Movepool additions for old Pokemon

Johto

Typhlosion - Burn Up
Furret - Coil
Noctowl - Moonblast
Ariados - Toxic Thread
Pichu - Electric Terrain
Bellossom - Quiver Dance
Sudowoodo - Head Smash & Tearful Look
Dunsparce - Air Slash & Dragon Rush
Sneasel - Throat Chop
Corsola - Liquidation
Delibird - Drill Peck
Mantine - Roost
Suicune - Sheer Cold

>>29768091
Reposting:

>Jump Kick Dodrio

I don't think people realize just how fucking great this is.

Firstly, Dodrio just got a Speed Buff. +10, so he's sitting happily at 110 Speed.

Secondly, Jump Kick isn't your old Jump Kick from RBY. It's 100 BP, 95% Acc now.

So basically...

Adamant / Jolly Dodrio @ Choice Band / Life Orb
>Brave Bird
>Jump Kick
>Knock Off
>Steel Wing

Just the first 3 moves give it nearly unresisted type coverage (fuck Dedenne). Steel Wing lets it fuck over ALL Fairies pretty fucking hard.

Basically, Dodrio just got pretty fucking useful and is going to end up in UU at the very least.

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>>29768091
>Gyarados - Hurricane
It makes sense lorewise, but sadly it will never ever be used in anyway.

>>29768102
Whats throat chop do

>>29768167
Dark attack that with around 80 or 90 power. Prevents the use of sound attacks.

>>29768167

Dark type
80 Power
Opposing Pokemon is unable to use sound-based moves for two turns

>>29768167
Fuck yo sound moves.

>>29768190
>>29768197
>>29768199
That sound prevention is fucking stupid. It should be a stronger fake out

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>>29768102

Dunsparce confirmed for Dragon/Flying evolution in future.

>>29768102
Looks like they're making Coil and Quiver Dance less specific to only certain animals.

I do enjoy the tears of people who were praying for ampharos to get firefly light.

Hoenn
Swellow - Hurricane
Surskit - Lunge
Carvanha - Psychic Fangs
Wailord - Noble Roar
Seviper - Swords Dance
Solrock - Flare Blitz

>>29768690

That's not complete because Flygon has Dragon Dance

>>29768102
>Mantine - Roost

ABOUT
FUCKING
TIME
nigga should have got it 3 gens ago with skarmory

>>29768091
>rapidash didn't get high horsepower
I'm kind of pissed, actually

>>29768777
It's not high enough.

What does
Psychic fang
Tearfull look
Stomping tantrum
Do?

>>29768141
What can Dodrio KO with Steel Wing?

>>29768706
Does Fug get Hurricane now?

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Off-topic, but do the terrain moves overwrite each other? For example, Can you have grass terrain and misty terrain at the same time?

I haven't played since gen 5 and the online battling scene seems like it's going to be a lot of fun.

>>29768809
>a literal blazing horse
When you blaze that much you gotta be high all the time. Although I see why Mudsdale and Snorlax get it, what with the dreads and the sleeping all the time

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>>29768828
List of new moves is here.

paste.ee/r/mvJ70

>>29768931
No, but you can have a Weather and a Terrain i.e. Sunny Day and Grassy Terrain

Hoenn

Swellow - Hurricane
Surskit - Lunge
Carvanha - Psychic Fangs
Wailord - Noble Roar
Flygon - Dragon Dance
Seviper - Swords Dance
Lunatone - Power Gem
Solrock - Flare Blitz

Sinnoh

Bibarel - Swords Dance & Aqua Jet
Wormadam - Quiver Dance & Bug Buzz
Mothim - Lunge
Ambipom - Dual Chop
Skuntank - Sucker Punch (naturally)
Lucario - Laser Focus
Froslass - Will-O-Wisp

>>29768967
It's so high it can't function, thus get the power.

>>29769062
>Simple Swords Dance Bibarel
>with all that STAB priority

oh shit, prepare your anus

>>29769062
Bibarel gets +4 with one SD

It might actually be good now

>>29769062

What's lunge?

>>29769062
>Bibarel
>Aqua Jet
YES YES YES
>Endure Weakness Policy Aqua Jet
Fucking brilliant.

>>29769062
What about unova and kalos?

>>29768847
OHKOs Mega Diancie and at worst speed ties if Jolly. Steel Wing 2HKOs Clefable even with max HP/Defense. Klefki is 2HKO'd by Jump Kick because of having a Steel typing itself.

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>>29768091
>All this buffing of shitmons
that's best thing about this gen so far and how bug types are getting buffs

>>29769062
>will-o Froslass
FINALLY

>>29768102
>Suicune - Sheer Cold
suicune already had access to sheer cold

Unova

Watchog - Nasty Plot
Lillipup - Psychic Fangs
Musharna - Psychic Terrain
Throh - Mat Block
Basculin - Head Smash
Krookodile - Power Trip
Tirtouga - Liquidation
Emolga - Speed Swap
Klinklang - Gear Up
Beheeyem - Psychic Terrain
Golurk - High Horsepower & Stomping Tantrum
Heatmor - Fire Lash

>>29769623
Through events. It's never been something it can naturally learn.

>>29769623
that's event-only tho

>>29769062
>Froslass - Will-O-Wisp
nice

>no move tutors

fug

im hoping for move tutors to teach moves like refresh and softboiled

Primeape Dynamic Punch/Stomping Tantrum combo sounds silly.

is there a link for the new moves?

>>29769732
Never in the first games.

>>29768141
You are retarded. It can't even beat Klefki.

Do we know buffs/nerfs for Pokémon that aren't in SM? I'm guessing yes but I don't know the regional Dex at all

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>no new moves
>no buffs
>still shit

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does high horsepower do anything other than be a worse earthquake?

>>29769062
>Bibarel - Swords Dance & Aqua Jet

Jesus christ, we're witnessing the new Azumarill.

>>29769794
stops you hitting your ally in doubles.

>>29769794
Keep in mind EQ is nerfed in the sense that Grassy Terrain can see more action now a la Tapu Bulu.

>High Horsepower
>Animation is literally a horseshoe
>Snorlax
>Golurk

Why?

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>>29769858
>>29769835

EQ is going to be shit in doubles now that Gengar lost Levitate.

>>29769873
same reason they only touched at most like 10 pokemon each gen and ignored the rest of them
and i do mean didnt touch, absolutely ZERO changed for a large majority of existing pokemon
gen 6.5 fags were completely right

Kalos
Litleo - Flare Blitz
Pancham - Power Trip
Pangoro - Bullet Punch

Kalos

Litleo - Flare Blitz
Pancham - Power Trip
Pangoro - Bullet Punch

>>29769670
>rapidash the horse doesnt get high horsepower
>golurk does

FUCKING LEL

>>29768091
>Spotlight
This is strange. The German name of Follow Me is already Spotlight. I wonder how they will name Spotlight in German, maybe Rampenlicht (literal translation)?

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>boost in Sp Atk
>now gets Hurricane
>already has Boomburst amazing speed

Will Choice Specs Swellow become a thing?

>>29769670
what do golurks moves do?

>Tyrunt doesn't get stomping tantrum
WHY

>>29770119
Scheinwerfer is also already used for Luster Purge. So probably Rampenlicht would be the best translation.

>>29769062
>Flygon - Dragon Dance
FINALLY!!!

>>29770131
choice specs swellow has been a thing since it got boomburst, it does decent damage and lures in things that expect physical sets i.e. steelix

>>29769062
>Flygon - Dragon Dance
Never ever

>>29768761
>Mantine
Yes, this will be the new Blissey

>>29770210
to OU we go

>Psychic Fangs Carvanha
Do you not realize how great this is?
Now Mega Sharpedo can go through its greatest counter, Keldeo

>>29768102
That burn up though

>>29770310
it already had zen headbutt

>>29770233
Yeah but now thanks to Hurrican and more Special Attack it gets more coverage and more power.

The elemental monkeys now get Frenzy Plant, Blast Burn, and Hydro Cannon

>>29769742
What does Stomping Tantrum do?

>>29770038
Power Trip?

>>29770362
Doesnt OHKO Keldeo though, Psychic Fangs definitely gets Strong Jaw boost

>>29769765
Klefki is OU though anon said it would be used on UU

>>29770394
75 base power Ground type move, doubles in base power if the user's last move failed.
I hope misses also count.

Diancie gets Power Gem

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>Flareon doesn't get Flame Lash

>>29770394
Power Trip is a physical Dark version of Stored Power.

>>29770400
Mega, sharp could make it to OU then after a protect the things is going to be covered on all sides

>>29768761
>>29770267

PT: 111.7608
ST: 217.6759
PS: 58.2824
SS: 108.9560

These values are pretty good, compared to poor Blissey

PT: 66.2230
ST: 460.8706
PS: 23.8315
SS: 89.5789

>>29770452
what about my boy aurorus?

>>29769579
Name a single shitmon whose buffs make it not a shitmon. And no Dugtrio and dodrio were never shitmons.

>>29770561
Mantine

>aerodactyl STILL doesn't get head smash

>>29769886
You do realize that Gengar now absorbs Toxic Spikes, right?

>>29770575
Sorry mantine is still a shitmon roost or not.

>>29770561
Bibarel

>>29769062
Wait what's Lunge

>>29770546
never ever sadly

>>29770448
>>29770495
Thanks

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>>29770633
>toxic spikes
wow what a great trade off

>>29770633
>absorbing the least common entry hazard is better than turning an EQ weakness into an EQ immunity

keep trying gengarfag

>>29770638
maybe, maybe not with its incoming base HP buff

>>29770695
80 BP Bug move

>>29770695
80 power physical bug move lowers targets attack

What's Mewtwo's new move?

>>29769574
Blatant lie.
252+ Atk Choice Band Dodrio Jump Kick vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Klefki: 122-144 (38.3 - 45.2%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery

Plus any diancie with a +speed nature will fuck it up, its not strong enough to run jolly.

>>29768091
Butterfree at last gets some decent flying stab, thanks god

>>29770914
laser focus
guarantees 1(ONE) critical hit
basically they found a way to make lock on worse
i dont know how they got it into their heads that people actually ever use defensive boosting moves but a lot of things seem to be designed around this huge misinterpretation of every meta since gen 3
its like i went back in time and suddenly someone is trying to fix curselax in the worst possible ways

>>29770633
>Toxic Spikes
>In doubles

kek

Sticky Web's about the only entry hazard used in doubles, and Gengar's going to fucking hate being affected by that

>>29770921
>252+ Def Klefki

Absolutely fucking NO ONE uses Def+ or 252 Def Klefki.

Burn Up is going to be fucking stupid on Arcanine, he'll get STAB Extremespeed after using it.

>>29771581
Arcanine will see a lot of use in doubles. Intimidate, Burn Up, ESpeed, WoW, Morning Sun, etc etc.

>>29770038
>>29770039
>tfw three days ago I told an Anon that Pangoro should get Bullet Punch instead of Sucker Punch

>>29769670
the fuck is gear up?

>>29771842
Gamefreak trying to push Plus/Minus, despite them being shit abilities

It raises the attack and special attack of allies (and I'm assuming the user) that have plus/minus. Basically the offensive version of Magnetic Flux

>>29769670
>head smash basculin
Neat

>>29771957
yeah its the fucking shitmon fish that needed it and not aerodactyl or the rhydon line or literally anything else that could actually use it
fuck the fish, fuck sudowoodo, fuck gamefreak
im mad

>>29768091
>Pangoro learning bullet punch

That's nice but can a nigga buy a STAB sucker punch? Would he be so broken with a STAB priority.

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>Nothing for Poliwhirl
>Nothing for Aurorus. NOT EVEN AURORA VEIL

>>29768141
It's not going to go beyond RU, if that
Still a shitty Staraptor

>>29769062
WoW Froslass might be cool

Also
>Dragon Dance

>>29768102
>furret
>coil
neat

>>29768102
>Furret - Coil

Furret best snek

>>29772683
Since it's not in the Dex, I'm not that surprised. It's chances are better in the next game.

>>29768690
>Wailord
>Noble Roar
>Roar
What?

>>29768239
>Sound prevention is stupid
It literally shuts down Mega Gardevoirs best attack

did someone do this manually
http://pastebin.com/WTn4204t

>>29772786
Are all those mons listed in the dex?

>>29772805
Whales are known to sing, I guess?

>>29770561
Flygon

>>29772822
should i do one for tms, i didn't because tms can't be directly compared

DROWZEE AND HYPNO STILL CANT NATURALLY LEARN DREAM EATER

I repeat

DROWZEE AND HYPNO STILL CANT NATURALLY LEARN DREAM EATER

Just got off work and I haven't been online all day. Can someone link me to what these moves actually do? I get on /vp/ and everyone's jizzing themselves over Burnup.

>>29772880
y tho

>>29768690
>Seviper - Swords Dance

Hm...shame sucker punch is locked behind a gen 4 tutor.

Ariados gets Swords Dance

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>>29768091
>Gyarados got Hurricane
>Zapdos still has to use Air Cutter, cant even get fucking Air Slash

>>29769062
>No Garchomp DD

Fug

>>29772920
He already had that I'm pretty sure. Still can't use it. Shit defenses and 40 speed.

>>29772822
>http://pastebin.com/WTn4204t
So wait, only doduo gets jump kick? All my old 5IV dodrios are worthless? :(

>>29773200
no, i fucked up and forgot to remove the -(!) things the leaker added so dodrio wasn't included in the list
i'll go fix it

http://pastebin.com/zyLkAFbs
there i fixed it, thank for the catch

>>29773293
also i noticed hoenn starters are goofed because the data from ORAS came from the demo, where all the level up shit was scraped

>>29773293
oh thank god. thanks, anon!

What does Spotlight do?

>>29772865
http://pastebin.com/4Tg2N5Tf
compiled TM changes too
let me know if you see anything wrong

>>29769791
Ledian got Air Slash.

Lunatone got Power Gem.

Can someone tell me what High Horsepower does

Google didn't tell me any details

>>29774633
95 BP/acc Ground move. The fucking donkey learns it by level a few levels before learning Earthquake.

Is there any infodump on the new moves anywhere?

>>29774834
https://paste. ee/r/mvJ70
remove spaces between paste. and ee

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>>29774876
Thanks anon, here's a qt for you.

>>29775061
>best girl
Thanks very much anon.

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>>29768102
>Mankey - Power Trip
>Primeape - Stomping Tantrum

Someone pls
What do these attacks do for my boi

>>29775139
Power Trip is physical Dark Stored Power.
Stomping Tantrum is a 75 power Ground move that doubles in power if the user's previous attack failed.

>>29775139
Power Trip Read the fucking thread
Stomping Tantrum or just ctrl+f and search for http

>>29768102
>Furret - Coil
Oh. Shit. My bro's gonna wreck some shit.

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>give Suicune Sheer Cold cancer back
>but Raikou/Entei don't get any of their old event moves back
alright, who's the fag at GF with Suicune as their favourite

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>>29768690
>Solrock - Flare Blitz
WHY AREN'T YOU A REGIONAL POKEMON?

>>29775226
(you)

>they nerfed Sucker Punch
I mean it's just 10 points, but goddamn.

>>29775363
And Extreme Speed didn't budge! What the fuck. My man Bisharp is a little less of a man now.

I can't seem to find the thread for the new moves' effects.

>>29775363
80bp priority move is a bit too good especially when you have things like Kangaskhan and Mawile running around with it

It didn't need to the nerf but it's more balanced

So Toxic Thread is a 100% accuracy Toxic that lower's the enemy speed on top of that?
I like it.

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>>29769062
>Carvanha - Psychic Fangs
Strong Jaw boosted Psychic type attack
>Flygon - Dragon Dance
Finally
>Bibarel - Swords Dance & Aqua Jet
Simple Swords Dance. It's all fucking over now.

>>29772118
>he hates sudowoodo

I hope your bro never gets buffed

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>Alolan Raichu doesn't learn Surf

>>29775479
Toxic already never missed when used by a Poison type anyway

>>29775816
he means it should be like 80% because of the second effect

What the fuck does Noble Roar do?

>>29775479
Does it badly poison or just poison?

>>29775871
Lowers both attack stats, it's not new though

>>29768102
QUIVER DANCE BELLOSSOM?

Sucks that Vileplume didn't get some sort of move also but quiver dance is a game changer for sure.

>>29771581
What is Burn Up anyways?

>>29770073
it's a robot.

>>29776004
130 fire move, after using, you stop being fire type, i guess either trades for normal type or removes it completely, and if mono-type then turns you into normal

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>>29770462
F-fuck you.

>>29768141
>steel wing
way to be redundant
slap return or even fucking facade
pursuit and quick attack are also worthy

>>29776004
130 BP Fire SpA move that removes the user's fire type after use. Arcanine is pure Fire so presumably it would turn normal, giving it STAB ESpeed. Arcanine already uses Overheat in doubles so this seems like a relly good option.

>>29776145
>Arcanine uses Burn up and turns into a normal type
>Trick or Treat ghost typing to it
>Normal/Ghost Arcanine

>>29776183
For what purpose
Marshadow?

>>29770249
and is STILL shit for OU standards because it needed it at least 3 gens ago to be OU

>>29770561
>dugtrio and dodrio were never shitmons
>dodrio
>not a shitmon
ebin meme

>>29775344
fuck off reddit
he's right

>>29768141
Don't forget swords dance, I'm betting this will get up to RU for sure

>>29775657
How could they fuck up this badly

>>29776135
Mega Diancie anon.

>>29776212
because normal/ghost is a godly typing

>>29768777
ME TOO! So annoying :/

>>29777189
Normal/Ghost is only a godly typing for switching in with it's 3 immunities.

Once you're actually out, it does very little since only Fighting is really that common. It's a FANTASTIC Pivot Typing, but it's a lackluster Defensive Typing.

Offensively, it's ok - nearly unresisted which is nice (Except T-Tar and Bisharp), but it only hits two (uncommon) types for SE damage, which is pretty poor.

On top of that, Arcanine doesn't get any ghost moves.

>>29777227
Good news though, you can use Soak on your now-Normal Arcanine and get the Water type dog everyone wanted!

Did Masquerain happen to get buffed at all besides learning Lunge as Surskit?
I just want best bug to get something.

>>29777273
Stats up

>>29777273
Can't find image but it said it got +40 BST
70/60/62/100*/82/80* (20 to SpAtk/Speed)

>>29777273
+40 BST.
...I think. Might be misremembering.

>>29775518
Stop being such a prick and post it already.

>>29768091
tearful look?

Multiple people said that Gale Wings got nerfed and that it is possible to get Zygarde Complete after collecting all the cores and cells, though I'd love to get both of these claims either confirmed or debunked

Zygarde Complete is a mess, GF raped its speed stat, barely increased sp atk and HP was the only thing that got increased heavily. To add more insult to injury, Core Enforcer is a fucking special attack move rip

ty in advance

What happened to unaware?

>>29777332
That it is possible to get Complete forme as a permanent pokemon and not a shit tier gimmick with a lame in battle transformation*

>>29777334

Only works when the Pokemon with it attacks.

>>29777297
>>29777312
>>29777318
Ah, thank you!
I kind of screamed a little, Masquerain's been a favourite of mine and just knowing that it has been buffed even a little has made me really fucking happy.
Thank you Gamefreak for giving it even the smallest sliver of a chance.

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>>29777273
>>29777312
>>29777318

She got buffed 100 Sp. Atk and 80 Spd.

She'll actually be usable in PU, which is about all that anyone could ask for.

>>29768197
Basically it's a big FUCK YOU M-GARDEVOIR from Weavile.

>>29770561
Peiper is only weather stter with u-turn, it has reliable recovery, hurricane 100% accuracy for bulky grass

>>29777416
Pelliper*

>>29768091

what does Burn Up do?

and for that matter, Flame Lash?

Aerodactyl with Head Smash and Brave Bird when?
Delphox with Thunderbolt when?
Literally the only additional moves I want.

>>29777467
Burn Up is a 130(?) BP fire attack that removes fire type from opponent (Changes mono-fire to Normal)

Flame Lash is fire attack that reduces target's defense (Heatmor exclusive).

>>29777589
>Heatmor gets an exclusive move now
who would have thought

>>29777589

Does the Pokémon stay that way or do they change back like with Roost?

>>29774118
Cubchoo
Draco-Meteor new TM/Tutor move!

>>29775928
It gets Growth and can be a decent sun sweeper now