HAHAHAHAHA REMEMBER WHEN YOU FAGGOTS MOCKED OUR OWL!!

All the starters have bad stats. No bragging for anybody.

>>29744336
Then we turn to the movepools and hidden abilities, which Decidueye wins hands down.

>>29744396
Except Primarina wins the HA contest, Decidueye's is garbage. Primarina even has the best stat distribution and typing, the only thing Decidueye has is an alright support movepool.

>>29744396
Nope.

>it's an "All of the Starters are shit" episode

I only JUST recovered from Unova...

>>29744524
You realize Serperior is OU right?

>>29744554
After an entire gen of being shit, and then about half of another gen because it couldn't get its HA>

>>29744449
Not really. Cat is the winner of HA. Intimidate will be the only thing to save it from PU. Gay seal might be salvaged as a assault vest mon and not much else. Owl and cat have a movepool, but owl is probably the only one who can use variety of the movepool

>>29744269
>both bulkier and stronger than the decidueye
dumb owlposters

>>29744524
Unlike Unova starters, these ones actually have pretty diverse movepools. Decidueye is kinda similar to Samurott in stats but unlike Samurott, it has some pretty interesting niches and options in its movepool.

Not everything is shit just because it isn't a fast sweeper.

>>29744269
Don't care. Still using Incineroar.

>>29744396
Stop your denial

>>29744524
Why do this? Why doesn't GameFreak want the first Pokemon you get in the game to be somewhat strong? It's like they don't want you to use it.

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>>29744396
>HA is arguably worse than overgrow
>Movepool is mostly physical so those sweet 100 points into SpA are all wasted
>Wins hands down

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Why even shitpost about who is better? Can't we all just get along after GF just fucking shafted everyone who liked any of these guys?

>>29744449
>literally a worse Sylveon with water type slapped on it better than ignoring iron barbs/rough skin, rocky helmet, flame body, static, poison point, mummy, gooey, aftermath, effect spore, cute charm, and ignores the defense boosts from fluffy

>>29744455
you sure got him there, buddy wow

>>29744766
>Nasty plot
>Shadow ball, HP and Grass Knot/Energy ball

All he needs. He could probably drop both HP and grass for defog and roost if he wanted to. Mono ghost attacker is great.

>>29744709
>T-They're in denial you guys!!
>Don't let them justify wanting to use their favorite starter while I justify mine!!

>>29744894
Only iron barbs/rough skin/rocky helmet out of those actually matter in any competitive setting (maybe fluffy if any of the mons that get it are any good). That sure as hell isn't better than intimidate, and only better than liquid voice if it doesn't grant the same 1.3x boost that the -ate abilities do.

>>29744909
Why even mention HP when Energy Ball and Giga Drain are stronger?

dont do that anon

>>29744909
yeah shiftry does great with a mixed attacking spread, no speed and boosting moves

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>>29744631
>Intimidate is better than Water type Pixilate

>>29744396
> 100 spatk
> doesnt learn fuck all for special moves
its bad kohai

>>29744990
>M-my starter is the best
Nope they are all shit, and the Sealfag is the best anyway.
>I-i'm not in d-denial, you are just dumb
You can play the starter you love anon, but don't be dumb like that.

>>29745026
I think you might be retarded. You know HP can be other types right?

>>29744396

Decidueye's HA is hot garbage. Please tell me you're joking

>>29745091
what are TMS friend
isnt this thing guaranteed giga drain and shadow ball

>>29745087
>Pixilate
Is it really Pixilate? I thought it only gave her water STAB on those moves.
>doesn't even learn Boomburst
Waste

>>29745302
I misinterpreted the post, get that stick out of your ass.

>>29744269
doesn't matter i can hard counter the bird and get a free knock off... right?

>>29744269
P-please have dragon dance

>look up every ability that turns normal type moves into other type moves
>all buff it by 30%
>people think it wont be the same for primarina's HA
why do you people even speak when all you say is dumb . if it doesnt buff i will literally eat all my shoes in my house

>>29744909
>Set up Nasty Plot
>Opponent sends out a fast physical attacker that is super effective against Decidueye

RIP

Nice job wasting a turn setting up for nothing

>>29745614
>Opponent sends out
Nigga...

Could anyone post other starters stats and hidden abilities?

>>29745779
You're the black person here

>>29745843
You are the one who doesn't even know what Decidueye does

>>29745614
> SD Scizor is shit
> SD Bisharp is shit
> SD Breloom is shit

With a priority move there's nothing to stop it being viable

>>29745588
Then why isn't it called "Aqualiate"?

>>29744269
Still a better stat spread than the owl.
And much better HA.

>>29745957
because that's an incredibly stupid-sounding name?

>>29745957
Because it doesn't change all normal type attacks but the sound type ones

>>29745908
>SD Cacturne is good
>SD Samurott is good
>SS Carracosta is good

I'm not saying he's entirely right but this thing might not be good either. Also, it's huge Pursuit bait which hurts.

>>29745333
anon they literally listed all learnable moves

>>29745588
it doesn't turn normal moves to water type retard

>>29744554
You don't get Contrary when you play it in-game, it is the worse starter in-game. No good moves, you're stuck with Overgrow, shit stats, it's bad.

Incineroar is literally what Emboar should've been, stat-wise and typing. It's still gonnaa an all right starter but not for competitive. In-game speed isn't quite as important a stat so it'll manage to probably not get boxed most of the time. Looks slightly better than Decidueye, but not by much.

>>29746080
I see your point but I wasn't arguing that a +2 atk/spA move makes a pokemon competitive, only that saying setting up is useless if a pokemon can be outsped and has a weakness rules out so many OU threats

>>29744646
>Gets OHKO'd by EQ
Silly catfag

>>29744269
>Slower than it's babby first evo
Shamefur dispray

>>29745891
Nigga the moment Decidueye comes in you can bet your ass anyone would have already switched into a Pokemon that can force it out.

>>29746443
>Gets OHKO'd by Sucker Punch/Knock Off
Silly owlfag

also intimidate

>>29746466
He probably thinks decidueye has a shadow tag with different name

Wait, please don't tell me there are people out there who have no idea on how "can't switch" mechanics work... right?

Hint, they always involve the "activating" Pokemon to be on the field. You can't just shoot arrow -> switch.

>>29746516
They could have always changed the mechanics for this specific move

>>29746138
it is literally identical to -ate abilities, except instead of changing normal, it changes sound moves. how can you not see how it would also buff by 30% when the -ate abilities also didnt state that it buffed in the ingame description despite doing so

>>29746599
I didn't say that, I said it didn't change normal moves

>>29746674
and neither did i

>>29746482
>Eats his delicious Colbur Berry
>Who needs to attack when you can set up a Sub and Curse

>>29746769
what happened to your Focus Sash anon

Did we already discover decidueyes HA? I must have missed something

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>>29746860
It's HA is shit, not complete shit but still shit.

>>29745087
It's not really pixilate since the only moves turning into water type are hyper voice and sing.

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>>29747037
It works with Hyper Voice, the only attack it has that matters.

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>>29744269
>all this bragging and shitflinging
>they all turn out shit
Like pottery.

>>29746988
I just woke up, where is this info coming from?

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>>29745999
>he's going to be the fast and powerful one
>totally the next Greninja with special treatment guys, suck it Owlfags
>better jump ship now that your new OU masterrace mon is here, Owlfags
>silly Slowlfags btfo HAHAHAHAHA
>implying GF will break patterns and drastically change a starters stats
That's the sum of yesterday and the only thing you can say today is
>a-at least we're still a bit better than the owl, r-right guys?
They're both shit, acccept it. Just because the cat might be slightly less shit, in UU as a worse Arcanine which is still pretty shit mind you, doesn't make this any less of a delicious btfo for you fags. As someone who likes all 3, and was tired of this endless starter war, this is delicious retribution.

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>>29747797
So.

Eviolite Torracat anyone?

>>29747407
i need the name of the douj pls

I can see Long Reach being useful for things like avoiding Flame Body burns and Iron Barbs damage.