Post Pokemon that can't be drawn realistically

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>>29550924

>>29550966
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>>29550966
It's literally a toucan

>>29550924
Well, Gastly is a ghost made out of gas, so a real life version of it could easily look like that anyway since its eyes don't need to have a realistic apparate.

>>29550966
ahahahaha

>>29550966
You're mostly right, Anon. Just one can't be drawn realistically, but toucan.

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Yes it can.

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>>29551057
jesus fucking christ carlos

>>29551063
Literally shit

>>29551024
>>29551056
What is the ball
>>29551063
Ugh I hate the "realistic art" that looks nothing like the actual Pokemon. Like the one where Voltorb was drawn as an armadillo

Typhlosion. The back flames just can't be done right.

>>29551094
They're supposed to look like blowtorch flames

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>>29551063
>"let just make the pokemon into another animal entirely!"

>>29551090
post armadillo

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>>29552602

Flying crabs?

>>29552654
I DO like how Zapdos is a giant electric kingfisher and how Raichu is a giant kangaroo rat

But Voltorb just doesn't work as a realistic creature at ALL in any aspect. Trying to make Voltorb realistic is like trying to make carrots out of lamps.

mewtwo

>>29552654
>crabs
Fuck off

>>29553323
>>29552682
I hate it too

>>29551090
Fuck you. Sometimes that's the best and most clever way to recreate a Pokemkn in the real world.

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>>29552731
>implying

>>29551057
This made my day. Thanks, Anon!

>>29553743
Voltorb is a possessed Poke Ball, maybe even possessed by some sort of AI

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>>29551057
Arceusdammit

>>29551084
>>29551090
Oh boy, another Arvalis hate thread!
>>29552731
That's the point, Arvalis doesn't draw "Pokemon in a realistic style", but "pokemon as creatures that could somewhat realistically exist in real life".

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>>29553802
>Arceusdammit

>>29553769
Why is it so hard for you autists to understand that people like Arvalis draw pokémon like Voltorb pr Ghastly as different animals because there's no such thing as a living ball of machinery irl?

It shouldn't be that hard to understand

>>29553839
>>29553823
Arvalis pls leave

>>29553839
>there's no such thing as a living ball of machinery irl?
Why can't it just be an automated bomb that rolls to its target?

>>29553823
>>29553839
Arvalis is a wonderful, talented artist who deserves a fulfilling career of work and his concepts are shit and he should stop drawing Pokemon

>>29553839
Why does everything need to be a bug, though?

I mean, the drawings are pretty good, but after a while the design choices just stop feeling clever. You can't just make every single pokemon that doesn't resemble a real life animal a mimic arthropod or amphibian.

>>29550966
I'll take 2 cans, please.

>>29553880
Because that's not living animal

>>29552654

It's the fact he insists on still retaining the original pokemon's face/body somehow that's annoying

Armadillo voltorb wouldn't be nearly as bad if it wasn't for those fucking fake eyes on the shell

>>29553918
Because IRL are the easiest to mess around with shapes, patterns and body-types. It would defitively hardet to turn something like Frosslass or Honedge into mammal or a birb

>>29553940
Why does it have to be?

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>>29551057

>>29553987
Because Arvalis and artists like Arvalis havebin description that their specific aim is to imagine pokémpn as living things that could exist IRL. Living things being the key here

Now you're free to gloss over what I just said and complain about Ghastly line becoming bats like the autist you are

>>29553982
it's still fucking boring

and then he made the Trapinch line into lizards and lost any "muh realism" credibility

>>29554098
I don't like the idea of them looking like living things, I want them to look like realistic depictions of what Ken Sugimori drew.

>>29553802
>Arceusdammit

Kill yourself.

>>29554148
>Catalog
Well too bad for you, that's not what Arvalis does.

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>>29553823
I understand what he's going for, but sometimes people just want cool releastic versions, not reimagined creatures.

And sometimes he makes really fucking weird choices. Like why not make Meganium a brontosaurus? We have plenty of turtle pokemon, and Meganium isn't one.

>>29554247
>take a green dinosaur
>dinosaurs aren't realistic
>make it a really big tortoise

>>29554385
>dinosaurs aren't realistic
???

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>>29554430

>>29554247
>That Celebi

Everytime.

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>>29554247
Holy fuck what is wrong with that Celebi

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His reimaginings are neat (particularly the Legendaries) but it's best to just view them as reimaginings, and not as the actual Pokemon.

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BUG
GIRATINA

>Origin Form is the larval stage that floats in the heavy gas-filled cave system nicknamed the Distortion World

>>29552654
>crabnemite

Actually retarded.

>>29552654
All he does is take existing animals and paint them Pokemon colours.

>>29554592
That concept wouldn't be so bad if it were the origin form.

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Realistic shaymin :^)

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>>29554592
>send help pls

>>29554592
Giratina was always a demonic centipede dragon thing.

>>29554592
Can he not just make it a dragon? He'll just make it a Wyvern if he needs the extra wingtalons, he's made dragons before

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>>29554680

>>29553802
shut the fuck up.

>>29554592
>vanilish line
>bugs
what?

>>29554771
He isn't creative enough to think of what they could be

>>29554771
Ice can't be alive, but bugs can be alive.

>"let just make the pokemon into another animal entirely!"

That how realistic artists treat roughly 100% of non-animal Pokemon.

>>29554805
he should just not do those ones then

>>29554783
This. When he can't think of something interesting to make a Pokemon, it just becomes some weird bug or creature that only looks like the original pokemon in one specific pose and angle

>>29551024
Spotted the Gen 1 apologist

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>>29552654
Kill me

>>29552431
Now I want to see what bullshit Arvalis would pull on Magmortar

>>29554805
but bugs can't be alive on ice

>>29552654
I do find his crabmite and armadoltorbs clever, but realistically those would be machines

What I don't like is his cop out of the kyurem forms. "Clearly the fusion was made up" fuck off that was canon you just don't want to even attempt. Could have made them odd sterile hybrids, or symbiotic, or even had Kyurem be an odd predator that assimilates Reshiram and Zekrom somehow

Same thing with making Origin Giratina just a baby Giratina - Not hard to have the spikes fold out into legs, faceplate open, and bullshit something about the wings having parts that turn clear or dark depending on surrounding materials

Also his Umbreon looks like a neckbeard fox

>>29554247
The drawing itself looks like garbage, but i love the little foongus on paras`s back

>>29554930
>realistically those would be machines
This. Why didn't he just make them machines?

>>29551090
>What is the ball
An orb. In supernatural circles(pun intended), orbs are a big deal. They're one of the most commonly sighted supernatural occurrences.

>>29555008
"Pokemon can't be artificial" autism. I too had it when I was nine.

>>29554783

If he's going to make arthropods then why not just do some hermit crab with a decorative snow/ice shell for the icecream part.

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>>29550924
Tentacle trees.

JUST

>>29555065
Oh you mean those things that happen when you get stuff on your camera lens?

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>>29555093
>Ninetails is perfectly suited to his style
>He fucks it up
How is someone so talented so awful

>>29555099
Yes.

>>29555093
>the foxes are wolves
What? Why?

>>29555093
Everything in that image triggers me.

>Ninetails looks more like a wolf from its facial structure

>TENTACLE TREES

>jellyfish Lampent

>another "just make it a bug at a very specific angle" for Honedge

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>>29554098
But that flies in the face of what Pokemon ARE.

Pic related. He takes a SWORD possessed by a ghost, and turns it into... a fucking bug.
If his Charizard can have flames on its tail, why can't he use other magical elements? Why is an animal that is perpetually on fire somehow more realistic than a real ghost?

He could've had a spectral Roman centurion wielding a Honedge-like sword, or even turned the cloth part into a giant tapeworm that swings around old swords that it finds. That would've been a creative take on an inanimate object that could be a "realistic" creature, while still retaining the inanimate object side of things.

Instead he turns it into literally my mom's bug.

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>>29555093
Y-you okay there, Garchomp?

>>29555242
>the hammerhead shark is a goblin shark for no reason
This guy is awful.

>>29555242
>Slaps legs and giant fins on a shark
Ugh, absolute shit.

>pokemon based off masudas love for catching bugs as a child
>vp complains when artist draws pokemon as bugs
every one of you are a walking joke

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>>29555353

>>29555180
The charizard actually had a really neat description about its tail having an oil secreting gland that powers the flame. While not entirely possible, not left to magic.

>>29550966
Does genwunners hate this Pokemon?

>>29553839
there's no electric-shooting rats either
it only irritates people because he arbitrarily chooses what parts to be realistic about

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>>29556023
>animals with electric abilities aren't realistic

WAH HE'S DRAWING POKEMON THE WRONG WAY

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>>29555242
oh boy i get to post this picture again

>>29554466
I think its supposed to be a mantis...

>>29556023
>it only irritates people because he arbitrarily chooses what parts to be realistic about

Not really.

He makes the fact that it has to be a living, breathing organism realistic. That's it. There are no living balls or ghosts in real life.

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ITT
>WAAAAH WHY ISN'T ARVALIS JUST DRAWING LITERALLY THE SAME POKEMON BUT WITH REALISTIC TEXTURES ;_;

I bet you retards think this counts as """"realistic""""

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>>29551063
>>29552654
>>29554247
>>29554592
>>29554680
>>29555093
>>29555242
Can we please stop posting shit like this I am literally going to fucking kill my self.

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>>29558423

>>29558163
Now remember kids, the more quotation marks you use, the stronger your point is

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>>29550966
Checkmate, atheists

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>>29558598
>>29558163
It's a balance with no real right answer. All that really matters is whether or not the art itself is good and you're not MAKING MAGNEMITE INTO A FUCKING FLYING CRAB FUCK

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>>29558675

>>29558447
This isn't realistic, this is just the Pokemon drawn with realistic textures. Fuck off with this shit.

>>29558502
This isn't realistic either.

>>29558468
Now remember kids, the more strawmans you attack, the stronger your """""point""""" is

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>>29558703
>>29558989
Silly pedant.

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>>29559099

>>29552431
>another
What animal was it?

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>>29559126

>>29558989
>strawman
You literally did what he's talking about in your post. Is strawman the hot new buzzword or something?

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>>29550924
I found this

>>29555180
>try to make Pokémon realistic
>nothing in reality remotely resembles a flying sword
>have to take creative liberties with it
>retards will actually complain about this

>>29555093
>Swordbug
Neat. I want one of those.

>>29559357

Hey I know what resembles a flying sword... How about a sentient fucking flying fucking sword? As in a sword that can fly and is sentient.

Swords exist IRL so that shouldn't be too hard right?

>>29559452
hence the ghost type

>>29558989
>A ghost puppet from thrown out doll is not realistic for being made out of worn cloth and other materials sewn together
???

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>>29558423
please sweet jesus just do it.

>>29551063
Its funny when people bitch about this interpretation. The dude's whole schtick is "make this believable living creature by looking at real world animals". There isn't exactly reference material for a ghost, so the idea was to look for something that could be mistaken for a ghost.

People moan and groan that it's not just a cartoon with more fur/scale texture but I like his versions. They're at least different from everything else.

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>>29551057

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>>29559099
This isn't realistic. It's just alt art.

Pokemon + realistic texture != realistic

>>29559275
>You literally did what he's talking about in your post.

So? He didn't actually attack the argument. He just attacked something else in the post unrelated to the argument. That's what a strawman is. Whether or not I used multiple quotes has nothing to do with my point.

>Is strawman the hot new buzzword or something?
No. Look it up.

>>29554558
Yeah, agreed. I'd rather see his wacky creative re-imaginings than the same overly-textured bullshit "realistic pokemon" everyone has already done a million times.

Pokémon are not realistic other than some water-types that are just a less impressive version of a real-world fish.

>>29554672
He imagines them existing in our world as if they were evolutions of animals from today? Like I get that it's not what everyone wants from "realistic Pokémon", but he actually researches biology and puts effort into the explanations. It's a fair bit more than painting existing animals

>>29559634
Pedantry in motion.

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>>29554921
Well he did magmar at least

>>29559452
>sentient flying sword
>realistic
Are you literally retarded? His whole aim is making realistic Pokémon. Not retexturing them to make them look like they were real. To apply reality's rules to Pokémon. Not their rules to ours.

>>29555008
Because a machine isn't an animal or living. That's missing the point. Also, it's boring.

>>29559729
I'm not the person you're replying to, but the problem is that that is boring and stupid.

>>29559634
No, a strawman is misrepresenting your point, not focusing on an irrelevant thing in your post.

>>29555180
A spectral roman centurion? Are you an idiot?
They're supposed to be living animals. That's literally the entire point of his series. Thats why he makes the ghosts into animals. A roman centurion. WTF are you even thinking?

Sure he could do just a super high res realistic sword but that's boring as fuck. I like his work because he always does things with pokemon designs I haven't already seen 1000000 times. If you just want a realistic sword, look it up, I'm sure youll find plenty of honedge art that already looks like that.

>>29555259
>>29555270
This is literally the first one he did years and years ago. Chill.

>>29558675
>wah he can imagine made up monsters as things I can't comprehend so it's bad

>>29558163
God those fucking feet. Pokken Tournament was a mistake.

>>29559452
If you want to see realistic sword honedge, google it. I'm sure youll find plenty of fanart like that. I like his unique take on it, seeing something that hasnt been done a million times over.

>>29559504
I fucking love this one. Whats an animal that goes from tadpole to limbed vaguely reptilian creature? A salamander. So good.

>>29559729

That makes no fucking sense.

It looks like what he's doing is just converting pokemon into weird animals with some resemblance to the original..

That's it.

>>29559829
>I can't comprehend

Stop using your own intelligence as a baseline for other people.

>>29559510

>there isn't reference material for a ghost

Yes there is and ghastly looks like it.

You mean there's no living animal that looks like a ghost.

>>29559838
>seeing feet in a pawed animal
Stop fapping to feet, degenerate.

>>29559948
Mm, no. I can understand where he's coming from. Tell me, why is MAGNEMITE A FUCKING FLYING CRAB so offensive?

>>29555093
>Cephalopod trees.

that's the good shit

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>>29560020
People don't know how to get a joke.

Arvalis is actually a pretty goofy guy. Sometimes he adds in goofy pokemon like the hover crabs. On the eeveelution pic he described each one in depth and their mechanism of growing into each separate creature. the leafeon licks sticky sap onto itself and the leaf on its head as a normal leaf that just happens to be stuck there. For glaceon, literally the only text he put was "Glaceon is dumb". He's a dork who doesn't take his work too seriously even when fans do.

Its especially funny to read people get so mad that their favorite pokemon isn't as cute/pretty as they want it to be, ala espeon. The comments on his deviantart are a shitshow.

>>29559925
Disregard that, I suck cocks

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>>29560020
Well for one it's not actually realistic and looks retarded. Most of the redesigns are like that, just forcing a Pokemon into an animal that already exists, but doing it in a way that invalidates its own realism.

I get that the point is to make Pokemon into living creatures that could potentially exist, but I also think that point is stupid. Some Pokemon simply aren't living things, or don't work as living things, so trying to force them into that box is dumb and annoying. Not to mention it looks fucking terrible and only resembles what it's supposed to be on the most superficial level, and that only if you squint really hard.

Trying to force fantastic elements to be entirely mundane is foolhardy when the entire setting functions on magic, especially when the solution is to make the Pokemon only in appearance while abandoning their functions. Why would you bother making a setting with literal ghosts and psychic powers realistic, when that requires tossing out those things? It's creatively bankrupt to force things into these little boxes of things that already exist when there's so much more opportunity in exploring fantastic biology or things that could exist.

See, the thing he's doing is not actually making things that COULD exist. He's pidgeoholing Pokemon into animals that ALREADY exist. Dragonite is just a big salamander instead of a realistic depiction of a dragon, because obviously dragons don't exist so that means a large winged reptilian creature CAN'T exist. Gastly is a bat, because bats are real and nothing in the real world floats and produces poisonous gas so obviously that can't exist. Honedge must be a bug that resembles a sword because bugs exists and obviously tools users and biological processes capable of producing metals are un fucking heard of.

He's a hack.

>>29560862
Have you seen his charizard? He did a realistic depiction of what looks like a traditional "dragon". But since Dragonite evolves from what more closely resembles tadpoles, he decided to make it a salamander because that's a transition that exists in nature.

Besides. If you just want realistic depictions of pokemon as the cartoons they are, we have a million of those already. We have plenty "cartoon cute pikachu with realistic fur texture" images.

I like Arvalis because he does something totally different than all the other fanart renditions I've seen a million times before. He thinks it through and reimagines designs I love into totally new ideas. Even if you aren't into it yourself, the kind of art you like still exists and there's plenty of it. So Arvalis doesn't do any harm to you.

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Only realistic one I could find

>>29558703

Emboar being quadrupedal literally makes it 500% more tolerable.
God damn it I fucking wish it had more boar-esque design in the series itself. It's way goddamn better that way.

>>29559126
Insufficient levels of kangaroo.

>>29562055
But it is a mushroom bird

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>>29551057

>>29561251
>that exists in nature
His problem is that he's unwilling to mix-and-match things that occur in nature across multiple different species. For example, the scaly-foot gastropod secretes iron sclerites and incorporates iron sulphides in its skeletal structure. The use of metal in a biological structure exists, and can therefore be extrapolated to other species.

That extrapolation is what he refuses to do. He will use only a single real species per Pokémon, rather that synthesizing multiple species into a chimeric Pokémon animal.

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>>29562227
I prefer his Monster Hunter variants

>>29558989
This is nice. I like realism in textures and shit. The whole "Donkey Kong Jungle Beat" effect where the fur, hair, etc are all individually placed and not just slapped on (like in Smash Bros Brawl)
>>29558502
This is cool. I like the idea of fleshing out the idea of what the basis and origin of the Pokemon is. It's something neat that I wish a lot more artists would do.
>>29558703
This is what I call over doing it. Too much going on and it makes them not look like what they're supposed to be. Seriously, Blaziken looks like he's wearing those prosthetic running legs that amputees wear to jog.
>>29559183
See the Bannette part
>>29559303
Now this is actually unique. It's not an animal but instead goes for what Gastly is, a ball of gas. It doesn't try to expand further than that.
>>29562278
This is interesting, and I'd also say that an alternate take on Pokemon by placing them in other fantasy settings like this could work with the hyper realism aspect of fan art.

>>29558989
The thread is called "post Pokemon that can't be drawn realistically" you fuck

>>29555242
FUCK YOU CEPHADROME

>>29562796
Sounds like you're intetested in pokémon with realistic textures, not realistic pokémon

>>29558636
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYNhB0R-bIQ&t=188s

skip to 3:07

>>29559357
>have to take creative liberties with it

Except he doesn't fucking do this. There always seem to be very little actual thought behind the pokemon that can't be directly ported to animals. Its always just making it a bug painted with pokemon colors or some other uncreative crutch

>>29560335
this always triggers the shit out of me because he just makes them all look like sickly geriatric abominations more than actual "realistic" creatures

I guess at least his OG Eevee and Flareon wouldn't be terrible if they cleaned up a little bit (and made Eevee look less like a fucking half obese chipmunk), I know they're wild animals and all but god damn even they animals try to keep clean and don't perpetually look like someone just fished them out of a pool skimmer.

>>29552654
>crabnemite

JUST

>>29559729
That's fucking boring.

>>29559983

> by looking at real world animals

are you fucking retarded or just pretending to be?

>>29560335
The eon line bugs me due to him ignoring their base traits - Vaporeon has clear, obvious canine legs and paws. Espeon is outright described as having fine fur. Umbreon's neck is shorter and more shaped than the beard. I get it, he's having fun and sometimes the dex entries have to be ignored for how he does his project. But a little more following of official sources would go a long way, at least for ones that are already animals or else are involved in events like seeing a Kyurem somehow "fuse" with a Zekrom

>>29555008
I agree with this. I mean, he uses advanced science to explain Mewtwo and Ditto, so what's stopping him from explaining technology that has acquired enough intellect to act as pets? He could use the concept of the Singularity as justification for machine mons.

But yes

>>29552654
Wonder how he'll pull Magnezone.
Or the Octillery line for that matter.

He's going to make Octillery a jellyfish and Remoraid a parasitifc polyp, isn't he?

>>29550966
Kek. Fpbp.

>>29551057
Re

>>29566205
*Kek

>>29565891
>so what's stopping him from explaining technology that has acquired enough intellect to act as pets
Because AI are not living things, and the entire point of his projects is making living things. It's a very simple concept, autists on /vp/ seem to struggle to understand

>>29559829
>things (he) can't comprehend
>a crab

do you read your posts before you post them, anon?

>>29566395
We understand it just fine, but it just breaks down as a concept almost right away. There have been non-animal Pokemon since day one. Turning a ghost or a sword or a pile of toxic waste into an animal makes no sense when you've also got animals that are perpetually on fire and don't die. Not to mention the aforemention goblin sharks that should be hammerheads, and turtles that should be apatosaurs.

His definition of "something that could exist in nature" is incredibly fucking arbitrary.

>>29560862
Dragonite IS a salamander. Why do you think it looks so fat?

>>29558108
This. How do these autists not get his interpretation?

>>29560862
Actually Dragonite as a salamander made me actually like the Pokemon.

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>>29551057

>>29552654
>Magnet crabs
I'm surprised that I actually like this.

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>>29554247
>Give celebi a super realistic mantis body
>Keep the anime face

Did he just give up or what?

>>29564206
Nice

>>29554148

>why doesn't this artist draw what I want they way I want it??

>>29553839
You mean he has no imagination
>>29556023
This

>>29567483

It takes a lot more imagination to take a real animal and transform it into a Pokemon than to take a Pokemon and draw it with realistic textures. You're just upset he doesn't draw things the way you like.

>>29558108
>ghosts aren't real
is this fag serious?

>>29557671
That was the only funny part of that movie and it was already in the trailers

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I like this Wobbuffet interpretation because it's almost alien looking.

but well done, really.

>>29566533
I don't know man, it doesn't seem to be very arbitrary the fact swords are not living things in this world and that when you have a project to redesign Pokémon as IRL animals you'll have to change the sword to something.

Also, none of the animals Arvalis does are always on fire. Charizard is probably the one you're talking about, and he talks about flamming oils, which altough a bit reaching is actually possible.

Show me a living object in this world or quit being an autist

>>29555093
disgusting

>hurr let's put calamari into hollow trees

I kinda hate this guys bullshit drawings.
the only good interpretation was Onix and Steelix being actual serpents. grey colored and massively big. no more stone structure but who cares, that looked good and not fucking stupid.

>>29571647
Things that use shells of other objects are not unknown. It is like a hermit crab but bigger and squishier.

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realistic gastly
/thread

>>29572242
How is a sphere with a face on it realistic?

>>29572242
That's a Ghastly with realistic textures, not a realistic Ghastly

>>29572283
I'm sorry I thought spheres existed in real life.

>>29558675
holy shit!
venusaur you are scary!

>>29572325
Spheres do not exist in nature, only manufactured ideals. And they don't have faces.

>>29572283
How is your head realistic

>>29553590
It's not clever at all it's a fucking painted animal. Get Arvalis' dick out of your mouth it's lame.

>>29559715
Fuck thats ugly

>>29553839
Stop sucking his cock it's a lack of imagination. There are animals in real life with see through heads and mouths on hinges, he can do a bit better than "it's a fucking armadillo".

>>29572402
By being a structure of specialized cells into a larger unit that serves a unified overall goal of continued existence to reproduce.

>>29553982
Nobody said it would be easy why do you want people to kiss his ass for not trying hard enough you cocksucker.

>>29572453
Rather, he approached it from "What kind of creature would benefit from appearing to look like a ball?" and came to armadillo and worked backwards.
It isn't a literal translation of the function, but the form.

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>mfw I'm dating arvalis
>mfw I tell him about these threads and we laugh about it over Skype

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>>29554247
agree, i dont like his art. he's talented but what he draw is nto pokemon.

>>29559729
>>29559729
the guy just redesign pokemon. One think is take some liberties, other thing is change the animal they are based on their concept.

this is not realistic pokemon, those are animals morphed with pokemons. Pokemons are not animals though.

>>29555180
I agree, it's fucking stupid.
Don't listen to the apologists, they're just desperate to keep posting artistic pokemen to their group chats.

>>29559829
That's the problem. It's fine to not make things literal metal balls with eyes or metal attached but don't take an existing animal and paint it to look vaguely like a Pokemon at the right angle. There's so much biodiversity you don't have to do that. Honedge doesn't HAVE to just be a more or less real bug that looks like a sword, make it something chitinous that looks like a bug. Make it look like it evolved from this world, not like it's something from our world cosplaying. Jesus Christ you shills are fucking annoying, did he give you all rimjobs if you promised to say his work is good? It's fucking lazy.

>>29572393
>Spheres do not exist in nature

ghastly is a ghost. ghosts are what? supernatural or paranormal, call it what you want.

so it's something that defies nature. therefore this design choice is perfectly reasonable.
checkmate, atheist.

>>29572393
bro, pokemon is a fantasy world. There's pokemon whoa re supposed to lok cute, like pikachu and swablu, and other are supposed to look strong liek for example charizard. A lot of fanasrtists fail to get it.

Gastly is a ghost shadow ball, so dont make it a fly, because gastly is NOT a fly. Aeglilash is not a bug. So go on...

In uour real world spheres dont exist in nature, but in pokemon world they do, and if pokemon were real, it would exist as well.

>>29572942
So instead Honedge should be a creature that stores its internal organs inside a metal case and uses electromagnetism to move around? Or a creature that is closer to a snail and scuffles around the world using a tassel-looking foot? Seems like taking a sheath-winged insect shaped like a sheath with a sword-like body would be a way of making a flying sword monster.

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>>29559504
Amphibian Dragonite I will admit I will always like.

>>29572997
If Pokémon were real, then realistic Pokémon would be identical to the version that always existed.

>>29562227
This.

>>29552654
>Flying crabs
>realism
Pick one

>>29570493
There are animals capable of incorporating metals into their bodies or naturally producing it. It could certainly be possible to incorporate that ability into an animal that creates a swordlike appendage it is actually able to use for defense. Or it could be a fucking tool user like the Pokemon itself. The sword isn't alive, but the animal using it is.

Making a bug that kind of looks like a sword but can't actually be used as one misses the point of the Pokemon and is creatively bankrupt.

>>29573031
Yeah.

This thread has gotten as retarded as "is eevee a cat or a dog" threads. Stop getting mad at art. Look at whatever you like. Ignore what you don't and let people enjoy it if you want.

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>>29554247
That poor Chikorita

>>29573134
What says that it cannot be used as a sword? Could have the exoskeleton very hard at edges and have mating duels based on the two crashing sides at each other until one of the two break.

>>29573134
>creates a swordlike appendage

Then it wouldn't look like Honedge it would look like an animal holding a sword that kind of looks like Honedge

>>29572997
>The entire point of Arvalis is translating pokémon into things that could exist IRL with IRL rules
>this is clearly stated in his descriptions
>BUT BRO IN POKÉMON WORLD GHOSTS EXIST, SO WHY SHOULDN'T THEY EXIST INT HIS WORLD, WHY IS ARVALIS NOT MAKING GHOSTS?!!

I'm convinced this is trolling at this point. Either that or the levels of iliteracy in this board are alarmingly high

>>29572604
So I was right. Whoever is doing all this shilling is clearly doing it because they literally suck his dick. Amazing.

>>29572538
I get the idea. It's a boring one. It's a painted armadillo. As a Texan I can't imagine anything less exciting. Litwick line he was going the right direction - they're creatures clearly related to jellyfish but beyond that they look like themselves. They look like a new species of invertebrate. I'm fine with that. That's just a painted armadillo.

>>29573014
Those ideas are fine I can't tell if I'm supposed to find them ridiculous or something. Look. If you look at that bug in a certain way, it's no longer a Honedge. It's clearly a bug. Nobody is going to see it as a sword. Yes it can be those things. We have animals that look like actual rocks filled with guts in the real world. He can do better. That bug could have been better. It's clearly a bug.

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>>29573027

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This is the best try I could find for the Vanillite line

>>29551024
Well, Gastly is a ghost made out of gas, so a real life version of it wouldn't have fucking eyes.

>>29560354
>>29559774
>misrepresenting your point

And he did just that by thinking the quotes are all there is to the argument.

>>29565198
No. What's fucking boring is taking the existing pokemon and adding a furry texture to it.

>>29573379
Huh? It would look like a Honedge if it wasn't in flight. You mean if it was on its back that you could still see the sword-looking part? Or is it about how it flies being different than Honedge would?

>>29573320
Nah I've only posted in this thread a couple times, and not since last night. Honestly I'm surprised it's still going.

I get that his stuff isn't for everyone. Obviously I'm biased to like it, and I like his dino stuff a lot too, part of what attracts me to him most is how passionate he is about things he loves like Pokemon and alien and t-rexes.

If it's not your taste it's perfectly fine. But I've worked conventions with him and seen how many people approach his booth with huge eyes when they see his banner and realize who it is. It's really cool. He's inspired a lot of people to draw and to do their own "realistic Pokemon", which is a big win in my book.

>>29554592
and scyther is a fucking raptor just because the muzzle and legs.
fuck this guy

>>29573527
Scyther isn't exactly a paragon of mantisness.

>>29573216
Because the "sword" is clearly the bug's abdomen. IRL bugs don't fight with their bodies, they have purpose built natural weapons like horns or stingers. If the Honedge bug fights using its abdomen instead of a real weapon, it's getting less realistic, not more. Also, mating duels are typically nonlethal and go to submission, not injury. Bug just demonstrate who's stronger instead of actually breaking anything.

>>29573243
Depends on how it's done (could be a flattish wormlike thing for the tassel with a metal tail and look more accurate), but either way incorporating an actual weapon makes it better than the bug that's not actually a sword.

>>29572298
>it's a tree with apples in it, not an apple tree

>>29573758
Did the tree in question produce those apples? Or are they from another tree and taped to the branches?

>>29573758
>>29573822
Please stop and let this thread die.

>>29573464
I mean it's underside wouldn't resemble a Honedge given it has legs. Not to mention the wings are already stretching it.

>>29573957
Pinsir's anatomy makes no fucking sense.

>>29574007
that's literally Pinsir's anatomy though

>>29574408
The two are not mutually exclusive.

>>29573379
Speaking of, if he's going for easily translated animals, why didn't he use the literally living rock for geodude instead of a frog?

Holy fuck the autism in this thread

>>29555171
That's a fucking honedge? i thought it was a sigilith or something

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>>29553880
Maybe it's just a Haro painted like a Pokeball.

Just wanted to do this
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>>29573420
This person has gone into samefag overdrive, learn how to vocabulary

>>29572604
Tell your "boyfriend" to get better and for both of you to take criticism instead of being like "lol what a bunch of fags with no lives XDEEEE" because no one acts like that unless it's to exclusively irritate people

>>29573408
>bunch of happy little hermit crabs who live in the cold
I dig it.