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Lycanroc Midday destroys it while Bruxish, Tsareena and Tapu Lele/anyone that get's psychic terrain laugh it. Is there anything that saves it from dropping to it's fate of being pure shit?
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>>29607784
If those mons are easily countered/straight up bad, Smogonbirde might still live to see another meta.
Out of the three you mentioned, I imagine Lele will end up as the biggest threat.
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>>29607784
I don't think Tsareena will enjoy Flare Blitz, and I don't think Bruxish would like U-Turn. Nobody really likes being Will-o-Wisped when they come in.
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>>29607784
Talon's still decent; it's got great speed and good attack, it could probably hang in OU without Gale Wings.

I'm sure it'll see less use, but I doubt it'll drop a tier.
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>>29607784
Smogbird has super effective moves on bruxish, tsareena and tapu lele. it's usage should drop but i doubt it will disapear
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>>29607784
there will be more ways to deal with it but it will still be OU, especially since Bruxish is a one stage shitmon and Tsareena doesn't want to get burned or flare blitzed
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>>29607784
you wish. This bird will still be spammed by casuals
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>>29607837
It depends on whether or not Bruxish gets Aqua Jet. Tsareena I can't see really threatening Talonflame because of its typing and likely stat spread, but Tapu Lele is probably going to be the most troublesome for it.
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>>29607884
Bruxish does get Aqua Jet. They showed it in Tsareena's trailer
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WHY IS IT CALLED SMOGONBIRD
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we also don't know how these abilities will work with gale wings. the description on the official site is worded differently between all three of them, but bruxish's description says it prevents opponents from using priority moves that normally strike first. so it may not effect gale wings at all.
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>>29607784
Anyone who says Tsareena will be an hidrance to Talonflame is a moron on the level of the people who claimed Golduck would rise up as a Primal check
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>>29609923
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>>29607852
You mean neutral, Lele is not weak to Bug.
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>>29607784
You do realize Talonflame still has like 126 base speed right? That is more than enough to outspeed half the game even without investing in it properly.

It'll just U-Turn out or Flare Blitz your ass or heaven forbid...switch.
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>>29610083
About the only thing Tsareena can hinder is Pranksters, ESpeed and Sucker Punch.

Everything else is pointless.
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>>29610122
it's not even well represented there

whoever came up with the meme is just a retard
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>>29610148
Fairy doesn't resist bug anymore.
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>>29610443
Source: your ass?
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>>29610443
Sure, and it's now weak to Ghost to. It was revealed that there have been no changes done to the type chart (one of those hackers, his name is slipping me).
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>>29607827
This. Lele will be the only threat because she's a mythical that has good enough stats and coverage to handle a Talonflame. Bruxish has a type advantage, but doesn't exactly look powerful. Lycanroc Day probably could take it down easily but all you have to do is switch to a good counter, because Lycanroc likely doesn't have much coverage

And anyone who thinks using a pure grass type like Tsareena as a Talonflame counter is pretty dumb
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>>29610260
It's called Smogonbird because it's super strong and a staple on most Smogon OU teams ya dingus
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As long as it has priority Flying attacks, it will never leave OU. The arrival of a few new mons that might threaten it doesn't mean shit.
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