Try to break my new OU team Protip: you can't

>>>Salandit2 with EQ

>>29571331
Get ready for terrain tapus: the meta guise

Nidoking.

>>29571331
>5 legendaries

Coward scumbag

>>29571331
>all the Tapus
Nice synergy faggot

Salanslut used Toxic

>>29571331
>Salandit2 used Sludgebomb
>Salandit2 used Sludgebomb
>Salandit2 used Sludgebomb
>Salandit2 used Sludgebomb
>Salandit2 used Toxic
>Skarmory is Badly Poisoned
>Salandit2 used Mud Bomb

>four Fairies

I too love Steel types

>>29571941
Salandit2 doesn't have enough stats to take on any of them.

Heatran can take the Mud Bomb (lol) and OHKOs it with Earth Power

>>29571941
>Tapu Lele used Psyshock!
>Tapu Fini used Scald!
>implying Salandit2 won't be a shitmon anyway

>>29572015
>Running Scald on a mon that can't inflict any grounded mon with burns

>>29571331

Tapu Fini can't burn anything with Scald while Misty Surge is active

>>29571996
>two of those fairies take neutral from Steel moves
>the opponent has a Heatran
Why are Steelfags such colossal retards?

>>29572011
How do you know what its stats will be?

Outside of skarm, drill run excadrill shits on this whole team

>>29572142
Look at Heliolisk and the look at Salandit2.

>>29572165
>Tapu Fini used Water Gun!

>>29572174
You people are a bunch of fucking idiots.

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>>29571331
Mega Lucario

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>>29572165

>using Drill Run over Earthquake

>>29572494

>Not knowing Top Bull shits on Earthquake and it's variations

>>29572165
Bulu resists it and even then you're running fucking Drill Run just to deal with one team

>>29572189
>Excadrill used Iron Head!
>Tapu Fini flinched and couldn't move!

Hidden Power Ground Magnezone accepts your challenge, OP.

>>29572555
a 30% chance to win is not a counter

>>29571331
Smack Down Lando kills like 5 of these.

Magnezone + Any real offensive threat is going to do similarly.

4 Fairy types makes pretty shit synergy.

Alolan Muk says hi

>>29572619
>HP Ground Tapu Koko

>>29571331
Wait, doesn't gengar eat this team alive?

>>29571331
how can it be a protip when your not a pro

>team loses to offensive Heatran

heh.........easy

>>29572090
That things ability is named after two gen 1 gym leaders? The pandering never ends.

Nidoking

>>29572011
>>29572174
Here are the calcs of Heliolisk with Fire/Poison typing and Mud Bomb
>252 SpA Life Orb Heliolisk Mud Bomb vs. 252 HP / 188+ SpD Heatran: 239-286 (61.9 - 74%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
>252 SpA Life Orb Heliolisk Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Skarmory: 374-439 (111.9 - 131.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
>HP Rock 40.7 - 48.3%
252 SpA Life Orb Heliolisk Sludge Bomb vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Virizion (Psychic/Fairy) 546-645 (169 - 199.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Still destroys this team entirely.

>>29572142
>>29572219
It will compensate stats for having an amazing ability. Expect no more base stats than 470 or something.

>>29572515

It's not worth gimping yourself in every other scenario

>>29573743
Corrosion really isn't that great

it only allows Toxic to hit Steel types

Citizen Snips beats this.

>>29573948
No it doesn't. He can't even fall asleep with Koko or Fini on the field.

>>29571331
Magikarp and 5 Shadow Mewthrees

>>29574005
But Fini can't hit him with anything SE so snips boosts and hits Fini with a knock off

Can we really be sure that the tapus will change everything and dominate the meta? All effects are just limited to 5 turns and weather teams already got alot rarer in Gen 6.

>>29571331

you act like they aren't going to introduce a pokemon that has the ability to instantly remove the effects of terrain.

>>29574094
>>29574107
The terrains are really only bonuses to the real threat: They're 580 BST Pokemon excellent Fairy dual typing. Clefable is among the best Pokemon in the game and its monotype Fairy at 483 BST. The Tapus will be meta changers because they're just something we don't have yet.

>>29574107
Weather wars were still a thing even though Altaria, Golduck, and Lickylicky exist.

>>29571331
SD LO Excadrill

>>29574107

And it'll probably be useless just like every Pokemon with Cloud Nine is

>>29571331
Literally any Steel type for strong STAB attacks other than Scizor (because of the weird field) with some kind support to take down Heatran (which I'll assume has a balloon).

>>29574243
Do the tapus have good speed.
Scizor could work if so.
If not Agility Scizor with Superpower for heatran could take out everyone but skarmory most likely.

>>29574306
Nevermind, Scizor can't OHKO heatran without attack boosts, unless you're crazy enough to run Agility + Swords dance

If Salandit2 has Heliolisk's stats it can pretty much solo that team. A full team with 5 OU mons wouldn't really have an issue.

>>29571331
If Decidueye can learn Thousand Arrows, your team is fucking kill. Especially once you use the grass Tapu.

>>29572646
>muk
lmao
this is saying we shouldn't use mewtwo because a butterfree might show up

>>29571331
Mega Lopunny would hurt it a lot, right?

>>29575030
>Fighting type vs. 4 fairies
Probably not, unless lopunny outspeeds AND ohkos all 4

>Magnezone + anything that beats Heatran

Hits all the tapus except Koko super effectively, resists every Tapu's STAB except Fini, actively shits on Skarmory. Wow, that was hard.

>>29574938
grass tapu reduces ground type damage. twat

>>29575163
>Heatran used Ember!
Wow, that was hard

>Nidoking used Sludge Bomb
>Nidoking used Sludge Bomb
>Nidoking used Sludge Bomb
>Nidoking used Sludge Bomb
>Nidoking used Earth Power
>Nidoking used Fire Blast

Alternatively,

>Gengar used Sludge Wave x4
>Gengar used Focus Blast
>Gengar used Thunderbolt

>>29575199
It only reduces the damage of Ground type spread moves

>>29574050
Have you been in a Showderp match before? Snips relies on Rest entirely to keep himself alive. If he can't sleep, he's going down in less than 3 turn. Plus te Tapu all resist KnockOff.

>>29575211
It's okay anon, I know reading is really hard. But Magnezone is the one with Magnet Pull, not Heatran. It just leaves.

>>29573831
Depends on usage rate for Bulu

>>29575302
so it doesn't break the team then

you just admitted it

Trick-Specs Gengar handles it pretty well, as does Nidoking/queen (Run Thunderbolt for Skarm) and Magnezone (use HP Ground, some people already do if your team needs a trapper but you have other answers to Ferrothorn)

>>29574171
There's a Skarmory sitting right there

>>29571499

>triggered.jpg
lol fighting with shitmons won't earn you anything more than a loss and the Karenfag award 2016.
>fighting with m-muh bros is the real way to go!

>>29571331
Also you're a faggot, hope you're running specs timid heatran with earth power for nidoking then.

>>29575332
>Either watch one of your mons get fucking obliterated by Magnezone or lose half of heatran's hp to a thunderbolt and then have to switch again as something that fucks heatran in the mouth switches in

Breaking everything in a team isn't how that works, anon, all it takes is one big, gaping hole

And Magnezone is coming for your holes.

>>29575163
How about Dugtrio? Means you can catch Heatran easy.

Mega Metagross, with Earthquake, Brick Break, Bullet Punch, and Meteor Mash

GG

Kyurem-Black

Set:
Kyurem-Black @ Life Orb
Ability: Teravolt
EVs: 104 Atk / 252 SpA / 152 Spe
Naughty Nature
- Ice Beam
- Earth Power
- Outrage
- Iron Head

This right here is going to be a main threat in next year's OU.

Ice Beam shits on Skarm and Bulu, Iron Head wrecks the fairies. Earth Power kills Heatran and maybe Tapu-Koko if your dumb opponent thinks Koko can switch in. Fini is the only one that might be hard to deal with, but you can just pack something else along that can switch in and cause trouble for it, like Ferrothorn.

Koko is really the only thing on there that can revenge Kyurem. Again, though, Ferrothorn probably hoses Koko.

Keep in mind even if you prepare one Pokemon that threatens this team it can still be fucked over by a Z-Move

>>29575426
Make sure it's Alolan dugtrio so you look fabulous while doing so

>>29572108
they can't remember the type chart

>>29575475
>>29575483
these work

>>29572539
>Iron Head
>Drill Run
>Poison Jab
Excadrill would shit on everyone but Skarmory.

Oh wow. I didn't even think my thread would get this many replies.

But seriously, expect to see teams with two or more Tapu in OU. They're the new genies.

>>29575402
Magnezone can't even touch this team. Heatran completely fucks it.

CB Rhyperior 2hkos Skarmory with stone edge, lo SD Garchomp with poison jab/Fireblast can nuke these guys, zard Y fireblast and focus blast. Spdef Talonflame breaks 4 of these and forces switches on two.

Specs Latios, banded Ttar and lo Excadrill can break this team effortlessly, in addition CB Weavile shits on all of the Pokémon bar skarmory wich is dead on the switch vs non ice punch variants if it's spdef skarmory making tapu fini the only reliable switch in.

>>29575695
Just trap it with Dugtrio. That's it, that's all you have to do.

>>29575695
What's specs Thunderbolt and volt switch breaking the balloon.

Seriously heatran needs to be played conservatively against magnezone cores with wallbreakers.

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>>29575837
SD rockslide... You are evil...

Bonus points for fucking Zapdos and Dugtrio.

>>29575837
What the hell is Gliscor going to do to Skarm?

>>29575868
It's a curse lax scenario, none of those Pokémon can break through Gliscor except Tapu Fini, if tapu fini goes down or is weakened a sd+1 Gliscor finishes the game skarmory can only phase him but if there is only one Pokémon left and it is Gliscor, it's game over for that team.

>>29575980
Well, that's assumeing Koko doesn't have HP Ice, which almost every Electric type runs...

>>29576043
Run hp ice of base 120 spstkvs spdef SD Gliscor, it can't ohko and Gliscor still outspeeds neutral base 70s with that set.

Seriously dude, it's a checkmate.

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>>29571331
Someone may have posted it but.
Drapion for everything but Skarmory.
Alolan Raichu the remaining pokemon

>>29575761
>Rhyperior
Suggester pls go

>>29571331
I play the exact same team, and go first. Check and mate.

HP ground Volcarona.

>>29576211
Name one Pokémon able to break Clefable, Mega Slowbro, Skarmory, Landorus T, Quagsire, Tangrowth and Zapdos on the switch.

Rhyperior does this without fear of thunder wave. 140 atk CB and 150 BP neutral stonequake is really good and I don't know why people don't catch up on it.

>>29571331
HP Fire / EQ / Sludge Bomb Mega Venusaur with some support or Mega Zard Y + Venusaur or whatever you like :^) and many other shit honestly, including Mega Zame and many others.
Also Greninja and Aegislash.

Gen 7 seems to be a meta of many opportunities or almost every mon thanks to terrains and Z moves for surprising coverage and kills as if those were huffed high risk high reward Hidden Power.

>>29574150
>not using smeargle
>expecting this much out of pokemon we haven't even seen
>not considering the possibility that there may be pokemon old or new that will crush them

>>29576704
>two terrains that completely deny sleep
Sleepdoge is dead.

>>29576315
>M-Slowbro
>Skarmory
>Lando-T (which has intimidate)
>Tangrowth
no way it can break those on a switch

>>29576737
smeargle literally only has to have another terrain move to counteract it

>>29576810
dunno a two turn setup to put something to sleep doesn't seem worth it.

>>29572234
What's the best mega pokemon anyoways? Excluding Rayquaza. I guess Salamence, Lucarion and Kangaskhan are the candidates.

>>29576315
Rotom-Ice could of if it had better coverage, enough speed and SpA, and Mold Breaker.

>>29576834
it's sleep, of course its worth it. whats the worse they can do anyway, use a calm mind? my ass that they will be able to one shot much of anything

>>29576909
>my ass that they will be able to one shot much of anything

The terrains already boost their STAB moves by 50% unless Gamefreak balances that out (HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA) with either shit movepools or low BST then they are very likely to deal some decent damage even without boosts.

>>29576834
Min speed Top Lel will counteract Koko and Fini's terrains

>>29571331
Magnezone shits on most of the mons barring Heatran

>>29576961
Smeargle would outspeed all of them and im pretty sure they will be weaker/equivalent to the regis both staus and movepool wise

>>29575380
>bait and trap with Magnezone
>Kill it with Thunderbolt
you're not limited to one pokemon anon

>>29577024
Dunno the regis were incredibly heavy golems, these guys are totem pixies.

>>29577024
>Smeargle would outspeed all of them
>base 75 speed
What the fuck?

>>29577206
i can only see 1 of them going past 120 speed at lvl 50 with no stat boosting nature without applying choice scarf

>>29576772
252+ Atk Choice Band Rhyperior Stone Edge vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Skarmory: 162-192 (48.5 - 57.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock

You said?

Landorus is 2hkoed after intimidate by Stone edge and ohko by ice punch/aqua tail.

Quagsire is 2hkoed by eq.

Slowbro is 2hkoed by EQ, mega Slowbro is 2hkoed by Megahorn.

Tangrowth AV is 2hkoed by stone edge, Tangrowth full psychical Def is 2hkoed by Megahorn.

Seriously people are sleeping on this guy, you just need 240 speed to outspeed Skarmory and this thing shit on stall.

Zapdos is this guy bitch as well as Clefable.

Why're you all trying to find one Pokémon that can sweep that whole team?
Both players get a team of six Pokémon.

>>29577280
>i can only see 1 of them going past 120 speed at lvl 50 with no stat boosting nature without applying choice scarf

>neutral natured base stat of 69 has a real value of 121 at lvl 50
I can barely see any of them going below 80 base speed, let alone 70. You have to be trolling.

>>29571533
>-75% HP x4
>toxic
>spikes + whirlwind

not recognizing this synergy.

>>29572515
Since when does Grassy Terrain weaken EQ?

>>29577399
Z moves can only be used once.

>>29577411
> If Grassy Terrain is in effect, the damage taken from Bulldoze, Earthquake, and Magnitude is halved (even in a single battle).
Since 2013, when the move was introduced.

>>29577399
>-75% HP x4
You're gonna have them all run Z-Crystals for a one time only move? That's wack.

>>29577334
The only people "sleeping on Rhyperior" are random anons.

Rhyp has seen tour play on Smogon. It's ok. Its biggest weakness is that it's relatively easy to outplay, as most defensive mons can wall 2 or 3 of your 4 moves, putting tremendoues pressure on the Rhyp player to win guesses that are extremely out of their favor to win. That's why Rhyp isn't OU or slept on or whatever- It's too easy to outplay.

>>29577433
Why doesn't Serebii mention this?

>>29573853
and other poison types too, don't forget.

>>29577454
I have no clue. You'd think he'd mention it on the Terrain Alteration game mechanics page, but nope.

>>29574150
Clefairy also has two fantastic abilities and a ridiculous movepool.

>>29577439
Can't argue that, but the pay out of guessing that first stone edge or earthquake is massive and enough for some stall teams to forfeit, even without SR on Rhyperior has a 91% chance of 2hkoing skarmory.

The real peril lies on multiple ground immunities plus tangrowth/quagsire where EQ actually becomes a 50/50.

Prediction heavy doesn't mean bad, look at Hoopa U, that's the epitome of "barely any prediction at all" wallbreaker, Rhyperior is balanced by opportunity cost.

>>29575220

No stall team can deal with Gengar so what's your point?

>>29571375
Brilliant.

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>>29573282
Underrated

>>29577701
His point is that OP asked to break his core and he did.

>>29576836
Megamom got kneecapped with the Parental Bond nerf. Only does 1.25 now. It's pretty useless now

>>29577861
> It's pretty useless now
heh

>>29577861
how does parental bond interact with Z-moves? For that matter, how does Instruct Oranguru work with that?

Could I get the same z-move off 4 times in one battle in doubles?

>>29571331
>You have been visited by the Tapus of Healthy Meta

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>>29571376
Won't be no worse than weather.

I can't wait for the politoad and ninetales equivalents though.

>>29577768
he called it his *OU* team.
M-Geng is Ubers.

>>29578346
He never said mega tho

>>29577435
I mean, they still get 4 more moves to use after that one. All the set space it takes up is the held slot. And a held item that removes 75% of your opponents health is baller.

>>29571331
You have to be 18 to post here "pro"