I'm so fucking pissed

>>29648215
Because it has the most interesting and well designed pokemons, and simple but effective story

>>29648274
>it has the most interesting and well designed pokemons, and simple but effective story

HA, good one

>>29648215
Do you really want your favs from other gens ending up like alolan persian?

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>>29648274
Not even trying

>>29648274
Good one, faggot.

>anything past gen1
>relevant

pick one

>tfw your favorite gen will never be ruined by overexposition and Alolapersianism
Feels good to be Unovan

>>29648274 (you)

Why does this place hate the first generation so much

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>>29648274
>interesting
>well-designed

>>29648215
Be honest, do you want anything past Kanto to receive special attention? Do you really want universally hated pokemon like stantler, vanilluxe, emboar, barbaracle, electivire, garbodor, chesnaught, meganium, diggersby, probopass, magmortar, and the like to receive more attenion than they deserve? Think very carefully about your answer.

>>29648863
>stantler
>vanilluxe
>barbaracle
>more attention
I don't see the issue here.

>>29648215
Sadly, it seems that your regular non-pokemon fan folk doesn't have the capacity of remembering any pokemon beyond the first gen, so it's kinda of smart move to give it alola forms to some of the most recognizable pokemons A.K.A. first gen pokemons...
Believe me, i'm just as pissed off as you are op, though i'm more pissed off that they just did a small handful and called it day instead of doing a decent amount of new varied alola form pokemon

>>29648857
Oh hey, it's the worst designed Grass type.

>>29649020
That's not Sunflora.

>>29650052
that's what I nicknamed my Serperior

>>29648853
Inferiority complex.

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>>29649020

>>29648853
Because there are plenty of normie sites for you to fuck off to if you want to jerk off to le 90s nostalgia.

>>29648274
"Voltorb"

>>29648853
for the same reason people are hating jojo

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>>29648853
Not sure. I didn't grow up with the first gen games myself but I've always liked the Kanto mons more or less, especially shit like Nidoking and Golem

>>29648853
Because they hate the idea something they like is enjoyed by "normies". And the fact that half this site is around 13-16 helps.

>>29648215
Said it before, I'll say it again. There is no point from a business perspective to appeal to you, because you will buy it anyway. No significant number of potential buyers refuses to buy the games because of Gen I pandering, but Gen I pandering has the benefit of roping in people who would otherwise not even know they exist.

>>29650615
>STILL liking Golem

>>29648853
I like the 1st generation but it gets tiring to see the same old mons being put above the others.

I hate Gen III (or just Hoenn in general as I liked Orre and FRLG) far more.

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>>29648274

>>29650615
>Shit
>Like Nidoking

>>29652171
He means shit as in stuff, not bad.

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>>29648274
>Because it has the most interesting and well designed pokemons

>>29648853
Full of kids whose first games were Black and White, hence the BW/B2W2 circlejerk that goes on here.

>>29648853
Nostalgia backlash. Lots of companies are milking the older millennials and doing it badly. Genwun pandering has gotten worse as that trend takes off.

Becauae it is the best generation of all time. It is foretold that if you did not grow up with Gen 1, you will never be able to become a true Pokemon fan.

>>29648215
>Why is gamefreak giving so much love only to the First generation?
How? With Alolan forms? Because that's pretty much it.

>>29648317
>>29648338
>>29648347
>>29648857
>>29652165
>>29652275
ITT: butthurt not-genwunners hating the most marketable gen because their favourite gen is forgetable and sucks

>>29650478
This

Do people really struggle to understand why GF does it? Fair enough if it annoys you, but it's pretty obvious from a marketing stand-point why they do it. It's the same reason Wolverine and Spider-Man are all over Marvel products instead of Karolina Dean and Surge.

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>>29648274

Ever since I left the city >>29648274

>>29650697
But is it really paying off? We don't know if most of the new people preordering the game are what could be considered genwunners. For all we know it could be like how Marvel panders to a demographic that doesn't even buy comics.

>>29652693
That's a little different to be honest I think, at this point Marvel's main demographic are the people watching the movies and buying merchandise.

>>29648274
I've been playing since R/B back in '98 (I was 13 then...I know I'm old), and I can admit that every generation has its stand out mons design wise, as well as it shitty designs. Not every Pokemon in R/B/Y looked good...a bunch of them looked like ass. But you can say that about every single generation.

As far as the story goes, basically every main line Pokemon game has had a shitty story with the exception of B/W. And even then, B/W's story was decent at best. Every other Pokemon game just follows the same formula over and over and over again. I'm excited about Sun/Moon because at least you're not fighting gym leaders all over again. But the Kahuna system looks retarded...and I'm not expecting much from the story either.

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>>29648863
>Implying that only those Pokemon will be attention and nothing else.

See a doctor immediately.

Also, Vanillite is cute.

>>29652326
>Charizard and Mewtwo have two mega forms.

You can't make this shit up. Gen. 1 pandering did not just start recently.

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>>29648853
They've been pushing gen 1 so hard in the recent years that it's been like, what's the point of the every later generation then? Why bother introducing new Pokemon if they're going to put 50% of the spotlight on the oldest generation? They're just going to throw them out and forget about them next generation anyway while gen 1 mons continue getting full feature in the next game.

Of course, they're just capitalizing on demand. Pokemon was most popular during generation 1 and it's this market that insists on sticking with one generation. It's just annoying seeing Gamefreak further encouraging this and pandering hard to this group with mostly-Gen 1 Megas and Alolan formes while other generations get shafted. They should be doing equal marketing so the other later generations continue receiving attention as well. You'd think the kids that start with later generations would have the starters of that generation as their iconic Pokemon but no, Gamefreak's been pushing them all to the same old Squirtle, Charmander and Bulbasaur.

The same thing goes on in other series to be fair, Yugioh's been pushing Blue-Eyes and Dark Magician hard these days and Digimon always falls back on Agumon and variations of it.

>>29648863
Barbaracle and Chesnaught are only hated because memeing. Vanillite and Trubbish were cute they just suffer from ugly evolutions, and Garbodor isn't even that bad at that. I really don't want several Kanto mon to receive attention, like Fearow, Voltorb, or Rhyhorn, because they're all boring, dumb, or generic. I'm, of course, not able to list much more because a couple have already received attention, like fucking Golem.

>>29648863
>Barbaracle
>Electivire
>Chesnaught
>Meganium
>Bad designs

Nigga what?

I kind of agree with the rest of your choices though.

>>29652353
Half of gen one isn't even marketable they tend to stick to a few mainstays but nobody's gonna buy Fearow toys en masse. Gen One IS forgettable in many areas and wouldn't have been that liked had it not come first.

>>29648853
Because we've had Kanto in our face for 5 of the last 6 generations.

We get it.

>>29650478
what did he mean by this?

>>29650688
Please. Go on facebook or any other website and it's plain to see who's shilling the hardest for gen one. Yeah we have underage here, for sure, but they're the ones on your side. And even then they're usually baiting because that's what underage do.

>>29654152
delet this (before getting banned)

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Gen VI and VII have been doing a lot of frustrating Kanto pandering, especially off of Gen IV and V which were pretty original or at least tried to make an image for themselves

SM have the excuse of being the anniversary games, but they have a lot more Kanto pandering than XY did. Despite that, XY's pandering made even less sense as a result

>Most of the Megas were from Gen I
>You can have Megas of the Gen I starters
>Trash like Caterpie, Pikachu and Pidgey to litter the early game routes despite Game Freak designing new Pokemon based on these purposes
>Oh look, another Snorlax sleeping in front of the road
>Literally copy+pasting Viridian Forest's map
And so on. I think that's the issue with XY because it really doesn't have an identity of itself. A lot of the things that it does are cool are overlooked or have been done better in previous games

Also Alolan forms were a waste of time. If they were gonna be given to only like 18 shitmons, why implement it at all?

>>29650688
the truest truth
the gen 1 hate here is unreal

>>29654270
I don't give a fuck about what you're saying, but nice pic

>>29654270
Most of the gen 5 mons are copies of gen 1, including the method of evolution and number of stages.

>>29654844
>or at least tried to make an image for themselves

Gen V is not the epitome of originality, but it doesn't rely on previously established designs in order to make a name of itself. It's the opposite, it takes inspiration from the originals and tries to be as varied as possible. Most of the copies don't really act the exact same as their Gen I counterparts

Would you really say making copies is the exact same as using the same, previously established designs?

>>29648853
Because it's full of hipsters and teenagers who were born after gen 1.

>>29648215
Because nearly everyone in existence likes the first generation more than your favorite one.

why would a company promote the most recognizable era of their franchise?

>>29652693
Even if they aren't a significant demographic they're still a much larger demographic than people who hate gen 1 so much they won't buy games with gen 1 pokemon.

>>29654190
Hmm, I do find this kind of hard to believe to be honest man. Surely the people shilling gen one the hardest would be the old fans? And if kids do love Gen One, then doesn't that just mean GF are even more justified in showcasing shit from Kanto? Getting the young and old demographics?

>>29649020
That's not Torterra.

>>29655733
*Meganium

>>29654270
>Most of the Megas were from Gen I
>You can have Megas of the Gen I starters
>Trash like Caterpie, Pikachu and Pidgey to litter the early game routes despite Game Freak designing new Pokemon based on these purposes
>Oh look, another Snorlax sleeping in front of the road
>Literally copy+pasting Viridian Forest's map
if that's what XY has done

I'm scared about what is SM going to do

>>29652693
One look at Pokemon GO's support should give you an idea of how enormous the casual market is.

Sm also has a ton of gen 1 pandering and it's since broken Nintendo preorder records.

As much as fans may not want to admit it, they are outnumbered by casuals.

>>29648215
Because people are gullible fucks easily roped in by nostalgia, it's where the money is.

>>29656304
This should of been obvious since the 90s. I can't really think of any videogame/anime that's had the same popularity with such a wide audience. It's like being annoyed that casuals like Disney cartoons, Star Wars or Superman.

>>29648274
tl;dr
"Muh nostalgia, i wanna be the very best like nn no ever was xDdddd"
>>29648853
In my case, i dont hate the first gen but the normies genwunners that proclaims it as the best generation and only generation

>>29648215
Because that's what people want? Nobody's clamoring for Alolan Patrat or Mega Torterra.

>>29657510
Great argument.

>>29657526
One of the best designed grass starters getting a mega evolution would be nice but I'd rather prioritize Pokemon that are even worse.

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>>29657526
Was anybody asking for Alolan Raticate to begin with?

>>29657526
Oh yes, clearly people were absolutely begging for Alolan Exeggutor and Mega Kangashkan.

>>29652326
>How? With Alolan forms? Because that's pretty much it.

and with the appearance of Red and Blue.
and with the appearance of Alolan Oak.
and with Charizard and Mewtwo getting two Megas.
and with that one 20th Anniversary Super Bowl commercial using only Kanto Pokemon as opposed to Pokemon from all Generations.
and with Pokemon Go using only Kanto Pokemon.

I don't hate Gen 1, but the pandering is worse than the pandering Square-Enix gives to FFVII. Let other Generations get attention as well, which is what Pokemon Generations is doing right.

>>29657776
Ratatta is at least a positively liked meme.

I love Torterra dearly but it's not like he's well remembered or loved by the average person.

>>29658041
You forgot that in the first GO add, it appeared fucking Mega Lucario.

>>29658083
>You forgot that in the first GO add, it appeared fucking Mega Lucario.

I actually didn't, it was nice to see a non-Gen 1 Pokemon there.

However, it still doesn't change the fact that the ad was obviously all Gen 1(except Mega Lucario)

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Being gen>1er is suffering

>>29658041
>and with the appearance of Red and Blue.
Uh, Cynthia's appearing too, dumbass. Even without that, Red and Blue are much more popular remembered than any other pc/rival, so of course they're appearing more.
>and with the appearance of Alolan Oak.
No one even knows any of the other professors.
>and with Charizard and Mewtwo getting two Megas.
Two of the most popular pokemon get two megas? Shocking.
>and with that one 20th Anniversary Super Bowl commercial using only Kanto Pokemon as opposed to Pokemon from all Generations.
Those are the only pokemon people watching the superbowl would recognize
>and with Pokemon Go using only Kanto Pokemon.
Did you expect them to add 600 more pokemon and push the release date back a year?

You're literally just whining that they're giving attention to the stuff that people like instead of the crap that nobody remembers.

>>29658664
>Did you expect them to add 600 more pokemon and push the release date back a year?
>actually implying it would take that long to insert models and distribution locations

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>>29652326
LOL
O
L

>>29658689
Point is, it would take more work that Niantic clearly didn't want to do.

>>29658797
Could Wally and Anabel be related? They look so similar

>>29658664
I think comic books are a good comparison really. I like a lot of series and characters that aren't particularly popular, I'd like to see them get more attention, new runs, multiple decent adaptions and shit but it's understandable why Marvel/DC are going to push the established characters that have decade long fanbases.
Pokemon are just characters, ofcourse Nintendo/GF are going to use stuff like the Kanto starters, Mewtwo, Meowth and Lucario etc in adverts and as gifts in the game. Giving players access to the most popular characters in most of the games isn't ever really going to be a bad thing, it's Nintedo listening to a sizeable portion of it's fanbase not pandering to a minority, worse case you can just don't use them (like I personally don't with most of the stuff the game makes a big deal about giving, you for it's worth)
And despite what people say Gamefreak never ignore a region. At some point in all the mainline games you have access to like 99% of Pokemon just by owning the previous games or trading. And we have no reason to believe they won't continue making remakes, some recent interview pretty much confirmed it.
I dunno, it really seems like people just make reasons to be angry sometimes.

>>29658943
which one is a girl?

>>29648863
Yes you fucking faggot.

>>29656146
Gen 1 mons take up around 60% of the alola dex and only they get alola forms

There's more gen 1 mons than there is alola pokmeon

>>29648215
At least they didn't give any Alolan forms to Charizard or Mewtwo. Be grateful for that.

>>29650505
>le

Good one. Here's your (you), little child.

>>29659067
Anabel

>>29659339
They didn't give Alolan forms to them because they already had Megas. It wouldn't make sense for a Alolan Water/Flying Charizard to suddenly become Fire/Dragon

I thought we all realized this after Marowak became Fire/Ghost

Because it sells.
Normies and Nostalgiafags get to go "Hey, there's one of those Pokemon I 'member seeing before!"
Marketing can reach out to literally everyone because normies who never bought into PokeMania back then will at least recognize Mewtwo, the Kanto Starters, Gengar, Pidgeot and the like as "one of those pokeymans" and finally decide to buy the games to see what the fuss was about.

>>29659500
Will we ever reach a point where those people who grew up with gen 1 decline in numbers? What will happen then?

>>29654142
Pokémon wouldn't be that liked had any of the following generations come first. First generation is objectively the best and the most original.

>>29659520
Pokemon Go's marketing tactics successfully led people to believe Gen 1 is the only one that matters, thus GameFreak has successfully bred another generation with a firm belief that Gen 1 is best Gen, and those people won't even bother playing RBY.

>>29659500
oh i 'member

>>29659577
>Most original
>Most of the Pokemon are based on animals

Gen. 1 is not that original. Calm down.

>>29659651
Friendly reminder that Go is NOT a real Pokemon game. It is Ingress with Pokemon characters, but it itself cannot be called a Pokemon game.

>>29659733
When you start the game and get all your first pokemon, they're all animals. Standard stuff. Lizard, turtle, dinosaur, mouse, etc. You then progress through the game and as you do, the creatures you encounter become progressively less realistic. Living boulders, magnets and the like. Most of the late-dex pokemon (Magneton, Porygon, Electrode, etc.) are objectmons.

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>>29648215
>not even the old artstyle can make Kommo-o look good
>there's people who will train one on their first run

>>29660203
>>not even the old artstyle can make Kommo-o look good
Because the old art was specifically designed for Charizard you moron.

>>29660228
Well, the Ohmura artstyle is also the one for Kommo-o and it still looks like an overdesigned crap.

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>>29660269
>overdesigned

>>29660269
Then what's your point