Apologise

/me apologizes
Now prepare to be part of my new stall team

>buff mantine
>no buff to skarmory
rip partner pokemon

>>29849760
they will be both OU now

It's still going to be shit

Apologise for what? I love Mantine. Ever since I ran into one in Gen 2 and thought it was a super rare Pokemon.

>>29849714
with scald and roost this thing is gonna be perilous

Ok, given the HP buff and roost, what can Mantine properly do now? Any reason to use it instead of Skarmory?

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>>29849714
I'm not sorry

>>29850643
You use them together. Like Skarmbliss, but with Mantine instead. Skarmant.

Pikachu, juman boruto da!!!
It'll be shit.

>>29850678
give literally any reason to use this core when anything with an electric move completely destroys it
not only that, but mantine adds a weakness to SR
not saying that mantine can't be used with another wall (will probably be good paired with ferrothorn), but the idea of a skarmtine core sounds like shit

>>29850707
>using Pikachu
>ever

>>29850643
Why are you comparing a special wall to a physical wall?

>>29850745
mostly because special skarmory is a thing, so I guess physical mantine will be one as well

What can Skarmtine do that Skarmchans can't? I can't think of anything aside from Scald.

I'm sorry. I wanted you to drop to PU, but now you're RU at least

>>29850710
Mantine+Ferrothorn or Mantine+Hippowdon comes to mind

>>29850767
Counter Keldeo, but not sure it they should be used together. Maybe Skarmchanstine

>>29849714
I did consider using it when I was desperate for a Water Absorb user to deal with Scald, but its lack of recovery at the time made me pass it on. It should be pretty good now, OU material possibly.

>>29849714

I'm sorry you had to suffer Gamefreak's incompetence for 17 years before becoming viable.

>>29849714
>Pachirisu used Nuzzle!

I can't wait to read all the New Pokémon nerf/buff lists. Where are all you getting this info?

>>29850982
Seconded.

>>29850997
>>29850982

paste dot ee/r/zYMUr

Ctrl+f for (!) to see all pokemon with changes

>>29850982
Here are all the relevant movepool changes:
http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/movepool-changes.3586517/

If someone could post the pic of ability changes and stat buffs that would be great