For all the shit Ash gets for losing Pokemon Leagues, his god

>>29589545
Replace Krook with Snorlax and you might have something there.

>>29589545
Except Ash will never, ever use more than two of those Pokemon at any one time.

>>29589545
Ash is that guy who could run a godtier team but then slaps Rain Dance and HP Fire together in the same mon, with HP fire being the only attacking move. So no, Ash would never beat Red, or even Brock, Misty, Sabrina and many other gym leaders he never won in fair combat.

>>29589573

Krook is as powerful as Snorlax, it took down Iris' Dragonite (which was stupid powerful) and provides better coverage against Red's Psychic-types.

>>29589545
Red from Adventures would absolutely destroy him.

>>29589545
Ash Greninja couldn't even beat Alain's MegazardX. You think he could beat one that beat a fucking Mewtwo? And beat that Mewtwo too?

>>29589612

That's why it's his "God Team"

God doesn't exist

>>29589785

It is just FR/LG Mewtwo. It was nothing special if it lost to a Megazard X

Ash was actually killed by G1 Mewtwo in the first movie.

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>>29589790
Arceus

>>29589720
>Ash goes back to kanto and sweeps them all with just Pikachu

>>29589790
>tips fedora

>>29589816
Origins Mewtwo severly injured Green. He's no pushover.

And how does Ash getting killed prove his pokemon could beat Red's mewtwo in a battle? Especially with other legendaries and a mega to back it up?

>>29590002

Pikachu alone barbeques all three birds and Charizard into kung pao chicken and Greninja/Krookodile laugh at Mewtwo's Psychic attacks.

None of Red's other shit - Lapras, Jolteon, Dodrio - can stand against Ash's team. Only Snorlax is a threat and that gets anal blasted by Infernape.

>>29589545
To be fair, a think Red's Mewtwo or Charizard alone can sweep through his whole team. Both of those were pretty overpowered.

>>29589785
>Ash Greninja couldn't even beat Alain's MegazardX.
It could, it just couldn't beat the executives. Note how everything before and after the battle plays out pretty much the same as if Ash had won.

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>>29590097
>Pikachu alone barbeques all three birds and Charizard into kung pao chicken
>Couldn't even beat Alain BURASTO BAAN before it mega evolved

kek

Alain's Megazard has plot armor, Red's doesn't.

>>29590302
>Survives Green's Blastoise Hydro pump and KOs it with Fire blast
>No plot armor

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>There are people who still believe in Ash after he lost to a Fire type with a Greninja

>>29589545
Chaizard jobs all the fucking time in high level battles, it only knows how to make a good looking fight but that's it.

>>29590360
gen 1 fire spin was OP

>>29590368
Anime isn't the same as the games. They even have their own names as cries.

>>29589720
>Ash is that guy who could run a godtier team but then slaps Rain Dance and HP Fire together in the same mon

That's not true though, he knows teambuilding, look at how he went for a sleeptalk guts megahorn on Darkrai on purpose for example.
Ash's main problem is that writers hate accomplishment so no matter how gud he gets he'll never win the league.

>>29591162
>english dub

Kys

>>29589545
Red
>Has a based Charizard
>Beat the E4 and beat a fucking Champion
>Caught all the Pokemon, that includes the LEGENDARY Birds
>Caught a fucking Mewtwo

Ash
>Has trouble catching a fucking Pidove
>Beat Articuno, and pretty much got his Assh handed to him by the other Birds, multiple times
>Never even came close to beating an E4, even with his SSJ memefrog

Ash can NEVER beat any version of Red.

>>29591291
No, they do that in the Japanese version too.

Maybe you should consider kys.

>>29591342
Nah, instead he was close to beating a Champion. And Zapdos got fucking rekt by Noivern

Charizard was nerfed in BW. He's not as strong anymore.

Snorlax also doesn't work with Ash's new battling style from XY onward. See: Goodra, he can't use tanks well.

But Red has Magazard which beats Greninja. And Since Red isn't a retard it would beat sceptile and do serious damage to another Mon before fainting

>>29591366
No they don't they usually use just a little part of its name as a cry. Not their while name. Hawlucha don't go around saying "Luchabull" only shit like "Lucha" and "chaba", Gekkouga don't say "Gekkouga", it's just says "Ko" or "koga". And a big part of the pokemon doesn't even use sounds from their name as a cry like Charizard (Lizardon) or Noivern (Onvern)

Literally kill yourself you ignorant retard.

>>29591552
>Red's Megazard being even close Alan's Megazard's powerlevel

Now this is delusion

>>29591562
Whole*

>>29591505
>instead he was close to beating a Champion
When? Against Diantha? He just managed to knock Gardevoir on ground ONCE. He was no where near close.

>And Zapdos got fucking rekt by Noivern
Sure he did. That's why it ran away in terror, right?

>>29591614
Did you even watch any of the episodes?

>>29591577
No, it's better than Alain's Megazard.

>Alain's Megazard got his ass handed to him by Groudon
>Red's Megazard actually beat Mewtwo

>Alain's Megazard got his ass handed to him by an E4's Blastoise
>Red's Charizard actually beat the Champion's Blastoise

Red is the better trainer, but still a beta kissless virgin, unlike Ash.

>>29591614
>Sure he did. That's why it ran away in terror, right?

Are you retarded or some shit? What does this have to do with the context of the episode? Noivern was faster and smarter able to outsmart Zapdos and hit it with boomburst making hitting hard as fuck and making it fly into a stone piller than falling and screaming. After that TR shit happened. Is this the new /vp/? Full of underage retards?

>>29591653
>not seeing the difference between power levels between the two anime.

Kyogre and groudon literall created nuke sized explosion. All Mewtwo did was able to use some psychic energy which still wasn't even close to the movie mewtwo. Are you actually this fucking retarded?

>>29591562
>Luchabull can say Lucha or Chabull.
>Can't say it's name
The dub splits the names up as well. Dub Pikachu has a little more variety then just "Pikachu"

Heck most of Ash's Kalos team uses their species names.

I'm also fairly certain I remember the goop dragon saying full "Numelgon"s every now and then.

>>29591725
Pikachu use the japanese voice you retarded chucklefuck. And numelgon says shit like "numa" and shit. It has never said its whole name.

Ash is incompetent, are you all forgetting his unova experience? Red would shit on 10 year old immortal baby.

>>29591645
Admittedly, no. I did look up the fights you mentioned just now.
Ash's Greninja really only got 2 hits on Gardevoir. There was no sign of it being even being weakened.

>>29591681

As for the Zapdos, three different Ash's Pokemon battled it, and they did get in a few hits, but even then, by the end of it all, the Zapdos was still doing great. You seem to think getting in a few hits is somehow means Ash won. That's not how it works.

Why do Ashfags still insist he's a better trainer than Red? Red is considered a champion level npc who can only be beaten by the player. Now look at how Ash has faired against just e4 trainers. Exactly. Either way, there's no way for them to ever clash because they can't occupy the same space given they are counterparts for god sakes.

>>29591725
None of Ash's team use their whole name as their cry

Luchabull says "Lucha or "chaba"

Gekkouga says "Koga" or "ko"

Onvern literally just screams shit you can't put into words

Fiarrow also screams shit hard to put into words

Numelgon say shit like "nume"

BURASTO BAAN

>>29591780
You seem to think Noivern clealry being on top means Ash got means he got btfo

Diantha literally says that if that attack would have hit she would have lost. Are you retarded? Ash-greninja overpowered her.

>>29589790
>tips fedora

>>29591825
Fuck, meant
>means Ash got btfo*

>>29591785
It's called "coping with the fact that they're watching a commercial ad for children".

>>29591865
>says this while playing a game for kids

>inb4 b-b-but it's for grown ups too

>>29591562
Noivern does use parts of its own name for its cry (it says "On" and "Ban" a lot). It's really just Charizard, out of the main characters' Pokemon, and that's cause he has had very similar sounds since the beginning of the series (although Ash's and Alan's Charizard have different VAs). Every one of Alain's Pokemon besides Charizard, all of Ash's Pokemon, all of Clemont's Pokemon (and by extension Manon's Chespin), Dedenne, and all of Serena's Pokemon say their names as cries in the Japanese version. Only other exception would be Squishy, but that's for a better reason.

>>29591562
yeah and bulbasaur says shit like "bulba" in the dub

>>29591785
Pretty simple to understand if you're not retarded. Red's universe is easy a fuck with everything, even legendaries are unerpowered compared to Ash's universe which everything is overpowered as fuck and there's a lot more challanges. It's retarded to compare them when they play by different universes but Red is underpowered and weaker compared to Ash for the single fact that Ash's universe makes him way more overpowered than Red.

>>29591915
But they don't use their name. They barely use small parts of their name. It doesn't sound fucking retarded like the english dubs and actually makes the insperation for the their names a lot more realistic.

>>29591709
And now you're just being ridiculous. Just because Mewtwo didn't have more "explosive" moves doesn't mean his moves were weaker.

>>29591934
It says bulbasaur as well you retard

>>29591896
Even if the games are for kids, there is more you can get out of the games than the anime. You can raise your own team, train them in many different ways, meet ppl at events like Vgc or battle online against others, etc. meanwhile with the anime, you go through the same routine of Ash resetting himself and not advancing as a character.

>>29591944
Nice head cannon retard.

>>29591825
yeah and the attack didn't hit because she dodged it. of course sitting there and getting hit would have you get beat.

even if he did win against gardevoir, beating only one of her pokemon doesn't constitute as beating a champion.

>>29591986
Yea, it does. It's moves cover a lot less area and is clearly a lot weaker. Mewtwo was underpowered as fuck, or more realistic power compared to the games. Origin made its power make sense compare to its BST. Stronger but lot extremely strong. This is not the case for the anime. The bigger legendaries in the anime would have 255 in literally every stat.

>>29591992
it says "bulba" and "saur" separately as well you retard

>>29592032
And its whole fucking name. Aside from pokachu they NEVER do that in the japanese ver.

>>29592064
>They never do that, except when they do.

>>29592027
And that 255 BST Legendary couldn't OHKO a Charizard with a Ground-type move. A fucking Charizard. Then was beaten by a SINGLE move.
Compared to Origins Mewtwo, who swept through the fucking Champion's team, which included a Legendary.
Mewtwo wasn't underpowered. Red was overpowered.
If you're going to argue, at least don't bring your head canon into it.

>>29591999
It's a kids game. Get over it. There's a reason why /vp/ is 80% underage garbage. The anime has some great animation, good OST, emotional moments etc

>>29592019
If you're able to btfo a Champion's ace and as Ash did, was able to fight equally while slowely overpowering it's close not "not even close to beating an elite 4". Espacially since the anime makes the powerlevel between elite 4 and champion huge.

>>29592098
>they never do that aside from one fucking pokemon that is the mascot of the franchise

>>29592027
Nice headcanon retard.

>>29592131
I think siebold is stronger than diantha desu. she's a joke. I bet the other E4s just didn't want to be champion, or felt bad for her. all her gardevoir did was pathetic little shadowballs, and siebold did fucking nukes with dragon pulse.

>>29592064
I swear to gucciness I've heard greninja say "gekkouga" fully before

>>29592110
>beaten by a single fucking moves

Not it wasn't, are whine about headcanons. Hypocritical retard.

>Charizard literally dies from that one attack
>hurr it didn't do anything durr

And if you compare am movie mewtwo literally able to destroy the world and origin mewtwo able to sweep a kid's team it's retarded to say it wasn't underpowered as fuck. Literally your garbage headcannon makes no sense.

>>29592176
>using in game logic

Opinion goes to the trash

And it has never said gekkouga.

>>29592218
Are = and*

>>29592151
>>29592176
I'd say Greninja and Goodra have some that are, at best, up to interpretation. I've heard Nu-something-gon and what's either Gekkouga, Koukkouga, or Gekkoukou.

And also, being the mascot doesn't make something a less important point, if anything it makes it a more important point. Pikachu is the archetypal anime pokemon, because it's the mascot. And it uses it's full name sometimes.

>>29592218
>muh kid
Said kid is the champion and one of the strongest trainers in the world.
>are whine about headcanons
What did it mean by this?


Fuck off ashnime retard.

>>29592176
>I bet the other E4s just didn't want to be champion

Even jokingly considering even Cynthia gets to roam between leagues? I really doubt Diantha got pity, considering E4/Champs have insane powerlevels in the anime. People always like to forget Paul, who went full Smogon on Cynthia's Garchomp, got 6-0'd with the dragon still ready for more.

>>29592265
Gekkouga never says "ge".

And yes it does. It even says fucking pikachu in the games. Its name are supposes to be spammed into our minds so we never forget it.

>>29592236
I never used in game logic. I'm just saying that IN THE ANIME siebold's blastiose looked to have a ton more power than diantha's gardevoir

>>29592270
Lmao, so you got nothing? You can only repeat garbage you have already said like a parrot and ignoring reading the thread >>29592256


Maybe next time kid. I beag you don't even know how the buzzwords ashnime came to be.

>>29592218
>Not it wasn't, are whine about headcanons. Hypocritical retard.
Yes he was. Watch the fight again. The only hit it got was a Dragon Ascent and that was it.

>Charizard literally dies from that one attack
It didn't even faint. It was still in its Mega form.

>mewtwo literally able to destroy the world
And was almost killed by Team fucking Rocket.

Basically, your argument here is that EVERYONE in the ashnime is stronger than everyone in Origins, because of "the difference in power level". That's a new level of autism.

>>29592176
Siebold's Blastoise can make all the nukes it wants, Diantha's Gardevoir is shown to be good with teleporting to dodge, and has a moonblast so strong it can one shot Wikstrom's mega-Scizor.

>>29592336
Bet*

>>29592336
>Maybe next time kid
Literal cringeworthy edge.

Are all ashnime faggots this braindead?

>>29592303
It does say Ge, you can argue over whether it says the full Gekkouga or not. But it does say Ge.

I could tell you when if you damn well want.

>>29592383
yes

>>29592349
I must have missed that one. did she fight him in a movie?

>>29591825
I went ahead and actually watch 2 episodes of Ashnime for this.

When the battle ended, Diantha's Gardevoir was standing there, completely fine. Doesn't matter what "could've" happened.

And Noivern got one hit on Zapdos, using a strategy Zapdos didn't understand. It wouldn't work twice, and that one attack barely even fazed it.

>>29592347
>Mega Charizard X didn't hit it
>A whole fucking primal kyogre didn't hit
>Kyogre didn't fucking hit it in the beginning and literally froze it

Jesus you're retarded. Maybe watch it again next time kid.

>using super weapons designed to kill mewtwo makes it weaker

You got nothing, only headcannon bullshit that they're equally strong when any fucking retard understand that the powerlevels between the universes is huge. It doesn't make Red or Mewtwo weak. It just means they simply aren't able to achieve anime powerlevel and if it was the anime universe they would be a whole lot more powerful simply for being there.

>>29591562
At least OS Charizard roars "RIZAAAAAAAADON" in both english and Japanese, just masked to sound animalistic enough

>>29592423
Opening to the Diancie movie. There may have been more to the fight before the mega-evolving that it shows, but it doesn't look like it.

>>29592431
>greninja is faster and literally destroys anything Gardevoir throws at it while getting hits on it

>literally thrown into a cliff wall and screaming and falling
>barely fazzed

Jesus, pathetic. Bullshitting doesn't win you arguments kid. And I also guess you watched the garbage dub?

>>29592433
Ashnime Mewtwo gets his ass kicked
>"It's not not weak! The opponent was just stronger!"

Origins Mewtwo gets his ass kicked
>"The Mewtwo was just weak! The one defeating him wasn't strong!"

Fuck off and to Ash. That's the only thing you seem to be able to do.

>>29592536
>Fuck off and to Ash

What did the kid mean by this?

Face it, you got nothing. Just buzzwords. Any retard can't tell the power difference. One moves a whole lake under a mountain. The other wasn't able to OHKO a mega.

>>29592586
>Instead of thinking he wasn't able to OHKO a mega because the mega was overpower, let's just assume the mega was a piece of shit
Why is /vp/ filled with so many underaged fags?

>>29592586
>>Fuck off and to Ash
And fap* to Ash. Thought you would understand, because that seems to be your favorite thing to do.

>One moves a whole lake under a mountain
Yet gets his ass kicked by humans. Not even from strong Pokemon, no. Just fucking humans.
>using super weapons designed to kill mewtwo makes it weaker
But they're still just a bunch of robots. If this guy can "destroy the world" then they shouldn't be a problem to it.
All ashnime Mewtwo ever did was teleport something. He didn't win a single fucking battle.

You're the one who's got nothing. All you're doing is saying that "ashnime in general is strong, because I say so". You're haven't given me one good reason to believe Origins Mewtwo is weaker. All you're doing is repeating "ashnime is stronger".

>>29592769
>mewtwo didn't win a single battle
thats because anyone he seriously fought got bodied so badly it couldn't even be called a battle LMAO

>>29592769

Not him, but.

>Yet gets his ass kicked by humans. Not even from strong Pokemon, no. Just fucking humans.

Did I miss a movie? Because in the first one only Mew could actually get close to Mewtwo without getting sent flying. Not to mention it mindbroke at least one person and caused a storm just from twirling its hands.

Orgins Mewtwo fucked up Red's team good, but so did Giovanni's Nidoqueen and Rhydon. What did it do besides rough Red and Green up?

>>29592695
>mega uses a fire blast barely able to break a stone
>hurr the mega is able to destroy whole mountains

Can't you see how retarded your logic is? Are you this fucking blind? Fucking kids self inserting into Red.

>>29592769
>machines Giovanni spent a fortune in is humans

Grasping straws now aren't you?

I have given you plenty of reasons, and the biggest of them all is that origin mewtwo is shown not being able to create a fraction of the destruction the anime legendaries can. You ignoring what I'm saying doesn't make it any less true retard.

>>29592914
>origins mewtwo sweeps two champions
Hur dur he's weak
>movie mewtwo gets btfo'd by TR jobbers
Wow s-so stronk!

Are you mentally handicapped?

>>29592906
He's talking about Mewtwo returns when Giovanni catch the clone pokemon and threatens to kill them unless Mewtwo steps into a machine that Giovanni has spent a fortune on specifically made to hold mewtwo which in the end mewtwo still was able to break and then move a whole fucking lake under a mountain.

It had nothing to do with mewtwo's powerlevel and more Giovanni being smart and target the things mewtwo hels dear to itself and use it as leverage.

https://youtu.be/dFjg3Iu7wpI

>>29589785
If type advantages were relevant to the people making the anime at all, Ash-Greninja would have never gotten past Mega Sceptile.

>>29592955
So you got nothing? Did you even watch mewtwo returns? Do see that I'm not the only one seeing how retarded you are?

You literally only got bullshit left. Just give up. You embarress yourself kid.

>>29592990
I mean, if we're going to use game logic. Sceptile was underleveled compared to Greninja. Sceptile spammed leaf storm even before greninja was sent in on pikachu lowering its sp atk while only have two leaf storms being able to hit Ash-greninja while it was hit several times with aerial ace from a 145 base attack while being extremely fragile.

>>29592845
>thats because anyone he seriously fought got bodied so badly it couldn't even be called a battle LMAO
And that was Ash.

>>29592906
Not a movie, a special. Mewtwo gets almost gets killed by Giovanni's machines.

>so did Giovanni's Nidoqueen and Rhydon
Red had a new team this time around. He uses Gengar, Lapras and Articuno. Assuming he specifically changed his team, I would guess that mean it was stronger than his previous team.

>>29592914
>>machines Giovanni spent a fortune in is humans
That automatically makes them strong enough to beat someone "who can destroy the world"?
Just because Giovanni made those machines to beat Mewtwo doesn't mean they should.
Where were these machines during BW. Would've helped him out a lot.

>>29593013
Did you watch origins?
Both Red and Blue defeated Giovanni with their pre-champion teams, and movie mewtwo was almost defeated by Giovanni, while origins mewtwo swept through both post-champion teams and would've defeated red had it not been for the plot armor of edgyzard.

>>29592914
>biggest of them all is that origin mewtwo is shown not being able to create a fraction of the destruction the anime legendaries can
That's because it uses Psychic. Psychic doesn't cause explosion, but is pretty damn strong. How is it so hard to understand.

>>29593088
You're literally saying that Mewtwo being tricked into a machine that was literally made to hold mewtwo and still not able to is making mewtwo the same tier as origin mewtwo? Even though the plot of the whole fucking first movie was it destroying the world? How fucking retarded are you? Why the fuck would they use that machine BW? What fucking mewtwo was there that they could trick into going into by itself? Don't you have any self awerness you retarded kid?

Jesus christ I'm tired of neo /vp/ with garbage retarded posters like you.

>>29593088
>I would guess that mean it was stronger than his previous team.

There's still the issue that Green somehow escaped a near bloodthirsty psychic that was portrayed in Origins. I'm not doubting that either version is powerful, but if they wanted to make them the same, Origins should have had more 'MIND CRUSH' to their version. Or something besides just beating up pokemon very well.

>>29593115
How was it defeated by Giovanni? Giovanni didn't use his fucking pokemln. He literally said he would kill mewtwo's clone family unless he walked into a machine giovanni spent a fortune on that was specifically made to hold mewtwo.

How the fuck can you think both scenerios are even close to comparable? Fucking retard

>>29593191
Origins mewtwo wasn't bloodthirsty, you imbecile, it wanted to be left alone because it was too powerful.

>>29593148
Mewtwo in the movie literally also used psychic and was able to destroy the world using it you massive moron.

>>29593241
>He paid a fortune so that means it was super powerful

Are you underage?

>>29589545
>Red
>Pokemon Origins
>team

He had a Charizard he over-leveled and 5 useless shitmons that die in one hit so he can level up Charizard more.

>>29593247
Okay, bloodthirsty was too strong, but when Fuji described it they made it sound more dangerous and uncontrollable.

>>29593260
>Making shit up: The post

>>29593191
>There's still the issue that Green somehow escaped a near bloodthirsty psychic that was portrayed in Origins
Mewtwo used Psychic to throw Blastoise on Green, which heavily injured him. Blastoise didn't faint. Green did. I assume Blastoise just took Green and fled.

>>29593266
Yea, that exactly what it means. It means he had to do the research and use extremely expensive technology that was powerfull enough to hold mewtwo. Are seriously this retarded?

>>29593286
Even if completely untouched, Articuno had to be at least lv 50.

>>29593289
THAT WAS THE WHOLE PLOT OF MOVIE 1 YOU CUNTTARD

>>29593306
>>It was really strong!!
>Did it work?
>>N-no... but muh investment and research waaah wahh
You're retarded.

>>29593184
>>29593241

>You're literally saying that Mewtwo being tricked into a machine that was literally made to hold mewtwo?
It was still just a fucking machine. If Mewtwo can destroy the world, it should be able to destroy a machine, no matter what it was designed to do. There was no magic in them that would protect the machines from super strong attacks.

>>29593322
It wasn't, you dumb cunt. Mewtwo wanted to take over the world, not destroy it.
>But muh rain
Stupid legends believed by stupid people.

>>29593334
You got literally nothing. Why do you still keep going? Is the only thing you can do meme you underage shitter?

Giovanni spent a fortune on advanced and strong enough techonolgy that theoritcally would even be able to hold mewtwo. How is it hard to understand? Kill yourself retard.

>>29593372
>literally says in the movie he is going to destroy it
>"b-b-but his goal was not to destroy the world!"
rewatch the first movie and get yourself educated. maybe you might actually know shit afterwards

>>29593352
But he did destroy the machine you retard. And he was able to destroy the world because he was able to affect the weather with his psychic powers and great a neverending storm able to flood and destroy the world.

Jesus you're retarded. You can't even follow the story telling of a kids show.

>>29593436
>But he did destroy the machine you retard.
Yes, after he was almost killed and need a fucking kid to help him.

>>29593436
Great = create*

>>29593455
Just proving that Giovanni's investment worked.

>>29593409
>Watching the shit dub
What a moron.

>>29593398
Stop projecting, retard. Consider suicide.

>>29593471
>Just proving that Giovanni's investment worked.

Only because he had leverage to get him into the machine in the first place. He damn sure wasn't confident he could get him in with brute force.

>Ashnime Mewtwo does nothing but use a big teleport once, and is almost killed by some stupid machines
>"The machines were strong and he was forced to walk into them! Mewtwo wasn't actually weak! He was super strong because he could use Rain Dance!"

>Origins Mewtwo OHKOs a Legendary and almost kills two Champions
>"Both the Mewtwo and Champions wre weak because they weren't causing explosions!"

>>29593519
>being in full damage control


Lmao, you got btfo.

>>29593494
>watching the shit sub
keep being retarded anon

>>29593547
>I ignore that mewtwo was powerfull enough to destroy the fucking world
>I ignore the fact that it moved a whole fucking lake under mountains

Jesus, you're on special kind of retard.

>>29593560
says the retard who can't even debate and just goes muh ashnime powerlevels muh powerlevels because I say so lalalala waah stop btfoing me with facts.

>>29593588
>I ignore that mewtwo was powerfull enough to destroy the fucking world
How? By causing Rain for long enough to drown the world? You know that's retarded.

>>I ignore the fact that it moved a whole fucking lake under mountains
And that makes him really strong. He can teleport things.

>>29593588
>>powerful enough to destroy the world
>did it destroy it?
>>N-No, but he said he would.
What an idiot.

>M-muh lake.
How is that even a feat comparable to planet busting?

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>>29593605
>can't even debate
>when you repeat everything you say when it has been debunked long ago and throw out random buzzwords

Hypocritical retard. We're at the point there the only thing you have left is saying I can't argue. What's next? Complaing about my spelling errors. You have lost this debate. Have some pride and fuck off.

Ashnime fags reached a new level of delusion with XY. It's like the kids who cleared XY and think they are good at pokemon because of it.

>>29593629
>literally says it can destroy the world
>"my headcannon says otherwise and alsp let me heavily undermine it by saying a world devestating storm in a little rain"

Wew, you have lost

>>29593635
>m-my headcannon says he can't

>>29591657
Red married Blue you dumb brick. And he's the silent alpha.

>>29593683
What have you ever disproven aside from your ability for logical discussion?

you have your headcanon of different powerlevels but generations disprove it. Furthermore, Origins mewtwo fought two champions and btfod one, the strongest trainers in the world, how the fuck does that mean that origins mewtwo is a pushover?

>>29593690
>m-muh animefan boggieman

Kys

>>29593717
No, it doesn't, you retard. Go watch the fucking movie before making these claims. If you do hear someone saying that, please let me know at what time. Oh, and use the subs, not the fucking dub.

>>29593739
>my headcanon says he can.

Team Rocket have said for decades they'll catch pikachu, that doesn't mean they're able to.

>>29593776
But none of your arguments proves anything since powerlevel is relative to its universe. Origin mewtwo was not shown to be able to have the powerlevel even close to move lakes or destroy the world. Read the thread again and stop ignoring what I weite you fucking retard. And argument means you actually counter my arguments not ignore them a parrot your arguments.

How old are you? 14 or some garbage? Fucking retard

>>29593777
Ashnime fags are the laughing stock of the fandom. Boggian my ass

Everyone who's claiming that Legendaries are stronger in Ashnime, please don't forget that the Team Rocket Trio managed to capture a Zapdos in XY&Z. If those retards can restrain them, they aren't strong. The ones battling them are just too weak.

>>29593809
That's not even comparable. Mewtwo was shown it was able to. It was able create a storm around the world and raising the sea levels. It's a 20 years old comic relief gag.

>>29593851
Stay mad. If you think origin mewtwo is just as strong as movie 1 mewtwo you're ln delusional retard.

>>29593856
It's not*

>>29593879
The movie Mewtwo did NOTHING! Absolutely NOTHING!

>He can destroy the world
Why didn't he, then? Did he wanted to meet Ash one last time before saying sayonara to the world?

>>29593855
Yea, after it was weakened as fuck by Ash. But let's forget that small detail. And let's forget that it isn"

>>29593828
He defeated 2 champion teams, had movie mewtwo defeated steven and cynthia you'd be parroting those as feats. You're just dismissing origins feats because they aren't flashy because origins wasn't made for ADD kiddies like the ashnime, I feel sorry for you that you can't enjoy anything if it doesn't have flashy colors.

>>29593920
And Ash isn't even near champion level, even with greninjash. And mewtwo swept 2 champ tier trainers. How does that make ahnime legends stronger?

>>29593913
>so retarded he couldn't even follow the easy plot of a kids movie

He literally sent an invetation to strong trainers, created storm just by moving its hand to see which trainers would be able to make it to his island and then clone their pokemon before destroying the world and create a new one.

Jesus you're retarded.

>>29593948
Because even in the anime it's a clear difference between under 670bst legendaries and over 670bst legendaries? Are you seriously comparing a fucking zapdos that there exist many of in the anime to a fucking mewtwo? Retard. It's not comparable.

>>29593948
>every legendary has the same powerlevel in the anime

Are you seriously this stupid? That you use one of the weakest legendaries to make a point about mewtwo? Lol, what a moron.

>>29593952
>created storm
Yes, he used Rain Dance. Every fucking Pokemon and their mother's can learn it.
I'm asking WHY. Why did he sent invitation to trainer and all that shit if he just wanted to destroy the world?
Go watch the fucking movie. He can't destroy shit!

>>29593920
Oh yeah, a Boomburst weakened it. The Zapdos must've been super strong if he needed a Boomburst to be weakened.

>>29594247
>responding 20min later
>hurr my headcannon says he used rain dance durr

He wanted the strongest pokemon and clone them. How can one be so retarded that the can't follow easy stroy telling? You can but how?

>>29594272
Lets ignore STAB hjk as well and the fact that boomburst is one of the best and strongest moves in the games. And let's ignore that Zapdos is the lowest tier of legendary and not even comparable to legendaries like Mewtwo to rayquaza.

>>29594303
>>responding 20min later
Because I have other things to do. Need to translate a comic for a nice anon.

>>hurr my headcannon says he used rain dance durr
It's not headcanon you retard. How else do you cause rain in Pokemon world?

>He wanted the strongest pokemon and clone them.
You're still missing my point.

>>29594442
>literally thinking his headcannon is true because his other headcannon says there's only one way to create rain in the pokeworld

Wew, headcannonception

>>29594468
Oh, so there is another way? Is it the special abilities, which didn't exist at the time?

>>29594528
Or you know, using his psychic power to control the clouds and able to force the process that creates rain. Another headcannon for you since you seem to like them believe them. The whole plot was that Mewtwo could destroy the world. Your headcannon garbage doesn't change that.

>>29594528
Anon, stop already. Do you still not see that you're just wasting your time? Instead of arguing with a rock, go work on your translation. That will make more people happy.

>>29594655
He's not even arguing at this point. Only damage controlling. I agree that he should fuck off and translate.

>>29594655
Yeah, I'm sorry. I'll stop now. I underestimated his autism level.

>>29594789
Yes, you did. You were arguing against his headcanon from the beginning. There was no way to win.