Ghetsis is actuallly a foster father,so he doesn't really count.
>>29855521
ghetis because of fashion sense
Giovanni since he just straight up abandons his son forever because he lost to a 10 year old then tries to be evil again according to Generations
Giovanni abandoned him for at least 2 years and we never see them really interact but he's the best one
>>29855521
A tie between the last two
Ghetsis probably raped N at least once
Lusamine was under the influence of both a jellyfish and grief so I excuse her. She made up with her children in the end too.
>>29855549
A father is still a father....even if that father was absolute shit.
>>29855584
And Lusamine almost certainly raped Gladion a minimum of 4 times
>>29855562
He didn't try to use his kid for some twisted plan
The other 2 didn't care for their children at all and saw them as tools
I can't see Giovanni as a bad father because of Adventures
>>29855562
>>29855574
Giovanni at least didn't try to off his child with little thought unlike the latter two parents
>>29855521
Giovanni intentionally distanced himself from his son so that he wouldn't get fucked up by involvement with Team Rocket.
Ghetsis adopted N for the sole purpose of taking over Team Plasma and eventual world domination.
Lusamine was probably a pretty caring mother until she was exposed to Ultra Beasts.
So probably Ghetsis.
>>29855521
Ghetsis, by far.
Definitely Ghetsis.
>>29855521
Lusamine shes a complete monster.
>>29855521
They're all equally shitty parents.
>>29855521
Ghetsis is the worst parent out of the three, Giovanni is the best.
Prove me wrong.
>>29855521
Lusamine.
She looks like she came out of a mom NTR doujin.
>>29855643
Lusamine was awful to Lillie after she broke, though.
>>29855521
Ghetsis by far, iirc Lusamine is controlled by Nihilego's poison or something?
>>29855521
Ghetsis is the most evil character in pokemon. So him by default.
>>29855737
Apparently she went bonkers even before that, UBs just made it worse.
>>29855521
I really want to see what would happen if Lusamine and Ghetsis adopted and raised a kid together.
>>29855521
Lusamine, UB-01 only amplified her, meaning she was probably Ghetsis levels without it anyway.
>>29855893
That'd be fucking terrifying.
Ghetsis > Lusamine > Giovanni
Ghetsis straight up doesn't give a shit about N and manipulates him. Lusamine is a terrible parent too but she was fucked up by the UBs and eventually made up with her kids. Gio is the least offensive of the three cause even though he abandons Silver, he at least doesn't try to kill him or use him for his own ends.
Giovanni at least doesn't drag his kid into his plans.
>>29855730
So is Hau the "Takashi" in this situation?
>>29856122
No, UB 01 is the Takashi.
Ghetsis tried to shape his foster son's entire worldview so he would end up as someone fitting to summon a legendary. N's life until BW events was one giant lie.
Giovanni is just real life levels of kinda shitty Dad really, can't compare to the other two.
>>29856291
>>29856723
10/10
Giovanni is just neglectful.
Ghetsis is manipulative.
Lusamine is abusive.
Although Ghetsis is the worst overall because his "son" was never anything more than a puppet to him, he never got outright abusive until N actually failed.
Meanwhile Lusamine was so bad after her descent into insanity that Gladion and Lillie couldn't take it and ran away.
>>29857805
How are all three of them not abusive?
>>29855734
But she wasn't always like that, it was a combination of despair and jellyfish's drugs, Giovanni and gethys are just assholes.
>>29857888
Giovanni's not abusive is he? I mean walking out on your kid is shitty, but I don't know if I'd call it abusive.
>>29855549
Now where is your source for this?
>>29858063
The games
>>29855737
Nah,its literal NTR shit Nihilego just woke up her true desires
>>29858013
Nah Ghetsis and Lusamine are much worse
Lusamine was the most emotionally abusive. She just neglected Gladion, but with Lillie she basically made sure to brainwash her into being completely dependent and without any sense of self-worth.
At least Ghetsis kinda let N do his own thing and had the maids and Pokemon raise him.
But Ghetsis is probably the worse because Lusamine actually loved Lillie at some point.
Is Giovanni really neglectful though?
I mean imagine if he was avoiding his son on his wife's request, or because he's you know a criminal. Various undesirables could use them as a way to hurt him.
>>29858335
her children are just ungrateful
>>29858790
Stop posting Nihilego
Joe Barney was merely an absent father.
Dennis let Enu be his own man to a degree.
Lusamine is Ragyo 2.0
>>29855521
Probably Gaycheese, but I'm waiting for S/M like a pleb so I don't have any reference for Lusamine.
>>29858874
Lusamine was a perfect mother, but she had two ungrateful children who didn't understand her. Gladion was an edgelord thief who became a delinquent and Lillie is a shit Mary Sue who is better off dead. Doesn't even appreciate her own mother sleeping with her. Nihilego is a much better daughter than Lillie. Cuter too.
>>29855591
Tbh this.
>>29860281
>>29860281
t. Nihilego
>>29855591
This gets Lusamine out.
>>29855628
This gets Giovanni out also.
Ghetsis is horrible at the end of the day.
>>29860281
Welp, didn't think I'd get a fit for this so soon.
>>29855602
I love N's remake art. I can't tell why--he's basically the exact same character, just with less shadows--but he looks so much happier. It's cute.
>>29860281
In Lusamine's defense she was completely absorbed by the loss of her husband and her exposure to Nihilego only made things worse.
I haven't seen much of the ending but apparently she came back to her senses at the end.Also I'm pretty sure her husband is that Poke Pelago guy
Ghetsis straight out used his son.
Giovanni acknowledged his son but abandoned him to fulfill his goals.
Lusamine was possessed by an Ultra Beast and so she didn't have full control over her actions. Lillie said on Exeggutor Island that Lusamine used to be really kind and sweet to her. Even at the end of the game, when Lusamine was freed from Nihilego's possession, she comforted her daughter.
>>29860281
I wonder who's behind this post.
>>29855521
Giovanni abandoned his kid without a word but he was still on reasonable terms with his rebellious son.
Lusaminewas on drugs.so she might not have been in her right mind in hermisplaced grief over Professor Mohn's disappearance.She still has a chance to better herself since her daughter still cares and remembers the good in her.Gladion still has scars though
>>29860281
>>29860635
She did. And yes he is most likely 100% undoubtedly our missing guy.
>>29855521
Ghetsis. The other have some redemption. But Ghetsis is just insane and murderous
In Lusamine's and Giovanni's defenses, they didn't named their son Natural Harmonia Gropius.
Ghetsis is definitely the most cruel one.
>>29858525
Giovanni's wife (Ariana) is a criminal too, you know.
>>29860824
AHAHAHA. Grope-ius.
>>29860826
>Ariana was never confirmed as Silver's mom
Rustles my autism. She's Giovanni's only/closest female associate and there's no way her redesign being made to look a lot like Silver was unintentional, but it's never touched upon.
>>29860516
>Ultra shitposting.png