In your opinion. which one is less shitty and where would you

>>29792190
They're all pretty terrible sadly - though I can see Decidueye and Primarina filling some limited bizarre niche similarly to how Chesnaught did with Bulletproof.

>>29792190
Primarina. EVs on SpAtk and... HP? I not goot at theory crafting, and I don't really know which mons are in that speed tier

Even though I like Decidueye the most, I think Incineroar has the most goin' for it.

Balanced 95/90/90 defenses backed up by a 115 attack is pretty decent.

I'd go 248 HP/ 252 Attack / 4 Def / 4 Sp.Def (Because I'm autistic and need the defenses to be equal if the base stats are equal), Adamant, on a Blaze one.

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>>29792398
i think this anon has it right, HP/ATK incineroar is whats up.

>>29792190
>This Pokemon uses its moves without making contact with the target.
Wtf why?

>>29792448
stony headwear

>>29792190

Primarina. Boost it's HP and Def to give have tank more attacks, and with it's moveset and high Special Attack it can destroy a lot of mons before going down.

>>29792448
No Iron Barbs/Rough Skin, Rocky Helmet, Flame Body, Static, etc. Also ignores defense boosts from Fluffy.

>>29792190

Decidueye, Speed and HP primarily.

>>29792190
incineroar has fake and out and intimidate
it's the only one that already has a purpose

>>29792448
Rough skin. Poison point. Static. Rocky helmet. Steel Barbs or whatever ferrothorn has. Cursed body

>>29792190
With intimidate and 95/90/90 defenses, Incineroar could be a pretty cool bulky fighter.

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>>29792190
Incineroar is kinda similar to machamp stat wise I think.
Probably go adamant, max out attack and use the between HP and maybe def.
Give it an assault vest, bulk up and leech life. I think that'll work.

I dunno, man. I only use gimmicky fighting teams on Showdown so :^)

primarina is the least shitty by far. incineroar is the worst but he's about as bad as decidueye.
max HP/SpA Primarina as a bulky attacker, fast nasty plot incineroar and bulky SD decidueye.

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>>29792635
>assault vest
>bulk up
go sit in the corner and think about what youve done mr

>>29792635
>assault vest
>bulk up
why do you fucks always try and throw assault vest on everything when you have no idea how it works or who it works on

>>29792190

Remember acouple days ago, when inceneroar fags were making dozens of threads shitting on the owl for being too slow?

Lol

>>29792635
Verlisify please go

>>29792190
Decidueye is my favorite, but I think it'll be the worst competitively. So many of those SpAtk points should've gone into speed.

The other two won't be anything to write home about, but at least Litten seems like it'll be usable. Bulky enough to take a hit and retaliate. Still, there are much better options for all 3.

>>29792190
Incineroar got a nice bulk with acces to intimidate, U-turn, some nice stab move and Leech life for some recovery.
It will probably be good in VGC and doubles.

It wont rock the meta, but it will probably find some niche.

>>29792700
>implying literally ANY of the starter shit posting is by a "faction" from another starter and not just shit posters literally shit posting about anything

>>29792190
The fire one is absolutely worthless. No redeeming qualities.

The Grass/ghost is trash due to speed and can only compete in the world of Alolan slow-trash 'mons.

The Water/fairy, though not great is useful as a special defense wall who can blast back with powerful STABs off a 126 special attack.

>>29792642

95/90/90 HP/D/SD is pretty respectable by any standard, plus Intimidate makes him a solid switch in. Catbro is easily the most universal IMO.

Agreed on owl being the worst.

Prima is interesting, but Liquid Voice is a shitty ability. You can switch in, same as firecat, but otherwise limited bulk makes it a struggle.

Cat is good, not great though. Seal is niche useable. Owl is nothin.

>>29792190
Woah! When was it confirmed that Decidueye is Grass/Ghost?

>>29792635
>>29792635
Why put assault vest on something that already has good special defense

>>29792760
I agree

honestly I think they will all be okay in doubles, but incineroar is the stand out with fake out and intimidate

All of them fold like paper to one hit before getting to make a move, but Incineroar can at least debuff the opponent on switch in. Being able to accomplish one thing at the very least makes it the least smelly of three turds

>>29792190
Incineroar @Leftovers
Intimidate
252HP/252Sp.Def/4Atk

Fake out
Leech Life
Toxic / Will-o-Wisp (if it learns it)
Protect

Incineroar likes to be hated. And we all know how most players hate stall.

>>29792893
>Toxic / Will-o-Wisp (if it learns it)
it learns both via TM

>>29792811
When the starters were officially revealed around a week and a half ago.

>>29792448
Because it's an archer, so it doesn't need to get in close to attack

>>29792190
Off topic but why the hell do the models in the blue boxes look weird? Like something is off with them and I can't quite tell what it is

>>29792965
they don't have the black outlines they do in game

>>29792190
Decidueye because it's the only one who can actually use choice scarf and not be ass still, plus its offenses are high enough to kill both inceniroar and primarina rather quickly, only problem is that inceniroar has intimidate so physical Decidueye sets have a harder time against it, otherwise the owl has it the best

>>29793039
>the owl has it best
>70 speed

>>29793039
Popplio learns ice beam

>>29793039
I fail to se the logic in your post anon.
While i agree Decidueye NEED speed to be good, Incineroar and Primarina can probably do just fin without it.

>>29792190
banded incineroar is gonna be pretty ok
blitz/dark stab/uturn/filler
plus intimidate
its like my moms lando t

>>29792190
>Primaria is a poor man's miltoic . The only real benefit is fairy. No good recovery like miltoic. It's ability isn't worth it since scald gets the job done

>Decidueye might be decent as a set up for baton pass. The ability is situationally since not main mons get contact counters with other better abilities other than chomp and ferro

>Incineroar will pale in comparison to other bulky dark and fire types. It doesn't have wear down like heatran and umbreon ,but not the kill power of t-tar or m-camerupt . If in future games it gets knock off and sucker punch it could be good

>>29793448
which are you picking?

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>>29792190

Decidueyes Sp.Attack should have been swapped with its Speed.

that would have been more than enough to make it good.

no one uses both Atk and Sp.Atk on the same pokemon it is a waste of EV points.

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>>29792190
Im not gonna bother with decidueye

Incineroar
Can go either bold(doubles), impish or relaxed

248 hp
4 into attack or def
252 spdef
Leftovers
Intimidate

Will-o-wisp
Fire stab (not flare blitz because its a bulky set)
Rest is pretty much filler fake out and snarl would be good for doubles
But hes just a boot leg arcanine at this point


Primarina
Modest
248 hp
252 Spa
Choice specs
Torrent
Unless liquid voice gives boost just use torrent
Hydro pump
Ice beam
Moon blast
Filler

>>29793549
None evolving torracat out speeds most new mons

>>29792398
You want 8 SpDef for Download 'mons. Also Intimidate is eons better than Blaze.

>>29792190
Decidueye probably can do multiply roles tho with how good its move pool is.

>>29793639
People do for Kyurem-B and Infernape tho.

>>29793639
>Infernape
>some Lucario sets