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After doing a few title defenses and checking the text and trainer teams, I think this is the list of the 10 defense opponents. Each trainer has an alternate dialogue.

http://pastebin.com/vkaZNTra Trainers
https://projectpokemon.org/research/sunmoon/storytext.txt text

>Hau
>Hapu
>Gladion
>Faba
>Ryuki
>Sophocles
>Molayne
>Kukui
>Plumeria
>Youngster Tristen
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This thread deserves a bump.
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>>29856171
If you lose to them, what happens? Will they be saved as the champion then? Or do you keep the title regardless?
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>>29856171
Faba? Why him of all people?

Also, I think Guzma and Gladion will try to take the title.
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How long does this keep going on for?
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>>29856171
Nice find OP.

Most of them have 5 pokémon, except Kukui. Some have them efforted (Molayne), some not (Faba).
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>>29856259
Gladion is already there, Guzma is not in the dialogue rip or trainer team rip and thus not in the game as a title challenger. Also,
>Drayano60
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Can someone explain how the league work ?
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>>29856171
Who is Ryuki? I can't remember who that is.
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It's a shame that trainer team pastebin seems to be incomplete though,unless all those slots with level 5 yungoos are just empty space?
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Where can Guzma be found in the postgame?
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>>29856346
>mfw thinking of Dray's totem fights
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>>29856365
It's in the same vein as Unova and Kalos so you can challenge the E4 in whatever order you like.
First time you fight Kukui at the end.
Afterwards it's random, who you fight at the end.
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>>29856258
The same thing that happens when you defeat a champion in the previous games

Even if the challenger wins, the old champion remains there
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>>29856392
Battle Tree
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>>29856365
Being champion is now something real. The first time you beat the elite 4 you take the throne as Alola's champion and Kukui is your first Challenger. Every time you beat the Elite 4 afterwards a new challenger will come in to try to be champion. It's like Punch Out Wii's Mac's Last Stand. I dunno if they become champ if you lose and you have to get the title back, I haven't lost yet.
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What about Nanu, Mina, and Guzma?
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>>29856506
Cheers
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Is their a postgame fight with Kiawe,Lana,or Mallow aside from the Battle Tree? The pastebin suggest they only have main game fights but it seems it's incomplete with Captain slots that aren't filled with anything.
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>>29856604
You can fight them by visiting their houses. It's not postgame though
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>>29856171
haven't played the game yet, so would someone mind explaining who Faba, Ryuki, and Molayne are? I know the others, but hadn't heard those three names before. Are they important NPC's or just examples of random trainer classes?

Also if they aren't also random trainers, why is some random Youngster the only non-important challenger?
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>>29856171
I don't think Faba does.You can battle him in the Aether Foundation with that team
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>>29856649
Faba is Aether branch chief

Idk the others
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>>29856662
Ah that's right, I forgot about him in what's been shown. Still never heard of Ryuki or Molayne though.
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>>29856649
Ryuki is a dragon trainer with a ridiculous anime design.
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>>29856713
Isn't he supposed to be a rock musician?
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>>29856649
Ryuki is some kid dressed as a dragon. His team is also a monodragon.

Molayne is Sophocles mentor and the old steel kahuna. It's Kukui's friend too.
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>>29856171
Man I'm really hyped they included this. I honestly thought they'd never do it. I even just assumed it'd only be in a gym leader./rival rematch capacity
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>>29856649
Here's Ryuki
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>>29856171
>>29856825
>>Ryuki
Who?
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>>29856649
Here's Molayne
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>>29856825
>that design
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>>29856645
I can't seem to get Mallow to appear.
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>>29856529
There are post game fights against Nanu and Mina in the Looker quest.
Not sure about Guzma.
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>>29856852
>>29856825
>>29856754
Thanks a lot man. It is cool that they have some Champion-tier characters with specialized teams to add them in. So if I read it correctly, Ryuki has a Dragon team and Molayne is Steel? If combined with the other TC's, Kahunas, and E4's, that only leaves Normal, Bug, Psychic, and Poison as the only types that don't have a major specialist in the game. Still better than most gens.
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>>29856825
lol what a sonic-tier design
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>>29856955
Isn't Ilima a Normal-type specialist?
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>>29856955
>Normal
Ilima
>Bug
Guzma
>Psychic
Dexio and/or Faba
>Poison
Plumeria
>Ice
Sina, kind of.
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>>29856986
Oh whoops my b, I'm retarded. I meant to write Ice.

Ice, Bug, Psychic, and Poison seem to be the 4 types without a specialist.
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>>29856940
Can you only battle them once in the postgame? Because if that is the case, I'm really disappointed.
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>>29856394
Laughs evilly
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>>29857012
I know you can battle both Dexio and Sina early, but there's only a postgame team for Dexio, right?

The data was only for Moon, though, so could Sun have a postgame rematch against Sina instead?
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>>29856171
I think they have unique rarities. I'm sitting here soft resetting and this time I haven't had Molyane (had him before), Faba or Tristan
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>>29857082
They're both in the Battle Tree
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What happens when you beat all of them?
Does the list start over or is it completely random?
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>>29856365
Its like wrestling you have to defend your title against the #1 contender
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>>29857099
Oh, I know, I meant besides that.

It's just weird to battle Dexio two times, but Sina only once. Especially considering she's the only Ice-type specialist in the game and Dexio shares the Psychic-type with Faba.
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Faba is a simple post game fight, he is not at the league.
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>>29857120
It's not in order. You can soft reset and get different ones.
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>>29857178
But even after you beat one of them they can still challenge again right?
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>>29857204
Yes
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>>29857146
I only battled Dexio once and that was the postgame battle?
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>>29856171
Do they all share the same music (aka the champion theme) or it changes depending on who you're fighting?
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>>29856171
You know what? I find it really stupid how the Alola trainers don't use a mega evolution- Sure, they have the Z-crystal in their signature pokemon, but it would be a better challenge if they also had a mega.
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>>29857307
Isn't that actually thematic? They rely on Z-moves, while mega evolutions are more popular in Kalos and other regions.
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>>29857024
Bug is our boi
Poison is Plumeria
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OP here, I probably should explain Faba and the youngster

For Faba
>Champion... Now that is a title that everyone in Alola would bow before! I’m already a champion when it comes to power and prestige, after all... Taking this title would be my just deserts![VAR 0114(0015)]
>I admit you have potential... You have proved to me that my judgment of you when we first met was flawless, as usual. You are a worthy Champion![VAR 0114(0015)]
>As long as you claim that title, I will keep clawing my way here to you! That’s right! I’m here to relieve you of the title of Pokémon League Champion![VAR 0114(0015)]
>You wait... Someday I will claw my way back up here again... but I suppose I should congratulate you first! See how bighearted I am to praise my opponent![VAR 0114(0015)]
Those are clearly his lines and he has two copies of his postagem team in the trainer file.

For the youngster
>Hey, Champion! You’ve gotta recommend a move for me!
>I trained as much as I could on Route 1... I went through the whole island challenge to get here... and still! Man, the Champion really is something!
>Champion! I’m gonna serve you up a brutal helping of my Pokémon’s best moves!
>Well, at least I know you’ll never beat me in how much we each love our Pokémon, Champion!
I think there's an early scene with Kukui and a kid like this, So I just found the highest level kid in the trainer list.
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>>29858371
>Youngster challenges the Champion
>it's not Youngster Joey

DROPPED
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>>29858462
but anon, Joey wouldn't be a youngster by this point.
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>>29857297
The champion theme is actually the title defending theme.
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>>29858757

there IS a youngster joey though
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>>29857024
Faba is a Psychic specialist.
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If you lose to one of them, will they be the champion next time you challenge the league? Seems like the logical thing to do.
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>>29858964
No, you just black out as if nothing happened, like with everything in the game.
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>>29856529
>>29856940
I think Guzma is in the first town. He tells you to meet him at Hau'oli Beachfront to battle him.
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>>29856171
Plumeria: I failed again...like I always do. I promised myself I wouldn’t! I told myself I would never fail again! It’s all right to feel a little jealous, right? How else am I supposed to get stronger? My team and I really did take out so many Pokémon to make it here!
>like I always do
who hurt her I'll kill them
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>>29859095
>tfw chicken chan will never her hug her in support
;_;
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>>29856852
>Just fuck my shit up
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What's the Youngster's team?
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>>29859335
Bunch of mons and Alolan Raticate
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>>29859335
from the pastebin:
>Youngster Tristan
>5 Pokemon, all Level 59
>Emolga
>Sharpedo
>Exeggutor
>Magmortar
>Tauros
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>>29859502
Oh, and the Tauros has Normalium Z.
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>>29856392
Hes in a house in route 2.
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>>29858997
Wow, this game really is shit.
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>>29859585
Hey at least you can defend your title at all, which is something none of the other games had, so I guess that means all other games in the series are automatically worse than shit.
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>>29859585
I agree it'd be cool to fight for your title back, but I guess in their defense it works the same as the champions in the other games.

The champions before always were still there once you beat them.
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>>29856510
>Every time you beat the Elite 4 afterwards a new challenger will come in to try to be champion.

Wait what? You have to beat the E4 every time you want to accept a new challenger? That's lame. I assumed it would be something like you'd get a notification that you have a challenger, then you just go to the pokemon league and fight them directly. Why would you have to beat the E4 again as champion?
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>>29856171
>Tfw Youngster Tristen shares your name

Feels good
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>>29858371
Wow,Faba needs some more pegging from Wicke.
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>>29858900
The original Youngster Joey from GSC would, assuming he was 10 at the start of GSC, be 27 today.

>>29858850
Damn, now I know why the champions fight so hard. They wanna keep hearing that song over and over.
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>>29859806
In reality, that would be the case. But we are going this by game convention. Or should I say, my headcanon. The Champs couldn't be bothered to be staying on the chair waiting for challengers to come all day long 24/7.
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>>29858371
>Well, at least I know you’ll never beat me in how much we each love our Pokémon, Champion!

Fuck, why did that hit me so hard? Is this what true power feels like?
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>>29860074
What are you gay.
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>>29860032
I'm thankful they put this feature in, but I'm also disappointed with the lack of effort. Why couldn't it be something like this:

>Every so often, you get a notification saying you have a challenger. If you accept right there, you are directly sent to the pokemon league for the battle. If you decline, you can resume what you were doing and accept it later.
>Challenger is either a random NPC trainer, or an important trainer (Red, Guzma, Gladion, etc)
>If important trainer, use their team with max IVS, best move sets, etc
>If random NPC, use correct thematic team for their class, with best move sets, etc OR use 6 random fully evolved mons like in random battles in Pokemon Showdown


That would be so much better than what we got
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how are people playing sun moon, and is there any way to emulate it?
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>>29859956
>The original Youngster Joey from GSC would, assuming he was 10 at the start of GSC, be 27 today
Red and Blue are in their early 20s and Youngster Joey was younger than them

He'd be closer to 17
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>>29860194
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>>29860248
please tell me
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>>29860206
Interesting.
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>>29860154
Would love if they implemented this too.
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>>29857512
Ice and Psychic are Sina and Dexio, respectively.
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>>29860154
Would be fun to get some rewards for that too. Increasing your reputation by defeating challengers, unlocking some Champion related clothing etc.
And if you refuse too many challenges you eventually lose your title.
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do they use 6 pokemon

i don't get why gamefreak continues to make endbosses not even use all the pokes
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>>29859806
Acerola and Kahili to a degree mention something about it. Acerola basically says that the champ must always prove that they are still stronger than the e4. Both of them also want to beat you and take the title for themselves.
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>>29859806
The portal to the champions Hall is magical and only opens if you battle four times.
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