New Sets for New Mons

>>29845082
>Not using First Impression

Explain yourself

>>29845117
First Impression is only 10BP higher than physical Leech Life and only works on the first turn. Leech Life also restores half of the dealt HP back to its user, thereby allowing for this bulky attacker set.

>>29845082
I see this fucking thing and its monstrous potential, and then I see /vp/ whining about it's ability constantly. I just don't get it.

Anyway, looks good. Poison jab may work better than Rock slide, though. Aqua Jet covers Fire types already, and Poison nails Fairies hard, which seem like theyll be more present this gen.

I'm wondering if a "/First Impression" should be added after Liquidation as well. You're right in Leech life being the more desirable Bug move, but having a base 135 priority move might be useful in some instances. There's no metagame for SM yet, only theory crafting, and I'm not about to cross examine several hundred calcs to see what faster pokemon it may need that large damage on, but it's significant enough to be noteworthy and a potential option.

>>29845161
But muh +2 priority

so adamant or jolly mimikyu?

modest or timid Z porygon?

mixed (with power gem) or all physical minior?

>>29845082
At what level does wimpod evolves?

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>>29847103

>>29847122
Thanks m8

>>29847122
What do "level up at electric" and "level up at summit" mean?

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>>29845308
>forced to switch without doing shit if literally anything outspeeds its measly 40 base speed and does over 50% damage
>"monstrous potential"

>>29847282
summit = that icy mountain

electric = somewhere on the 4th island near the end of the game

"electric" is the same thing that mons like Magneton and Nosepass need to evolve

>>29847396
>140 base defense
>125 base attack
if you actually go through and calc things there's not many physical attackers that can do 25% to it, and it can often 2HKO them back

>>29847437
I'm going to have to wait that long to evolve Charjabug? Shirley you can't be serious?

>>29845560
these are the real questions here also it fucking sucks that literally the only flying move minior can learn is acrobatics. I mean i know its a good one but still, I'd like Air cutter or something if I wanted to go special

>>29847623
its one thing that vikavolts stats are eh, but you dont even get to evolve until you're almost done with the game and that really sucks

>>29847623
Do what I did and use pkhex to "evolve" it.

So in the case of Toxapex could I run Toxic spikes, baneful bunker, and protect and just be a really annoying piece of shit?
or will baneful bunker and protect not alternate like that?

>>29848882
No, it's probably like King's Shield and it'll add to the protection counter so you'd have to run one of the two.

>>29849059
I thought they specifically gave him first impression because of his switching playstyle. You use first impression and then your ability triggers when your opponent attacks you.

>>29848882
Baneful Bunker is protect you don't run both.
Only run T-Spikes if you plan on using merciless
If not and you still want tspikes always make sure you get two layers out because poison as a status sucks
But really, don't use Merciless and Spikes because this thing will be on most teams and will cancel that strategy out immediately, because of this Recover and Regenerator are better. Probably use Liquidation and Venoshock as attacks anyways.

Lycanroc Midnight @ Choice Scarf
Ability: No Guard
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Adamant / Jolly Nature
- Stone Edge
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Suggestions for other moves?

>>29847396
>Shit ton of Defense and good HP
>Bug/Water is a decent typing without an obnoxious amount of weaknesses
>Access to plenty of priority moves, one of which is intensely strong and works in tandem with it's ability
>Access to recovery via Leech Life
>Auto switching not even necessarily being an outright bad thing, potentially a very good thing especially given Golisopod's tank like nature, almost ensuring the foe takes some sort of damage beforehand, potentially opening yourself up to set up and sweep.
>"B-b-but it's bad cuz I dont wanna :("

>>29849177
its major weakness is Stealth Rocks. If you want to use it you'll need some hazard control or it will be much less useful.

>>29849152
its attacking stats are kinda shit though
I assume I should at least run toxic on it then?

>>29849204
Peliper and Mantine were buffed for a reason. Also, don't Dhelmise and Komaka learn Rapid Spin ? And Decidueye Defog ?

>>29849204
Sure, I'll agree with you there. There's definitely some sort of hazards management needed. That limits it from switching directly in on something unless it resists it, UNLESS you use it as an auto pivot.

I think it's a fair weakness to have, though. Defog being as good as it is, and as common, especially being on Pelipper now. It's a weakness you can play around.

>>29849177
>weak to rocks
>slow as shit and only has priority once
>""""tank"""" with hp effectively cut in half for actually staying in something
>only recovery is a move that is resisted by a ton of pokemon
>"b-but it must be good cuz it's muh bro ;_;"

>>29849255
>125 base Attack STAB Aqua Jet
>Sucker Punch
how is that "once"

So wait does it switch out when it's HP falls below 50% or when it gets hit with an attack that does more than 50% to it at once?

>>29849219
yup dhelmise is a spin blocker and a spinner

>>29849263
Oh no! A 40 BP move and and a situational priority attack that can be avoided by any defensive Pokemon! Whatever shall I do!?

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>>29849308
>moving goalposts

>>29849255
>Weak to rocks

Yeah man, sure did stop Talonflame and Charizard

>Slow as shit and only has priority once
>What is Aqua jet
>What is reset on First Impression
>What is Sucker Punch

>""""tank"""" with hp effectively cut in half for actually staying in something

Sure, if you choose to use it in the most non-ideal situation.
>God damnit Ferrothorn is such a shit tank, can't even take a Flare Blitz well!

You're not gonna use this thing to try and wall entire teams. It's clearly meant as type of pivot, which this thing does fantastically. Throw an Assvest on this thing, and not something meant to stay in and set up. You'll play it to either get off tanky, strong priority, or deal good chunks with Liquidation/Leech life against things that don't outright threaten it.

>>29849308
>40 BP

60 actually. STAB, bitch.


>And a situation priority attack that can be avoided b any defensive Pokemon!

Yeah, youre right. Sucker Punch is pretty trash imo senpai

Also, if theyre defensive, you don't need to rely on Sucker Punch, and can just smack it hard with Leech Life, Liquidation or Poison Jab.

It's gonna be RU shitmon and you guys know it

>>29849422
now you jynxed it

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>>29845082
>not constantly abusing choice banded first impression + water jet
step it up senpai

>>29850519
>choice band fist impression
u wot

>>29850556
>not using Choice Band to abuse Bug ExtremeSpeed

>>29850556
you use first impression, emergency exit activates, than you use first impression again later
massive damage ensues

>>29850564
But it's like Fake-Out, you can only do it turn 1.

>>29850585
>>29850578

>>29850585
it's still massive damage

>>29850612
What if they predict it and use D-Dance or something? You lose.

>>29850649
That doesn't require a prediction. But it's still a last resort if you need to take something out.

AV will definitely be its best set, I'm just memeing you

>>29850675
>av on something that needs to get hit for reasonable damage to work out
there's going to be a lot of calc work for this guy.

>>29850697
AV lets it take a lot of Special hits comfortably without activating its ability, which allows it to use its non-priority attacks much more effectively.

trust me

I've spent the last few days running calcs

>>29850787
Have you run any Vikavolt calcs?

Is... is there any hope?

>>29850798
it outspeeds Mega Lopunny after 1 max Speed Agility, so it has that going for it

It seems completely outclassed by Tapu Koko but it could have a niche if you really want a slow Volt Switch mon

>>29850842
>red card
>opponent knocks you below half
>they are forced to switch
>you are also forced to switch
>you gain switch advantage

>>29850610
But for Emergency Exit to activate, it NEEDS to take a hit that does enough damage to switch it out, considering its bulk it may not be enough. You'll be forced to switch and give the opponent a free turn. I don't think Band is a bad option, but it's not great with FI.

>>29850871
Ooooo

>>29849163
Knock-Off

idk what else it cna learn. Where do I find the movepools?

>>29850787
Thinking about this some more.

Its ability might actually be really valuable, because it basically lets you sacrifice it/suicide it twice. I'm not sure what kind of team can use that, but it seems like it could be great on the right team.

>>29850932
https://paste(dot)ee/r/zYMUr

>>29850957
>>29850932
good grief it doesn't even get Knock-Off

Fire Fang
Return/Frustration/Crunch
Brick Break/Stealth Rock (scarf rocks is pretty effective)

that's quite the puny movepool after 7 generations and 3 trillion introduced attacks

doesn't even get Pursuit or Power-Up Punch

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Is this just a fuck up from PKHex's part or will it actually make my pokemon illegal?

>>29845344
I've heard that it also flinches. Is that true?

>>29851289
PKHex seems to say every possible location is invalid, I'd just ignore it and once its fixed you can always edit it again.

Which one would be better? Honestly I want it to be at least usable

Vikavolt @Life Orb
4 HP/252 SpA/252 Spe
Modest Nature
-Agility
-Thunderbolt
-Bug Buzz
-Energy Ball/Flash Cannon

or

Vikavolt @Assault Vest
252 HP/252 SpA/4 Def
-Volt Switch
-Bug Buzz
-Thunderbolt
-Energy Ball/Flash Cannon

>>29851400
No, but it deals an assload of damage right away.

>>29851478
I don't know Vikavolt's stats off the top of my head. Does it have the bulk to get an Agility off?

>>29849111
You know it won't work like that though. It's too slow to ever recover any health with leech life so it can switch back. The ability will probably only ever activate once per battle. Taking hits just to switch is trash when they could have just given it uturn. Making this thing all about switching when it's weak to stealth rock is stupid too.
They should have made first impression flinch and have this Pokemon switch after any attack hits it

>>29850578
>Use first impression
>get hit and drop 50%
>switch out
>Come back in and lose 25% of health to rocks
>hit first impression
>KOed immediately after

>>29851706
The ability can happen multiple times per battle.

>>29851609
it's 77/90/75 bulk with only 5 resistances

I don't think so

>>29851778
It only has 2 weaknesses, but its resistances aren't great attacking types to begin with.

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>>29847122
>Both of my favorite Pokemon this gen have location specific evolutions

You can't even fucking get Vikavolt till the end of the game.

>Xurkitree has 173 special attack
>Learns Tail Glow
What do with this thing? The ultra beasts in general look like very promising uber shit.

>>29851478
>slow volt switcher

Not. Even. Once.

>>29851777
How is it ever going to recover the health back for the ability to activate again when it it's only got 40 speed and bug is still resisted by 7 types

>>29851812
>Fighting
>Ground
>Electric
>Steel
>bad attacking types

>>29851826
Crabominable evolves even later

>>29851826
Enjoy Chargabug's higher speed until then

>>29851843
All of the Ultra Beasts with a really high stat like that have a move to boost that specific stat.

>>29851865
I couldn't think of those at the time, Bug and Poison were the only ones that came to mind. It'll be worth at least trying it out with Agility.

>>29851854
there's a lot of Bug-weak mons in OU, and it takes a chunk out of things that it hits for neutral as well.

Also, your suggestion would be fucking broken and unfun.
>haha I'll just use this 135 Power Fake Out with no way to play around it

>>29851881
Yes, but Tail Glow gives +3 as opposed to +2 like Nasty Plot.

>>29845560
I've seen
Minior@Consumable item
Relaxed
72 HP/ 252 Atk/ 108 Sp.Atk
-Shell Smash
-Earthquake
-Acrobatics
-Power Gem

No speed investment because after Smash you outspeed everything.

>>29851962
There do the rest of the IVs go?

>>29851978
Woops, went to type 184 on Sp.Atk.