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>>29495086
But it is tho

>>29495086
It's based on an extinct species of owl and guardian spirits from Hawaiin lore you ditz.

Autistic OP one step away from REEEEEE.

Literally kill your self it it triggers you that much. Ghost Owl is perfect.

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And? What is the point if he doesn't even have any Ghost-type aspects to him in his design? He doesn't fucking look like a Ghost-type by no possible angle, same with the shitty cat receiving the Dark-type. It is clear they just realized they fucked up with their designs and went with a retarded type-decision they should've went when making the FUCKING DESIGNS IN THE FIRST PLACE.
Now we are stuck with a Fire/Dark pokemon that looks like Fire/Fighting and a Grass/Ghost pokemon that looks like a Grass/Flying. Absolute GARBAGE.
Why couldn't this be dark-type? what makes this mroe ghost than dark? Every single ghost type in Pokemon is associated with or does something something paranormal. I can't think of one exception. Some of them are more literal ghosts than others like Cofagrigus versus Jellicent who is just ghost because its said to feed on souls. Jellicent is notable because it actually wasn't concepted as a Ghost-type, but made Ghost to balance out types in the Pokedex of BW, so that's about as far to that side spectrum of being Ghost type versus the opposite side of being an actual ghost as you can possibly get that and STILL has the the soul sucker that haunts sunken ships thing to try and justify it. Decidueye has nothing. We know the concept of ill omens and such are at least as Dark as it is Ghost because of stuff like Absol and Murkrow, and at least they acknowledge that that's the concept behind them. Decidueye doesn't say anything about it being a bad omen or having spiritual associations or anything.

There's plenty of other ghosts to enjoy :^)
You're lucky that it is ghost otherwise I wouldn't pick this piece of shit. Grass/Flying = shit.
kill yourself

>literally copy and pasted from the thread yesterday
Have fun with that OP

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It's a ghost because of pic related.

>>29495150
Take your autistic ass back to bed

>>29495086
You see OP, you made the mistake of framing your poll in a way to lean people toward agreeing with your opinion without realizing that /vp/ and 4chan at large is extremely spiteful and contrarian.

Classic blunder.
t. Retarded fanboy

Manipulating shadows is a ghost type trait.
Decidueye manipulates shadows.
Its signature move involves it stitching shadows.
Its TCG deck name is The Forest Shadow.

>>29495086
u mad?

>>29495248
if gamefreak decided to give him an electric arrow signature move everyone would be coming up with bullshit explanations about how its completly justified for him to be grass/electric

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Designer - "Yo Masuda check out these wicked designs, here's this awesome burly fire/fighting wrestling cat, this sneaky stealthy grass/dark sniper owl and I wanted the water seal to be fairy type so I just turned him into a girl!"
Masuda - "Sorry dude, I know its becoming a tradition but fans will throw a shitstorm if we have another fire/fighting starter. How about you make him fire/dark? just come up with some bullshit about how he fights dirty."
Designer - "B-but, the grass starter already has dark as a secondary type"
Masuda - "Hmmm... just switch it to ghost, uh, owls are kinda spooky... I guess."
Designer - "Done and done. Thanks senpai you're a genius, it's no wonder you're heading the pokemon franchise."

>>29495297
They didn't so oh well.

The games do t cater to you or your autism, you spoiled cunt. Don't like it? Don't use it.

Your opinion isn't automatically correct because it's yours. Children in kindergarten learn that lesson. What's your excuse you pathetic twat?

Snipers are stealthy
Snipers are sometimes called ghosts
Decidueye is stealthy
Decidueye is ghost type

>>29495086
Still butthurt eh?

>>29495150
>Being THIS mad

>>29495328
>Strawman: The Post
Also, you can't look me in the eye and tell me Venusaur and Blastoise don't look fucking stupid in that art.

>>29495373
stealth, sneakyness is a dark type trait, hence the ninja frog being dark

feint attack
night slash
sucker punch

>>29495373
I'm a human
Human always die
All gosths are dead
Humans are ghosts.

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>>29495086
>He's still at it

>>29495425
this is how retarded you guys sound tbphwyf

>>29495328
2016's grass and water are better designed than 1996's.
Charizard still beats Incineroar though, his simplicity is nearly untouchable. That's one of the benefits of early gens: they were able to make stuff have really cool, basic, fundamental designs, because it hadn't been done before.

>>29495150
>complain about terrible/repeat typing
>complain about typings that your dumbass refuses to accept
Just fuck off please, no one wants or needs you here

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>>29495086
I think you may have actual autism. Like, not the autism we all just go around parroting that other people on this board have. Like, ACTUAL autism. You might need to see a psychologist.

>>29495373
This and the fact that Decidueye is an owl, which are/were omens of death in several cultures

>>29495150
His irises are glowing orange, nigga's clearly possessed.

>>29495086
Oh boy, can't wait to see this autistic garbage every day until release.

D E C I D U E Y E

can we all at least agree that this is easily the worst pokemon name ever?

>>29495541
Incineroar is pretty bad but at least it's easy to pronounce
>Decid-yoo-eye
>Decid-way
>Decid-ewee
>Cuckold

Like what the fuck
Primarina is actually kawaii

>>29495541
Eh, it's up there but its not really the worst. That crown will always be on Seel's head.

deciduous+eye

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>>29495086

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I swear I saw something like this yesterday. Oh right, this whole thread is pastas.

>>29495541
Yes, but it's better than robinroot
Because it's an owl not a robin
But forcing "deciduous" in there is really weird. It doesn't blend with "eye" naturally. Incineroar is easy to say and so is Primarina (but in that case sirenade is just straight up better and trannyfaggot is more accurate so it's still very shit)

>>29495086
calm down and take your fucking pills, wayne

Where's the "Yes, and OP is a cum guzzling faggot" option in the strawpoll

>>29495328
It's kinda depressing when you put Gen 1 and 7 starters side by side.

Only Decidueye is decent and still, not as cool as Venusaur

>>29495758
Venusaur looks awful. End your life. Venusaur completely ruined Ivysaur and Bulbasaur.

Can't believe people like this fat ugly lazy toad.

>>29495815
It looks pretty much like Ivysaur, except the flower is in full bloom and got past the rebellionous edgy teenager phase and now is chill af

End your life, you gay retard

>>29495758
t. Genwunner

>>29495912
t. underage assmad nextgenner

>>29495086
Is this the new meme?

Darmanitan uses belly drum.
Darmanitan uses superpower.
Crashes into the bird with the force of a thousand suns.
>No damage.

Fuck off.
It's a bird, not a incorporeal demon, or an empty clay monster, or a possessed doll.

It's literally an owl. A living breathing animal.

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>>29495150
Your retarded argument would make more sense if Ghost was its primary type, but it isn't. Pokémon's designs usually favor their primary type, and the grass type in him clearly shows.

@29495933
thanks for the (You)

>>29495968
That's the only thing that bothers me about it. I really can't imagine the owl being incorporeal. Looks weird

>>29495578

how about:

>dizzy-dway?

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>The bird is known by many common names which refer to its appearance, call, habitat, or its eerie, silent flight:
>white owl, silver owl, demon owl, ghost owl, death owl, church owl, cave owl, stone owl, hissing owl, hobgoblin owl, white-breasted owl, screech owl
>GHOST OWL

>>29495653
>Because an owl is not a robin
The name was based on Robin Hood, not the bird Robin. Everyone knows owls aren't birds.

>>29495328
I bet if the new starters were in watercolor they would fit in better in this picture.

>>29495653
It's based on deadeye, I think. So instead of deh-d-eye, it's deh-cid-jew-eye.

>>29495343
Ow the edge

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>>29495086
How is this a problem to you?

>>29496012
I bet you think alolan exeggutor is great because of muh dragon tree

>>29495086
>hating Decidueye
People with shit taste like this should be sterilized.

>>29496156
Alolan Exegg looks cool and wacky

>>29496048
That would make a lot more sense, but... is deadeye really a term for snipers/marksmen? It sounds like it would be but I looked it up and it's like a thing for rigging ships.

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I messily fixed your ghost owl.

>>29495150
Owls are associated with spirits and the dead in several cultures, in addition to other spooky bullshit like witchcraft.
It's not GF's fault that you don't know shit about owls.

>>29496156
You're probably just a picky little asshole.

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>>29496408
Crows are associated with spirits and the dead in several cultures, in addition to other spooky bullshit like witchcraft.
It's not GF's fault that you don't know shit about crows.

>>29495970
It's flying type shows even more

>>29496378
Much better for the typing.

>>29496012
You're thinking of barn owls and Decidueye isn't one

>>29495086
In my country owls are a sign of death. If you hear them it means someone close to you will perish.

>>29496531
Just like Absol (dark type)

>>29495968
>>29495992
It just avoids the attack.

Just because a type is immune to an other type doesn't literally mean that the attacks pass through. They could just be exceedingly good at dodging certain types of attacks. Use your imagination.

>>29496378
The dying leaves would fix 75% of the problem.
It's fucking called Decidueye, i.e. decidious, i.e. the leaves die and fall off.

Having gnarly branches or something would be even better.

>>29496378
Now THIS looks like a leggit ghost type. The original looks nothing like a ghost or spiritual being in any way

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>>29495150
autism level through the roof

To be honest a better name for Ghost types would probably be Spooky type. Spooky owls are nothing new, in fact I'm surprised it's taken this long to get a Ghost type owl.

>>29496466
A Ghost type Murkrow would be a great regional variant.

Is this the hot new autism post

>>29496378
if anything the "cloak" and/or wings need to be black and the body needs to stay white

>>29496466
Yeah. And if Murkrow were part ghost instead of dark, I'd be absolutely okay with that.
But they seemingly decided the owl would get the spirits and dead bit, while the crow gets the miscellaneous spooky shit like being associated with witchcraft.

I'm not saying Decidueye wouldn't fit as a dark type. I'm saying that it does have a passable reason for being a ghost type.

>>29495968
>Darmanian used superpower!
>It doesn't effect shuppet...

Fuck off. It's a puppet. It's a piece of fabric that's possessed by a spoopy ghost, not an actual fucking ghost. There's a handful of ghosts that are possessed objects/living things with spirit powers since gen 3 and they've been increasing in rate in recent generations. The owl is a spirit medium. Get the fuck over it.

>>29496796
>fabric possessed by an evil spirit
>equivalent to a living animal
wew
lad

>>29496310
It's dead eye, not deadeye. Dead meaning having a level of absoluteness, like dead drunk or dead heat or dead on. Being dead-eyed means you have an absolute sense of aim.

>>29495086

>implying owls are birds

>>29496875
>Jellicent

>>29495541

Talonflame exists. So no.

>>29496909
and Sableye

>>29496541
>bad omens are exclusive to Dark-types
Meeting with your doppelganger means you'll fucking die. But what type is Gengar?

>>29496909
Literally a ghost. Jellyfish are ethereal creatures in themselves, so they're a good choice for a ghost.
But an owl? It's a bird. Big, beaky, flappy bird.
The humanlike glasses and emotions don't help. Jellicent is creepy because it has basically a fixed facial expression.

Literally nobody expected the ghost typing on big birb, because it's fucking nonsense.

>>29496025
And the name doesn't work for the kind of animal that the Rowlet is based on. It's like having my mom's dog as a thief Pokemon but having its name be a pun off of a catburglar. No, it doesn't work because owls aren't even close to robins.

>>29495192
Underated post

>>29495328
> just come up with some bullshit about how he fights dirty
"Dark" type is literally called "Evil" type in Japanese, you uncultured swine.

>>29496952
>an incorporeal purple demon

>>29496993
>Trees are ethereal creatures
>Balloons are ethereal creatures
>Golems are ethereal creatures

>>29497033
>goblins are incorporeal

>>29495150
Well well, what do we have here. It's another "a well thought out post gets ridiculed by celsius tier IQ, subhuman, mentally ill, gamefreak sucking faggots of /vp/" case. Colour me surprised.

>>29497033
>color decides the type
I love Weezing. It's my favorite Ghost-type. It floats, is gassy, and has a skull on its body. But most importantly, it's purple.

>>29496909
even gamefreak admitted that jellicent was originally not a ghost type but they added it to balance out the rest of the dex. that's why they add to come up with an ultra spooky dex story to try and justify it

>>29497021
how does that invalidate what he says? all you gotta do to make a pokemon dark type is saying hurr he is mean and uses dirty tactics.

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>>29495086
Hey OP

captcha: welcome zone

>>29497067
Well well, what do we have here? It's another "pasta from a thread we had yesterday gets defended ironically by a memelord" case. Color me surprised.

>>29497033
>Sableye is a lost soul
Friend, do you even know how types work ? Sableye is primary Dark and secondary Ghost because it's not a real ghost, it's just a mischievous cave dwelling goblin who's only part Ghost because it lives in darkness and can turn itself "invisible" by camouflaging in the darkness. It's no way a real ghost.

Also, Marowak and Sensu Oricorio are now a thing.

>>29497086
>all you gotta do to make a pokemon dark type is saying hurr he is mean and uses dirty tactics.
Yes. Design-wise you can make anything you want.

>>29497086
And all you gotta do to make a Pokemon Ghost-type is saying hurr it's spooky. Look at Drifloon. Really, look at it without taking its Dex info into account, and tell me what type it appears to be.

>>29497041
Herpaderp. Why not list all of the ghost types so I can explain them to you?

Haunted trees, a tree possessed by an evil spirit. It follows the same logic as banette.

Balloons are ethereal, yes. Especially to children, who are fascinated by them. Drifloon preys on children.

Golems are clay given soul. Golurk is an empty husk filled with ghost energy. You can see how it's bolted shut. Similar logic to banette.
Not to mention they are artificially created by a mysterious culture.

None of your desperate examples are equivalent to a living breathing bird. You cannot dispute this.

>>29497059
>>29497142
Sableye clearly is incorporeal if it chooses. It's a supernatural creature, not a big birb.

>>29497179
Show me whete it says Sableye can phase through walls.

>>29496909
>>29496993
Jellicent shouldn't even count since it wasn't supposes to be a ghost type originally. Gf only slapped on the ghost typing because they wanted to balance out the Unova Pokedex.


Also why is Drifbloon a ghost pokemon but Jiggypuff isn't? Both are balloons and I keep seeing the argument p that being a balloon is a good enough reason to be a ghost type.

>>29497041
>tree

possessed

>balloon

possessed

>golem

possessed

>>29497214
Loot at its Emerald sprite. It can phase itself out of physical being.

>>29497179
Jigglypuff is my favorite Ghost-type! Balloons are ephemeral, after all. :^)

>>29495086
>implying owls are birds

>>29497140
Pastas are the source of the purest kind of knowledge, my autisic famalam

>>29497219
>Why isn't X a Y type.
You could use this non-argument for hundreds of pokemon. It's completely irrelevant.

Why IS Decidueye a ghost type, that's what we're talking about.

>>29497235
Now you're reaching

>>29497235
Not an argument retard.

Why isn't pikachu a normal type? Raticate is!!!!

>>29497232
It's doing what I said in my previous post, it "turns" itself black to cloak in the darkness of the cave similar to a chameleon.

And again, primary types. Ever wondered why Sableye is Dark/Ghost, but Spiritomb is Ghost/Dark ? Because Spiritomb is a REAL ghost unlike Sableye.

>>29495150
Saving this to my pasta collection.

To be consistent, the Assassin Owl and Ninja Frog should have had the same secondary type, whatever it was.
Discuss.

>>29497175
purple hints towards poison or ghost. balloon and the little cloud says air so flying. we already have a floating poisonous gas and possessed objects are a ghost theme, so ill go ahead and guess he is ghost/flying :^)

>>29497289
>every bird pokemon isn't a REAL bird.
Yamete.

>>29497086
Dark typing's connotation is more of one that is involved with the night or working with darkness while evil as a typing is more of how the Pokemon is malicious in nature or it using dirty tactics. There are some stark differences.

>>29497291
There is no discussion. That is simply a fact.

>>29497263
Because it controls shadows and shadows is one of things that fall under ghost types.

It's the same reason while some fire types aren't just elemental balls of fire but simply creatures that can manipulate fire.

>>29497302
Mate, you just don't get it, do you ?

>>29495086
YOU ARE NOT AN ADULT AND YOU NEVER WILL BE

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>>29495192

>>29496573
>Use your imagination.
Hitmonchan uses mega punch, and the owl dodges like an absolute fedora-tipping pro.

Hitmonchan uses fire punch, AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.


There I used it. How'd I do?

>>29496378
this looks like ghost/grass

not a grass/ghost

>>29497276
Using the Dex as an argument to excuse Drifloon and Drifblim is valid, but you cannot dismiss Decidueye's ghostly behaviors that are also stated in its bio if you go that route. If you're going off of looks alone, then Drifloon does not look like a Ghost-type, and saying balloons are ephemeral means that Jigglypuff and Qwilfish could pass as Ghost-types.

>>29497291
yes and it should be dark

B-BUT STEALTH ISNT A DARK THING

>Umbreon evolved as a result of exposure to the moon's waves. It hides silently in darkness and waits for its foes to make a move. The rings on its body glow when it leaps to attack.
go ahead a read how many umbreon dex entries alude to darkness, moon, night...

>>29495992
golurk is incorporeal?

>>29497355
Neither of those are literal balloons.

Pufferfish actually exist.
Jigglypuff is a balloon like mammal, which is cute and fluffy and pink. Fluffy puffy pink stuff is cute.
Drifloon is a literal spooky balloon.

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>>29496378
>>29496747

>>29497369
It's a hollow clay automaton.
Key word being hollow, as in it's not actually alive, like for instance an owl would be.

>>29497349
>Marowak uses Bonemerang on Doduo

>>29497365
also, feint attack, sucker punch, night slash

>>29497412
>implying bonemerang doesn't travel through the ground
Use your imagination.

>>29497365
Stealth is partly a dark thing, but shadow manipulation and shadow magic is a ghost thing.

>this thread
This is proof autists shouldn't play Pokemon. Not all Ghost types are lost souls and pokemon can be any type they want as long as it thematically make sense. Done.

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>>29495086

>>29497399
This one is much better

>>29497349
kek

>>29497410
Ghost types aren't actually dead things, buddy. They wouldn't eat or lay eggs otherwise.
Just like being a flying type doesn't mean you'll be able to fly.

>>29497410
why does no one bitch that the owl is also a plant?

>>29497397
>Drifloon is literally a balloon
Oh man balloons are so spooky and ghostly. And it's justified since it drags kids into hell according to the Pokedex. What's that, Decidueye can seemingly disappear and mess with your shadow like some sort of spirit? REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE IT DOESN'T COUNT

>>29497474
>balloon spirit is equivalent to a living owl
You're doing it again.

>>29497432
And how does Decidueye fit thematically as a Shost type? And fon't give me the "itz extincded" response, because then every fossil mon should be part Ghost.

>>29497495
>Ghost-type is equivalent to a non-living creature
You too, buddy.

>>29497525
>ghost
>not non-living
Lad, you need to re-evaluate your life.

>>29497499
And how does Drifloon fit thematically as a Ghost-type? And don't give me the "it drags kids to hell" response, because then the school bus should be part Ghost.

>>29497499
Everyone already said, it uses the shadows as a mean of hunting and camouflage. It's not hard at all to comprehend. It's the same reason Sableye's second type is Ghost, it lives in shadows and away from the sun.

>>29497499
Shadows have been part of ghost types' themes since the beginning. Every single move that has to do with shadows is ghost typed.
We've had pokemon before like Giratina who aren't dead things and are simply shadow monsters.

Here we have an owl, that manipulates shadows. It has a signature move that stitches shadows.
It probably learns shadow force and shadow sneak.
Its TCG set is called Forest Shadow.
You can reliably assume this fucker turns into shadows and uses shadows to fight.

Shadow manipulation is delegated to ghost types, thus Decidueye fits as a ghost type.

>>29497365
>go ahead a read how many umbreon dex entries alude to darkness, moon, night..

NO! STOP!
Dark!=Night
Dark==Evil tactics

Umbreon dex entry:
>It hides silently in darkness and waits for its foes to make a move.
It's a fucking opportunistic coward
>When agitated, this Pokémon protects itself by spraying poisonous sweat from its pores
Poison is also a cheap move.

The moonlight shit is just a coincidence.
Stop being so uncultured at your hobbies.

>>29497566
There is no school bus pokemon.

Why is every response defending the ghost owl a complete non-argument.
Really makes you think.

>>29497547
Oh man, just like every single flying type can fly, right?
Just how every bug type is a literal bug?
Just how every normal type is completely normal and not a beam shooting magical creature?

>>29497576
>greninja is evil
Delete this.

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>>29496378
>people think this is good
This exemplifies what is wrong with /vp/. It's comprised of anons who were once that chubby kid in your social studies class who drew his own Pokemon.

This is subjective, but if I tuck away my bias against fakemon for a minute, I can honestly say that it's one of the worst I've seen.

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>Being this mad
>Not loving every ghost, even Decidueye, unconditionally

You aren't a real Ghost lover and you never will be. Fuck outta here.

>>29497547
>non-living things are capable of reproduction

>>29497604
He fights underhandedly. Look at his movepool. He's a total asshole in the way he fights. This is why Greninja is a dark type, while the other ninja pokemon Accelgor is not a dark type. You can see the differences in their fighting styles through their movepool.

All of this and all I can think of is that he's basically like Green Arrow mixed in with the Phantom and especially the Spirit and The Shadow.
Also he could just be a Revenant type undead like The Crow.

>>29497573
FUCKING THIS, thank you. You don't have to be dead to be a Ghost type. It's literally the Shadow type (I'm pretty sure it's called like that in Japanese as well).

>>29497619
Apparently they can.
Yamask can breed, yes?

>>29497591
Maybe it's because legitimately arguing with you last night was completely pointless, retard, especially when you willfully ignore owls being culturally harbingers of death and have connections to the underworld. So we might as well use your shitty logic against you.

>>29497636
ゴーストタイプ

Now you're pulling bullshit our of your flustered asshole in a desperate attempt to try and be right in the face of insurmountable reasoning.

ITT: fanboys sucking gamefreak's dick, not able to admit Decidueye's typing has been forced on it due to competitive reasons. It's lore and concept indicates its a grass/flying type.

Personally, I'm ok with the typing but some users shilling for mistakes simply blows my mind

>>29497499
>Among the Kikuyu of Kenya, it was believed that owls were harbingers of death. If one saw an owl or heard its hoot, someone was going to die. In general, owls are viewed as harbingers of bad luck, ill health, or death.

>Pliny tells us how, on one occasion, even Rome itself underwent a lustration, because one of them strayed into the Capitol. He represents it also as a funereal bird, a monster of the night, the very abomination of human kind.

>Virgil describes its death-howl from the top of the temple by night, a circumstance introduced as a precursor of Dido's death.

>Ovid, too, constantly speaks of this bird's presence as an evil omen; and indeed the same notions respecting it may be found among the writings of most of the ancient poets."

>A list of "omens drear" in John Keats' Hyperion includes the "gloom-bird's hated screech."

>According to Apache and Seminole tribes, hearing owls hooting is considered the subject of numerous "bogeyman" stories told to warn children to remain indoors at night or not cry too much, otherwise the owl may carry them away. In some tribal legends, owls are associated with spirits of the dead, and the bony circles around an owl's eyes are said to comprise the fingernails of apparitional humans. Sometimes owls are said to carry messages from beyond the grave or deliver supernatural warnings to people who have broken tribal taboos

>The Aztecs and Maya, along with other natives of Mesoamerica, considered the owl a symbol of death and destruction. The Aztec god of death, Mictlantecuhtli, was often depicted with owls. There is an old saying in Mexico: Cuando el tecolote canta, el indio muere ("When the owl cries/sings, the Indian dies"). The Popol Vuh, a Mayan religious text, describes owls as messengers of Xibalba (the Mayan "Place of Fright").

STOP SHAMING HIM!!!

If Decidueye identifies as a ghost we need to accept him for who he is! He is a beautiful, strong, spooky ghost and he is not confused!

>>29497669
Your.
Opinion.

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>>29497566
>because then the school bus should be part Ghost.
Exactly! Or you don't think that Catbus would make a perfect Ghost type?

>>29497681
Omens are literally dark or psychic type lad. Look up every ominous pokemon.

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>people on this board are so stupid that they don't understand secondary typing means the pokemon just tends to have attributes of that type
Gyarados is water/flying
that nigga dont fly

>>29497647
If it can reproduce and pass down its genes, then it's a living thing. Especially if it has an identifiable sex and can reproduce with things that are also clearly living beings.

>>29495086
>robinhoot

Denialfags just don't give up, do they?

>>29497717
But it's dead. A spirit.

A living breathing fleshy flappy owl is not.

>>29497681
The belief that owls are messengers and harbingers of the dark powers is also found among the Hočągara (Winnebago) of Wisconsin. When in earlier days the Hočągara committed the sin of killing enemies while they were within the sanctuary of the chief's lodge, an owl appeared and spoke to them in the voice of a human, saying, "From now on the Hočągara will have no luck." This marked the beginning of the decline of their tribe.

>An owl appeared to Glory of the Morning, the only female chief of the Hočąk nation, and uttered her name. Soon afterwards she died.

>According to the culture of the Hopi, a Uto-Aztec tribe, taboos surround owls, which are associated with sorcery and other evils.

>Ojibwe tribes, as well as their Aboriginal Canadian counterparts, used an owl as a symbol for both evil and death. In addition, they used owls as a symbol of very high status of spiritual leaders of their spirituality.

>Pueblo people associated owls with Skeleton Man, the god of death and spirit of fertility.

>>29497669
Being able to fly does not mean you're a flying type, otherwise shit like Volcarona, Genesect or Mew would be flying types.
Being a bird does not mean you're a flying type.

It's a shadow magic user that uses shadow magic and archery to fight. Shadow manipulation is delegated to ghost types as shown by every single pokemon move that starts with shadow.
You do not have to be dead to be a ghost type. You can simply have either powers over the occult (like A-Marowak, Jellicent, Oricorio) or you can simply be a shadow monster (Giratina, Decidueye)

>>29497714
Dude every bird pokemon lmao.
It doesn't really fly.

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>>29497714

>>29497666
Satan please, you clearly don't have reading comprehension since I said "right ?" in the sense "I'm not sure", not "I'm 100% positive". Your autism really is showing.

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>>29495086
This guy again

>>29497704
Ominous Wind is a ghost type move.

>>29497739
>The belief that owls are messengers and harbingers of the dark powers
>messengers and harbingers of the dark powers
>harbingers of the dark powers
>dark powers
>dark
>dark
>dark

>>29497666
Congrats, you proved one point wrong, but not the whole argument. That still doesn't prove the argument about Ghost-types not necessarily being literal ghosts wrong.

>>29497221
>owl

possessed

>>29497796
Every other ghost type aside from this living owl is a literal ghost.

You cannot dispute this.

>>29497788
>the usage of dark in a wikipedia article is that same way the usage of dark is in pokemon

>>29497725
>implying that's not what 90% of /vp/ is going to name their Rowlet

It will never not be Robinhoot to me

It's a Yokai.

>>29497815
I'm glad we agree.

NoA is so shit at finding names.
>Archéduc
>Silvarro
>Junaipa
And all they could find was Decidueye, that's just sad

>>29497784
DELETE THIS RIGHT NOW

>>29497810
Yeah Sensu Oricorio sure is a Ghost, right ? And Marowak.

>>29497784
Dude it should be flying type lmao. Wind.
Absolutely BTFO.

>>29497810
Jellicent
Giratina
A-Marowak
Oricorio
Golurk
Lunaala
Pumpkaboo
Gengar line are living shadows and living gas balls, not dead things
Hoopa

>>29497573
>>29497570
All of these are pulled out of your ass. Nowhere in it's bio does it allude to Decidueye having a close connection with shadows or control over them. The only thing is a move that manipulates shadows, and you say that this ACTUALLY justifies it being a Ghost type. I guess ralts is now is my favourite Ghost type, since it can manipulate shadows

>>29497735
How do you know it's breathing, just by looking at it? Maybe it's a taxidermied owl. Prove me wrong.

>>29495086
Stop spreading your sperg already, you shitter

>>29497818
Accept the change anon. Aso cool as that name is, it'll always be decidedeye or whatever the fuck

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>>29497573
>another thread where /v/edditors still can't respond to this post and just ignore it

>>29497833
>NoA
Back to /v/.

>>29497853
Marowak has been strongly linked to the dead since Gen 1.
THERE WAS A FUCKING GHOST MAROWAK IN GEN 1.

>>29497866
Ghost jellyfish.
Ghost dragon.
See above.
Ghost fairy.
Golem fuelled by ghosts.
Ghost bat.
Posessed pumpkin/bat.
>Gengar line are living shadows and living gas balls, not dead things
What happened to your secondary-type bullshit reasoning. Gengar is primary ghost, secondary poison. Oops!
Ghost portal demon.

>>29495425
I get your point but your logic is flawed. Guy just made a couple statements that are all true. Your final statement is not true and is not supported by your previous statements.

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It's another "let's pretend we knew it was ghost from the start because that totally makes sense" episode.

>>29497573
Where does it say Decidueye can manipulate shadows??? Eevee can use shadow ball but I don't see how it can manipulate shadows

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>>29497921
You just proved to me you're not only an autist, but also a brain dead moron. Neither Marowak or Oricorio are dead, they have shaman level of powers, that's why they are Ghost types.

Accept it, this gen absolutely BTFO the notion of being a Ghost type.

>>29497414
>>29497365

>feint attack
Literally "Deceptive attack"
>Sucker punch
An unanounced attack while your opponent is oblivious to your aggressive intentions
>Night Slash
"Crossroad Killing" in Japanese. A practice when a samurai, after receiving a new katana or developing a new fighting style or weapon, tests its effectiveness by attacking a human opponent, usually a random defenseless passer-by, in many cases during nighttime.

Dark is evil.

>>29497878
>This Pokémon is able to move about while completely masking its presence from others.

And then Dartrix's entry describes it developing a sixth sense.
>Dartrix is extremely sensitive to other presences in the area and can detect opponents behind it

Decidueye is wearing a ghillie suit, it's described as The Forest Shadow by tcpi themselves. It's signature move SHOWS THAT IT HAS EXPERT CONTROL OF SHADOW MAGIC.
It's a signature move. Not just some random move, but the signature move. A cornerstone move of the pokemon's design.
The fact that it's wearing a ghillie suit, it's called the Forest Shadow, it has can zip zoop around like a silent shadow, has a sixth sense, has control over shadow magic makes it a ghost type. You do not have to be literally dead to be a ghost type. Just like you don't have to fly to be a flying type or be a drop of water to be a water type.

Do you get angry that Lapras isn't immediately recognizable as an ice type?

>>29497948
>Sudowoodo

>>29497981
Ghost types don't necessarily have to be dead. They can be powered by spiritual/non tangible energy, feed on it or manipulate it, or they can be otherwordly like Giratina. Decidueye has none of that according to its description, all we know is it can use a ghost type move but so can other non ghost type pokemon

>>29497255
Dank

>>29497788
fucking retard
>>29497739
>>29497681
>harbingers of death
>someone was going to die
>harbingers of bad luck, ill health, or death
>its death-howl... a precursor of Dido's death
>gloom-bird
>spirits of the dead
>apparitional humans
>carry messages from beyond the grave
>symbol of death and destruction
>The Aztec god of death, Mictlantecuhtli, was often depicted with owls
>"When the owl cries/sings, the Indian dies"
>messengers of Xibalba (the Mayan "Place of Fright").
>An owl appeared ... and uttered her name. Soon afterwards she died
>a symbol for both evil and death
>a symbol of very high status of spiritual leaders
>Skeleton Man, the god of death and spirit of fertility

>>29497921
>you're a ghost if your mom is dead
That's dark.

>>29498054
>>29498025
Like I said, a brain dead moron.

>>29498054
THIS. Just this. People now need to open up their minds to the concept of being a Ghostfags with the introduction of Decidueye. Fuck I still can't memorize its name.

This is the new "goodra" shitpost isn't it?

>>29498054
Cloyster isn't an Ice-type. Glad we can agree.

>>29497921
It's not a ghost jellyfish. Nothing about its dex entry implies to isn't alive. It's just a sea creature that happens to be incorporeal because of how light and translucent it is.

Giratina isn't a ghost dragon. Nothing about its dex entries or lore mention ANYTHING about death. It's solidified as a shadow monster. It lives in the shadow realm, it's made of shadows and it uses shadows to attack. Wow, just like every shadow move is ghost type.

A-Marowak is a shaman with a sixth sense. It's outright said to not be dead. It's a dude that has connections with occult powers.

Oricorio is a ghost fairy? What? It's a bird that dances with undead spirits, but isn't one itself. It just channels their powers like A-Marowak does.

Golem's dex entries don't say anything about it being possessed. It's a golem powered by mysterious powers, but nothing is ever mentioned about possession or ghosts.

So Cosmog dies when it evolves? Nothing about Lunaala's entries say it is a dead or a spirit or anything.
Nothing about Gengar's lines say anything about being dead.
Nothing but headcanon from you.

>>29498122
Couldn't have said it better, thank you.

>>29497970
Again, pokemon can learn moves from types that aren't their own. Some pokemon will learn random moves from other types, but that doesn't mean they have enough control over that element to be considered that type.

Eevee just learns shadow ball, but eevee does not have the sheer mastery over shadows that Decidueye has.
Decidueye's signature move is based off a very complex shadow manipulation technique. Requires way more finesse than simply creating shadow energy.

>>29498025
>le signature move maymay
why wasn't Exceggutor normal type in Gen 1 then?

>actually using the TCG as a canon source
This is a can of worms you don't want to open.
This Forest Shadow thing is not mentioned once in the games,ONCE.The focus goes to how it's an excellent archer and shit, it's called the fucking Arrow Quill Pokémon.

I never argued that it has to be dead to be ghost type I don't know why you keep saying like you are making a point. All I am saying is that there is no rational reason as to why this pokemon should be a Ghost type. A signature move is surely not a compelling enough reason nor is TCPI forcing a theme they have already established, but with no logical basis.

>>29498122
>Golem's dex entries don't say anything about it being possessed.

I think he was referring to Golurk who is a golem(animated inanimate matter).

>>29498200
And the argument still is talking about Golurk. They likely just got the name mixed up because fuck it Golem is a stupid name for that boulder power-up from Super Mario Galaxy.

>>29498183
The lore of the signature move you ape.
Exeggcutor's signature move implies that it can use its heads to attack like bombs.
Decidueye's signature move implies it has extensive control over shadows because something called "shadow stitching" cannot be easy to do.
It's telling you right there that has has great control over shadows.
Supplemental material implies that it has control over shadows.
Its signature move implies good control over shadows.
Its design invokes a shadowy forest figure.
The dex entry says it can move undetected, by the virtue of every single other piece of supplementary information, you can use that to assume the thing uses shadows to do that.

Understand that a pokemon can both be an excellent archer and use shadowy magic to complement that. They don't exclude each other.

>>29498275
Nothing about this makes sense?
So it can use the shadows to attack? Big deal, other pokemon do that as well and they are not part Ghost. You are arguing with a set diffuclty and how much mastery a move requires that is that is 100% made up in your head and has absolutely no canon evidence. So it can stich shadows, so what? Do you know how hard is it to pack shadows to ball and throw them? Do you know how hard it is to force shadows into your claws? Do you know how masterful at shadow manipulation you have to be to strech your shadow? No, neither you or me or anyone knows. You saying that it's signature is somehow a lore cornerstone for the pokemon which is like claiming that Lugia is actually the Guardian of the Skies and not the Seas because it's signature move is flying. Piss the fuck off with your retardation, will ya?

>>29495086
There is not a single ghost in the Pokemon universe that we know of outside of that ghost in Lavender Town that you cannot catch. And you know why you can't catch it? Because its a ghost and not a Pokemon. Gengar isn't a ghost, Yamask isn't a ghost, no Pokemon is actually dead.

How the fuck can a Ghastly hatch from an egg if it is a dead Pokemon. It can't be dead if it was never alive. Ghost is a type, an attribute, that's all it ever was.

>>29495541
I get why most people don't like it, I didn't like it at first. It's hard to spell and pronounce. If it's pronounced how I think it is it sounds dumb.

Now I like it. It's weird, sounds like a codename, and doesn't sound like a name made to be trademarked. It fits the pokemon because it is a weird pokemon that sounds like he was a failed government project and went rouge.

Project Decidueye.

Story driven spin-off with shooting gallery fucking when!

Regarding the design, the owl is as Ghost as Lucario is Steel. Nothing on it appears to be ghostly or spooky.

>>29495150
Holy shit, you really seem to be effected by this. Who hurt you? If you need to talk we can talk, just contact me at 1-800-FUCK-YOU, we can sort this shit out and attempt to cure this autism. Donations are appreciated.

>>29498482
Again, severity, you mother fucker. Plenty of pokemon can use moves outside of their types.
Nidoking can learn ice beam, that doesn't mean nidoking is the king of winter storms and lives in a frozen wasteland. It just means he can learn a random move. Ice beam isn't his signature move, just like shadow sneak is not Gallade's signature move.

The fact that Decidueye is the only pokemon that can learn spirit shackle. That implies either difficulty or physiological impossibility for other pokemon.

His signature move is all about manipulating shadows. Just like Klefki's signature moves are all about being a prankster. Or a Kommo-o's signature move being about the loud sound its clanging scales make. Signature moves tell you about the pokemon's identity. Gamefreak is telling you straight up that Decidueye has very good control over shadows.

If you actually paid attention to anything in a johto game, you'd realize that Lugia lives in the sea because it's too dangerous for pokemon and humans for it fly around due to the winds it makes. This is completely thematically appropriate. It lives in and guards the sea because its power over wind is dangerous.

>>29497000
Did you read my post m8? People called it Robinroot because of Robin Hood, because they were both archers. Not because they were both birds.

>>29498768
It's signature move implies more mastery over archery than shadows, which makes more sense given it's the first mon with an archer theme in the game, so in hindshight your whole "m-muh master shadow manipulater" meme falls kinda short (and you can see in-game that it uses it's quills to pin it's enemies to the shadows).

In short it's signature move because it shoots arrows, not because is a master shadow manipulator, one is actually confirmed and constantly reminded to us by Gf and the other is your headcanon.

Yeah you are right about Lugia, I was just sperging out and gave a bad example. But you can see that themes are not always linked to types, like Lugia and water and Darkrai with nightmares.

>>29495297
>Implying people won't just bitch about anything, no matter what, forever.

>>29499255
It's signature move implies mastery over both, do you understand.
Things than imply more than one thing.
Greninja's water shuriken implies both ninja skills and power over water.
Decidueye's identity revolves around archery and shadows.

>>29499375
No. Accelgor learns water shuriken as well, because of the ninja theme and it has no connection to water.

>>29499812
Water Shuriken is still Greninja's signature move.

Signature moves get distributed to other pokemon eventually, but it is still that pokemon's signature move.

>>29499888
First of all you are absolutely wrong, the momment a different mon line learns a move that was exclusive to a mon, it is no longer considered a signature move. Again, using headcanon.

Secondly how does this dismiss the point that it focuses more on the theme (ninja,archer) than the type (water,ghost)?

>>29499977
Because when a signature move is made, it's to show you the flavor of that pokemon.

Sceptile got Leaf Blade to show you that it uses its wrist leaves as blades.

Delphox got Mystical Fire to show you that it's magical and shit.


It doesn't matter that the move was eventually distributed, the move is still the pokemon's signature move. Nothing about a signature move implies exclusivity. That's YOUR head canon.

>>29495086
someone post pic of shiny decidueye.. it looks somewhat ghostly

>>29500058
But there are signature moves that never get distributed? Yeah they show the flavour of the pokemon, like Decidueye being an archer and Greninja being a ninja, nothing about their typings. thanks for proving my point

>>29500188
Yes there ARE signature moves that don't get distributed, and there are also signature moves that do. That's exactly my point. Nothing about signature moves implies exclusivity. The only signature moves that don't usually get distributed are the ones for legendaries.

>>29495086
He feels like a ghost on the inside, why isn't that good enough for you? Who are you to tell him different?

>>29500349
Wrong. Zoroark has a signature move. And, again moves that eventually get distribution cease to be signatures.

>>29495086
the shiny version looks like it can pass as ghost type

OP, i want you to know that because of how terribly biased, i almost chose
>Yes because im a blind fanboy and will accept all of gamefreaks decisions
just to mess with your terrible poll
Don't assume other people didn't

Serves you right for being a shithead

>>29500514
Do you understand what "usually" means?
>moves that eventually get distribution cease to be signatures
This is nothing but your own head canon and has no basis in anything ever said by gamefreak.

>>29500634
GF has also never said "signature move". It's not a term that is coined by GF it's a fan term, like pseudos. You, arguing right now that water shuriken should be considered a sign move is like arguing that Volcarona should be a pseudo.

>The only signature moves that don't usually get distributed are the ones for legendaries

This implies that only legendaries are the only one with sign moves, "usually" doesn't change that in this context.

Pickachu, MewothmCubone and many others have signature moves and are not legends

>>29500800
The sheer fact that Battle Bond increases the strength of Water Shuriken and only Water Shuriken should tell you that Gamefreak considers Water Shuriken to be its signature move. The term signature move was used all the time in the marketing for Ash-Greninja. The existence of Battle Bond's mechanics prove you wrong.

>This implies that only legendaries are the only one with sign moves, "usually" doesn't change that in this context.
Usually does not mean 100% of the time. It means most of the time. Please learn english before posting on an english board.
Most exclusive signature moves belong to legendaries. This is a fact.

>>29500514
>Smeargle used Sketch
Bam, no more signature moves.

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>>29501054

>>29500969

>The sheer fact that Battle Bond increases the strength of Water Shuriken and only Water Shuriken should tell you that Gamefreak considers Water Shuriken to be its signature move.

No it doesn't. It is a thematic change since it grows a big ass shuriken on it back.

>The term signature move was used all the time in the marketing for Ash-Greninja

Give me some examples

>Usually does not mean 100% of the time. It means most of the time. Please learn english before posting on an english board.

What you wrote translates to: All the signature moves that are not distributed in a usual manner belong to legendaries, not :legendaries have moves that are included among all the moves that are usually distributed.
The correct way to say it is
>"Usually,the only signature moves that don't get distributed are the ones for legendaries Learn english.

Number of sign of non legends:43 number of sign moves of legends:39

Again wrong. Headcanon, not a fact.

>>29501054
If you wanna include sketch, then the only sign moves are sketch and chatter.

>>29501425
>No it doesn't. It is a thematic change since it grows a big ass shuriken on it back.

And WHY does it grow a BIG WATER SHURIKEN on its back? Because it's signature move is Water Shuriken and its a big part of its identity.
>Give me some examples
https://www.youtube.com/user/TVTOKYO/videos
Look at almost every preview leading up to XYZ38.
>Number of sign of non legends:43 number of sign moves of legends:39
Wrong.
Exclusive signature moves for
Non-legends: 26
Legends: 32

>>29501842
>tvtokyo
I was expecting something that GF has said thought an interview or magazine, what the anime team thinks is by no means canon. And you won't find anywhere GF themselves stating what a signature move actually is, hence why it's a term made by us, the fans.

Where did you find these numbers?

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Signature_move

Surely not from here. You are just pulling it all out of your ass like you've been doing this whole time.

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OP Makes Poll to prove a point.

Poll does nothing except discredit OP's point.

>>29502004
I used that exact same list except I bothered to read which ones were actually exclusive. Plenty of the ones you counted were breedable onto other pokemon.

TokyoTV has to confirm their decisions with Gamefreak for advertising considering its their franchise.

>>29497739
In Finland if a great horned owl is anywhere near your front door, someone living there is going to die.

>>29497815
It is in this case.

>>29495328
>>29495086
I'm pretty sure the grass starter is based off an owl that was indegonous to Hawaii, but became extinct. Probably that's why it's ghost

>>29499255
Fucking idiot please realize that Japanese archery is fucking spirit shit. Kyudo. Google that up.

It's a Ghost because of what the type affords, not because it's actually a literal ghost. It's an assassin that moves through the forest swiftly and silently... like a ghost. The typing affords it the ability to avoid normal and fighting type attacks, and it's so skilled in moving swiftly and silently that it can even spook real ghosts or mind-focusing psychics.

Let's not forget, too, that owls are considered harbingers of death in many cultures. Just like Alolan Marowak isn't actually a ghost, but has taken on the characteristics of one to survive, Decidueye isn't a ghost either.

This isn't something unprecedented, either. The Gastly line technically aren't ghosts either, but rather, noxious fumes forming together to become life that take on the characteristics of ghosts- such as Yamask and Phantump, which are actual spirits possessing things, rather than just appearing to be ghosts.

>>29495150
"Spirit" has a slightly different meaning in Japan than the US.

OP is a dumb cunt confirmed

>>29498768
>Or a Kommo-o's signature move being about the loud sound its clanging scales make. Signature moves tell you about the pokemon's identity.
The problem is, Kommo'os and it's lines Dex entries talk about how it's scales clang to wars evil. Why does Decidueye's information not say anything about its mastery over shadows? This is the entire problem. All the other examples you gave, they tie into the Pokemon's lore and themes. This is just a totally "normal"looking owl archer. It doesn't look shadowy, it doesn't look ghostly, and it isn't described as such. Many Pokemon are described as extremely stealthy and furtive, and dartrix is able to manipulate it's arrows as well which isn't even really a very ghost type feeling thing. It's just described as it just basically being such a good dart thrower/archer that it can directly control it's arrows. It doesn't say anything about spirits or supernatural powers behind them.

>>29503857
Archery in Japan is a spiritual practice.

>>29503881
No it isn't. At least not moreso than literally every martial art.

>>29503907
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ky%C5%ABd%C5%8D
>Kyudo is practised in many different schools, some of which descend from military shooting and others that descend from ceremonial or contemplative practice. Therefore, the emphasis is different. Some emphasise aesthetics and others efficiency. Contemplative schools teach the form as a meditation in action.
>According to the Nippon Kyudo Federation the supreme goal of kyudo is the state of shin-zen-bi, roughly "truth-goodness-beauty",[6] which can be approximated as: when archers shoot correctly (i.e. truthfully) with virtuous spirit and attitude toward all persons and all things which relate to kyudo (i.e. with goodness), beautiful shooting is realised naturally.

竜が我が敵を喰らう!

>>29504023
Ok?

>>29504023
Nothing about that suggests it's more spiritual than other martial arts.

>>29504023
What do you think ki/hamon/aura is?

>>29504023
This sounds exactly like the kind of bullshit you hear about kung fu and shit.

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>>29504134
Spirit powers. Manifestation's of the user's『 FIGHTING SPIRIT』

>>29504253
Kung fu is ghost type confirmed. Mienshao retconned when?

>>29504290
>Hamon literally punch ghosts
It was right in front of us the whole time.

>>29504291
Consider Medicham which is Fighting/Psychic due to it's ki/hamon/aura shit. But it doesn't fuck with spirits, unlike Decidueye, which chains its enemies' spirits in place with its spirit arrows.

>>29496993
>owl
>bird
????????
Anon, are you ok?

>>29504348
It gets a signature move made to match it, not a Pokemon to match the move. The move would have been whatever the Pokemon was about. Do that doesn't justify anything. The problem is it just has the move and presumably other ghost type moves to fill out its movepools forechanical reasons, but no described aptitude for controlling shadows or anything. Even the way it stealths is totally nonspecific. it doesn't say it like... melds into shadows or anything.

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>>29495150
holy shit this is the most autism i've seen all day

>>29504494
Also, someone said the move might not even be about aptitude with manipulating shadows, just aptitude with a now and arrow, like his aim is so true he can pin your shadow to the ground. Kagenui is more like a martial arts technique type thing than a type of magic. Without them saying what makes it ghost we can come up with whatever we want.

>>29495086
is this alolan dugtrio all over agan, people just shitting on a design because they don't understand it at first glance? I bet you guys will keep this up once whatever the actual explanation is comes up too, won't you?

>>29504906
A-Dugtrio's design is actually justifiable. Decidueye's design doesn't justify its typing at all. The explanations so far are all complete bullshit.

>>29495086
Your bemusement makes me laugh

>>29504948
How many times do you need to be told that owls hold special spirit significance for Hawaiians?

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>>29495150

>>29504948
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pueo

>The pueo (Asio flammeus sandwichensis) is a subspecies of the short-eared owl that is endemic to Hawaii. The pueo is one of more famous of the various physical forms assumed by ʻaumākua (ancestor spirits) in Hawaiian culture.

really? that's bullshit?

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>>29495150
Take a chill pill man.

Haunted Sandcastle mon isn't Ghost type either. It doesn't have them purples

>>29505059
It is unless they actually say that the point of the design is that its meant to be a ancestor spirit of some sort. There's no reason that it has to be an extrapolation. They didn't hide Inceroar being a heel or Primarina being a mermaid. Why are we supposed to assume this owl is supposed to be a specific kind of owl that people think of as ancestor spirits even though they never say it and they say everything else?

>>29502089
OP's poll only proves that people here are a bunch of idiots/apologists.

>>29505013
You can't construe a spiritual motif from its design nor its description. It's a generic animalistic owl with no occult themes whatsoever.

>>29495086
>Biased thread
>Biased poll options
Someone's butthurt

>>29505353
so you're problem is you want game freak to say it? that's kinda weird anon.

you just made me wonder though, what if the reason he has no skulls or overtly ghostly things and they don't mention death or spirits in his description is because of china. They don't allow that shit.

>>29505628
>what if the reason he has no skulls or overtly ghostly things and they don't mention death or spirits in his description is because of china

>A-Marowak

Can owlfags stop getting blown out for one second

>>29495424
>hence the ninja frog being dark
>shedinja is bug/ghost

>>29505650
shedinja isnt stealthy. it's a ghost because its an animated lifeless husk.

>>29505628
>so you're problem is you want game freak to say it? that's kinda weird anon.
I mean you can spin it like that if you want to. Id' say I want them to properly convey their themes. People could tell Incineroar would be a dark-type heel based on his concept art, even though its design wasn't really much more than a buff tiger man and could easily have been fighting-type. NOBODY guessed Decidueye would be ghost-type until the Forest Shadow intro pack name and even that was a fringe theory because, again, it didnt look or feel Ghost-type at all. Nothing about it reads that way. This design could very easily have been made to look ghost type, and in more ways than just being purple. It could have had tattered wings, are a shadowy, ghostly face and/or eyes. On top of not looking like it, the information behind it also doesn't oint to it specifically being inspired by the concept of owls being spiritual or ghostly. Its information just talks about normal owl things and it being an extremely good archer.

>>29496956
Dark type only for this conversation, so i can be right and you don't.

To be fair, there are kinds of owls also called the ghosts of the forest. No one saw it coming, but after it did, if you know a bit about owls, it made sense.

ITT OP makes up a bunch of imaginary rules. Homie, it's been a day now, you can't still be upset about this. This is what anons were talking about when they accused you of being autistic. You literally won't accept reality because it doesn't fit your expectations. Get help

Why are people so buttmad over it being ghost type?

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>>29495086
It's ghost now, stfu

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>>29505545
>no occult themes
what's he got over his head anon?

>>29506325
A hood as in Robin Hood. A d it's a common thing for archers to wear hoods. That doesn't make them occult
>>29506268
wtf i love decidueye now

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>>29495192
Nice post my friend

>Rowlet spins it's head like the exorcist
THEY WERE TELLING US FROM THE BEGINNING YOU FUCKTARDS

It's ghost because it is stealthy enough to avoid fighting and normal attacks, and because it can pin shadows, and as Shadow Sneak and Gengar shows, manipulation of shadows is a Ghost-type thing in Pokémon. Thus... What other type could that be? Dark doesn't make sense as it isn't a particularly dirty move, and most Dark-type moves involve fighting dirty-- even Dark Pulse is using negative thoughts to deal damage.

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I bet you GameFreak apologists will make up some dumb shit excuse for why this is a bug type and not a crab type, too!

>>29495150
>he thinks owls aren't paranormal
Go watch the fourth kind and get back to me

Im amazed people didnt sperg this hard at the oricorio ghost

>>29495086
lmaoing @ (You)