Hoenn Demake GSC Style

>>29683560
Does anyone have screens when Hoenn was originally for GSC?

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>>29683560

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>>29684134

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>>29683560
You probably won't get anywhere, demakes never do, but in the miracle chance that you do get anywhere, here's a Gen 2 spritesheet of every Gen 3 Pokémon.

>>29683754
>that vigoroth

>>29684249
Anything for Gen IV, out of curiosity?

>>29683754
Steelix looks like it's about to consume the very fiber of my being.

My bro Octillery still looking based as ever though.

also I see that tentaquil you sneaky cunt

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>>29684304
I have frontsprites of it, and the dude who made the backsprites said he plans on it, but real life has kept him busy.

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>>29684336
*the dude who made the Gen 3 backsprites said he plans on making backsprites for Gen 4

Also posting this just because. I don't think there's a full sprite sheet of Gen 5.

>>29684195
Cna i use these maps ? And do i just rip them or what?

>>29684336
No backsprites?

>>29683754
Thanks for reminding just how shitty red & green style sprites (And to extension western Red & Blue) were

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>>29685023
Someone did the front sprites for Gen 3 and 4 without the backsprites, then someone else did backsprites for Gen 3. They plan to do Gen 4 but haven't had the time.

While I'm posting Hoenn resources for OP, here's some music covers.

https://soundcloud.com/mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm-1/sets/gbc-8-bit-hoenn

The code to each song is in that song's description. They're intended to be used with the pokecrystal disassembly, which I'll link just in case OP doesn't know about it, since it's 10000x easier to use than hacking the traditional way.

https://github.com/pret/pokecrystal

>>29684358
Aegislash is way too skinny

>>29685441
It was a collaborative sprite sheet, and the colors mark the quality of the sprite and whether it needs to be improved or replaced. I can't remember everything but light blue meant it was 100% good, yellow and green meant it had some issues (can't remember which was more serious), and red needed to be replaced.

>>29683754
Oh man I remember the threads when they were making this thing. Good times.
I did reuniclus

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>>29683754
I hate this fucking image. It takes the whole "Gen 1 had bad sprites XD" stigma and uses it as excuse to make shoddy, half-assed pixel work. Gen 1 sprites weren't NEARLY as bad as some of the shit in this picture.

>>29683560
Gen 2 Essentials look it up senpai.

>>29685597
This guy gets it. The Gen 1 sprites were weird and awkward, yes, but nowhere near as bad as some of the shit in there.

>>29683754
>skiploom

Jesus christ, it's going to kill us all.

>>29684249
Thanks a lot ! Exactly what i was looking for

>>29685323
You are a godsent. I knew aboutghe disassembly but not exactly sure how to use it? Thinking of starting with the pokemon and then maps first.

Correct me if im wrong but wouldnt putting the new music take up alot of space?

>>29685931
You want to look at https://github.com/pret/pokecrystal/blob/master/INSTALL.md to get everything you need to install. It's not a hard process but I've seen some people get confused at what you need to install so if you have any questions I'll try to answer assuming I'm still awake, and the link I just posted has a link inside to an IRC chat that can also help if I'm not around. Just make sure you're able to build it before editing anything, that way if you mess something up you'll know it's because of a change you did and not because you messed up the installation.

That priority order sounds good to me. Mapping is like the only thing you need a tool for that isn't part of the disassembly installation, though, so I'll also give you this link to a disassembly-based map editor.
https://github.com/yenatch/crowdmap

>Correct me if im wrong but wouldnt putting the new music take up alot of space?
Nah. If it was .wav files or something it would, but music on the Game Boy is sequenced (think of it like a MIDI but simpler). I'm not sure how much each song takes up when compressed, but it's definitely not a lot and you can remove songs from the original game that you wouldn't use if you really need to make room. Graphics will take up a lot more space than music in your ROM.

>>29683754
>Medicham

>>29684195
This might answer a question that I've always had about all the older gameboy/gbc games,

What would the total grid size of the world map and all of the explorable areas would be?

But it's a little hard to parse from this image at this resolution. Is there a bigger world map image of this Hoenn demake or of another gbc era game?

>>29685597
You can see IN the picture how wrong you are. The JP sprites were spectacularly bad.

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>>29683754
>Some are actually really decent attempts at demaking sprites
>Others are just "lol r/b sprites sucked" the image

>>29686377
On mobile now so not able to build it until later , looks simple enough , i assume i just have to download everything and compile it? I'll message on the irc chat if i have questions thanks a lot!

For maps , would it be possible to rip them from the big hoenn map demake posted above? Would save a lot of time rather than doing all from a scratch.

>>29686457
http://ck47.deviantart.com/art/Hoenn-GBC-397556071

Full version of the map is available here for download

>>29683754
>all these outlandish spritework designs copying the r/g designs
>wailmer STILL LOOKS EXACTLY THE FUCKING SAME

>>29688995
>what are Clefable, Nidorino, Raticate, Aerodactyl, and a lot of others from Gen 1

>>29683560

imo they should keep using old style game boxes, they were more attractive

also

why you posted that small image...

>>29684195
Never knew that Hoenn was so big

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Why the fuck did wailmer have to evolve? It had a perfect design and it was so happy. Wailord looks depressing as all fuck.

Not using yellow style sprites?

>>29685660
I have no problem with blue sprites. People also didn't see red and green sprites which blue corrected.

Yellow is the best of them all. Closer to artwork and anime.

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>>29688982
This dude also has the character sprites, so all OP needs is to probably look through his pics and you should have everything you need, plus the Pokemon sprites from this thread. Just use the GSC battle screen, bag screen, party screen, mini sprites, etc since it's all generic at that point. If he's missing maps like maybe the Regi caves, just find a GSC map Sprite sheet and build it from there

>>29685597
>>29686580
you guys are right

>>29689531
http://ck47.deviantart.com/gallery/38104005/Hoenn-GBC

>>29683754
there are red and green not gsc

>>29686567
Some were but not nearly as many that were intentionally made to look bad in the image.

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>>29686567
they're bad but they're still cohesive designs. You have to remember until gen 4 most Pokemon were designed in pixel before they were drawn out on paper, shit like Tyrogue, Hitmontop, Victini etc. could never fly. Some however are very good, for instance Feraligatr is a great demake and would fit right at home in gen 1.

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>>29683754

>>29683560
Oh,I'd love this!Hope it actually gets finished.

>>29683560
>tfw it's still better than ORAS

>>29690704
I remember having this magazine!

>>29691019
Nice meme

>>29686787
>i assume i just have to download everything and compile it?

If you're still around, you basically download and install a program called cygwin (it's a program that lets you use Linux commands in Windows), and then type certain commands in cygwin that will set everything else up for you atuomatically. It's a lot better to do it as instructed than to just download things because it will give you some extra files that are beneficial and it'll link you up with the github so you can update your repository in case they update the project to be better (i.e. adding better labels or commenting on code to be more easily understood, since the disassembly is otherwise complete at this point).

>For maps , would it be possible to rip them from the big hoenn map demake posted above?

Unfortunately no. I think you'd have to define some extra tiles for this project (even if you don't want to make custom OW graphics; if you do you obviously need to make extra tiles) since everything is done in a 2x2 grid and that map probably doesn't follow it exactly. The editor is really user-friendly, though, things like map connections and scrolling through tilesets and such come easy.

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>>29690704
>until gen 4 most Pokemon were designed in pixel before they were drawn out on paper,
Source?

>>29683754
>Medichan
toppest of keks

>>29693098
Last minute bump. I'm looking for it because I think I heard it in a YouTube video but I can't for the life of me remember which one, but I've been thinking about it a lot.

>>29689531
I could probably only use the map sprites for reference though. Not exactly sure how to rip them completely and just place them in a game.

>>29690096
No>>29692845
Alright thanks !

So at best i could probably only use them for reference? Thats gonna be a huge time sink. Oh well at least i dont need to design all the pokemon from scratch.

>>29696542
>Thats gonna be a huge time sink.

ROMhacking always is.

One last thing I can think to give you is this: it's an old attempt at porting Emerald to Gen 2 from years ago. The beta doesn't go past Petalburg and the music is ear-raping, but you'd probably be interested in it.

https://www.sendspace.com/file/tb6fsv

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>>29683754
>Mime Jr.

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>>29685615

>>29696609
I realised , but thanks for the advice :)

Is this the Emerald time of 2nd gen or hoenn league? If it is ,I've asked him for permission to use some of his sprites.
Imo the tiles are quite bright though.

>>29697056
>Is this the Emerald time of 2nd gen or hoenn league?

I honestly can't remember, I downloaded it a long time ago.

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>>29683754
every time man

>>29697078
Yup it is! Just downloaded it and played for a while.

>>29697081
>six colors

>>29685597
So fucking much this. Gen2 sprites are the proof.

>>29686567
Not him, but he didn't said otherwise. He just said this is a excuse to not do well worked sprites.

>>29685597
>>29685660
see
>>29686567

>>29685597
agreed, so many of these don't fit the art style of gen 1 sprites. there are a lot of bad ones but aipom in particular pisses me off so much

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>>29683754
>raikou
>steelix
>sableye
>medicham
>huntail
Holy shit these are great reaction image material, those are just the highhlights.

>>29683908
No, because that wasn't a thing.

>>29690704
>they're bad but they're still cohesive designs.
I don't think you understand what cohesion is.

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>u wot m8

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>>29699441
They all look they they belong to the same game, that spell it out for you shithead? I even pointed out how fucking unfitting most of these sprites are. I know what cohesion is and these sprites are NOT cohesive for the most part.

>>29699716
>They all look they they belong to the same game
You have seen those sprites, right?
There's next to no connecting features between them either in proportion, design or general style. Hell Pidgey doesn't even look like it belongs in the same line let alone game.

Are you sure you're just not making the connection due to the future designs?

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>>29699850
Nah man. The line work and shading is consistent between sprites for all of the Kantomons, and while some fan works emulated it nicely anyone can instantly tell where the official sprites end and the fan sprites begin. It's not good.

Also Pidgey manages to fit in because his good friend Spearow is here to compare to.

>>29700040
>The line work and shading is consistent between sprites for all of the Kantomons,
Okay seriously look closely at them.

>>29700040
>Also Pidgey manages to fit in because his good friend Spearow is here to compare to.
Not him but the detail on spearow and Pidgey is pretty different.

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>>29700081
Almost all Pokemon have lighting coming in from the left side wether it's at a heightened angle or just straight on with few excepts, this gives the game one layer of cohesion being when a Pokemon faints or its switched out the transition from a light sources with an origin to the left of the Pokemon to an origin to the right is generally avoided giving the pokemon a unified shading. Also don't forget that color was a complete and total after thought as most Pokemon were originally drawn out using the gameboy's grey scale pallette and by removing the sporadic change that is the colored sprites we gain ANOTHER level of cohesion, you could argue by removing the colors of the fan work it could make THOSE sprites more cohesive to the official work but that's where my last point comes in. The last layer of cohesion in the sprites is, as I've stated before, the line work, most every Pokemon in this picture is highly detailed to a point even if they end up looking kind of doofy (I.e bulbasaur family) yet in the case of Bulbasaur's line they still have immense detail in their flowers and leaves and there's very few ""mistakes"" with smooth outlines for the most part unlike the fan work which leaves in jagged and and rigid line art because "gen 1 has bad sprites." ALSO I just noticed....

Why does the full gen 1 to gen 5 demake include sprites from both Red, Green AND Blue instead of just the original? That's weird.

TL;Dr:fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck

>>29683754

WHAT IS THAT UNHOLY ENTITY AFTER GENESECT FUCK

>>29700551
>newfags

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>>29683754
fug

Theres a pokemon yellow with a graphics patch with changed sprites so they dont look so derpy.

Anyone else got GSC style sprites?

>>29700464
Not very cohesive of even the lighting is off.
But seriously, look at those designs they're so inconsistent it's like comparing FF monsters to BoF.

>>29683754
>Meditite and Medicham have become Mr. Popo for no reason.

I can understand making their skin black because I can see Gamefreak having done that innocently in Gen 1 ala Jynx but the freaking expressions completely ruin the feel of the Pokémon.