do I resume hatching eggs
I fucking hate the eggs, I was going to do Phione but this Nincada mm has been going for almost a year.
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>>29940688

Obviously use moves to kill the ally.

I mean when you're waiting for it to call another.

Wasting a shit item is the quickest way to end the turn and is less wear and tear on you.
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>>29940435
There's an NPC somewhere that outright says "Your odds of encountering a shiny Pokémon are about 1 in 4000!"
So yeah, definitely unchanged.
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>>29923588
are there any pics of shiny alola forms? cant find any anywhere
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>>29940553
Just be aware of what the hidden ability is going to be and plan accordingly.
I chained eevee with a mon that had a fighting move so all I had to do was keep killing them until one of them "shuddered" from anticipate.

Just gotta plan ahead.
Or switch in a tracer every now and then
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>>29940851
You do know if you use an item like an antidote on a mon that's not poisoned it'll count as a turn without using the item right?
No need for potions.
Just a single antidote
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>>29923941
Thank you based anon
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>>29940921

Yeah anything like that works.

Dunno why I said potions desu.
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is nincada in these games?
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>>29927576
Correct, but make sure the current ally is the same pokemon or an evolutionary relative or that will break your chain.
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