>Foe sends out Lunala! >Foe's Lunala has fainted!

> using legendaries to battle
Get a load of this normie.

>>29652028
Timburr used Karate Chop!

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>>29652028
>>29652048
>Sends out mega fug
>Wins
Didn't even need to use a move.

>>29652078
So fucking overrated

>Modest Lunala used -6 0 IV Arm Thrust!
>It hit 1 time(s)!
>The foe's Tyranitar fainted!

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>>29652089
Sounds like you aren't winning son.

>>29652028
>What is focus blast?

>>29652112
>Modest A-Ratata used -6 0 IV Sucker Punch!
>>The foe's Lunala fainted!

>>29652183
You mean Focus Miss

>>29652028
But Lunala will be Ubers :^)

>>29652770
>Lunala
>ubers
Pick one faggot

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>>29653103
You're not the boss of me or him.
I pick both nigger.

>>29653160
Nothing that's 4x weak to both Knock Off and Shadow Ball is going to be anywhere near Ubers.

>>29652073
>no low kick

>>29653193
>http://www.smogon.com/dex/xy/pokemon/hoopa-unbound/
>Tier: Uber
????

Even with a shit ass ability that does nothing lol

>>29653193
>B-but muh multiscale

>>29653237
BLOWN THE FUCK OUT

>>29653237
>DARK/Psychic
Are you retarded? Better compare it with this RU mon
http://www.smogon.com/dex/xy/pokemon/hoopa/

>>29652183
Child's play 8 SpA Genesect Focus Blast vs. +1 0 HP / 0 SpD Mega Tyranitar in Sand: 156-188 (45.7 - 55.1%) -- 55.9% chance to 2HKO

8 SpA Genesect Focus Blast vs. 0 HP / 100 SpD Assault Vest Tyranitar in Sand: 164-196 (48 - 57.4%) -- 90.2% chance to 2HKO

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>>29653237
>psychic/dark is weak to knock off and shadow ball

We REALLY need to find out Lunala's statspread to put this argument to rest, see if it's fragile as it looks.

>>29653237
>>29653262

>implying Hoopa-U is x4 weak to knock off, sucker punch, shadow sneak and shadow ball
kys

>>29653262
See
>>29653269
>>29653279

and stop being retarded

>>29653273
That's still a pretty good chance to 2HKO Tyranitar, especially after stealth rock.

>>29653269
>>29653269
>implying Lunaala is going to have 70 speed and not 90 minimum
>implynig Lunaala will have 60 base Defense and not Lugia's Balk

>Hoopa-C having a good signature move like Hyperspace Fury or Moongeist Beam

>0 SpA Lunala Moongeist Beam vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Skarmory: 216-255 (64.6 - 76.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Not enough to take advantage of the fact that it ignores sturdy but
And this is obviously just guessing how strong MGB is

>>29653193
Deoxys N & A are Ubers, but practically die to any Sucker Punch/Shadow Sneak/Shadow Ball/Knock off.

>>29653304
>After stealth rock
Lunala gets OHKO after stealth rock by any pokemon with sucker punch or knock off

>>29652028
Sad thing is you could replace that pic with just about any pokemon. Lunala is that bad.

>>29653338
I'm talking about tyranitar being hit by Stealth Rock you illiterate fuck.

>>29653336
Deoxys-N is Ubers only because it can't be OU

>>29653334
>Implying defenses matter when you have 2 x4 weaknesses with the most common priority moves
Lunala gets hurt by any kind of hazard and it gets blown

>>29653288
>Dragonite has 91/95/100 bulk
>Lugia has 106/130/154 bulk

Lunala is definitely somewhere in between there. Picked those two because Multiscale. The other question is if Moongeist Beam is Technoblast tier useless signature or good on literally everything

>>29653383
>lunala is x4 weak to Water and Steel
????
Its immune to fake out and ESpeed too so I dont know where youre getting this "most common priority moves"

>>29653336
You bet your ass that Deoxys N and A have higher offensive stats and are faster than Lunala

>>29653366
Youre forgetting we dont know if Full Moon Phase is a "Primal"-like or does anything or not.

>>29652089
You don't know what "overrated" means. It's rated at the top because it IS at the top.

>>29653367
>only hazards to one side, the other side is clean so Lunala doesn't look like shit
Fuck off retard

>>29653384
Moongeist Beam we already know has a great secondary effect. The only way it could be Techno Blast useless is if has low BP.

>>29653448
It's an easy 2HKO with Focus Blast from a Genesect on to Tyranitar.
Either learn reading comprehension or kys

>>29653411
>What is sucker punch
And even if knock off is not a priority move, there are many pokemon that have it in their moveset. Lunala can't switch in to tank any attack nor with any entry hazard, sandstorm or hail (its ability would become useless)

>>29653499
What does 2HKO-ing Tyranitar matter when he can OHKO?

>>29652028
Lunala will definitely be Ubers, mark my words

>>29653524
>Can't switch in safely
>Can clean up Tyranitar that is at half health or less
>Making a kill range for when Lunala is almost dead so the next Pokemon can keep up momentum

>>29653650
>needing the sacrifice of another pokemon in order to kill stuff
>Get's hit by sandstorm
>kills TTar
>dies to a knock off
2 deaths for 1, totally worth

>>29653433
We do know. It's just for their signature moves.

>>29653374
You know the entire point of Ubers is that it's a ban list for OU right?

>>29653710
>Lunala is at 10% of health and is likely to die soon and is nearly useless at this point except for one thing
>Opponent brings in Tyranitar
>Lunala uses Focus Blast
>Tyranitar is half fucking dead
>Tyranitar used Pursuit
>Lunala is now pretty fucking dead
>You switch into Mr. Fuckface
>Mr. Fuckface sets up on your ass
Or
>Mr. Fuckface kills Fucking Tyranitar like its no one's business
GG mother fucker

>>29653374
That's literally what every Ubers mon is in Ubers for. Ubers is a ban list first and a tier second.

>>29653830
>>Lunala uses Focus Blast
>Tyranitar avoided the attack!

>>29653193
>Nothing that is *4 weak to Stealth Rock is going anywhere near uber

>>29653334
Just a reminder that in June's video Lunala outspeeds a Gengar, which has 110 Speed.

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>>29655408
So we have a Hoopa that Outspeeds Gengar and can tank at least one hit thanks to Not!Multiscale.
That's kinda fucking amazing.

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>>29652129
>>29652078
BRO DON'T WORRY ILL HANDLE THIS!!!

>>29652028
>Multiscale

>Tyranitar
>relevant in Ubers

>>29653503
Why would a Lunala stay in against Yveltal in the first place?

>>29655766
It always has been.

>>29654222
Yeah. Had Ho-oh and his typing been unveiled this gen, these same retards would be saying it wouldn't belong to ubers.

>>29655626
Sandstorm ruins Shadow Shield.

>>29656432
Ho-Oh only has a single 4x weakness.

>>29656432
I don't see any rock type priority move and the decent BP rock moves have shit distribution and accuracy

>>29657419
Everything gets Rock Slide.

>>29657419
>I don't see any rock type priority move
You clearly haven't been paying attention to the trailers then. Or, really, to any of the Taloflame BTFO threads.

>>29657590
>Rock slide
>75 BP
>90% Acc
Wow it's fucking nothing

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>>29656249
Do you get off on lying or something?

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>>29652078
Fugtrio

>>29653384
I'm still betting on Moongeist Beam snd Sunsteel Strike being Z Moves - the trailers that showed them used the Z Move text to give their names, if I recall. So even if the moves are good, it means giving up an item slot for one use

>>29657873
Maybe the meta changes into whoever strikes harder with their Z moves and make the stall meta obsolete

>>29658391
>one-use moves
>changing the meta

>>29658495
See wall, break wall

>>29653374
Normal Deoxys suck ass tho.

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>>29657873
>the trailers that showed them used the Z Move text to give their names
It didn't. Meaning it's highly unlikely it's a Z-Move.