What a shitty decision, huh?

>>29601727
Unexpected, yes.

Shitty? Not necessarily.

They gave Croagunk an real interesting personality in this game.

not as shitty as having two mewtwos and pikachus
i'd take croagunk over more genwun/edgy teen pandering any day

Best 4th Gen mon on the roster

>>29601727
best addition other than Braixen. Pokken has my attention again.

>>29601727
Yeah, wasting space in two mewtwo and two pikachu was a pretty shitty decision

>>29601727
Croagunk, and by extension Toxicroak, are the best Gen 4 mons.

What a great decision.
This means support pokémon still have a chance to be playable.

Nope, I think he's a great choice. Very out of left field and has a ton of personality.

Much more interesting than half of the other roster choices.

>>29601769
Toxicroak would fit perfectly for exactly what croagunk is

>>29601773
Agreed. We don't need two Pikachus. I'm glad to see Croagunk. It's not Hawlucha, but it's the next best thing.

>>29601727
Wait... so can Croagunk use Croagunk? Is that weird?

>>29601852
except Croagunk is better

>>29601852
Croagunk has more appeal than Toxicroak, imo.

>>29601727

frog that isnt greninja, random not fully evolved pokemon?

its a bizarre choice to say the least.

it should have been toxicroak

>>29601727
Now gimme greninga. The frogman brothers.

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>>29601727
>tfw I fucking love both Toxicroak and Croagunk

>>29601995
Greninja is for weebs. Japs hate weebs.

>>29601995
It's not random. Brock had a Croagunk in the Annie Mae.

>Wii U Update with Darkrai/Croagunk/Scizor never

>>29601727
I really wish it was Toxicroak.

>>29601727
Are we gonna have a bad time?

>>29602182
Greninja is the most popular pokemon in japan.

>Six Gen 4 reps with Empoleon.
>More than Gen 1 if you don't count the 2nd Pika/Mewtwo.
>Still only one Gen 5 rep.

What the fuck.

God I hope this character is high tier. He looks so goddamn fun

I don't like croagunk's line but eh he's not unfitting. I'm more upset about two pikachus and two mewtwos

Imagine Mewtwo losing to a fucking Croagunk lmao what a dumb addition

>>29601727
nah mate 2 pikachus and 2 mewtwos was a bad decision. chandeulure was a bad decision. the roster seems haphazard and based on popularity rather than fighter prowess, but i d k lol

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>>29602656
>Imagine Mewtwo losing to a fucking Pikachu lmao what a dumb addition

>>29602446
Someone on the staff probably just likes gen 4. At least it's refreshing compared to the usual gen 1 favoritism.

Or are you one of those autists who thinks there needs to be an equal amount of Pokemon from each generation?

>>29601727
Dude fuck you to death Croagunk is one of the best adds yet
ALL I wished for when Pokken came out was surprising choices for playable Pokémon. I was dreading it'd turn into a genwun pander-bonanza and it absolutely has not. Lil frog bro here NOBODY EVER saw coming.

>>29602446
Why would they push the lowest performing generation? Merchandising-wise the series was at a low for gen V.

>>29601727
>tfw the best Sinnoh starter, Empoleon, pretty much confirmed by now
Where were you when Greninjafags got BTFO? Now they just need to replace the tumor that is Braixen with Delphox and it would be perfect.

>>29602446
Nobody outside your hugbox gives a shit about Gen 5. The sooner you accept this, the less retarded you'll sound next time.

>>29601727
>we could have had Greninja
>instead we got an irrelevant shitmon
This tremendous incompetence when it comes to deciding fighter picks is why Pokken is dying.

>>29603737
You should take your own advice buddy.

>>29603747
>we could have had Greninja
And thank fuck we didn't.

>>29601727
Needs more gens 5 and 6.Maybe like a Ferrothorn or a Tyrunt

>>29601727
>two pikachus
>two mewtwos
>charizard
>gardevoir
>braxian
All absolute shit
So many humanoid easymode copypaste shit

NO METAGROSS
>A FUCKING ROBOT SPIDER
NO TYRANTRUM
>A FUCKING TREX
NO AEGISLASH
>A FUCKING SWORD
NO GENESECT
>FUCKING CYBORG CANNON
NO HYDREIGON
>DRAGON WITH FACES FOR HANDS
NO ESCAVALIER
>A FLOATING BUG KNIGHT
NO COFAGRIGUS
>A SPOOKY GHOST COFFIN
NO ELECTRIVIRE
NO MAGMORTAR
>THESE FUCKERS WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER THAN LUCARISHI AND BLAZISHIT

B L U N D E R
O F
T H E
C E N T U R Y

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>>29603747
>wanting more greninja

why?

>>29601784
But Lucario exists.

>>29603766
so should you

>>29603719
It's not it matters. Greninja is still in Smash anyways. Empoleon will never reach his level.

>>29603766
>unovabortion is presented with literal objective facts
>NO U XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

Every time.

>>29603878
>wanting all those edgemons
You seem to have a terminal case of shit taste. And most people don't care about any Pokémon from Gen 5.

>>29603994
Autism

>>29603918
thats the problem

Besides Chandelure, it's the only interesting one.

>>29604061
What a fantastic argument.

>>29603878
Genesect and is this only one that could add anything of worth to this. Pretty much all the other ones would be clones of one of the current roster.

>>29601727
I'm hype. Why not? Stats don't matter in this game so give some NFEs some glory.
I'm only sad it seems to be impossible to put in a lot more characters. I know everyone says it, but the game is really bare - it's Pokemon; the characters are what give it life so it needs as many as possible. If they're going NFEs as well they should have had:
>Meowth
>Hawlucha instead of Librechu
>Deoxys instead of Shadow Mewtwo
>Incineroar to match Machamp
>A proper Water Pokemon, I don't know, fucking Starmie
>Something goofy like Ampharos
>Another edgy dragon like Haxorus
>Fucking Heracross

I don't get why they didn't just lift movesets from Tekken and re-skin them. It would have made so much sense, saved so much time and no one would have been against it. Instead they have to spend fucking eons making each individual character.

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>>29604050
Shit the hell up you gay piece of shit faggot.

>>29604128
Stop being autistic anon.

>>29604173
>that filename
Terminal case of shit taste is right, you want Mega Dragonite.

>>29604165
>The only person ever on /vp/ who as given all good ideas and not been a cunt about it
More people need to be like you

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>>29604215
So what if I do? It doesn't change the fact that you are a gay ass nu-male faggot that likes shit like braxien and wrestle pikachu.

>>29604228
>good ideas
>Ampharos
>Heracross

>>29604266
>Not likeing heracross one of the only cool gen 2 pokemon
When I thought there was a limit to how much shit taste a person can have you went even further beyond.

>>29604304
Heracross is alright, but Scizor is better than it in every way.

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>>29604304
>>29604327

>>29602343
And Pokken is the least popular pokemon game. What's your point?

>>29604605
>what is the entirety of Gen 5?

>>29604605
Are you retarded anon?

>>29604605
you misspelled pokemon picross

>>29604678
Are you retarded anon?

>>29604708
Are you retarded anon?

>>29604753
Are you retarded anon?

>>29601727


Who thought Empoleonfags would be this salty?

I dind't even know Empoleon had this many fans.

>>29604931
well when your other choices are a fire fighter or something that gives ice types purpose, it's kinda the best of the three

>>29604931
Empoleon was the most popular Gen 4 starter IIRC

>>29601850
What is his personality? I've never even looked into this series

>>29605086
Infernape was easily the most popular

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>>29605121

He's a cheeky cunt.

>>29604931
Someone said htere was a file for Croagunk in the datamine too but they thought it was an update to the assist.

>>29604165
I was pissed since Croagunk is acting more like a Heel. If Incineroar were going to be in, they would have saved that personality for him. Then again, Weavile has a bit of it too.

>>29605121
He's Proud of his Power and doesn't afraid of anything.

So does this please the retards who want joke characters like Smash 4's Wii Fit Trainer, King Dedede, Wario etc?

Obviously they have no place in a cool and serious game like Pokkén but if Croagunk can get joke-loving dumbasses to shut up it'd be good for one thing at least.

>>29605121
In the anime, his shtick is creeping the hell out of everyone by standing perfectly still while making a weird groaning noise, but being badass as fuck whenever he takes action. There were a few episodes where he noticed Team Rocket, walked off, thrwarted them on his own before they could do anything, then walked back as if nothing had happened. He also liked to punch Brock for hitting on chicks.

In Pokken, he's much sillier, constantly posing after attacks and dropping comically oversized projectiles on the opponent.

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This entire game is composed of shitty decisions.

Cartoons with slapped on shitty fur textures for "REALISM"? Check.

Fucking horrific Foodfight quality mocap that's unbearable to watch? Check.

This game belongs in the dumpster.

>>29605219
https://www.reddit.com/r/PokkenGame/comments/4o5mnh/some_info_about_file_differences_in_the_new_13/

source btw

>>29604605
Why are you comparing a fighting game to a top selling rpg?

Bw isn't going to get much, get over it. Greninja has overtaken Pikachu as top pokemon in japan. Idc, he looks cool.

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>>29605263
>dedede
>Wario
>joke characters

>>29605263
>wii fit trainer, king dedede, and wario are joke characters
>implying they're not the best characters in the game
maybe youd be better at harvest moon than fighting games

>>29604678
Actually, nips like gen 5 and have a sort of hatred towards people who fap to gen 2.

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>>29605263
>cool and serious game like Pokkén

>>29601727
Why is it a speed character? It has the lowest base speed of any playable pokemon in the game.

>not Toxicroak
if I cared about this game I'd be pissed

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>>29605263
>cool and serious game like Pokkén

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What stupid gimmicky pokemon do you guys want? Shuckle, wobbefet, or ditto would be great.

>>29605293
>a first-generation fighter that somehow manages to be more balanced than literally all the xth-gen big-name fighters is composed of shitty decisions
sometimes the urge to bite is just too strong

Why's it croagunk and not toxicroak? And what happened to empoleon? They blew this game anyway.

>>29605830
Just want jigglypuff

>>29601727
>one of my top 10 mons gets added
BASED

Lets have less complaining and more discussion. Who do you want the last slot to be, or do you think theyll add another row and make the portraits smaller like smash did?

>>29606198
>Who do you want the last slot to be
Another Lucario facing the opposite direction.

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>>29604157
I dunno. I can see aegislash having some sort of Stance mechanic like some of the Tekken fighters where he can play it safe in Shield Forme where he has a permanent attack reduction or try to overpower in sword form where he has a permanent defense reduction.

In all honesty I just want a Rock and Normal type represented so all 18 current types are on the roster.

>>29605139
I don't think the opinions of ten-year-olds count.

>>29606198
last slot literally has to be empoleon
there is no discussion

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>>29606401
Luwario

>>29605772
I guess anything that makes it to EVO is serious stuff only.

>>29605369
[citation needed]

>>29605293
>>29605831
Im honestly wondering how in the fuck you Mocap a Quadrapedal Fighter.

>>29601931
Yes he can.

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>STILL no breloom

funny thing is

>nobody saw it coming
>yet it was in the datamine all along
>"but it's definitely an assist update guys let's ignore it"

somewhere in the game, Croagunk is laughing

>>29601931
no, because part of croagunk's schtick is creating clones of himself that attack for him
letting croagunk use a croagunk support is actually kind of neat fridge genius

Croagunk really? awesome. I might actually buy this now.

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>>29607312
You can use 2 croagunks with croagunk assists and Burst croagunk horde move.

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>>29607312
not to mention he can go

SO DESU NE

>>29601727
Literally impossible to waste a space better than they have.

You can give the decision to any anon to have a pokemon put in and it wouldn't have been squandered that hard.

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>>29607312
>>29607339
>mfw Croagunk using Croagunk with Croagunks

>>29605338
>dumb fat penguin
>epic fart man
>serious

>>29603747
>Croagunk
>irrelevant

I stopped playing pokken like 2 weeks after I got it on release day.
Do you have to buy these new characters? How much?

>>29606198
It will prolly be Empoleon, right?

If they'll add more in the future:

Gen III:
>Ludicolo
>Mawile

Gen V:
>Cofagrigus
>Mienshao

Gen VI:
>Greninja
>Hawlucha

Gen VII:
>Incineroar
>Decidueye

>>29607556
>Gen V
doubt it

>>29601727
Aw what?

Croagunk is my bro, but how come they decided to make him the Luigi of Pokemon?

That face says "snide," not "goofy Japanese midget."

>>29608567
I think they made him the Wario of Pokemon, judging from the footage.

>>29605369
>Actually, nips like gen 5 and have a sort of hatred towards people who fap to gen 2.
I would love a source for this to laugh at. If this really is true, than Japs are absolutely based!

>>29605434
>Scizor
>Ability: Technician

>Scizor in Pokken
>Power Type

When are you going to learn? The mainline Pokemon games mean absolutely nothing to Pokken. Not a single thing.

>>29601816
This. The only thing that could possibly be better is having an Eeveelution playable, which is totally possible now that Croagunk being both a fighter and an assist has reopened the doors for any 'mons to get in.

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>>29601727

>>29601816
>>29609327
*Otherwise, having not only one of the Fennekin line, but BRAIXEN playable was by far the best surprise in the game. I'm actually quite happy with the roster as-is. We definitely need more modes though.

>>29609353
Shitty furbait was not a pleasant surprise. NFEs were a fucking mistake.

>>29610628
Why do you hate NFEs so much? They don't get enough love. They're literally wasted slots, wasted designs in the main games because they're unusable. Base/baby Pokemon are cute enough to get merch of but guys like Charmeleon, Dewott and Ivysaur? Forgotten. Give them a chance.

>>29601727
>one of my favorites made it in
WHY THE FUCK WASN'T I TOLD I'M FREAKING OUT WITH HAPPINESS RIGHT NOW.
Fags don't realize how popular Croagunk is as the original fighting version of Pikachu

Could have been better, to be quite honest. Why can't they actually use fighting pokémon instead of random pokémon

>>29608468
Chandelure is awesome enough.

>>29610779
I think in one interview it was mentioned they were explicitly avoiding the "Fighting type" pokemon to use more fun and creative pokemon over only humanoids.

Probably why we got chandelure, suicune, and Gengar.

>>29610779
Oh look, another fucking retard who didn't even buy the game.

If the roster was 90% Fighting type Pokemon it'd be boring. There is no one alive whose favourite Pokemon is Hitmonchan, Hitmonlee or Hitmontop. It's a fucking miracle Machamp got in because no one likes big naked blue dudes. These are all shitmons - they're shit design wise, shit competitively and have absolutely nothing unique to offer. Pokemon like Zangoose, Diggersby, Volbeat and Illumise...these are failed Pokemon. They failed to live up to what Pokemon can potentially become, so proper Pokemon like Pikachu, Charizard, Gengar and Scizor are brought in to pick up the slack because they have very strong designs, are memorable and unique and are instantly recognizable among all the random monster catching chink franchises.

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>>29610884
Machamp was even one of the first pokemon revealed. I think he and Lucario were the first two shown in official trailers.

Of course 90% of underages whine "Roster isnt all fighting types in a fighting game" every time.

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>>29610702
At least someones Are FAR MILES BETTER than they evolutions, Pic realeted too

>>29610779
>Why can't they actually use fighting pokémon instead of random pokémon
>Croagunk is part Fighting

>>29610991
>he doesn't know about the Blaziken vs. Lucario footage shown months before the game was announced

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>>29607339
>Meloetta is realeased before Empoleon

so what moves does Croagunk know in Pokken?

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where the fuck is heracross?

With this and potentially Empoleon still showing up that is a lot of gen IV love. With 6 Pokemon from gen IV. Second only to gen I in representation.

>>29611472
how does it make you feel?

Are they going to be revealing characters on a quicker basis?

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>>29603747
>one of the most merchandised Pokemon of all time
>gen 4 remakes hinted at everywhere
>moving on from 6 which we all know is going to be buried under the rug faster than gen 5 was
>not loving the 4chan meme frog
>wanting one of the only two Pokemon that isn't in Pokken but is in Smash
fuck I took bait

>>29604228
stop replying to yourself

>>29605293
>why does a franchise try different artstyles for spinoffs?
anon, you're just a bitter loser who didn't get his favorites in the game

>>29610884

Machamp is what people think about when pure fighting types are concerned, what are you talking about.

Plus it's a trade evo, which have high chances of getting in.

>>29609327
actually, the eevee line is the last thing I want added.
I'm so fucking tired of furries sucking their dicks because the have a Digimon's evolution tree

>>29604690
Gen V gets cucked in Pokken and gen vi games. That should be an indicator

>>29612005
Did you even read the post you're replying to? Or are you just that desperate to shit on Gen 5?

>>29609285
Not sure about gen 5 but the most elitist and closest thing to genwunners in Japan are the ones that love gen 2 because muh kanto+johto with the most older good looking engine

>>29610991
>Machamp was even one of the first pokemon revealed
It was like the fourth or fifth, the first being Lucario and Blaziken, then Pikachu and Charizard.
>Of course 90% of underages whine "Roster isn't all fighting types in a fighting game" every time.
Don't know what your point is here but I stand by the fact that 90% of Fighting types are boring and shit. That's why you never knew anybody who liked a Fighting type as their favourite when you were a kid.

>>29611979
>Machamp is what people think about when pure fighting types are concerned
Well evidently fucking not since people have been talking about Hitmons since day one. They have said in interviews that they're trying to avoid a lot of Fighting types so Machamp is probably just there as the poster boy for that type so they can excuse themselves from having to put in any more just based on being that type.
>Plus it's a trade evo, which have high chances of getting in.
I...what? I'm sorry, what?
I'm curious, do you have to try to be this retarded or does it just come naturally? Could you go get your mother to read the next part of this post:
Hey Anon's mother nice to see you again, just wanted to let you know that your son is being a retard and you've failed at parenting. I recommend you send him back to special needs school before he hurts himself.

>>29612953
my god, Chris Chan browses /vp/

>>29612953
Hard to get shit like Scizor and Gengar got in