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1 week left
How you doing buybros?
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>>29834202
I'm getting hyped!
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>>29834202
Someone fucking speed up time
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Im killing myself soon so idk ok
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>>29834202

Despite completely spoiling myself, my hype still grows stronger as the release date approaches.

It's too bad my favorite Alolamon is shit.
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>>29834202
I'm so fucking excited to use the new Pokémon, some old bros and other old Pokémon I've never used before
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>>29834247
Who is it anon? I know one of mine is pic related
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>>29834241
Just get it over with already. It's the only entry into the pokemon world.
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>>29834241
If you're still around when Sun/Moon are released, could you trade me your Litten for a Pikpek before you an hero?
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Even if you're a buyfag there's no reason not to hack your 3DS
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Haven't been this hyped on a Pokemon game in really ever. Considering I've been hyping this game since Perfect Zygarde's reveal, one more week feels like an eternity. Knowing that it's there for the grabbing yet you can't take it makes that wait even harder!
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>>29834289
If only
>>29834292
Sure anon
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>>29834202
>1 week
If only.
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>>29834312
11.1
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>>29834312
I agree, if I wasn't on 11.2 I would already be playing the game. I've definitely learned my lesson regarding the benefits of having a hacked 3DS, and of course I'd still own a physical copy as well
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Im about to fucking pirate it
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>>29834202
Bad!! I try to get a spoiler free day and just out of thin air a wild leak/datamine appears im not sure if im gonna make it through
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Going just fine actually. Just going with the flow of things.
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My 3DS has CFW

I have downloaded and installed the game

Yet, I wanna wait until the 18th for some reason
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>>29834312
Can New 3DS' be hacked or is that still not a thing?
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Eh, I do have a modded 3DS and Sun is available, but I'm too lazy to move from emunand to AL9H or whatever so I can use a bigger SD card the game will actually fit on.
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>>29834386
This

I think it's because I already pre-ordered and going to a launch party anyway. And I want to experience it the same time as all the normies.
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>>29834202
Fine. I don't mind the leaks too much. I've avoided a lot of minor story things still though
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>>29834312
If I do miraculously manage to get my hands on one of those Mario N3DS that are releasing for Black Friday, I may hack my old 3DS
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>>29834351
Cool?
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>>29834202
THERE'S NO FUCKING POSTGAME
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>29834202

I only cared about meta speculation, so now my thirsts have been quenched. I'll definitely still buy the game but I no longer feel a constant nagging urge. I might just wait until school is over
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I downloaded it and canceled my preorders
I'll buy the Third Installment :^)
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>>29834202
I'm trying my best to avoid leaks, but it's nearly impossible, because some people just put spoilers in their thumbnails. I'm worried I know who the champion is now.
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>>29834725
>Battle Tree
>UB Quest
>Captain Rematches as if they were Gym Leaders
>E4 and Champion
>Defending Champion Title
>Bunch of other minor shit
>NO POSTGAME REEEE
Just shut the fuck up faggot, you don't even know what the fuck you're talking about
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Why pay for something you can get for free AND a week sooner?
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>>29834863
also eevee trainer quests
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>>29834863
Don't be silly anon, you know the only things that count as postgame are the Battle Frontier and going back to an old region. :^)
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>>29834902
First time I'm hearing about this
Elaborate?
Also you get to battle reformed Skull Grunts and Plumeria, if that's any good
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>>29834312
it's wrong
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>wanted to pirate then import save on my cartridge
>on 11.1
Fuck, just release that shit that will let me downgrade already. What really pisses me off is I had work off today a burger but don't next friday when it releases.

Also pissed that four of thatr of the pokemon I want for my team you don't get until halfway through the third island. Thankfully I could just ask someone to breed them and send them to me.
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>>29834970
Getting the most out of your hardware =/= wrong
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I can't wait for everyone else to play the games.

I'm 35 hours in and still finding things to do. Once I get to go online it's going to be nonstop Pokemon for a while.
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>>29834952
see >>29834803
i think once the dust settles we'll agree that as far as pokemon games go this has a pretty good post game
t. buybro so i don't REALLY know but it sounds okay so far.
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>>29834445
>kopaka
My n word
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>>29835058
Buybro here too
Despite the daily shitposting and even though I spoiled myself of every little thing I'm still getting Sun and I'm beyond hyped
Can't wait for next Friday
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>>29835094
the exact same, even down to getting sun. i'm extremely hyped as well.
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>>29834952
You search the lands for these old trainers who used to be looked up upon for their specialization in Eeveelutions.

It's very depressing. They openly talk about death and how it's nearly their time, etc.
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I'm excited. I've already spoiled some important story points, but there's still plenty to look forward to.

Also, I love Trick Room, so these speed stats are like candy to me.
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>>29834863
>literally my mom's broken down PWT
>literally nothing
>literally nothing
>literally nothing
>fake
>wow, it's nothing
>REEEEEEEE
/vp/ eating shit from gamefreak's boot like always.
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>>29835143
I'm just replying to (You) because I'm feeling generous
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>>29834863
AND you have to catch the Tapu's which are a pain in the dick

AND you have to get Cosmog
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>>29835186
>MORE CONTENT IS BAD
>WHY CAN'T THE GAME JUST GIVE ME THIS SHIT
Only on /vp/.
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>>29834402
old and new 3ds on any firmware can be hacked. now how hard it is depends on your firmware version, 11.0+ require hardmod or another hacked
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>>29834327
>>29834347
>>29835018
>updating when Nintendo haven't added anything new to the 3DS in over 1 year and half and has only been blocking stuff

Also if you weren't even more stupid to update again to 11.2, here's a friendly reminder again that there's a free exploit coming after christmas in the next console hacking presentation. Hope you learned from your mistakes and will be patient this time.

>>29835049
ikr? People are so stupid they believe the meme this is just for le eeleegul game stealing and don't realize how much they can do with this. There's no reason not to spare a couple hours and have full control over something you're supposedly own. And now they're sad people can play the game 10 days earlier (15 if yurop) while they can't. Even if they ARE buying the cartridge, they could just move the save over with JKSM.

>>29834402
New 3DS is EASIER to hack. Browserhax work on 10.7 with a trick, and A9LH can be installed straight from 9.2. It takes like half of the time to fully hack than Old 3DS.
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>>29835400
>after chrismas
Source?

Anyway yeah I was a dumbass, had pkhex and everything and I updated for some dumbass reason. On 11.1 though so I just need to wait.
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>>29835452
on the 33c3 they are most likely going to show slowhax, and with the release of slowhax we have a arm11 kernel exploit that allows us to do the dsiware downgrade method withotu a system transfer, thus allowing us to downgrade 11.1 and 11.0 firmware consoles.
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>>29835452
Don't have right now, it's scattered over leddit. But it's some nedwill guy that's trusted in the scene that are gonna release them.

The hacks that I know that are coming are:
>musichax - homebrew access from the music player. There was a video of it earlier in the year but I think it went private. It's gonna be primary.
>slowhax - known arm11 kernel exploit.
>Possibly an arm9 kernel exploiit he's known to be working on, but I wouldn't count on it.

With slowhax and music hax alone, it'd already be possible to downgrade with a single 3DS using Fieldrunners ($5). But another possible race-condition exploit on the version check that prevents downgrading has been found, so it may not be necessary.

Slowhax and the race-condition thing on the version check both have been patched on 11.2
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>>29835534
Dumbass with no programing knowledge here, how easy will it be exactly to downgrade once released?
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>>29835590
you'll need to have a entry point on 11.0/11.1 already to be able to use ctr-httpwn and buy fieldrunners from the eshop (this is a must and menuhax doesnt work for this).

If we get lucky then musichax will be released too and we get that together with slowhax (>>29835570)

from then on its just following a simple guide with "drag these files on your sd card" "press this button on your ds"

takes 2h or so, but well worth it
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>>29835630
Okay I want to make sure I got everthing right. I have a entry point in the form of stickerhax right now. With this is the only other thing I need is that eshop game?
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>>29835724
yea, at least wishlist it in case they take it down (fieldrunners)
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>>29835724
Yeah, definitively buy it if you can. If we're extra lucky you may not 100% need it to downgrade, but we have no guarantees. With it however, we already have even the tool to install the save, you just need the arm11k exploit to be released.
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>>29835759
Gotcha. I don't to update to buy from the eshop do I though? Last question.
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>>29835788
You can access eShop with ctr-httpwn
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>>29835788
start homebrewlauncher, start ctr-httpwn, back out of the homebrew launcher WITHOUT REBOOTING (it crashes to homemenu). Now you can go online with your ds without update nag (even play games online)
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>>29835802
How do I do that on 11.1?

I just tried entering the eshop to wishlist it and its denying me access as I won't update.
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>>29835400
Yep, I'll be the first to say it was a mistake. I never really knew that much about the 3DS Homebrew scene until recently though. So will musichax be the most convenient method once released? Will definitely stay on 11.2 until I can exploit my system
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>tfw 11.2

Where can I buy a noose?
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I knew /vp/ was most cucked and normie 3ds owners

refusing to hack your 3ds just wow there's no reason not to
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>>29834363
The only things I look at are stats/names, and semi important stuff, I aint gonna spoil myself entirely on the plot. looking at what Mons we have has helped a lot.
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>>29834202
I've managed to avoid a lot of spoilers, to be honest, one was on YouTube without a spoiler warning.

Worst part is I have to wait 5 more days.
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>>29834202

I'm doing fine. Currently working on monster job grinding in Dragon Quest VII during the post game.
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>>29835977
>tfw youtube is constantly giving me spoilers in recommended videos
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>>29836050
Exactly what happened to me, I can't even listen to the music to get hype without being spoiled.
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>>29835959
I keep my Pokemon legit.
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>>29836086
Why? There's no difference.
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>>29835937
musichax will allow you to use savegame managers and stuff, but you won't be able to downgrade with it when you are on 11.2
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I am the least hyped I've ever been in purchasing a Pokémon game and if it wasn't for my closest practically begging me to get Moon because he's getting Sun I would've dropped this series for the first time in 18 years here.

I am immensely pessimistic about this game and my expectations are at rock bottom. So maybe the silver lining is the fact that my low expectations means something even remotely decent will seem amazing.

"Drop of water in a desert" and all that.
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>>29834278

Araquanid.

I was hoping it'd be like a special counterpart to Golisopod, and it kinda was, but they gave it such horrible attacking stats.

Don't get me wrong, though, I'm still gonna use it. I'm just a little disappointed.
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>>29836167
*my closest friend

I meant
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>>29835977
This. I have even seen a single picture of the last two islands
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>>29836167
>I am immensely pessimistic about this game and my expectations are at rock bottom.
but why tho
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>>29836208
*Haven't
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>>29836149
Does "stuff" include custom themes? Literally the only thing I've ever wanted to hack my 3DS for.
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>>29834202
Yeah, I wish. Fuck living in Europe.
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>>29834202
Pretty good. At this point I'm just buying Sun to have something to play.
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Sitting out by my mailbox with a chair to meet the mailman on the 18th :)
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>>29836250
ye
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>>29834202
I'm trying to not spoil myself the story.

I have so much work at the university this days, so I can't play it on an emulator properly and I will wait for the real game.
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>>29834202
Leakbro here.

Calm your hype faggots.
The new mons look like garbage and the gen 1 rehashes are nothing special.

Story is longer and better than XY/ORAS though.

Oh yeah the game runs like garbage too, even worse than XY/ORAS.
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>>29836380
>The new mons look like garbage

Faggot.
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help me think of a nickname for rowlet
>>29836451
also this
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>>29834202
ehh i'm fine, bored mostly. Most of the bad stuff isn't really deal breakers for me but the replacements and removal of super training and the general RNG bs of the plaza have just beyond pissed me off.


I just liked ev training my starter asap so he'd be the best he could during the journey, that way even as I stopped using him i felt i got to see him at his best and he could 'retire' happily. plus I fucking hate gen 5 exp system without EV stats.
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>>29836380
>Opinions, Opinions
>Actually good
>Meh
Good try tho, but you won't stop me from getting the games and enjoying the living shit out of them
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>>29836468
i'm not going to pick rowlet for my first playthrough but i'd give him some kind of old english sounding name like Adelard or something.
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i'm not getting it until the 23rd
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>>29836468
Call him Edgeworth
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>>29836468
Owliver Green.
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>>29836209
Mr. OR/AS himself, Ohmori sitting at the head of this game.

Massive deviation from what we've had in the last 2 decades with the removal of a leauge and E4.

Obvious inclusions or consideration of certain Pokémon or characters is ignored leaving me to assume the sloppiness/laziness and unbelievable oversights of this gen.

More legends than Sinnoh with a lesser national Dex than in Kalos.

A more casualized game in a post Go world meaning this will probably be easier than XY.

Stupid 12 hour gimmick between games.

Rediculous amounts of gen 1 pandering, yes it's the 20th anniversary but it's a goddamn new gen which is why the fact that...

... More Kanto Pokémon in Alola than ALOLA Pokémon is retarded. It was bad when they diluted gen 2 with Kanto mons in Johto and it's bad now.

Additionally I hate the concept of Alola mons. Not just for being gen one only, but the idea that these mon look the same EVERYWHERE on the planet EXCEPT Alola because reasons bug me.

There are some pretty good new mons this gen, the game looks pretty and more expansive customization interests me but that's fucking it. I just don't give much of a shit about this game and my friend playing Sun is the only thing keeping me from dropping it.
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>>29836167
It's more like Black and White 2 than X and Y, if that makes you feel more optimistic.
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>>29836050
>listen to SM music
> a whole list of pokefan internationals videos are in recommend
>all those spoilers
>mfw
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>>29836468
Hawkguy
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>>29834202
pretty good. Haven't been spoiled yet
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>>29836646
Come on, dude
That's too unoriginal
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>>29836653
>removal of league and e4

stopped reading there
phew, maybe play the game first before you build a strong oppinion
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>>29834202
Still have no idea which version to get tbqh.
Was set on Sun when they were revealed.
Since then I decided to get Moon instead.
Now knowing half the version-exclusive mons I just don't fucking know any more.
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>>29836653
Thanks for listing actual flaws with the game, you're the first one I've seen all day.
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>>29836702
Ah, and 'Hawkguy' and 'Edgeworth' were exemplars of originality.

Well, if it wasn't for the character limit I'd suggest Bertie Hooster.
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>>29836717
Wasn't there a leak about being able to get some of the exclusives in the postgame?
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>>29836702
How come no one thought of this?
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>>29836798
>both archers that are ghosts
Holy shit anon
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>>29836730
how are any of those actual flaws,

80% of what he said are assumptions and not even true... and then he just really hates alola pokemon and the 12h timeshift.

Buy sun if you don't like the timeshift, why would you even care about the other version that much.

The game has flaws, but the shit he listed are none of em
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>>29836468
Byowie
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>>29836796
No idea, only leaks I've seen since the game was announced were the starter leaks, and the entire Pokedex leak. No idea which Pokemon get shared between which game outside of Lycanroc forms, poster-legendaries, and the two monkeymons.
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>>29836826
>>29836468
just like the anon just said, name him takumi
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Pretty ok, I'll get it day one and pick up some Genesect cards while I'm there. Trying to avoid story spoilers right now, doing ok at that. I don't mind the wait that much.
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>>29836674
Fucking him
His videos don't fuck off
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Are there any version exclusive Ultra Beasts outside of Expansion and Beauty? Keep hearing mixed signals on this one.
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>>29835143
Friendly reminder, Battle Frontier is never coming back. Get over it all ready, and besides you all have showdown for your glorified battle simulator.
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>>29836900
I apologize, I dug through the archive and found the thread; After I went to sleep that night they found out that all it does is change the time displacement to the other version's, although it can also let you get a second Cosmog, albeit one that evolves into a second copy of your box legendary.
>>29806260
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>>29837120
the ub4's are version exclusive as well as some alolan forms. thats what i heard
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>>29837135
im playing showdown right now lol
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>>29837120
I've seen this posted which implies no, but I'm mostly in the dark just as much as you.
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>>29834202
>1 week
Y-yeah...
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I'm doing fine. I've accepted that I'm too lazy to look into converting a .cci file to one that I can use with Citra and I'm too lazy to hack my 3DS. So I can wait another week. There are always more games to play.
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>>29834312
It's too late m8.
I had the homebrew for a while but i had to update.
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>>29836082
"Part 15 of Sun playthrough"

>has the name of spoilery boss battle
>AND A FUCKING PICTURE OF SAID BOSS IN THE THUMBNAIL

Why are youtubers such retards
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>>29835400
>updating when Nintendo haven't added anything new to the 3DS in over 1 year and half and has only been blocking stuff
I agree with you, but a lot of the time people are forced into it by nintendo because they start blocking shit like the eshop - I have 2 3ds's, one I am waiting for slowhax on the other I had to update because I get free codes for games from work sometimes but you have to go to the eshop to redeem them. yeah, I'd have downgraded while on 10.7 if I'd known about hacking back then, but I didn't, and by the time I found out about it I was already on too new of a firmware to pirate without hardmod which is out of the question for me

guessing I am not the only one in that boat
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>>29837185
It's so weird that Gamefreak said nothing about Ninetales/Sandslash and Turtonator/Drampa being version exclusive.
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>>29838007
Vulpix and Sandshrew's lines have always been version exclusive in every game they've appeared in. The fact people thought it would be any different this time is retarded.
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>>29838532
And they were always in the same version.
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>>29834312
I've got a reason. I'm too fucking lazy to look up how to do it and then actually do it.
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>>29834241
Hang in there anon. I believe in you.
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>>29834202
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Been losing hype due to revelations from mining such as how hyper training works and the nerfs to things like Gengar or the Soul Dew.
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>>29834202
Pretty good, playing moon on Citra till i can pick up Sun on the 23rd
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buyfag here

Does preloading it on the Eshop mean you can play it right at midnight or is it like steam where you have to wait an hour anyways?

Debating whether I should get it digitally or go to a midnight launch
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>>29838602
this :-(
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>>29834312

I wanna possible play in some real fucking tournaments
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>>29839668
Keep all your homebrew shit hidden. If you've got A9LH installed, they won't be able to tell.
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I lost all my hype due to what piratefags say.
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>>29834202
Just peachy since I hacked my other 3DS so I could Nuzlocke Moon and pick up a Drampa while I wait for my Sun preorder to come in. There's some damage to the screen and the cover came off of the analog stick which is why I'm not using that 3DS once I get the game I paid for, but it works.
>>29835113
They do?
HAHAHA THAT'S HILARIOUS, SUCK IT EEVEE FAGS.
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>>29834241
stream it
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>>29834202
feel good about it. I ordered 3 copies on Amazon for 31.99 each.
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Are people already hacking pokemon in?
if so, How?
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>>29835400
They start blocking shit like the GTS and eShop when you don't update. That's why I ended up updating and losing my homebrew entry point.
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>>29839141
I think you get it at 9pm on Thursday if you preload. The countdown on mine updates every night at 9:00pm. It currently says 6 days until distribution starts
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>>29834312
I'll only hack it when it's near the end of it's life cycle.
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>wild pokemon can call for backup
who though this was a good idea?
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>>29837135
Anabel was in the battle tree, that could be a sign that Battle frontier is coming back in future games?
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>>29836653
>with the removal of a leauge and E4.
Stopped reading.

No not really, but the rest of the post is retarded too.
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>>29842105
>who though this was a good idea?
Every old RPG ever?
Git gud. It's not hard.
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its anooying because apparently your charcter is retarded and cant aim when theres more than 1 pokemon.
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>>29834202
I don't know. The game seems to be a mixed bag in terms of what I'm interested in. Also, I feel like I'll regret buying it because of the inevitable 3rd game.
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>>29842274
>>29842299
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>>29834202
Reading up on some potential sets for new pokemon and UBs.
Minior's a fucking beast. You don't even need to invest in it's speed, as long as you give it Shell Smash, and run it as a mixed sweeper.
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>>29834202
ok, currently looking for a shiny oddish, soon to be shiny Bellossom.
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>>29842334
>because of the inevitable 3rd game.
It's been eight years since we've gotten a third game. Barack Obama hadn't even been elected President of the United States last time we got a third game.
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>>29842334
>inevitable 3rd game
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>>29842660
I kinda hope they do one just because it'd be a "surprise" at this point. Also, I really like Alola as a region, so I'd love to see a refined and improved version.
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>>29834202
Getting around to beating elite 4 on diamond, but my game keeps freezing.
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>>29834202
haha, yeah, 1 week...
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I don't think I can do this, anyone have that link for citra and moon? I will buy a copy since I'm a moralfag but I need to play it.
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>>29834202
One weekend of work left....please just let me live through the nightmare that is restaurant service so I can play these fucking games
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>>29836114
It's a perceived difference. Sentimentality and ethics.
Not everyone is a type A personality like yourself.
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>>29834202
doing good. Patience will always be rewarded with results. Plus I'm doing a mono grass nuzlocke run on my JPN Heart Gold. Can't wait to fight Ho-oh.
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Playing PW: Spirit of Justice , Persona 2: Innocent Sin and Valkyrie Drive
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>>29845309
>playing nip
Why?
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>>29834312
I just play Pokémon and will support the games so I have no reason to
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>>29834202
Felt burnt out from Pokemon about two months back so I'm taking a break from the games until S/M. Currently replaying OoT 3D and MM 3D. Never did Master Quest and the revamped dungeons are pretty nice.
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>>29845339
who is girl in pic related?
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>>29837185
>all those bros in Sun
Knew I made the right choice
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I skipped out ORAS as XY fissapointed me pretty bad. Was there any additions in terms of mechanics that are important?
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>>29834228
Say no more.
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>>29834202
>settings
>hide thumbnails
easy, besides obvious shit like lillie being lusamine daughter, UBs being catchable and not the characters they resemble to
I don't have a single spoiler, dont even know how the other UBs look or the whole pokedex, but everyone hyping wimpod evo so I cant wait to get one and evolve it
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>>29842779
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Despite spoiling myself on a lot of things I've really only gotten more and more hyped. Thursday night can't come soon enough, and I have Friday off of work, so I plan on spending a good amount of the day off.

The only disappointments I'm having is that I'm getting Moon and I was really wanting Alola Vulpix, and Sun Lycanroc. So I guess I'll have to trade for a Vulpix Egg and see if I can get someone to evolve my Rockruff for me.
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>>29845541
Ema Skye from the Phoenix Wright series.
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>>29834202
>ordered the steel book, called out of work for next weekend, bought gamerfuel and the z-ring
I'm ready for my 32+ hour marathon
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>>29845791
if you wait till later in the game you can catch S-Lycanroc in the wild.
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>One week left
>Still don't know what to name my trainer
>Still don't have nicknames for my entire team
>Still don't even have the last member picked out

This is rough. I might just end up winging it, but I feel kind of bad about it.
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>>29842817
You''ll get a shitty Diamond/Pearl remake before that happens, with HM's returning as well, because "ride pokemon are an alolan custom only" bullshit they will pull
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>>29834312
I choose not to.
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>>29846808
Sun --> Charlie
Moon --> Denis
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>>29838949
I need this borb now
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>>29845437
this
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>>29834312
There are literally zero games on the 3ds I'm interested in playing other than Pokemon.
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>>29834202
Confused, really. I'm still trying to put together the lore about the region (e.g. Necrozma) without getting myself spoiled too much. I've seen the ending, but I want to wait until the game releases to see the majority of the story.
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>>29834202
I'm currently flooded with coursework and don't even have any time for S/M anyways. Conveniently enough it comes out on the first day of my Thanksgiving Break.
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>>29834202
>11days left
>sun and moon files online
>tempted as fuck to mod old 3ds to play
>but then probably wouldn't play through the bought game since i am not a sucker playing a story two times
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>>29834202
pretty damn hype honestly. in spite of all the imperfections i'm looking forward to playing it

i'm also looking forward to petting and grooming my new bros. i just like feeding them and seeing them happy.
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>>29834202
At least i have time to take care of real life before sun and moon release
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