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OU or Ubers?
137-152 Base HP
113-129 Base Attack
77-92 Base defense
129-143 Base Special attack
107-122 Base Special Defense
96-111 Base Speed
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>>29738578
>night daze

i originally guessed uber but i want to see the rest of its stuff
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>box legend
>Master Ball
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Leaning towards uber cause of stats + ability but the movepool will determine it.
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>>29738578
>night daze

You could actually pull out Zoroark shenanigans with this thing. Why does it have that much HP though? Good lord.
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>>29738578
where did this come from?
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Ubers for sure.
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>>29738654
It's lunala without his trip apparently. The ID is the same
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>>29738644
they did the same thing with xerneas and yveltal, higher hp with average mixed defenses. shadow shield should make this pretty impressive

can we get a base power on moongeist beam
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>>29738578
Depends. If base speed is 111 then I could make a strong argument for it being Ubers, but if the speed is lower then 110 it will probably be OU

Not sure what ability does though
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>>29738688
I mean nights daze, not ability
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Box legos are always uber, right? Never been a exception?
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>>29738578
SMOGON DON'T MATTER AND ARE NOT OFFICIAL YOU STUPID FUCKING SHEEPS
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>>29738578
Ubers idiot

All box legends go there to begin with
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>>29738716
Kyurem Black
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>>29738716
black kyurem and suicune
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>>29738716
Kyurem Black is the only exception, but that's because it lack a good Physical Ice move iirc.
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>>29738731
>>29738732
>Kyurem-Black
He was ubers to begin with, only dropped because his typing was worse than Zekrom's and he had no movepool.
>Suicune
Not a real box legend and you know it memer
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>80 defense stat
>while bisharp is OU

lunala is gonna be shit
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>>29738627
Used a master ball just so he can catch it right away and post its stats. Didn't want to keep people waiting. Nice try though
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>>29738719
>being official is more important than having fun
;)
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>>29738766
Gets OHKO by a knock off despite having full HP + multiscale
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>Lunala used vacuum wave!
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>>29738578
ubers you fucking tard
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>>29738941
>Slow and shit deffensive typing
It's Kyurem-B all over again
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>>29738627
At least OP still has a legendary unlike you shitchild.
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>>29738941
>Bisharp used Sucker Punch!
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>>29738974
>lunala used willowisp!
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>>29738708
night daze is zoroark's former signature move.
iirc 95 bp, 15% chance to reduce accuracy by one stage
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>>29739005
85 BP
95 Acc
40% chance of lowering opponent's accuracy
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>>29738990
>It missed!
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>>29738578
>Cosmic Power
>Night Daze
>130+ HP
>105+ Sp. Def
>Only two weaknesses

Jesus Christ, if this thing gets a recovery move it's going to break the FUCK out of OU.

Knock Off bait something fierce though, I can't imagine it would actually fair well in Ubers unfortunately.
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>>29738990
>Lunala used will-o-wisp!
>Bisharp used knock off!
>Bisharp used sucker punch!
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>>29739005
40% chance.

Meaning it's annoying as FUCK.
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>>29739123
Sucker Punch got it's BP reduced to 50 anon.
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>>29739141
To 70 you mea. Even with burn Lunala has x4 weakness to it and without multiscale up, it dies very quickly with that shit defense stat
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>>29738627
Master Ball color scheme matches it pretty well though.
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>smogoncuck tiers
Can you go back to your forums? We talk about the real game here, not scrubdown
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>>29738578
SM is full of shitmons, be it the starters or the box legends. Can't wait for gen 8
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>Offensive Ghost type with signature Ghost type nuke, Multiscale, 680 BST, triple digit base speed and hell knows what else
>OU
I knew /vp/ is bad at competitive, but not this bad.
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>>29739971
They are the same people who thought yveltal would be ou.
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>>29739971
dude lugia gets hardwalled by mega sableye and unaware clefable, shit should be UU
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>>29740093
Ebin shitpost, but I'll bite. Lugia hardwalls almost everything without status moves, which in turn get hard stopped by, guess what, M-Sableye itself. I guess you could try bringing it down after banning M-Sableye from OU, but it's not going to end well.
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>>29740263
dude lmao just use crawdaunt xd
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>>29738578
Obviously Ubers. Maybe low tier Uber like Reshiram but too strong for OU.
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>>29738752
how the fuck is suicune not a box legend but kyurem is? Pokemon crystal is a main series pokemon game and suicune is the box legend
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>>29739123
>Bisharp used Knock Off
>Lunala used Roost/Moonlight
I can play this game to.
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>>29740375
Bisharp's knock off deals more than 60% of Lunala's HP with multiscale
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>>29740399
not burned :)
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>>29740425
>doing so many outpredictions just to justify your mon is not shit

>Lunala used Will-o-Wisp
>Bisharp ate Rawst Berry
>Bisharp used Knock off
>252 Atk Bisharp Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Multiscale Mew: 338-398 (76.6 - 90.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Situation 1
>Lunala used Will-o-Wisp
>Bisharp used Knock off
>252 Atk burned Bisharp Knock Off vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mew: 228-270 (51.7 - 61.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
>76.6+51.7= OHKO

Situation 2
>Lunala used Moonlight (not 100% HP)
>Bisharp used Knock off
>252 Atk Bisharp Knock Off vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mew: 456-540 (103.4 - 122.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
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>>29740603
252 Atk Life Orb Bisharp Sucker Punch vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Multiscale Lugia: 361-429 (75.5 - 89.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
0 SpA Lugia Focus Blast vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Bisharp: 576-680 (212.5 - 250.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Done with the lowest possible value for each stat of course.
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>>29740700
>Focus Miss
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>>29740726
>Nerfsharp
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>>29740742
>SR nor spikes exist
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>>29740768
>switch
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Assuming 135/120/80/135/110/100:
>252 Atk Life Orb Bisharp Sucker Punch vs. 0 HP / 8 Def Multiscale Mew: 346-408 (84.1 - 99.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
>0 SpA Mew Hidden Power Fighting vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Bisharp: 300-356 (110.7 - 131.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Bisharp needs a broken Shadow Shield to oneshot offensive Lunaala.
>252+ Atk Black Glasses burned Bisharp Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 224 HP / 252+ Def Multiscale Mew: 169-201 (36.1 - 43%) -- 96.6% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
Physically defensive with access to Wisp and Roost styles all over Bisharp regardless of its moveset, as long as Shadow Shield wasn't broken.
Dark types can easily put it in a bad position with broken Shadow Shield and then try to pursuit trap it, but require hazard support to do their job and even then can be crippled on the switch, so they're more of revenge killers / trappers than counters. Unless this thing has barren as fuck movepool it's going to be completely busted.
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>>29740810
>not forfeiting
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>>29739109
This fucker better get moonlight.
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>>29740922
>inb4 no moonlight like Incineroar not getting sucker punch nor knock off
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>>29740815
Remember that Sucker Punch is 70 BP now, though that doesn't change the point.
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>>29740976
Already took this into account. Would've needed 120 def EVs to take an 80BP sucker punch from full and live, but only 8 for 70BP.
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>>29738974
Most Uber mons have non-uber checks and counters.
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>LO Weavile OHKOs Rayquaza
>Scarf Tyranitar OHKOs Ho-Oh
Lets just start unbanning everything because 4x weaknesses exist
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