Gender ratio

okay, sure, fine, resets here I come.

energy ball and water hyper voice though

>97 pounds
oh wow. I bet her dick takes up almost half of her body weight

>>29736621
>water hyper voice
>same bp as surf and blocked by soundproof
why?

>>29736621
>implying it doesnt die before it gets to anything at all with those garbage defenses
please mate just accept that gf has absolutely cucked all starterfags this gen

>>29736581
So wait, Disarming Voice is now useless against Kommo-O?

>>29736581
Does this mean that Disarming Voice is useless against Kommo-O?

>All Sound moves become Water type
What's the point? Surf is still there at 90, Scald still exists.and it doesn't learn Boomburst

>>29736659

if it works anything like other abilities like pixilate or refrigerate, it gets a 1.3x boost making it stronger than surf

I would still take scald anyways.

Sadly didn't get Swift Swim :(
Thought it would because of how they are all so acrobatic

Biiitch throat chop fucking counters her entire hidden ability.

>>29736669
1/3 of the time yeah

>>29736659
It will boost it's power too like Pixilate. And it shits on enemy subs.

>all starters are shit
How could they fail such simples concepts, 74 ATK is completely unnecessary, and só is 126 ATK.

> No move tutors, RIP hyper voice

>>29736581
Breedable: Yes.

:^)

>>29736581
I'll reset as long as it takes.

>slap a choice scarf on it
>spam liquid voice boomburst all day

>>29736692
Doubles :^]

Surprising literally no one with half a brain.

>>29736581
I'm kinda surprised the HP is only 80 considering most blubbery pokemon tend to have pretty high HP totals. Then again, it is kinda scrawny compared to Dewgong, Walrein, and Wailord.

>>29736669
Wouldn't that happen anyway due to sound proof or not at all due to being a HA?

>>29736581
He's fucking shit. Definitely picking the cat now (even though I haven't looked at its stats yet)

>doesn't get Aurora Veil
>useless HA
>no Def
>little HP
>still 87.5% male
Being Primarina is suffering

>>29736755
>expecting move tutors in the first game of a gen
Prepare your shekels because we'll have to buy the next game in 2 years to get tutors back.

>>29736667
80/74/116 on Water/Fairy is hardly shit.

Oh wait, Water is Poison weak now. btfo

>>29736702
The in-game flavor text for pixilate doesn't specify the boost in power, so there is hope there.

>>29736669
it would be useless either way

Sparkling Aria + Z move

>>29736823
>(even though I haven't looked at its stats yet)
you'll be dissapointed

>>29736824
>useless HA
>implying it doesn't give a 30% boost like -ate abilities

>126 special attack

Jesus, this thing has the highest offensive stat of any starter.

>>29736951
Yeah, just like Sparkling Aria does bonus damage to burned pokemon right?

Also no one's gonna use it even if it did cause of Scald.

Also it won't survive a hit because of that garbage defense and HP.

>>29737003
>Also no one's gonna use it even if it did cause of Scald.
What? Assuming liquid voice gave a 30% boost the bp difference between scald and hyper voice would be 37, and that's not even accounting for STAB.

No swiftswim :(

>>29737241
Is this bait? Greninja has 103 SpA

>>29737159
It doesn't. There's no evidence of that being the case. Look at how fucking awful it's stats are. Look at how it doesn't learn Aurora Veil, the only thing that could save it. You REALLY think they'll actually give it something that might be half-decent? You're in heavy denial.

Primarina seems to be Slyveon and Miltotic in one Pokemon.

This is far better than I expected, she'll be in UU at the very least.

>>29737317
>It doesn't.
Dude, I'm not arguing whether or not it actually gives a 30% boost. Literally in your post:
>Also no one's gonna use it even if it did cause of Scald.
All I was doing was responding to this statement.

>>29736692
>1.3x boost
>substitute
Literally OU

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>>29736581

>>29737331
I'm disappointed that it has no recovery. At least it got Moonblast though.

Where can I see all the moves it learns?

>>29737602
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wns5m7yA2CM

>>29737592
Yea I was hoping for training kiss.

What differentiates lvl 0 moves from a lvl 1 move or egg move?

Any more images like this for other Pokemon?

>>29737641
They learn it upon evolution at any level. Like Salamence's "Fly".

>>29737592
This. If it had Moonlight it would have been pretty nuts.

>>29736970
With water -ate it's going to be OU

>>29736754
Mostly useless but at least aqua jet is more useable

What about the dual screen move?

>>29738263
Luchalitten has Throat Chop but the other two moves are nowhere to be found

It should've learned recover and CM by breeding, but i wouldn't expect good thing from gamefreaks move distribution staff.

>>29736659
doubles maybe?

>>29736581
>breedable:yes

>>29737592
This. No recovery is what really kills it. No chance it's gonna be higher than mid-UU.

>>29738730
What is aqua ring + leftovers

>>29738777
>use Aqua Ring
>get one-shot next turn by whatever physical move
Aqua Ring is garbage.

>>29738854
>Keeping Primarina out against a physical attacker.
Wew friend looks like you're the garbage here

Someone please explain Liquid Voice to me.

What are sound-based moves? So it turns some fairy moves into water type?

How is that useful, both do STAB so it doesn't affect the moveset at all?

>>29738878
The fact that it needs to set up for recovery but is easily shut down by a simple switch makes it garbage my man.

>>29738886
Based on the current leaked movepool, moves like Hyper Voice, Disarming Voice, and Echoed Voice wil become Water type

>>29738953
Hyper Voice has the same stats as Sparkling Aria so I don't get how that's useful in any way.

>>29738939
Why do people always assume that you'll only use one pokemon on your team while the opponent can switch out freely.

Also, one hard hit means whatever switches in will get a pretty good hit.

Porkyman battles don't take place in a vaccuum.

>>29738939
You must see a lot of pokemon as garbage then.
Welcome newfriend, you'll soon learn switching is important.

>>29739020
People think it'll work just like Pixilate so it'll get a damage boost. It doesn't though.

>>29736581
Just woke up, where are you taking this pictures?

>>29739055
The only way it could be useful is with echoed voice reaching 200 Attack, but I don't know how fast it grows and if the boost is saved throughout the entire battle.

>>29739055
>It doesn't though.

Pixilate makes no mention of boosting attacks in its description either, so don't rule out the possibility just yet.

>>29739107
Look at how bad these starters are. There is nothing redeeming about them, least of all Primarina. No chance in hell it gets even an inch of love from GF. They obviously hate it. That's why they made it a trap. It's literally a joke.

>>29739168
Are people legitimately using this as an argument or is this a shit post. With how /vp/ has been lately I really don't know.

>>29739076
https://twitter.com/SciresM?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

go ahead and bookmark this

>>29739168
starters are typically mediocre. Gen 6 spoiled us and people forgot this.

>>29739200
Full Trainer Editor downloadable when?

Specs Primarina will be no worse than UU, possibly OU.

It can spam waterate hyper voice and moonblast, it's pretty good.

Special azumarill with no priority, but harder hitting moves, is definitely worth considering.

>>29739200
>cuckm has the rom but does not share it

I think the starters issue in all games is the base ability they all share

>Pokémon's HP is low
Anything that requires HP to be low is a shit gimmick. Just make it a flat boost to that type from the start. That ability is only good for muh anime power up at the last moment

>>29739386
>risking your neck for some impatient brats

Unless you're in a second-world country you'd be a fucking moron to do this

>>29736581
Jesus Christ, they actually went out of their way to make Primarina shit

>>29736834
Really? I always found it strange that water only took normal damage from Poison. Do you have a source?

>literally a shitty Milotic
not even the fairy type will save it

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>>29736581
>Water Starter best once again

>>29739639
>potentially one of the very few viable starters in ou
>good design
>only gen 7 starter that didn't get raped with garbage stats
>shit
wew lad

>>29739937
>no recovery
>viable in OU
Keep dreaming. They actually did go out of their way to make it shit.

Where is the full moveset list?

>>29740586
post the full move list

>>29740710
See >>29737634
I guess if you want to run Rest on it. Because everyone knows how good Rest is, right?

Ok so, can sleep talk convert any move used into a water type? That will solidify its strategy.

>>29739544
It might actually be a bit useful for Primarina since she's so bulky special def wise.

>>29740735
Big Root Aqua Ring it is then.

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THIS CAN'T BE HAPPENING

>>29740898

Eh, I'm fine with her stats. Nothing special, but easily the best starter this gen.

>slower than Garbodor
>OHKo by Gunkshot with sneaky pebbles
Litterally more garbage than garbage

>>29739922
But Primarina is confirmed to be NU at best, while Decidueye is confirmed to be UU at worst.

>>29740936
I don't care about the stats. How can the Queen of /vp/ be 87.5% male? It's fucking travesty

>>29740936
It's stats are mediocre for a tank, but it still gets no recovery. Having no recovery alone means it'll be mid-UU at best, probably lower since Milotic is superior in every way.

>good typing
>high special attack
>high special defense
>low speed

this will still be fun in single player campaign

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>>29736581
>starter has the same gender ratio as every other starter ever

>>29736581
Do we have the full list of it's attacks?

>>29741158
Primarina learns Scald.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wns5m7yA2CM

>>29740936
>her

>>29741676

I'm soft resetting for a female. Sue me.

>>29741034
That's the thing, basically all bulky waters have 0 offensive pressure.

This thing running max HP/SpA Modest @Leftovers, Ebelt, hell even Specs will be amazing only because of it's typing and STAB.

Reminds me of a weaker Volcanion. It'll be solid UU, I can't see this thing be any higher or lower.

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>>29741419
Thanks.

>>29741906
>acrobatics

Fucking knew it

Energy ball is a completely unexpected surprise. I'll take it.

>>29741880
Only thing that is even remotely viable on it is leftovers since it doesn't have the speed for anything else. Of course, leftovers doesn't compare to an actual recovery move. Maybe if you combine it with Aqua Ring, but then you're spending a turn setting that up.

No way it is UU. It'll be RU at best.

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>>29741019

>>29741906
Can someone explain Sparkling Aria to me?

It doesn't even do extra damage if the target gets its burn healed, it's literally just single target Surf with a downside.

>>29742081
>Bizzaro Scald

>>29736581
>waaah waaah it looks like a female why is it male?
you people are fucking stupid

>>29742081
That's basically it. I have no idea what GF was thinking, but that seems to apply to all the starters this gen. Might be the worst trio ever.

>>29742158
Nah they're still way better than Gen V or Gen II. At least they're all dual typed and they don't have common dual typings, so they'll be unique ingame.

Whereas Gen II had three monotypes and Gen V had the only two possible combinations that were already repeated once.

>>29742081
It's alternative to heal alies.

>>29742328
>Heal ally
>HIT THEM WITH SURF IN THE PROCESS
that's retarded

>>29742051
Your underestimating the power of this typing. It's hard to compare this to the only other mon with this typing, since they're DRASTICALLY different, but keep in mind Azu wasn't OU before the Fairy-type.

Prima has too much power and coverage to be RU. If it does sink down there, it'll be banned. Especially if it's ability allows it to fire off stronger Hydro Pumps with 100% accuracy.

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>>29742081
I figured it out!

>Any pokemon suffering from a burn will be healed.

It will heal ALL pokemon on the field of burn, not just the target. You can cure your own burn, or your double battle ally.

Primarina is defs my FAVORITE final starter this generation with Incineroar

>>29742359
because you don't have to hit them.

It heals all burned pokemon, not just the target.

>>29742500
You know, If you switched Incineroar's Atk and Sp.Atk and gave those stats to Primarina, It'd actually be pretty good.
95/80/90/115/90/60

>>29742500
>no sucker punch
>no knock off
its shit
i mean its probably with intim and that bulk not but no sir i dont like it
but wait a second
>LEECH LIFE 80 BP
holy FUCK
ESCAVALIER TO OU