WE DID IT

>>29750754
Source please

Really?

>>29750754
Source: your ass

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>>29750754
GUESS WHO ELSE GOT DD?

FLYGON STILL KEKED

https://projectpokemon.org/research/sunmoon/learnsets.txt


HOLY SHIT IT'S TRUE

FINALLY

GARCHOMP BTFO

WE MADE IT BROS

>>29750846
Nice try

>>29750871
See >>29750846

>>29750797
>>29750817
>>29750845
https://twitter.com/KazoWAR/status/796015665148809216
Check Flygon

BELLOSSOM GETS QUIVER DANCE

>>29750845
fuck you

>>29750754
NANI???????????

>>29750897
Garchomp doesnt get Dragon Dance

>>29750897
That's false though.

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>Escavalier doesn't get Leech Life

IT'S NOT FAIR

>>29750909
holy shit lilligant BTFO

What the fuck is smart strike

>>29750853
Shieeett!

>>29750754
WE DID IT REDDIT

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>>29750754
best dog got laser focus

>>29750754

>finally got Dragon Dance

Well, what will be the optimum build then?

WE DID IT REDDIT

>>29750754
>finally Dragon Dance
This day......my baby Gigalith became viable and now Flygon to. This is amazing.

>>29750853
No fucking way, it can't be fucking right. There's no way that's possible. The leaker must have faked that part, there's no way it's right. Gamefreak wouldn't betray Garchomp and Garchomp's fanbase like that, would they?

>>29750909
Wormadam does too

>>29751185
Look at what they did to Gengar, ask yourself that again.

>>29750976
Escavalier is already a beast with Megahorn, he doesn't need Leech Life.

mantine gets roost! and it get +20 HP too! we made it!

>literally only the garbage ice types got aurora veil

Pretty nice, they have a use now.

>>29751142
Speed, Attack and Dragon Dance.

>>29751239
False, Mantine wasn't altered in any way.

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Gardevoir got nothing,

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>>29750909
>quiver dance dazzling gleam
Oh COME ON. First Tsareena's badass movepool and now THIS?

>>29751185
Man, they fucking nerfed Gengar and the legendary beasts, while making every other pokemon slow and dicks and LOSE speed

GameFreak betrayed us the day the posted Margearna on corocoro

>>29751326
no it's true retard. check the links.

>>29751142
adamant: DD/Earthquake/Outrage/Iron head-thunderpunch-fire punch-superpower-stone edge

>>29751360
>implying Gardevoir needed anything

>>29751360
So?
Gardevoir doesn't need a buff.

>Pangoro gets Bullet Punch

It's not incredible but it's something at least.

>>29751142
Dragon claw
fire blast
earth quake
Dragon dance

>>29751411
>>29751408
Too slow and fragile, it needs quiver dance!

>>29750853
scizor doen't get leech life ;__;

WHERE'S THE PORN WITH FLYGON AS THE TOP?

>>29750907
>Typhlosion
>New move: Burn Up
>To inflict massive damage, the user burns itself out.\nAfter using this move, the user will no longer be Fire type.

What happens to its typing?

>>29751440
Hello Salamence, how are you today?

>>29750846
Honestly, it's annoying that they didn't give Garchomp Dragon Dance as well. Flygon is just a butterfly that think it's a dragon, it's not more deserving of Dragon Dance than Garchomp. It's not fair at all.

>>29751487
That sounds really interesting

>>29751448
Fucking retard.

>>29751508
Flygon needed a boost to SPAtk and quiver dance

>>29751508
Garchomp is already strong while Flygon only had scarf U-turn speaking for it. Garchomp doesn't need shit.

>Aurora Veil Regice
Worry.jpg

>>29751487
>only Arcanine, Typhlosion and Moltres get it

Why does Typhlosion keep getting these weird rare moves?

>>29751535
You're mom dude.

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>Golurk
>High Horsepower
>Stomping Tantrum
what

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Still an inferior Zygarde, and I'm not even talking about the beefy version.

It might reclaim UU.

>>29751265
Yeah, but Aurora veil only works in the hail.

>>29751597
If its this rare, it should be pretty strong r-right.

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>>29750907
>Dark Void 50% accurate now
Smeargle BTFO?

>>29751185
Garchomp is still better famalam as it now serves a different niche

>>29751712
Smeargle doesn't have access to Dark Void anymore.

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>>29751712
Smeargle can't even use it anymore, so yes.

>>29751535
He's right tho.

>>29751496
its what he was meant to be called

>Bellsprout and Yanma can learn Leech Life as an Egg Move
>TM Leech Life doesn't work on either one
>Yanmega can learn it through TM, but Weepinbell and Victrebel can't
I don't get it

Also, the only old Pokemon that can learn Leech Life are the ones that could learn it regardless (except Mew, obviously). Alolan Sandshrew can also learn it, but normal Sandshrew can't.

>>29751701
Fire
Special
130 Power
100% Accuracy
5 PP
Adjacent Pokémon
User loses Fire type

>>29751747
>>29751752
Only in VGC

>>29751597
Because it has nothing else going for it.

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did shuckle get anything new

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>>29751785
that's the fucking point
what kind of tournaments do you go to Smogon?
Oh wait

>>29751754
>100 speed
>135 sp. def.
>excellent ability, offense stats and moves
>top tier in OU, Doubles, common as fuck in Battle Spot and tournaments
Gardevoir wouldn't be able to set up anyway, that's not what it's designed for.
Please see >>29751535

>>29751795
The only good set it has is Scarved Explosion,and even then,it's not all that good.

>>29751896
VGC is a fake meta for cucks

>>29751763
And then it turns to the Normal type? If thats the case, Arcanine can now fire off stab Extreme Speeds.

>>29751757
yeah they gave absolutely nothing that could use leech life access to it
its literally all special attackers and non-bug types
its gen iv drain punch all over again

>>29751969
wow, great

>>29751910
You could've just pointed out it can't dance.

flygon still isnt THAT good. lets not get carried away here.

Pikachu in hats have really weird new movesets guys
I wonder if they have new stats?

>>29751969
Whatever, Arcanine is only useful as a WoW spammer in doubles.

>>29752009
Of course not, but it's something.

>>29752019
now incineroar is

>>29752009
BST is literally Glalie +40
It might get out the dregs of RU but it's still bad.

>>29751969
Fucking cunt Pokemon god damn it

>>29752009
It has a niche now.

Diancie actually gets Power Gem now.

>>29751910
>100 speed
>good

Are you from Alola or something?

>>29752054
Does he get Intimidate?

>>29752092
DELETE THIS

>>29752110
yes

>>29752009
it will be UU now

Does Flygon still have Levitate as its only ability?

>>29752092
Good enough to make it top tier everywhere.

>>29752110
hes pretty much Bulky arcanine 2.0 now
but he gets stab snarl and gets fake out
its just missing morning sun

>>29752152
yes

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>>29750754
>Perfection

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pokemon that get laser focus
Mewtwo,Lucario,marshadow and kartana (Ultra beast)

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WE /POWER GEM/

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>snealse gets throat chop from Incineroar
get ready for the porn

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>>29752125
>>29752179
Not bad actually. I'm a bulky Arcanine user myself and Fake Out sounds like a really nice treat for that kind of set.

>>29751239
I know Anon! Best manta ray finally got some attention.

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>>29751969

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>>29751960

>>29751239
Oh fuck
I CANNOT wait to see the new tier changes

Most starter get Work Up!
Time to boost!
Especially Greninja, MegaCharizardY and MegaSceptile

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It's a good day to be a Flygonfag

>>29752436
Its competition is Pelipper who got Drizzle, m8. Mantine fell into a grave and accidentally got fucking buried.

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Fire Lash
The user strikes the target with a burning lash. This\nalso lowers the target’s Defense stat.
Fire
Physical
80 Power
100% Accuracy
15 PP
Adjacent Pokémon
-1 Defense for the target

>Can only be learnt by Heatmor (lv 44)

GUYS, USE ME

>>29752628
You know a U-Turn weather starter has serious support potential

>>29751326
lelling at you

>Ice Hammer, Dragon Hammer and Zing Zap are signature moves
dammit

>>29752628
Wait what the FUCK
What the fuck is going on this gen I love it

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>>29752640

>>29752732
Pelipper gets Drizzle.
Torkoal gets Drought.
Gigalith gets Sandstorm.
Vanilluxe gets Snow Warning.

These are the new weather enablers.

>stomping tantrum

new primeape/mankey signature???

My bros Rampardos and Heliolisk learning any new move?

>Accelerock
>The user smashes into the target at high speed. This move always goes first.
>Rock
TALONFLAME ON SUICIDE WATCH

>>29751757
Fucking Beedrill can't even learn it

>>29752082
Also Lunatone

Alolan Golem's hidden ability now converts normal move to Electric type with a 30% boost.

>>29750853
>Komala cant get Rest via TM
wat

>>29752628
>using Pelipper when Politoed exists

literally why

>>29752860
We already knew this, faggot

>Silvally got Parting shot
>Only him and the faggot Alolan cats
Fucking why, Mega Banette would've loved that shit

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HOLD UP

AZUMARILL DOESN'T GET BELLY DRUM OR AQUA JET ANYMORE

>>29752841
A ninetails also has snow warning.

>>29752914
I can taste your tears.

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>>29752930

>>29751487
TYPE: NULL

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>>29752860
>>29752940
hello anon welcome to november 2016

>>29752908
Pelipper gets access to U-Turn and Hurricane as well as Roost
It can lead as well as hit pretty hard with its new Sp. Atk boost and still decently bulky
It's arguably a better setter than Politoed

>>29752930
But it gets Z Splash

>>29752908
water flying is arguably better typing
>le joltik used thunder shock

it also gets roost
stab hydro pump and hurricane in the rain is pretty good too

i doubt it gets defog but it be nice

>>29752930
Egg moves?

>>29751487
pretty sure its normal (like roost)

>>29753087
nope

Wanted to see if Alolan Raichu would get Volt Tackle but I couldn't even find the move, the fuck?

Air Slash Butterfree
Focus Energy Fearow
Alola Sandslash special attack just 25
Alola Ninetails with Snow Warning and 109 speed
Aurora Veil is aTM
Jump Kick Dodrio

>>29753087
== Marill ==

Start - Tackle
Start - Water Gun
L2 - Tail Whip
L5 - Water Sport
L7 - Bubble
L10 - Defense Curl
L10 - Rollout
L13 - Bubble Beam
L16 - Helping Hand
L20 - Aqua Tail
L23 - Play Rough
L28 - Aqua Ring
L31 - Rain Dance
L37 - Double-Edge
L40 - Superpower
L47 - Hydro Pump
TM01 - Work Up
TM06 - Toxic
TM07 - Hail
TM10 - Hidden Power
TM13 - Ice Beam
TM14 - Blizzard
TM16 - Light Screen
TM17 - Protect
TM18 - Rain Dance
TM21 - Frustration
TM27 - Return
TM31 - Brick Break
TM32 - Double Team
TM42 - Facade
TM44 - Rest
TM45 - Attract
TM48 - Round
TM55 - Scald
TM56 - Fling
TM86 - Grass Knot
TM87 - Swagger
TM88 - Sleep Talk
TM90 - Substitute
TM94 - Surf
TM98 - Waterfall
TM100 - Confide
Egg - Encore
Egg - Sing
Egg - Refresh
Egg - Slam
Egg - Tickle
Egg - Fake Tears
Egg - Body Slam
Egg - Water Sport
Egg - Soak
Egg - Muddy Water
Egg - Copycat
Egg - Camouflage

>>29753087
They've been removed.

>>29752930

not true it's still in Marill's egg learnset

>new pokemon with defog via level up/egg move
>tapu fini
>decidueye line
>Lurantis
>an Ultra beast

>>29753140
GOOD AQUA DRUM !
Now the only way to get it is via Bank from pre Gen 7.

Which pokemon gets the ability galvanize?

>>29753170
Look again

>>29753032
>water flying is arguably better typing

Maybe if it had the same bulk as Mantine does, but it can't take an electric attack for shit.

>>29752991
>Pelipper gets access to U-Turn
>implying it gets to go first with 65 speed

Still don't see why not just stick with Politoed instead, with access to Hypnosis/Encore/Perish Song, ChestoResto being somewhat viable or just slap a specs and surprise people with its SpA.

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>>29751176
Thank you anon.

>>29751785
No. Dark Void is one of those uncopyable moves now.

>>29753229
alola Golem
>>29753216
its probably a mistake only time they removed a move from a pokemon was nincada line
prepare to see it in next game

>>29753216
implying they couldn't do this to you
>this pokemon has an illegal move!
>removing now...

>>29753229

also tangling hair, and power of alchemy I don't know goes to who

>>29751969
pretty sure it will regain its fire type on its next attack (same happens with roost)

>>29752930
Don't think Smogon cares. I mean, they still think Wish Chansey is justifiable despite it being a gen 3 event.

>>29753251
>Still don't see why not just stick with Politoed instead
The benefit is that your slow U-Turn can bring in a better Pokemon, safely. Also it helps to have STAB Hurricane and recovery

>>29753286
Power of Alchemy is Alolan Muk's.

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Porygon family seemingly received nothing but if >>29750933 is true, we get a Z-Conversion boosts all stats by +1!

>>29753325
also tail wind

>>29753251
>Still don't see why not just stick with Politoed instead, with access to Hypnosis/Encore/Perish Song, ChestoResto being somewhat viable or just slap a specs and surprise people with its SpA.

Pelliper gets hurricane, defog, and roost. I would still say politoed is better, but Pelliper could have its advantages

>Heliolisk learn Brutal Swing
wew, only one new attack?...

Worst is nothing, Only wait for used TOPu KEKo and Heliolisk in doubles

>>29753388

It also gets tailwind and wide guard, if you were doing doubles and primal kyogre was banned

>>29753286
Tangling Hair is alolan Diglett/dugtrio

>>29753286
tangling hair goes to alolan diglett/dugtrio

>>29753441
>no arena trap

Shit

>>29753466
regular got a 20+ bst to attack

>>29752628
>https://twitter.com/KazoWAR/status/796015665148809216
Drizzle and Hurricane is a nice combination

Are Hi Jump Kick and Flare Blitz unchanged? Wondering if Blaziken got any stealth-nerf.

>>29753388
I don't think one of them would necessarily outclass the other, I see it as a nice companion or second option. Sort of like how Salamence was to Rayquaza back in the day

WHO OR WHAT GETS AUROA VEIL

OR WHATEVER THAT FUCKING DUAL SCREEN MOVE IS?

THERE IS no changes to marill drum+jet is still in the egg learn set.


Marill
- Tackle
- Water Gun
2 Tail Whip
5 Water Sport
7 Bubble
10 Defense Curl
10 Rollout
13 Bubble Beam
16 Helping Hand
20 Aqua Tail
23 Play Rough
28 Aqua Ring
31 Rain Dance
37 Double-Edge
40 Superpower
47 Hydro Pump
TM01 Work Up
TM06 Toxic
TM07 Hail
TM10 Hidden Power
TM13 Ice Beam
TM14 Blizzard
TM16 Light Screen
TM17 Protect
TM18 Rain Dance
TM21 Frustration
TM27 Return
TM31 Brick Break
TM32 Double Team
TM42 Facade
TM44 Rest
TM45 Attract
TM48 Round
TM55 Scald
TM56 Fling
TM86 Grass Knot
TM87 Swagger
TM88 Sleep Talk
TM90 Substitute
TM94 Surf
TM98 Waterfall
TM100 Confide
Egg Present
Egg Amnesia
Egg Future Sight
Egg Belly Drum
Egg Perish Song
Egg Supersonic
Egg Aqua Jet
Egg Superpower
Egg Refresh
Egg Body Slam
Egg Water Sport
Egg Muddy Water
Egg Camouflage

>>29753549
a bunch of ice types

it only works under hail

>>29752628
Pelipper won't be used over Toed.

>>29750754
>Flareon Flare Blitz (Check)
>Flygon Dragon Dance (Check)
>Typhlosion Earth Power Unchecked but here have this move that removes your own fucking STAB and is already weaker than moves at your disposal
t-thanks Game Freak

>>29753549
Every ice type
Only can be set up in hail
Only alola ninetales Aurorus Vanilite and Abomasnow can use it effectively

>>29753563
Link what you're looking at, that's not what I see

>>29753563
Bellyjet is nothing but an even shittier meme now that Z-Splash exists

>>29753549
Sandshrew, Sandslash, Vulpix, Ninetails, Jynx, Articuno, Delibird, Regice, Glaceon, Froslass, and Cryogonal are the only ones that can learn Aurora Veil. Needs to be setup in Hail.

>>29753638
https://paste. ee/r/zYMUr
remove spaces between paste. and ee

>>29750907
>>29753638

https://twitter.com/KazoWAR/status/796015665148809216

this is one of the dataminers

Well fuck, and I just made a Smeargle for doubles a few weeks ago.

>>29751712
Things just keep getting better and better.
Is it my birthday or something?

>>29753760
>>29753776
God damn what is this then >>29750853

>>29753819

faked or incomplete of the real data.

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Krookodile gets a signature move, Power Trip. Dark type Stored Power. Can be bred onto Mankay and Pancham.

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>Diamond Storm (!)
>50% chance for +2 Defense for the user

WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS

>nothing for Ledian
I HURT MYSELF TODAY

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>>29750754
>Garchomp is still better

>>29752640
Wew

With all the speed nerfs, can I actually use this guy now...?

>>29753882
Diancie's signature move

Starmie gets Grass Knot and Spotlight.
Grass Knot improves Starmie's ability to revenge kill threats to your team, but that's already a niche set for Starmie who's mostly used for its defensive Rapid Spin + Recover set.

>Spotlight
>The user shines a spotlight on the target so that\nonly the target will be attacked during the turn.
>Adjacent Pokémon
>3 Priority
So a different kind of Follow Me/Rage Powder.
Only Clefable/Spinda/Starmie/Morelull lines get it.
Doubles-only, Starmie is trash in Doubles.

>>29753338
>Conversion, Happy Hour, Celebrate and Hold Hands' Z-move give +1 boost to all stats
>fucking Rayquaza gets Celebrate
Mega Fug with +1 in all stats

>>29754025
I know what the move is, but it now doubles your defense. Holy fuck. That's insane.

Silvally gets Parting Shot

>>29754042

not gonna happen because they actually added a line of code that forces rayquaza to pick if it wants to mega evolve or use a z-move i can't do both.

>>29753128
>https://projectpokemon.org/research/sunmoon/learnsets.txt
>jump kick dodrio

I JUST CAME

>>29754035
Starmie already has Grass Knot.

>>29753845
Wait so Flygon doesn't get DD or ?

>>29754088
Alolan Meowth/Persian get Parting Shot as well.

>>29754231
You're right, my bad.

>>29751487
>>29751597
Presumably they would change to normal type, right?

>Arcanine used Burn Up
>Arcanine changed to normal type
>Arcanine used Extreme Speed

>Ariados and Heatmor get signature moves
We're in some alternate dimension right now

>>29753980
>ariados gets a signature move on top of getting a good move last gen and a stat boost
>ledian gets air slash

And this is cucking even further beyond.

>Weathersetters have more options now (Vanilluxe/Ninetales/Torkoal/Pelipper) and Slush Rush exists for Beartic who now has Ursaring-level stats

>Minior has 100 dual offenses and 120 speed in Shields Down form and got Shell Smash

This is my good news for today. Shame about Decidueye.

>>29754334
He gets it, its part of his learnset now at lvl 1

>>29754440
Oh good I was worried a bit.

>>29754431
>Minior gets U-turn

Gen 7 mons sure get weird crap. Like a ton of them randomly getting Rapid Spin or Defog.

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>>29753880
stab stored power with moxie boosts.
hold me.

>>29754475
Like a billion things got u-turn.

>>29754538
you're a fucking retard

>>29754561
God damn it, U-turn is the most cancerous switching move. At least Volt Switch has an entire type immune to it, and Parting Shot might as well not exist.

The only way to punish U-turn is with Rocky Helmet and Iron Barbs, you can't actually prevent the move from going through.

>>29754561
I know, but I mean it's just a rock. You don't really expect that to get U-turn.

>>29754677
It's a qt speedy rock.

>Psychic Fang
>can be bred onto Sharpeedo

Holy shit the elemental monkeys get frenzy plant/hydro cannon/blast burn now

>>29754583
How so? Power Trip is the same as Stored Power, Krookodile gets STAB from it, and Krookodile can have Moxie, which with its boosts would power up Power Trip.

>>29754791
WE S TIER OU NOW

>>29754791
I feel bad for those monkeys.

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>>29754791
>the most unpopular Pokemon gets something new while your bro gets nothing

>>29754816
You'd need to kill 3 in order to do the same damage as crunch. Might as well use crunch

>>29754991
Simisear is not just regular outclassed, it's CONCEPTUALLY OUTCLASSED. How did they even fucking get away with that?

>>29755015
Nigger, you don't use Moxie to get Power Trip to do damage, you Baton Pass Speed and Defense boosts to Krookodile and then start wrecking face, with Moxie making it even more over the top

>>29755058
Gen V. Don't ask

>>29750907
The fuck? The only stat change 100% Zygarde gets is HP. And Thousand Arrows/Waves aren't in the game.

>>29750976
List doesn't show egg moves, there's still hope.

>>29755710
only the first stage lists the egg moves

>>29755710
There is no hope because it's simply not listed, not even under pre-evo.

>>29753128
they also gave dodrio swords dance

>>29750909
>Lumineon still doesn't learn Quiver Dance
BAHAHAHAHAHA

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>>29750754
Maybe some day.

>>29752903
Turns out that Comatose means that it's permanently sleeping and can't wake up, but can still act normally as if it was awake.

Essentially, it's status immunity.

>>29753251
>implying it gets to go first with 65 speed
That's the point.

>>29754991
>hotmonkaydick
>unpopular
m8

How much is the leech life buff?

Kommo-o gets dragon dance

>>29758788
It's 80 BP now

>>29753416
But parabolic charge gets buffed from 50 BP to 65 BP

>>29750754
He just needs a mega and our boy will be top dog around these parts. Just you wait.

>>29754429
How much of a stat boost did it get, i love Ariados but it sucks