Question- Are the Z moves good and can help shitmons being better?

>>29901461
Some of them are; yes they can.

Well not worth creating a new thread and this one seems close enough.

Can you z-move and mega in the same match?

>>29901461
A lot of interesting stuff can be done especially with weaker mons that may get powerful moves (Explosion, etc)

http://pastebin.com/d5Hed1cw
Here is a list of effects for Status Z moves. Not entirely sure if the effect happens before or after the moves or are unique to each move.
Noteworthy are Splash which gives +3 Attack as well as Mirror Move which gives +2 Attack and the mirrored opponent's move becomes a Z move.

>>29901502
As far as I know yes but you still need either item to do either, can't do both. Rayquaza can't do both as the UI shares the same location for Mega Evo and Z Move.

Since all pokemon get them it does not help weak mons in any way, they are still as outclassed as ever

>>29901545
>http://pastebin.com/d5Hed1cw
Thank you!

If i use moves that already have effects like z-sword dance or z-sunny day would there normal effects take place alongside the z-move?

>>29901545
Ok, but does that meanPokemon uses actual attack AND gets boost?
It would make sense for Destiny bond for example.

>>29901641
In the case of status moves it does the regular move + extra effect listed.
Regular attacks become attacking Z-moves of varying power (stronger base = stronger Z). I don't have a list of existing damaging Z-moves.

>>29901705
Woah that sounds neat and I can't wait to make neat strategies with Buffed bulkup or cosmic power
This genbattleswill be unpredictible!