Alolan Raichu will dominate vgc

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>>29613184
Don't forget this nigga lending a hand

Yeah with a friend we theorized this thing would be everywhere. The closest thing to a counter we can think of is Alolan Marowak

>>29613208
Literally the second point he made.

>>29613208
Yeah, Tapu Koko is going to be the most popular of the guardians but Raichu can work with any of them.

>>29613184
Hope so. Cute Pokemon that are also strong Pokemon are the best Pokemon.

>>29613264
Well yeah, I'm just saying Koko will be the most common one for obvious reasons.

>>29613281
this so much

The Alolan Raichu has a new Ability, Surge Surfer, which no other Pokémon has previously had. With the Surge Surfer Ability, the Pokémon’s Speed will be doubled on Electric Terrain.

>>29613278
>Yeah, Tapu Koko is going to be the most popular of the guardians but Raichu can work with any of them.
>>29613184
>>benefits from every tapu terrain
What will grass do?

>>29613423
Reduces Earthquake and Bulldoze damage.

>>29613423
>What will grass do?
Effectively remove Raichu's weakness to earthquake, also free lefties recovery.

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>>29613184
>psychic/electric hits everything

I hope so. Raichu's been my favorite since I was a kid. I'm very happy its Alola form is looking like it will be good.

>>29613463
>surf
>any electric attack since he's part rock

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>>29613484
>any electric attack since he's part rock
>Krookodile
>part rock

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>>29613484
>surf
>any electric attack since he's part rock

The fuck is this guy talking about

>>29613511
Wait, fuck, I mixed him up with Tyranitar. Anyway, Surf still works.

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>>29613208
>Tapu Koko was designed to hard counter Darkrai and Smeargle in VGC

>>29613463
Fake Out then Wood Hammer from Tapu Bulu

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>>29613184
>implying this won't be a Ghost/Steel whose ability prevents the opponent from using Volt-Switch/Baton Pass/Parting Shot
Leave VGC to me.

>>29613281

This.

>>29613484

Daily reminder that we haven't seen Alolan Raichu learn Surf, and it very well may not.

>>29613671
Bullshit it won't, they gave Mimikyu Thunderbolt, they might as well throw in that one move.

>>29613671
Raichu can just as easily use HP Ice, Grass or Grass Knot

the real issue is that we don't know if it has any inclination to one attacking stat or if it will remain a shitty """"mixed"""" attacker

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>>29613552
Uh okay then what good is Raichu doing for you?

Why not just go straight to the bulu?

>>29613711
Psychic and Electric seem like typings that focus on Special Attack

>>29613728
Can't make a decision either way.

You forget that Raichu has 2 signature moves: Volt Tackle which is physical and makes contact, and Stoked Sparksurfer which seemingly does make contact, and it therefore likely to be physical. It wouldn't surprise me if it was physically inclined to take advantage of those moves.

>>29613184
Fairly sure it only works with electric terrain.

>>29613688

I'm only saying it's not guaranteed. Don't hype yourself up over something they haven't actually said.

>>29613711 has it right. I know my current special-attacker Raichu runs Grass Knot. Also, I'm pretty sure Alolan will have a special attacker spread, not mixed, due to the psychic type.

>>29613763
Well Stoked Sparksurfer could also be one of those weird contact special attacks.

>>29613763
>Stoked Sparksurfer which seemingly does make contact, and it therefore likely to be physical
Z-moves are both physical and special, depending on what move is used to run them.

>>29613184
HOO BOY GET READY FOR THE TAPUS OF HEALTHY METAGAME

>>29613781

>Electric Terrain boosts its speed and keeps it from sleeping and boosts Electric moves
>Misty Terrain prevents statuses
>Grassy Terrain weakens Ground attacks and gives free Leftovers recovery
>Psychic Terrain stops priority moves (like Sucker Punch) and boosts Psychic moves

Hope so. I've always loved Raichu but he never got any love.

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>>29613184
So Steelix is going for OU as Raichu counter?

>>29613910
Not on your life, pal

>>29613910
If he learns Surf, no

>>29613184
>>29613208
Yeah, these two with Politoed or P-Kyogre (when they allow it) will be amazing together.

I can also see Bulu and Ludicolo on those teams to.

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>>29613910
It's my time to shine

Question... excluding Lanturn, have other electric Pokémon with surf?

>>29614234
Heliolisk

>>29614234
Heliolisk and some event Pikachus

>>29614234
Pikachu

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>>29614098
MEGA NOT ALLOWED

itt: vgc nobodies incorrectly thinking a shitmon will be relevant

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Leave alolan raichu to me

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>>29614234
Raichu can, but only because of event Pikachu.

I wish it could be taught Surf, though. It looks so neat surfing on its tail. If Helioisk can learn Surf, why can't Raichu?

>>29613728
Access to freaking VOLT TACKLE.

For the record that thing is only 12% less damaging than Victini V create if electric terrain is on.

It's just pure wreckage.

>>29613463
>Raichu uses grass knot!
>It's super effective!
You DO realize it has coverage moves right?

>>29614370
Basilisks can run on water.

The only counter to this that I can think of would be Decidueye

>>29613278
I don't doubt it'll be ONE of the most popular but I'd say Tapu Lele is going to give it stiff competition.

For one thing the anti-priority is huge and actually negates Sucker Punch plus giving a damage boost to Psychic which lets things like Alakazam go nuts.

Seriously just look at this far as fast special attackers go.

Neutral 252 SpA Life Orb Alakazam Psychic vs. Neutral 252 HP / 4 SpD Snorlax in Grassy Terrain: 142-169 (53.1 - 63.2%)

A solid 2HKO with a bog standard spread on one of the bulkiest thing in the whole Alola dex. That is actually far more powerful than current Raichu with Thunder, LO + Elec Terrain and I think Raichu would need something like a base 110 s.atk to beat it.

Take a look at this too.

252+ SpA Exeggutor Leaf Storm vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Snorlax in Grassy Terrain: 163-193 (61 - 72.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Grassy Terrain recovery

That is just nuts in terms of pure damage. Tapu Bulu has the benefit of possibly the strongest special nuke in this format benefiting from it's terrain.

They're both things which can reasonably outspeed Alolan Raichu short of the thing getting something hillariously stupid like base 130 speed. Zam if your Psychic Terrain manages to overwrite Elec and Eggy if it gets it's TR up.

>>29614569
Hidden power ice is common on electric types to deal with ground and grass types.

>Guranteed to be on every team
You sure love your hyperboles OP.

>>29614571
The Zam calc should've read with Psychic Terrain, used Grass Terrain as a substitute for the calc but same point anyway.

>>29613588
>volt switch
nigga this thing is gonna eat an electric terrain powered Thunder from Tapu Koko/Raichu in rain and faint like a bitch
Also, muhmentum moves are not as frequent in VGC as in singles, that would not be that good of an ability

>>29614234
Stunfisk

>>29614534

I don't think that's the reason, considering that basilisks are only referenced in its English name.

I think it just learns Surf because it's in the Monster (Kaiju) Egg Group, and lots of Pokemon in that Egg Group learn Surf.

>>29613811
This. I'm gonna equip my Raichu with Volttackle and get the strongest Stocked Sparksurfer off of that.

>>29614571
>max HP no defense snorlax

You could at least make yourself look slightly more credible by using an actual EV spread instead of this biased garbage.

AV Metagross deals with it pretty well.
Bonus points if you pair it with a lightningrod mon.

Ill be just happy that something new and relevant could come out of this gen not to mention its nice to see the mostly forgotten Raichu get a bone thrown his way

>>29613671
You can easily just transfer a Surf Pikachu and just evolve it in Sun/Moon.

>>29617819
nigga raichu won worlds this year

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>>29617708
I gotchu fâm