So which one did it best? Which do you like best?

They're all pretty great

Wimpod is gross but I like the other 2

I like all three but if I had to chooose

Bugbro>Miltoic>Gyarados

Cosmog

Do we already know if Chadpod's ability works exactly the same as Wimpod's?

>>29807815
I love pod's design but I don't like that he ended up so gimmicky. So Gyarados > Milotic > Golisopod

>>29807815
>So which one did it best?
Gyrados
>Which do you like best?
Gyrados but I like Milotic a lot more design wise

Gyarados
Gyarados
OU tier when?

>>29807922
It passes stat changes apparently. So automatic Baton Pass.

>>29807815
buffpod because i am a sucker for mecha

and noodle because i am a neverchanging degenerate just for her

>>29807815
Milotic>galisopod>gyarados

bugbro a best

Gyrados and Milotic are just generic "start weak/ugly, end strong/beautiful" while Wimpod starts off a wimp and actually retains a bit of that character despite getting buff l

>>29807815
Garydos did it best because you didn't know it would become this from a magikarp unless you used a guide or got far enough you encounter an enemy garydos and see it appears right after magikarp and put two and two together. Milotic is the worst because catching it is nigh impossible. Pod is the coolest because just look at that guy, tell me he isn't awesome.

>>29807948
Its gimmick is potentialy good though.

>>29807815
>tfw no mega golisopod with samurai swords

>>29808122
if thats true chadpod will be great
>SD chadpod with SD mimikyu

>>29807815
Gyarados and Milotic are on a league of their design-wise. But I also like Pimpod

Gyarados is the best. Milotic is for waifufags and the bug thing is just to pander to legit autists

Kabutops and Armaldo

>>29807815
Golisopod>Milotic>Gyarados
I hate that weird crook in Gyarados' neck

Milotic>Golisopod>Gyarados>>>>>>Mega Gyarados

I hate that giant shrimp. It looks ridiculous and far less intimidating.

>>29808236
>Mega Golisopod is the same thing except it's holding sais in its small arms

>>29808846
This is why it has mold breaker, dummy.

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>>29807815
>>29807838
>>29807922
>>29807948
>>29808128
>>29808808
>>29808876
Golisopod isn't even a true coutnerpart to these two, Gyarados and Milotic have 540 BST and are both serpentine

>>29808152
>Gyarados and Milotic are just generic "start weak/ugly, end strong/beautiful"
literally very few other pokemon are like this to make them generic enough. Stop trying so hard to be a special snowflake

>>29808966
>starts useless
>ends up with over 500 BST and a great moveset
sure thing

>>29807887
unironically this

little fella goes from worst than unown tier to cover legend tier

>>29809000
They're comparable, but still not as solid a connection as, say all the pseudos are

>>29808966
it's clear as day they were going for the same concept. just because it wasn't applied in the exact same way with "serpentine" final stage means nothing. stop being so autistic.

>>29809028
We still call Metagross a pseudo despite it not being a dragon

We still call the Tapus a legendary quartet despite having 10 less BST than the legendary trios

>>29808966
Golisopod goes from 230 BST to 530, it's not Gyarados levels of impressive but that's fucking huge compared to other mons

>>29809068
Pseudo was never about being a dragon. Pseudo was always about being a three-stager with 300/420/600 BST.

>>29809062
>>29808966
There are similarites and parallels for sure, but not enough to warrant calling it a counterpart

>>29807815
I love all three but personally:
Gyarados>Golisopod>Milotic

>>29809062
>just because it wasn't applied in the exact same way with "serpentine" final stage means nothing
i like how you ignore the BST the two shared vs Golisopd. Besides, Gyarados enrages and destroys, Milotic becalms

>>29809068
>We still call Metagross a pseudo despite it not being a dragon
look up what pseudo legendary actually means, will you?

>>29809100
I did say they are comparable, but they are not true counterparts

>>29809196
thank you

>>29809555
Golisopod is the "intelligent" counterpart if you really want to go that way

and it still fits the pattern of a weak Pokemon becoming insanely strong

>>29809734
>and it still fits the pattern of a weak Pokemon becoming insanely strong
again, I never denied this. Learn to fucking read

>>29809776
That's all the pattern is, faggot. That's all that made Milotic a counterpart before until you decided to narrow the definition for no reason.

>>29809555
the bst is fucking 10 points. you're being ridiculously autistic. we aren't talking about a 450 bst.

do you want to say the tapus aren't legendaries because they have 570 bst instead of 580 and they're a trio not a quartet?

and like the anon above said. if you actually pay attention wimpod goes from being a wimp and running away to being smart and knowing when it's best to withdraw.

Milotic.

>>29809555
By your logic Feebas getting more moves than Magikarp and even getting egg moves makes it not a Magikarp counterpart. Also Feebas doesn't evolve at level 20, or by level at all, while Magikarp does. So really none of them should be counterparts going by your arguments.

Golispod
Literally none saw it coming

>>29807815
GOLISOPOD > Gyarados > Milotic

>>29809808
>That's all the pattern is, faggot

Just because you ignore the fact that Gyarados and Milotic have more similarities, doesn't mean they don't exist

>>29809925
>By your logic Feebas getting more moves than Magikarp and even getting egg moves makes it not a Magikarp counterpart. Also Feebas doesn't evolve at level 20, or by level at all, while Magikarp does. So really none of them should be counterparts going by your arguments.
the slippery slope scale. I pointed out clear objective similarities that Gyarados and Milotic shared more than they do Glisopod. If people think I'm being autistic for this, you're even being more autistic by bringing up shit that doesn't matter when we're looking at the context of the """trio""" brought up by OP. Stop bringing up strawman

>>29809821
Gyarados and Milotic also share similar stat spreads, with HP, Defense and Speed being equal. they also have their second egg group as Dragon, Golisopod is Bug. Gyarados and Milotic thus also learn many similar moves (i.e., Dragon).

Again, there are similarities among the three, but they are not a trio because Gyarados and Milotic have far more in common between them than among all three

>>29810794
I guess Suicune isn't part of its trio because it was a cover legendary. Your definitions are far too narrow. Golisopod, Gyarados and Milotic create a trio of intelligence, strength, and wisdom, and they all have a similar theme of evolving from useless mons.

Also, nice job forgetting that Golisopod and Gyarados share the same Attack and Special Attack stats.

>>29808074
>implying he's moving from UU

>>29810874
>nice job forgetting that Golisopod and Gyarados share the same Attack and Special Attack stats
so 2 vs 3 stat spread similarity. The two still have more similarities. Thanks for proving my point.

>>29808152
>Wimpod starts off a wimp and actually retains a bit of that character
He doesn't. Tactical retreat isn't being a wimp.

Milotic is the best one

>>29810911
You're not understanding me. They have enough similarities to be considered a trio.

>>29810095
I don't know about that. I'd definitely seen a lot of speculation about it being this gen's Gyarados.

>>29810095
Saw what?

>>29810955
Just like Jynx, Electabuzz and Magmar?

>>29809734
>Golisopod is the "intelligent" counterpart
where was Wimpo ever mentioned to be stupid?

Magikarp went from weak to strong
Feebas went from ugly to beautiful

wimp is opposite of enlightened? I like all three, I'm just confused here

What level does Wimpod evolve then?

Golispod's ability ruins it
Was gonna use it in moon, but the ability is terrible.

>>29808122
Wait, seriously? If so, that changes everything.

>>29807815
Why is Bugbro there?
Wishiwashi is the Pokemon this gen that starts useless then turns into a badass.
Bugbro is good from day 1.

>>29811158
It gives it more opportunities to use First Impression.

That said I do wish they gave it a non-gimmick HA like Tough Claws. Its Speed holds it back anyway.

>>29811198
Wishiwashi is only competent in a group. It doesn't turn into anything by itself. It's not even comparable.

>>29811093
Yes

>>29811093
Wimpod is cowardly and runs away without thinking. Golisopod is smart enough to know when to retreat.

>>29808122

I refuse to believe this.

How come no one who has played the game can tell me these mechanics?

Does it activate immediately after an attack, or at the end of the turn?

(what boosting moves does it get in case you aren't lying?)

>>29811316
it gets Swords Dance, Bulk Up, and Iron Defense

>>29811231
Its School Form is more or less comparable to an evolution, it gives the mon a huge boost, it's pure water like the other two, and it even gets this form at level 20.
There's no true Magikarp counterpart this gen, since none of these Pokemon start with only Splash, but Wishiwashi comes closest easily.

>>29811342
>Gyarados
>pure Water
>>>a 620 BST mon with Defeatist is comparable to a 540 BST sea serpent

>>29811375
I meant Wishiwashi, Magikarp, and Feebas.

>A 520 BST Water/Bug with a built in baton pass is comparable to two Sea Serpents with 540 BST

>>29807815
Gyarados>Milotic>buggo
I like wimpod and its evo alot but milotic and Gyarados are some of my favorites for a long time bugs gonna need to impress me somehow

>>29811341
Those are useless if hes just gonna swap out and lose them at 50% hp

>>29811439
It's 530 BST

and an evolution is still far more comparable than a gimmick form change

>>29811535
Not really.
Oh man Sunkern goes from 180 to 425 when it evolves it's tots just like Gyarados.

>>29807815
Milotic is Water/Fairy?
PkHexfag here, I want to start with Milotic, fuck Alola starters

Milotic>Gyardos>Golisopod

All of them are fantastic, though.

>>29810923
The reason he tactically retreats is because he spent his early life getting his kicked and running away so much

>>29811614
Oh man Milotic evolves from contest stats and not leveling up it's tots just like Gyarados

>>29811441
>Gyarados>Milotic>buggo
>I like wimpod and its evo alot but milotic and Gyarados are some of my favorites for a long time bugs gonna need to impress me somehow
this pretty much. Golisopod is still going to my team though

>>29811489
did you even bother reading the comment chain you replied to

>>29811743
Despite the different evolutionary conditions, Milotic and Gyarados actually do share a lot in common.
>Starts as a useless fish that only knows splash
>Evolving it from this stat typically takes a lot of effort
>Evolves into a powerful water serpent with 540 BST

Wimpod has very little in common with Magikarp and Feebas, comparing it to the two is dumb.

wimpod is terrible. even if wimp out is baton pass, he's not going to get anything off with that speed.

gyarados is neat.

>>29811248
>Wimpod is cowardly and runs away without thinking. Golisopod is smart enough to know when to retreat.
the inclusion of the direct opposing traits seem forced but okay

>>29811886
>priority STAB 90 power move

>>29811198
you're joking right? wimpod is incredibly weak

>Still haven't found a way to evolve Feebas in Moon

Shoot me now, anons

>>29811198
Glad I'm not the only one who had this train of thought. Although it could be considered a gimmickmon

>>29810794
>completely ignores the tapu point

not even going to bother to continue to entertain your stupidity

>>29812017
I initially thought Wishiwashi may be the new Gyarados, but not really. In fact, neither Wishiwashi nor Glisopod are. They are comparable in terms of weakling > suddenly powerful but they occupy their own lanes, and are not direct counterparts like Milotic was

>>29812014
You can fish up Prism Scales

>>29811886
>not going to get anything off with that speed

Did you miss his great defensive stats and typing

>>29812089
Can I do that anywhere, or is there a specific Pokémon/location I gotta fish at?

>>29812133
You also get a freebie at Exeggutor Island, if you're fine with waiting that long.

>>29812251
Not sure where/when that is.
I've just cleared the third island.

milotic was my water mon of election until the special/physical attack split. high spa/spd+recover was too much to ignore back then

>>29812048
The tapus are irrelevant because we have legendaries with stats ranging anywhere around sub-600 to above 600. Legendaries are a very varied group, unlike the three pokemon we are talking about here. The tapus are a group of their own, just like other legendary duos or trios are a group of their own, with their own similarities and themes. You are using false analogy, here, and you claim others are being stupid.

I don't understand what is with Golisopodfags that feel like being a Gyarados 2.0 is some sort of validation that their bro would not be as useful, powerful or popular if it didn't receive that status.

Facts:
Gyarados and Milotic are both fish to serpent, with 540 BST, three similar stat spreads (HP, Defense and Speed), are partly from the Dragon egg group, whose traits are direct opposites from their fish preevos

Golisopod, while evolving to become powerful from a pathetically weak pokemon, only has 530 BST, only shares two stat spreads Gyarados, is part of the Bug egg group, and clearly isn't a fish to serpent evolution.

For them to be a trio, Golisopod should also share similarities to Milotic in terms of stat spreads (they don't). He has less stat spread similarities with Gyarados than Milotic does with Gyarados, and again, a different BST.

Weak is directly opposite to powerful, ugly is directly opposite to beautiful, being afraid is not a direct opposite of being enlightened.

There are similarities but not enough to warrant them from being a trio.

>>29807815
Milotic but I'm biased because I'm one of those fucking weirdos that caught one in gen 3.

Literally went space by space fishing 10 times per tile until I found the right tile. Marked that tile in my strategy guide and caught like 12 of them. My first EV trained pokemon, too. Milotic is fucking amazing.

>>29808966
It's totally the Allolan counterpart.
>2 stages
>ugly/weak evolves into strong/beauty
>second form makes drastic changes
Only difference this time its color pallet didn't change.

Has anyone uploaded the full Pokedex images of all the Pokemon yet?

>>29811860
He probably didn't get splash because of Z-splash and his abiliyt would be broken and wimpod is easily a shitty enough to be compared to magicarp and feebas.

>>29812765
>only base stats/cosmetics count as similarities.
This is a really weak argument.
GF probably doesn't care if the base stats line up after 3 gens, plus it's a 10 point difference, fits a different role in game so no surprise it's stats aren't the same, wimpod fits the theme well enough.
>weak-strong
>ugly-beauty
>coward-warrior(something else probably fits better)
But it's close enough, anyone whose adamant about it not being similar enough is just trying too hard.

>>29813698
>>29813471
>Wimpod is like Magikarp/Feebas because it sucks XD
Wimpod's stats are comparable to many stage 1 bugs, just compare it to Caterpie or Weedle.

>>29808074
Sorry man, double electric weakness is big weakness. Plus the speed isn't that good without a dragon dance buff. I love Gyarados since gen 1, but it takes skill to use. Moxie is awesome for the runaway train KOs though.

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>>29813698
>multiple objective differences/similarities AND aesthetics are weak arguments
>posts nothing but "it fits the theme" as a counter
wew lad

>>29813698
>coward-warrior(something else probably fits better)
the fact that you decided to go for themes as the deciding factor and yet you yourself could not create a decent argument you're sure of speaks volumes

>>29810794

>Just because you ignore the fact that Gyarados and Milotic have more similarities, doesn't mean they don't exist

Everyone else was discussing a weak shitmon becoming a powerhouse and you went on your own tangent. Literally no one brought up the serpent similarity but you.

>>29814744
being serpents isnt the only thing that the two share more than they do with the third

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Milotic best pokemon of all time

>>29814327
Not really much skill. I still use tauntridos because it dumps on so many dudes not named sableye. Just taunt slower walls. Dragon dance in their face and sweep teams. Don't like 4x weakness to electricity? Mega evolve and shit on rotoms day.

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>>29808145
>>29808846
>>29809825
>>29810932
>>29812464
>>29812969
>>29814859
All this excellent taste ITT

>>29807815
MY BOY G-DOS

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>>29809062
>>29809068
>>29809821
>>29809925
>>29810955

Ya'll are reaching hard. It's pretty obvious to anyone with eyes that Gyarados/Milotic possess a duality to their designs, stats and respective concepts. Try thinking of Gyarados as the male half and Milotic as the female half inb4 'they can be both genders'. literally shut the fuck up. There will never be a third. The theme of "weakling grows up big and strong" is prevalent throughout the whole pokemon franchise, and Wimpod evolving into Golisopod is a shtick all it's own.

>>29807835
ur gross

>>29809734
its BST isn't distributed in the same numbers around though.

>>29807815
Wouldn't Wishiwashi match better? Of these, I agree with >>29807838

>>29808122
>>29811439
>>29811886

>passes stat changed

Gonna need a source on this because it sounds like bullshit

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>>29815831
I really don't understand why they think they have to be validated by being a counterpart. Golisopod is pretty cool enough on its own lane, and I like it very much. But clearly, it wasn't meant to be an actual counterpart

>>29816635
It's just /vp/ being dense assholes like always.