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Literally my Mom's Deoxys
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>>29749282
Straight up, no question.
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>Fletchling used Peck!
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>>29749282
Yes, now it can't muck up my OU tier.
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It has no answers to a decent flying mon.
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>>29749568
>>29750585
>Nothing can outspeed it
>Not even electrode
You never got an attack in. :^)
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I'm so happy my goddess is one of the best Pokemon in the game.
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>>29749282
Give her a sash and pair her with Toppu Lel and her Psychic Terrain and you have an unstoppable killing machine.
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>>29749282
What's her typing and stats?
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We'll have to see, it's made of wet tissue paper so it absolutely can't utilize Quiver Dance, but its stats might just be high enough to nuke the game down anyways.
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>>29750911
Bug/Fighting
Beast Boost (boost best stat when it faints a Pokemon, in this case speed)
71/137/37/137/37/151
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>>29751163
Isn't this completely outclassing Deoxys-S?
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>>29749282
So why are it and Buzzwole listed with the same codename instead of UB-02 and UB-03? Are they branch evolutions of an unseen previous form?
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>>29750734
>a cockroach
ew
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>>29751224
With a better type and ability, I'd say maybe
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>>29751248
Version exclusives.
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She absorbed all the speed and made herself the fastest Pokémon.
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>>29751163

If Beast Boost is based on the actual stat instead of its base, then you just need to slap on a band or specs to get attack boosts instead.
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>>29750647
>Ninjask used Aerial Ace
GG Pheromosa
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>>29751267
Hey, not cool. My girlfriend is turkish.
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>>29751267
>One of the Ultra Beasts. It refuses to touch anything, perhaps because it senses some uncleanness in this world.

You are gross to her too
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What about Buzzwole?

It has the same base attack/defense, so I'm guessing beast boost will boost the base stat after nature/evs etc?

So could you boost buzzwole's speed enough that it gets the beast boost effect? It otherwise doesn't seem that amazing
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>inb4 u-turn
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>>29749282
>HA Speed Boost
>
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>>29749282
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRgB17vr7SQ
The video for those who haven't seen it.
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>>29751466
Buzzswole's main stat is attack, though. That's the UB gimmick: boosting their best stats with Beast Boost.
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>>29751632

But it isn't. attack is 139 and defense is 139. Unless each ultra beast is supposed to have some "signature" stat that gets assigned to them. That would also mean that gamefreak was going to finally allow for HP to be boosted.
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>>29750647
>Gale Wings
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>>29749282
Definitely. Will do calcs in a few mins to see if it has any counters in current OU at all.
>>29750585
It's got Ice Beam and high enough base SpA to hurt things weak to it even without investment. And if all else fails, just U-Turn out.
>>29751224
Deoxys-S is a glorified suicide hazard setter. Thing thing wants to simply nuke everything it can, so it's more of Deoxys-N with different typing and coverage.
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>>29749282

STOP BANNING THE GOOD BUG TYPES THAT COME ALONG, I JUST WANT A GOOD MONOTYPE BUG TEAM
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>>29751721
The ability probably just ignores HP and goes for what's highest out of the rest.
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So why doesn't Lusamine use her instead of a bunch of normal, powered-up pokemon?
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>>29751895
>Definitely. Will do calcs in a few mins to see if it has any counters in current OU at all.

anything with priority

anything that can take [bug move]/[fighting move]/ice beam.

Doesn't seem that hard
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>>29749282
>151 speed
>Mixed Attacker

Holy shit, it's a bit of a glass canon but we know how to use them.
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>>29752137
Honestly it doesn't seem like she even knows this one despite it looking and having a personality just like her. Nihilego is the one she favors too which is even weirder.
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>>29751600
What's the background music? The chord made me uneasy. UB's theme? Confirmed hax, I felt shivers. Bad shivers, not the overwhelming kind.
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>>29751721
It doesn't work with Base stats, but the in-battle ones.
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>>29752312

That's what I figured. I'm too lazy to do calcs, but do you think it could raise it's speed enough that you could get that one to raise with beast boost, or would the inability to not be able to invest in attack or defense not be worth it?
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>>29752303
https://soundcloud.com/user-769673154/bgm-nj-vs-beastdspadpcm/s-fJFVu
UB theme
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>>29751600
That UB theme, my God... the OST is amazing.
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>>29749282

This thing under Psychic Terrain is going to be a bitch to deal with.
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Using 252 Atk / 4 SpA / 252 Spe with Life Orb:
>4 SpA Life Orb Mew Ice Beam vs. 248 HP / 92 SpD Amoonguss: 239-283 (55.4 - 65.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Black Sludge recovery

>252 Atk Life Orb Mew Poison Jab vs. 172 HP / 0 Def Azumarill: 283-335 (73.6 - 87.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
>252+ Atk Choice Band Huge Power Azumarill Aqua Jet vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mew: 255-301 (90.1 - 106.3%) -- 37.5% chance to OHKO
Hard check and one-time switchin. One U-Turn puts it into PJab range.

>252 Atk Life Orb Technician Breloom Mach Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mew: 136-161 (48 - 56.8%) -- 91% chance to 2HKO
Oneshotted if not sashed.

>252 Atk Life Orb Mew High Jump Kick vs. 248 HP / 100+ Def Mega Charizard X: 218-257 (60.7 - 71.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
>252 Atk Life Orb Mew Poison Jab vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mega Charizard Y: 146-172 (49.1 - 57.9%) -- 96.5% chance to 2HKO

>252 Atk Life Orb Mew Poison Jab vs. 252 HP / 172 Def Clefable: 250-294 (63.4 - 74.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
HJK on switch puts it in PJab range.

>252 Atk Life Orb Mew High Jump Kick vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mega Diancie: 265-313 (109.9 - 129.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO

>4 SpA Life Orb Mew Ice Beam vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Multiscale Dragonite: 221-263 (68.4 - 81.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
>252+ Atk Choice Band Dragonite Extreme Speed vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mew: 314-370 (110.9 - 130.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Hard check. Can't counter with broken multiscale.

Excadrill revenge kills, but even 252+ Sand Rush variant is outsped at +1.

>4 SpA Life Orb Mew Ice Beam vs. 240 HP / 0 SpD Garchomp: 510-603 (122.3 - 144.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
>252 Atk Life Orb Mew Poison Jab vs. 16 HP / 8 Def Mega Gardevoir: 333-393 (118.5 - 139.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO
>4 SpA Life Orb Mew Ice Beam vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Gengar: 139-165 (53.6 - 63.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

>252 Atk Life Orb Mew High Jump Kick vs. 240 HP / 0 Def Mega Heracross: 127-151 (35.1 - 41.8%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
Passable counter, but U-Turn + hazards + 2HJKs = dead.

cont in next post
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>>29752223
Yeah, it really doesn't seem that hard.
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>>29751163
>151

whoever did the stats for the UBs REALLY wanted them to be good. It's actually fucking stupid comparing them to standard gen 7 pokemon
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>>29752869
Consider that the UB are the beings that can survive travel through universes. May be the peak of their evolution, the same way that legendary Pokemon are in the normal-ass worlds.
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>252 Atk Life Orb Mew High Jump Kick vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Jirachi: 286-337 (83.8 - 98.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
pebbles = dead scarfrachi

>252 Atk Life Orb Mew High Jump Kick vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Keldeo: 312-368 (96.5 - 113.9%) -- 81.3% chance to OHKO

>252 Atk Life Orb Mew High Jump Kick vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Klefki: 220-259 (69.1 - 81.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Can switch in once and scare it off with Prankster TWave. SpD Klefki = dead Klefki.

>252 Atk Life Orb Mew U-turn vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Latias: 338-400 (92.8 - 109.8%) -- 56.3% chance to OHKO

>252 Atk Mega Lopunny Fake Out vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mew: 145-172 (51.2 - 60.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
>can't even oneshot it with Fake Out

>252 Atk Life Orb Mew High Jump Kick vs. 252 HP / 240+ Def Manaphy: 208-247 (51.4 - 61.1%) -- 94.1% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

>-1 252 Atk Life Orb Mew High Jump Kick vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Mega Manectric: 230-270 (81.8 - 96%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Surprised shitdoge lives this, but pebbles = dead. It's outsped anyway.

>252 Atk Life Orb Mew Poison Jab vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Mega Medicham: 135-160 (51.7 - 61.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
>252 Atk Pure Power Mega Medicham Fake Out vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mew: 156-184 (55.1 - 65%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

>252 Atk Tough Claws Mega Metagross Bullet Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mew: 198-234 (69.9 - 82.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Burrito revenge kills after residual damage. Onetime suicide switchin or hard check.

>252 Atk Life Orb Mew U-turn vs. 252 HP / 224+ Def Mew: 229-273 (56.6 - 67.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
>4 SpA Life Orb Mew Ice Beam vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Mega Pinsir: 242-286 (89.2 - 105.5%) -- 31.3% chance to OHKO
>252 Atk Life Orb Mew High Jump Kick vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Raikou: 363-426 (113 - 132.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO
>252 Atk Life Orb Mew High Jump Kick vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Rotom-W: 199-234 (65.6 - 77.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

cont in next post
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>252 Atk Life Orb Mew U-turn vs. 252 HP / 112 Def Mega Sableye: 117-138 (38.4 - 45.3%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
Bretty gud counter, but those U-Turns will hurt.

>44 Atk Technician Mega Scizor Bullet Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mew: 204-240 (72 - 84.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Same deal as Metagross.

>252 Atk Life Orb Mew High Jump Kick vs. 56 HP / 0 Def Serperior: 300-355 (98.3 - 116.3%) -- 87.5% chance to OHKO

>252 Atk Life Orb Mew High Jump Kick vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Skarmory: 164-192 (49.1 - 57.4%) -- 58.2% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

>252 Atk Life Orb Mew U-turn vs. 252 HP / 80+ Def Mega Slowbro: 159-190 (40.3 - 48.2%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
See Sableye.

>252 Atk Life Orb Mew U-turn vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Starmie: 354-421 (136.6 - 162.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO

>252 Atk Life Orb Mew Poison Jab vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Talonflame: 156-185 (52.5 - 62.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Solid counter, even with its offensive sets. Threatens with brave birb, then can Roost the damage off, use Wisp or SD and sweep.

>252 Atk Life Orb Mew U-turn vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Tangrowth: 257-304 (63.6 - 75.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
>4 SpA Life Orb Mew Ice Beam vs. 244 HP / 48 SpD Tangrowth: 354-416 (88 - 103.4%) -- 25% chance to OHKO

>4 SpA Life Orb Mew Ice Beam vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Thundurus: 265-315 (88.6 - 105.3%) -- 31.3% chance to OHKO

>4 SpA Life Orb Mew Ice Beam vs. 96 HP / 0 SpD Assault Vest Tornadus-T: 161-192 (49.8 - 59.4%) -- 99.6% chance to 2HKO
>252 Atk Life Orb Mew Poison Jab vs. 96 HP / 0- Def Tornadus-T: 159-187 (49.2 - 57.8%) -- 96.9% chance to 2HKO
Can avoid those 2HKOs with 252 HP EVs.

>252 Atk Life Orb Mew U-turn vs. 248 HP / 96+ Def Mega Venusaur: 109-130 (30 - 35.8%) -- 36.4% chance to 3HKO
Probably the best counter so far.

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>>29752223
>anything with priority
>anything that can take [bug move]/[fighting move]/ice beam.
S C I Z O R
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>>252 Atk Life Orb Mew High Jump Kick vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Volcanion: 246-290 (67.5 - 79.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

4 SpA Life Orb Mew Ice Beam vs. 248 HP / 180+ SpD Zapdos: 182-216 (47.5 - 56.3%) -- 30.1% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

Summarizing:
>Talonflame is the only really consistent hard counter that can't be touched by this monster
>sorta countered by M-Sableye, M-Slowbro and M-Venusaur, but U-Turn still hurts them for 1/3 HP, making them possible to wear down over the game's course with agressive play
>also sorta countered by M-Heracross
>hard checked by most priority users, among which Azumarill, Dragonite, M-Medicham and M-Metagross can switch in once
>everything else is just murdered with good prediction, or even without
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Lele/Pheromosa is going to rule VGC this year.
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>>29754504
Aren't UBs not allowed this year?
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>>29749282
It has equal attack, Satk and speed so the ability will boost one of those randomly.
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>>29753804
Why are you using mew
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>>29754741
Just a habit. You need to use an already existing mon in damage calc as a base before changing base stats and other stuff and I couldn't bother retyping its name everywhere.
>>29754695
151 Spe and 137 Atk/SpA, so just speed.
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>>29755077
>151 Spe and 137 Atk/SpA, so just speed.

Do you think you could get away with max sp attack investment, and not investing in speed so that it would get special attack boosts every kill?

It seems like it's fast enough that it doesn't have to worry about investing in speed, and hopefully you can set up a substitute on anything that would outspeed
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>>29752482
I'm affraid
>It's good under psychic terrain
is gonna be the new
>it's good under trick room
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>>29755340
doubles with top lel, this bitch slaps your bf's ass
wat do
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>>29755224
151 still needs to max its speed, but it can get away with not running a +Spe nature.
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>>29755454
Use Explosion.
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>>29755454

I just realized that if UBs can use Z-moves this thing is going to be the premier Wallbreaker
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>>29751224
No, it's more like Deo-N. Deo-S offensively gets to do things like outspeed ScarfChomp, or get the utility of a hazard setter.

>>29753804
This seems a lot easier to answer than it first appears. Also keep in mind Aegislash will be OU for a while, which stops this thing cold.
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The really great thing about UB Beauty is
>Adamant
>252 Atk 252 Spe
>Attack comes out to 410
>Speed comes out to 401
It can get offensive beast boosts even while being invested in speed.
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>>29755224
You could go Modest with QDance/FBlast/BugBuzz/IceBeam for surprise factor and get SpA boosts after kills, but then it's walled to oblivion by fairies and Chansey. Better go with physically based mixed set.
You need maximum investment with speed-bosting nature or else 252+ base 135 speed mons outspeed you by 4 points, along with a few other relevant mons that are even faster.
>>29755562
Oh right, forgot spookysword will be unbanned and clean OU from majority of Fighting and Psychic types in the tier. Could make it more manageable.
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>>29755978
To add to this, even without going Jolly, it still manages to outpeed Jolly base 130 mons (everything up to Mega Gengar). This thing is going to be good.
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You fucking retards, Beast Boost works on the highest base stats. Buzzwole description says that both his defense and attack get boosted and that's because they're the same and his highest stats.
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>>29756246
This is false
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>>29749282
What animal is she supposed to be?
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>>29756341
>I can't read

Americans.
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>>29756420
cockroach
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>>29756420
Copepod or cockroach.
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it won't be uber, retards.
>who is scizor
>who is aegislash
>who is mawile
>who is talonflame
>who is mimikyu
>who is poison/water starfish
>who is skarmory
>who is gyarados
>who is charizard
>who is mega venusaur
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Can't fucking wait for UB VGC whenever it comes
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>>29753804

Brave Bird is fighting now. Talonflame gets fucked over hard.
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>>29756620
source?
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>>29756808
his ass
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>>29756808
The vid people are getting all this from, BBird was listed as fighting.
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>>29749282
Can someone post its stat spread?
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>>29756808
Unless the guy doing this fucked something up yeah, BB is fighting.
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>>29751163
Those stats are fucking bullshit, broken as bitch. Fuck you GF.
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>>29757898
What site is this senpai
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>>29757898
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>>29757898
Kek, it's just a laggy transition on scrolldown. It's loading a Fighting move learned at lvl 9.
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>>29757962
https://www.youtube.com/user/Kaphotics/videos
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>>29749282
It gets quiver dance
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>>29751882
>stealth rocks
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>>29757898
Lol watch the video, Brave Bird isn't fighting. This screenshot is just taken mid scroll. The fighting move it learns at level 9 is Rock Smash
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>>29757763
And if you actually watched the video instead of just looking at a cherry picked screenshot taken mid-scroll, you'd know it's not fighting
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>>29751882
Got Nerfed
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